Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance

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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Random user 39849958 (talk | contribs) at 07:36, 7 February 2006 (→‎6 February 2006). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Wikiquette alerts are an option for a quick, streamlined way to get an outside view.

Procedure

At the bottom of the list, just post:

  • A single link to the problem or issue as you see it (for example, a single posting or section of a talk page).
  • Label the comment neutrally but do not sign and do not use names (type ~~~~~, which gives only a timestamp).
  • Please avoid embarking on a discussion of the points raised on this page. Carry on discussing it wherever you originally were — editors responding to posts here will come to you!

If you would like to get an outside view on your own behaviour, please post it here too.

Outsiders who visit the link are encouraged to make a constructive comment about any Wikiquette breaches they see. Postings should be removed after seven days.

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Active alerts

January 30, 2006

  • User:Blue sea has been on the rampage for the last week, renaming articles without any prior discussion, and renaming them again when the results of a Wikipedia:Requested moves application went against him. User:Blue sea also operates using registered and anonymous sockpuppets (see ]]User talk:Blue sea]].
Today, he has changed the following articles from
Surely something must be done about this.--Damac 15:30, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Possible violations of WP:Civility and WP:AGF in regard to the page Dental amalgam controversy, see the article's talk page for the article-related discussion. Examples appear here: [1], [2], [3]. One user has accused another of deleting the user's additions to articles then selectively deleting the article history to cover his tracks. The accused user is not a sysop. - Jersyko talk 23:07, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • User:Rjensen is a very productive historian and editor— this is good. However, Rjensen often uses POV and links to questia in violation of WP:WIN. When corrected, he calls us vandals and reverts all of our corrections, regardless of whether the correction was regarding POV, questia, or a typo. It is possible that I am not reading WP policy correctly, but I am not alone in my concern. Here is one example. Thank you.13:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

31 January 2006 (Tuesday)


1 February 2006

  • User:Tururuturu Is creating new articles for various world musicians based NPOV press releases, word for word. He is either a representantive of a record company doing promotional work, or posting copyright material. In any case his articles should be reviewed and probably deleted.

Meekrob 01:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2 February 2006

3 February 2006

Administrator user:FeloniousMonk is issuing warnings while having conflict-of-interest, is repeatedly making accusations and failing to listen to the subject of the accusation (as well as another admin who can not be accused of bias, as he is on the opposite 'side' of two debates), and is acting in a manner inappropriate to an admin. Attempts at soliciting apology and correction of the error(s) has been met with admonishments that amount to 'go away' and to let "reasonable editors" take over [4] [5]. Several editors are working, with compromise, to come to a consensus on two issues (one nearly resolved [6]) in this particular article but this admin (and a couple others) are merely reverting to a version that goes against both 'sides' of the compromising, insisting that there is consensus where none exists. This complaint is not specific to content, although that is part of the problem, but to the behaviour and conduct of this Admin in particular. Following on the heels of him erroneously reporting me for 3RR the other day, this leads to a pattern of some sort of personal vendetta for reasons known only to himself. I have repeatedly asked him (and the other three who are reverting without showing cause) why 'neutral' errors should be re-introduced but there has been no (substansive) reply to that query. 06:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Sock puppets User:Sea level/User:Rktect/User:Federal Street. POV vandalizing NSA warrantless surveillance controversy - see article's history and bottom of Talk:NSA warrantless surveillance controversy. Activated Legality of warrantless surveillance which is its own thing other than warning templates - trying to link to it. Let him have it? Metarhyme 07:12, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks in Talk:Neuro-linguistic programming. I came in as an outside source, uninvolved with the articles editing. I was immediately and mercilessly personally attacked. To wit, after my very first post pointing out WP:NPA: "Swatjester. You have not explained exactly why pointing out persistently bad behaviour is an extreme violation of WP:NPA. Instead of just waving your little forms around for people to look at, why don't you take your head out of your arse and give us a good argument for why Comaze has never been in violation of any wikipedia policies or conventions. HeadleyDown 13:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)". I could give you further examples, but it's easy just to scroll down the page. Swatjester 14:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just came here to report personal attacks by User:HeadleyDown and I find he is already reported. Having asked him to avoid personal remarks and assume good faith I received this response:
  • "Who did I insult personally? And good faith was what I assumed for months. Bad behaviour of NLP fanatics was the result, including their directing personal insults such as wanker, cunt, etc to myself. So take a running jump, your sanctimonious bullshit is as misguided as your belief in NLP." Talk:Principles_of_NLP
I have responded to his query but I have refrained from issuing a personal warning on his talk page. I am beginning to wonder what percentage of this users edits violate NPA. Peace. Metta Bubble 05:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

4 February 2006

  • User:Reneec has personally attacked/been uncivil to two users ([7] & [8]) over the inclusion of a picture of David Saks in the introduction to the Memphis article. See relevant comments on the Memphis talk page. I would like to get some comments on the overall notability of David Saks as well. - Jersyko talk 17:29, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

5 February 2006

  • At Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/65.182.172.x, there is an attempt to resolve an ongoing dispute with an anonymous user. An integral component of the disagreement is that the anonymous user is posting people's personal information at wikipedia to intimidate them and is engaging in repeated Ad Hominem Attacks. He refuses to sign his edits, create an account or use summary boxes even though he has hundreds of edits. He breaks apart other user's comments and blocks of discussion text I or others write on talk pages. As a result, it fragments the conversation and confuses readers because he will not sign his edits. After requesting that he not engage in this behaviour, he is currently doing it at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/65.182.172.x. Any help or comments would be most appreciated. Unfortunately, you will probably have to look in the history to figure out what is occuring. Cyberdenizen 03:38, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

6 February 2006

Fyslee is now stalking me. His insults continue. [9] He makes me feel extremely unwelcomed to such a degree that I am hesitant to post any more details about myself on my user page out of fear of giving him more fodder for stalking me. Levine2112 18:50, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I read this exchange Fyslee and Levine2112 are having a serious disagreement that has lasted only four days, and involves all of five total posts of Fyslee's. Neither side is treating each other's feelings with kid gloves, but we are adults here.
This exchange does not amount to "stalking." Fyslee's asked for Levine2112's credentials to argue from personal authority.
I think Levine2112 has jumped the gun here with a Wikiquette alert, which might apply to him as a result perhaps? MARussellPESE 21:01, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response. I would agree with you if this was only limited to Pseudoscience section, but Fyslee has been following me around Wikipedia, launching into insults about me on his talk page, the Chiropractic article's talk page, and the Oxymoron article's talk page, to name but a few. What should I do? Levine2112 23:48, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected. This conflict has gone on for some time on Talk:Chiropractic, User_talk:Fyslee, User_talk:Levine2112 and strangely on Talk:Oxymoron. Frankly, I still can't find the "stalking". Perhaps Levine2112 can cite specific examples instead of entire talk pages.
Levine2112's edits of Fyslee's in the "Oxymoron" subsection "Examples of Perceived Oxymoron" was, in my opinion, correctly reverted as vandalism. Levine2112 was an active participant in the ensuing edit war and heated, disruptive, talk page discussion.
Both editors have very strong opinions on the subject — Fyslee's a skeptic and Levine2112's a true-believer. Fyslee's background appears very strong on the material and argues hard. Levine2112's background on the material is impossible to tell, and argues much less effectively. Fyslee's background probably gives him a distinct advantage as he's probably heard much of these arguments before, has ready answers, but could be a bit more patient perhaps.
Levine2112 seems to have had more people question their edits and POV than Fyslee has.
Both sides could consider collaborating on a re-write of the article, which could use it. The article's seems to have a rather "Pro" POV in all the sections. Perhaps each side preparing a "Pro" and "Con" section, which should follow each other rather than be separated as they are, and having a Neutral sift the sources and edit out any un-sourced information presented in both. (I do not volunteer for this service. I have a problem with a profession where not insignificant segments of it still deny the germ theory of disease, so I'm no Neutral on that subject.)
I do not see evidence of "stalking" and seriously question the reasons behind this Wikiquette alert. MARussellPESE 04:21, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MARussellPESE, did you really just insult me on the Wikiquette page by calling me a "true-believer"? That is a derogatory word used by sceptics to characterize who they beleive are weak-minded people that have been duped by pseudoscience. Clearly, you are not an unbiased party here and I suggest you leave this matter to a legitimate System Operator. This is a place to post violations of Wikiquette; not carry on argumentative name-calling.

Now if you would like me to cite specifics, here you go. On this page, Fyslee and friends call me a "prinitive type", a "fool", "stupid", and "thin-skinned". Here he characterizes my contributions as "amateurish", "cheap", "feeble", "weasel", disingenuous, whiny, "oversensitive", "thin-skinned" and cowardly.

MARussellPESE, you point out that I have more complaints about my additions on my talk page that Fyslee has on his. That's because Fyslee resorts to ganging up on me. He frequently posts messages like this on the pages of his cabal to warn them about a new user with beliefs that differ from theirs.

Further, Fyslee leaves messages like this on user's pages that post things that he doesn't agree with:

If you want to press the point about entrance requirements, I can easily and without violating NPOV provide more chiropractic sources that are quite unfavorable. Is that really what you want? Sometimes it's best to be quiet and hope that some things don't get brought into the open. This is one of those times, seen from your viewpoint.

Is that a threat? Sure seems like one. He continues to threaten me with gathering evidence against me and getting me booted from Wikipedia. [http://www.skepticwiki.org/wiki/index.php/User:Fyslee/Sandbox/Live Here} is an example even from SkiptiWiki.

Finally, the actual subject of this entry is found here, where Fyslee calls me a "disgrace", a "joke" and finally makes it clear that he is trying to find out who I am and where I live.

Now given all of these insults, given his desperate attempts to learn my identity, given his fanaticism, and given his penchant for [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science#Shooting_a_gun_into_water guns and hunting), I ask you: Should I feel uneasy? Levine2112 07:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC) ---[reply]

23:21, 6 February 2006 (UTC) An anonymous user from the Level 3 IP address range allocation (4.243.x.x) is consistantly making apparently POV edits to the Bubbles section of the Champagne article, and has edited other people's contributions on the associated talk page. 23:21, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

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