Talk:Serena Williams

Jehovah's Witness?

Is she really one of Jehovah's Witnesses? If not, it is not right to put the article in the category Jehovah's Witnesses people. Summer Song 21:32, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

From my reading both her, her sister, her mother (but _not_ her father) are Witnesses. http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/williamsdivorce.htm <-2000. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/80777/1318124/post.ashx#1318124 <-2006 they still seem to be attending 220.253.86.204 08:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC) (MSN jpshift@hotmail.com)

Serena life

She may be and she may not be. But that's her life and we should leave it alone.

Gay Icon?

She can't be both Gay and a Jehovah's Witness as the JW faith is opposed to homosexuality. So if she is indeed a gay icon then this is indeed ironic and this irony is worthy of being mentioned in the article - if someone is willing to work it in somehow. I doubt people who see her as a gay icon are aware of her anti-gay predudice. 220.253.86.204 08:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Gau?

In the Fashion section is this sentence: "Again at gau had a special line at Puma and has a current one at Nike." I cannot figure out what is meant by "gau". This needs to be edited if others cannot understand this.

Uh, what?

Why does it say 'titty!' at the end of the Entertainment section?

Weight?

She can't possibly weigh 135lbs but the 6000lbs entry is so not funny! Please change.

I know Serena's had some weight/fitness issues over the past couple of years, so what is her weight exactly? Some wikipedians insist that its 165 lb, while the WTA tour website claims 135 lb...so until someone can verify her weight, I'm changing it to the verifiable weight (135).

RE: Weight, She cannot possibly weigh 135 lb or 165 lb for that matter. WTA has been quite off about the weight of the players in the past for some reason. I think we should put a ? or N/A to encourage more people to find out exactly how much she weighs.

When I Click on Serena's profile in the US Open website, it says that she is 143 lbs. (65 kilos). I think that we should use this info as it is the most recent. Ô 01:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I guess you are right, we have what we have. We can not eye ball her and come up with a weight we think is right, no matter how much we think she weighs around 200 lb.

Good grief, if Wikipedia is to be taken seriously, don't try to tell me that Serena weighs 135 lbs. She hasn't weighed 135 pounds since she was 11. Is this site fact or fiction? Julia Roberts is the same height, 5'9", and admits to 135 pounds. A woman of that height who weighs 135 is slender. Look at Julia, then look at Serena. Get serious.

To the person who keeps changing the weight, lol , please discuss with us as to where you're getting this information. Let's be mature here...The most recent information about her weight says that she is 143 lbs. Let's leave it at that until we get a newer update, thanks. Ô 00:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, 143 lbs. Right. Have you actually seen this woman? Her own website says 130. Do you believe that too? I guess that makes it official. If she claimed to be Albino, would that be on Wikipedia as well? Tell ya what. Find a lady in your office, or your family who will admit to 135, or 143 pounds. Look her over. And then look at Serena. My gosh, Serena weighs 135...from the waist down. Better yet, do a Google search, and read what various sportswriters have observed about Serena's weight...which they jokingly refer to as "listed at 135 pounds....but obviously much heavier." This is almost as good as Whoopi Goldberg claiming to be born in 1956, when various people have produced records and evidence indicating she's off by 7 years. But apparently if a famous person wants to lie, some Wikipedians buy it, hook line and sinker.

Look IP address, this is an encyclopedia based upon actual sources, not just random assumptions. So, if you care so much that the WTA and Serena Williams are lying about their weight--go complain to them, and stop adding questionable information to Wikipedia. So, no source, no change--the heaviest she weighs has been indicated by one source to be 143 lbs., and that's what is going to be used! ---Flute138 16:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

143 pounds, of course. Her weight will always change. However I bet you didn't know that this recent information came from the WTA which is a Womens Tennis Association and organizes all the players profile, which includes the most recent weight height, prize money, etc. So in response to your question, yes she is 143 pounds, and no, it's not false info. Ô 20:44, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, since when the WTA weight info became a reliable source and to whom? Do you believe your own eyes? WTA lowers the weight data for all female athletes because the weight data is not important in tennis. Nobody would do this in boxing where weight must be official. You can either make a reasonable estimate (which is btw possible to do with high precision based on her height and build) or leave the field unknown in case there’s no reliable source of this info. But WTA is not a reliable source of weight data!--Egorpan 21:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

To the person who is changing the weight, your reference leads to an article made in 2000 ^ http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0016,john,14209,3.html so that is obviously not recent and your second refernce "^ Ibid" doesn't link to anything so how are we suppose to know that you're giving correct information. Whereas the information from the WTA is more recent http://www.usopen.org/en_US/bios/profile/ws/wtaw234.html This info was from the 2006 US Open and states the most recent info on her weight, height, etc. So inother words, if you're going to change the weight, height, give valid and recent proof Ô 20:54, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I'll settle on 143 until I find a reliable source that actually has her correct weight. Stanley011 21:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh. So you're reliably saying she has LOST 22 pounds since 2000. Gee, I wonder why all the sportswriters who SEE her every week say otherwise?

I'm not saying she reliably weighs 143. I'm saying that's what the most reliable, up to date source, the us open 2006 site, has her as weighing. I personally believe that she weighs more than this but until I can find an up to date source that shows this, wikipedia policy prohibits adding it to the article. Stanley011 19:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Hear, hear. Moreover, Wikipedia mandates verifiability, not the truth. See WP:V ... SkerHawx 23:16, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

I've got to hand it to Laila Ali, daughter of Muhammad, and a boxer in her own right. She is the same height as Serena, and admits to 170 pounds....and yet she is thinner and less muscular than the "143 lbs." Serena. It's refreshing to know that some female athletes are honest about their weight.

In the new People magazine, Tyra Banks, who is also the same height as Serena, says her weight is 161 pounds. Look at Tyra. Then look at Serena. See if you think Tyra weighs 18 pounds MORE than Serena. Thanks for being honest, Tyra.

That's nice... Why are you guys making this such a big deal? If you strongly believe that Serena is NOT 143lbs, than go on the internet, and find a recent and reliable source. That's all you got to do. Ô 23:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

1998

This section does not make sense: "1998 was the first year that Williams finished in the WTA top 20. She began the season in Sydney as a qualifier, ranked no. 96, and beat world no. 3 Lindsay Davenport in a quarterfinal. With her top 20 ranking, Williams was then expected to do well in her first Grand Slam tournament."

If she was ranked 96 at the beginning of the year and 20 at the end, then we cannot say "with her top 20 ranking, Williams was expected to do well in her first Grand Slam tournament." If the preceeding sentence is correct, she did not have a top 20 ranking yet. She had a 96 ranking. 72.85.189.224 04:40, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Controversy

Since nothing came of this and it is nothing more than an unsubstantiated allegation shouldn't it be removed?

--Posting the stuff about the Sharapova overhead that hit Serena is definitely going too far. That happens all the time in tennis. If we referenced everytime that happened on every tennis player's page it would fill them up. Agrippina Minor

Quite right, but was it necessary to remove the entire 'Controversy' section? It was completely unbiased in writing, I just don't see why it was removed?