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The '''Market Street Row''' is located on the west side of that street in [[Poughkeepsie (city), New York|Poughkeepsie]], [[New York]], [[United States]], just south of Hulme Park and across from the [[Adriance Memorial Library]], on the southern edge of downtown. It includes three houses, including the Mott-Van Kleeck House, the oldest [[framing (construction)|frame]] house in the city.<ref name="NRHP nom" />
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Market Street is Poughkeepsie's oldest, in existence in 1709 when a royal decree made it part of the King's Highway, later to become the [[Albany Post Road]] after [[American independence|independence]]. The Mott-Van Kleeck House was built around 1780 by a descendant of the Van Kleeck family, one of Poughkeepsie's oldest.<ref name="POKhistory">{{cite book |title=History of the City of Poughkeepsie|url=http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/dutchess/dutch/Hist/pough1.htm |last=Smith |first=James H. |year=1882 |publisher=unknown |chapter=XXX|quote=The first settlers were Dutch, and among the first, if not the first, was Baltus VAN KLEECK}}</ref> [[Architectural style|Stylistically]] it is a precursor to the [[Federal style]], in which later [[ornament (architecture)|decorative]] motifs were added. For many years it indicated the beginning of Poughkeepsie to travelers.
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In the late 19th century, around 1880, the two neighboring houses were built. They were ornate two-and-a-half story brick structures with peaked [[slate]] roofs, iron cresting, and [[Queen Anne Style architecture#Shingle Style|Shingle style]] porches. A tower was added to the Mott-Van Kleeck House, in sympathetic colors and materials.<ref name="NRHP nom" />
== Dating of "internet phenomenon" ==


In the automotive era, Market Street was incorporated into [[U.S. Route 9 in New York|US 9]], the main route for drivers from New York City to Albany until the construction of the [[New York State Thruway]] and the subsequent rerouting of Route 9 onto a new expressway through the city. The houses became decrepit and were threatened during [[urban renewal]] efforts in the 1970s.<ref name="NRHP nom" /> They were [[historic preservation|preserved]] instead, and added to the [[National Register of Historic Places]] in 1982. Today they have been [[adaptive reuse|redeveloped]] into commercial offices,<ref name="NRHP nom" /> like the [[Hasbrouck House (Poughkeepsie, New York)|Hasbrouck House]] and [[Amrita Club]] nearby.
From the article: "In 2006, he became the subject of an internet phenomenon known as Chuck Norris Facts."
Chuck norris likes men. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.171.194.61|124.171.194.61]] ([[User talk:124.171.194.61|talk]]) 05:15, 22 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==References==
This needs to be qualified better. As far as I know, the internet phenomenon is definitely older than 2006, although how old I'm not certain of.
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== Upcoming "Legend of Chuck Norris" film or animated series? ==
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I've heard rumors of an upcoming film and/or animated television series derived from the famous "Chuck Norris Facts." There's currently a splash page on [http://legendofchucknorris.com legendofchucknorris.com] hinting at that fact, plus [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM3wT2aXqYQ a teaser on YouTube]. This may be worth adding to the article under "Popular Culture." [[User:Toddross|Todd Ross]] 20:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
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== Images ==

The picture was too weak, as a childhood Chuck Norris fan I had to change it - this "Invasion USA" was a great mindless comedy from 80s. :)
--[[User:Tigry|Tigry]] 05:41, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

:I guess, there's enough space to include two images, so I re-added the original photo and moved the movie poster to the filmography section. --[[User:Fschoenm|fschoenm]] 22:09, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

What Happened too all the images theres only that one picture of him that looks nothing like Chuck Did for most life in the public eye. at least one picture of him with a beard is nessacary. [[User:Technobabble1|Technobabble1]] 02:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Chuck Norris has won 6 world fighting middle-weight karate championships. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.222.184.88|68.222.184.88]] ([[User talk:68.222.184.88|talk]]) 18:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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:Feel free to add a ''freely-licensed'' image of Norris with a beard. &mdash;[[User:Chowbok|Chowbok]] 15:32, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

==Citing Resources==
Does anyone know of legitimate resources (books, autobiographies, etc) for these facts? The page should have refrences.<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:198.174.6.200|198.174.6.200]] ([[User talk:198.174.6.200|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/198.174.6.200|contribs]]) 04:21, December 9, 2005.</small>
ALSO ADD 1979 MOVIE "THE GAME OF DEATH"<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:205.143.204.206|205.143.204.206]] ([[User talk:205.143.204.206|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/205.143.204.206|contribs]]) 23:08, May 8, 2006.</small>

he was also in dodge ball for a short section.<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:71.197.30.209|71.197.30.209]] ([[User talk:71.197.30.209|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/71.197.30.209|contribs]]) 18:01, August 9, 2006.</small>
== Landmark ==

The landmark section is only vaguely related to Mr. Norris. He's not leading the poll and he's only and option because pranksters from the US are adding him to the list of possibilities. Is there any proof there's any 'controversy' about this poll as the section suggests?
[[User:Smaerd|Smaerd]] 18:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


Well, it was directly mentioned on the Colbert Report, where viewers were told to go to the site, click specific links to open up the vote page, and specifically vote for Stephen Colbert. I'm assuming the votes for Chuck are due to the internet meme or a scripting element making the votes on his behalf. Either way, he's far, far behind and it's quite irrelevant. It should only be on a Colbert Report site. Consequently, I think it should be removed from here.

I agree, the section should be removed, as the Colbert already won the poll. One paragraph telling that Norris was in the lead in such a poll (plus a link to the Northern M0 Danube bridge page) should be enough. [[User:Renku|Nene]] 10:09, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

: Have removed the section and added a reference in the "Popular Culture" section. [[User:Venkytv|Venky]] 07:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

== Typo's ==

I'm nitpicking as well, in mentioning his second wife, marriage is spelled "marrigage"... needs to be fixed. [[User:ILoveConcerts|ILoveConcerts]] ([[User talk:ILoveConcerts|talk]]) 00:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it's nitpicking, but it would be nice if someone would correct his brother's name in the first line under "Beginnings" and add a dot in the last sentence before "Walker, Texas Ranger".<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:RypER|RypER]] ([[User talk:RypER|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RypER|contribs]]) 19:26, August 5, 2006.</small>

There's a misspelling for "receiving" under Chuck Norris' picture.
"Chuck Norris reciving the Veteran of the Year award by the U.S. Air Force"

The article refers to Chuck Norris as "Chuck" in some places, instead of the more encyclopedic "Norris." I would change it, but the page appears to be locked. Can the powers that be intervene?
[[User:75.68.211.103|75.68.211.103]] 01:47, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

:Skimmed the article and changed the ones I noticed. If you see any I missed feel free to point them out. -[[User:R. fiend|R. fiend]] 01:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

just wanted to let you know chuck norris is half [[scots-irish]] most scots-irish people in the southern united states usually just call themselves [[irish]] which is the same blood pure celtic ( scottish,irish,welsh,cornish) but culturally very different since reformation very different

== Ruud Draak? ==

According to IMDB, Chuck Norris' father was named Ray. Why would a half-Irish, half-Cherokee American have an obviously Dutch name? Any info on this?

:I have no Welsh in me, but Cameron is a Welsh name.[[User:Cameron Nedland|Cameron Nedland]] 17:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

::Just because his name is Ray doesn't nessecarily mean anything. People don't always name their children after their nationality.[[User:Ron3090|Ron3090]] 16:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

:: What is obviously Dutch? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond. Don't forget that the Dutch settled in Britain and Ireland (as well as USA)a few centuries ago so the name is certainly integrated by now. It is also a saint's name, so a Catholic might choose to use it. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/83.13.39.98|83.13.39.98]] ([[User talk:83.13.39.98|talk]]) 12:29, 22 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

well for starters many cherokee in Oklahoma called themselves [[black dutch]] for a very long time to hide their ancestry so they probablly took a dutch name as well <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.74.221.138|68.74.221.138]] ([[User talk:68.74.221.138|talk]]) 22:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Iconic status ==

I noticed that recently PhantomTiger removed the Chuck Norris jokes stating they were jokes...although it is true, I think that they have a very important place in recent pop culture, and should be put in, as they were, a seperate section.<small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:TheMeerkat311|TheMeerkat311]] ([[User talk:TheMeerkat311|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TheMeerkat311|contribs]]) 05:20, September 5, 2006.</small>

They are jokes, and as such have little place in this article. If I'm not mistaken, it already has reference to Norris as a pop-culture icon, we don't need examples of the jokes themselves. [[User:OutlandishTeacup|OutlandishTeacup]] 11:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Then that makes you extremely boring Mr Boringteacup.

I think there should be a stronger reference to the role that 'Dodgeball' played in feeding the Chuck Norris internet phenomena, particularly the film's final post-credit scene, where a fat-suited Ben Stiller mutters the words "F#%@ing Chuck Norris....".

==Archive==
I've archived all talk that has no comments in August or September. Let's try and stay on top of unsigned comments. Remind people to sign and make sure to use the unsigned template, with a date stamp. This makes archiving much easier I found dozens upon dozens of comments in there that were not signed. It took extensive digging to find out who posted what and when to see if it could be archived.--[[User:Crossmr|Crossmr]] 20:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

== recEIving ==

Please correct typo by the picture: recEIving not recIving.

== High School ==

Please link the portion where it says he graduated high school to include that he graduated from North High School (Torrance) and link to that article.

== "receiving" is misspelled in the top right pic ==

Chuck Norris '''reciving''' the Veteran of the Year award by the U.S. Air Force
:I've fixed it, but you could have fixed it yourself. Simply click "Edit this page" at the top. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Llama man|The Gr]][[User:Llama man/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">e</span>]][[User:Llama man|at Llama]]<sup>[[User talk:Llama man|<span style="color:red;">moo?</span>]]</sup> 16:57, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

== On The Shaky Quality of This Article's Research ==
CHUCK NORRIAS IS JUST STRAIGHT BAD!!!
Since when does Tae Kwon Do have a "4,500 year-long documented history of Tae Kwon Do"? You definitely need a citation - and "no" - comic books do not count... [[User:Stevenmitchell|Stevenmitchell]] 21:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

:It's fine. No martial art has a history that old, not even tae kwon do's father arts of taekyon and hwarangdo - not even Shaolin! --[[User:Bentonia School|Bentonia School]] 05:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris Facts ==
I would like to know more about this ''Chuck Norris Facts'' thing. Perhaps in this article, perhaps in a separate one. Could someone please give more examples (currently there's only one in the article)? and how they are usually applied? thanks from a non-native speaker [[User:62.178.193.144|62.178.193.144]] 22:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris as Reserve Police Officer ==
I once saw a TV story which noted that Chuck Norris was a reserve police officer for an agency in Texas, and was wondering if anyone knew about this? [[User:Pyrogen|Pyrogen]] 20:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

== "4,500 year-long documented history of Tae Kwon Do" ==

The word "Taekwondo" has only existed since 1955, so this would have to refer to the history of Korean martial arts in general. Whether "4500" is accurate is a different matter. [[User:Shawnc|Shawnc]] 01:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

:Yes, I suppose it would have to refer to martial arts in general, not just Korean - even though the eariest form of gungfu was still about 2500 years away from being invented... --[[User:Bentonia School|Bentonia School]] 05:25, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

:: This is another Chuck Norris joke. [[Special:Contributions/68.10.133.142|68.10.133.142]] ([[User talk:68.10.133.142|talk]]) 03:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

== "BJJ blackbelt" ==

This needs to be verified. We do know he trained with Rickson Gracie and Helio Gracie in the 80's[http://theultima.com/Jiujitsu.html] and it's been suggested that he received a black belt from Jean-Jaques Machado but there is no mention of this on Machado's website.[http://www.karateforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=27543&start=10] [[User:Shawnc|Shawnc]] 04:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:This is indeed the case, and both the Machado brothers feature in Walker Texas Ranger in a scene where Walker is training BJJ with them both. There's an article in one of my "Grappling" magazines, I will dig out issue number so it can be used as a citation. [[User:Moh man742|Moh man742]] 06:04, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
::Where's the article? --[[User:Bentonia School|Bentonia School]] 05:08, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

He actually received his Brown Belt, as listed in the "BJJ Instructors and Student" web site [http://web.archive.org/web/20060428001330/http://bjj.org/a/alpha.html#N]I have made the change, unless someone can cite where Machado or Norris explicitly states one way or the other. MPA 18:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MPA|MPA]] ([[User talk:MPA|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MPA|contribs]]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Profile picture ==

Why is there a picture of Gary Coleman in the Chuck Norris article? Somebody please change it.[[User:83.233.58.62|83.233.58.62]] 02:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

:I don't see that, I checked the images, found some vandalism in the image description in Wiki Commons and fixed that, but no Gary Coleman problem. Which image was bad? --[[User:ArmadilloFromHell|<font color="#0000FF">'''Armadillo'''</font><font color="#000000">'''From'''</font><font color="#DD2222">'''Hell'''</font><font color="#AAAAAA">'''GateBridge'''</font>]]

== internet meme's ==

While Chuck Norris facts may actually be an internet meme (as they have seen growth, transmission, evolution -- from Vin Diesel), The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny is not an internet meme. It is a fad or a viral video, or something, but I have seen no evidence of influence the popular video has had on further videos. There is no lasting impact on the culture of the internet from this video. Furthermore, the terms 'meme' and 'internet meme' are not use on the page for The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny. I request that the description of The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny as an 'internet meme' be removed. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/71.252.40.52|71.252.40.52]] ([[User talk:71.252.40.52|talk]]) 18:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

== Christian ==

To which Christian denomination does Chuck Norris belong (if any in particular)? That could be an important point for a biographical article like this - especially when categorising under "[[:Category:Christian people|Christian people]]". --[[User:Grimhelm|Grimhelm]] 21:12, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

== Fumio Demura Reference ==

Is there a reason that Fumio Demura is described as "infamous"? Nothing on his page suggests that he might have a negative reputation. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/131.37.206.6|131.37.206.6]] ([[User talk:131.37.206.6|talk]]) 06:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

Age needs to be updated.

== Please add the link to Ido article ==
io:Chuck Norris - thank you,[[:io:User:Joao Xavier]] 23:47, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Alcoholism? ==

I noticed that the "Biography" section says he was born to an alcoholic father, and that this line differs quite a bit from previous versions. I could be completely wrong, but this seems to be very subtle vandalism to me. Can anyone come up with a source for this? [[User:DudleyScardsdale|DudleyScardsdale]] 18:51, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
:Checked reference; it's accurate. See also [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22chuck+norris%22+alcoholic+father+-wikipedia google: "chuck norris" alcoholic father -wikipedia]&nbsp;— <font face="Courier New">[[User:Demong|Demong]] <sub>[[User_talk:Demong|talk]]</sub></font> 02:36, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Law School Education? ==
There was a revert war going on over at [[Brooklyn Law School]] a while ago about whether or not Norris attended at some point. It was claimed that there's a reference to it in his autobiography "Against All Odds". Does anyone know if this is true?--[[User:Cdogsimmons|Cdogsimmons]] 21:50, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

== Way of the Dragon ==

The article says that Way of the Dragon is "also known as Return of the Dragon". Although this is technically true, it is only true in a limited sense, and primarily due to flaws in renaming Lee's films in the US (for western distribution). I propose changing this line to something along the lines of "re-titled Return of the Dragon by US distributors for western release". Thoughts? --[[User:Bentonia School|Bentonia School]] 04:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
:It's been a couple weeks and no beefs on rewording this section for actuality, so I've changed it. --[[User:Bentonia School|Bentonia School]] 17:50, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

== Say what? ==

Much of the following doesn't make any grammatical sense.

''He then attended Pembroke College, Oxford for a brief period before joining the United States Air Force as an Air Policeman in 1958 and was sent to Osan Air Base, South Korea. It was in South Korea that Norris acquired the nickname Chuck and began his training in Tang Soo Do (tangsudo), an interest that would lead to black belts in that art, as well as Taekwondo, and Shito ryu Karate, and the founding of the Chun Kuk Do ("Universal Way") form and the education associations United Fighting Arts Federation and "KickStart", formerly "Kick Drugs Out of America", a middle school – and high school – based program intended to give at-risk children a focus point in life through the martial arts.''

It seems that the eras of each achievement are intermingled when they shouldn't be. I believe many of them - from his first training in Korea to the Kickstart program - are decades apart. Needs fixin'. --[[User:Bentonia School|Bentonia School]] 17:46, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

== Tribute using Video game (trivia) ==
A youtube tribute to Chuck norris "Chuck norris in Oblivion" should be added to the trivia section. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP9CHQZ3mHw , made by a fan using 'Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion' these videos have attracted over a million viewers.

== Team What? ==

Someone should remove the "Team Choigan" section, unless someone can find some evidence that Chuck Norris and "Team Choigan" really did "save the universe twice." [[User:71.212.169.154|71.212.169.154]] 05:15, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

== 'Jokes' section deleted ==

The Chuck Norris "Facts" phenomenon is covered above already. Intelligently. Please read the article before making silly section additions. Oh, and "Norris" was misspelled. Four times.[[User:CowboyBear|CowboyBear]] 13:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

== However... ==

"However, in the same interview Mike said that he still wouldn't want to mess with his dad."

it says that his kid thinks of his dad as a loving father and say however he still wouldnt want to mess with his dad. this is weird. if a son loves his dad then he would want to harm his dad. i dont know what this article is trying to say... [[User:Mambi55|Mambi55]] 06:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

== Gabby Di Ciolli ==

IMDB indicates that she only appeared in a film co-written by Mike Norris, and in which Chuck Norris also starred. The movie was called [[Bells of Innocence]], and is itself of borderline notability. Clearly, she is not yet notable as an actress. The only context in which I feel she *might* be worth mentioning is to say that Norris has worked with family members in film. Other than that, she might be be left out of this article - she is only one of six grandchildren, and nothing is being said about the other five who, presumably are also apparently not notable. [[User:82.71.48.158|82.71.48.158]] 03:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

== Commercial ==
"Chuck Norris" is selling some sort of home gym on late night commercials. It looks like him but I've seen "Tom Cruise" selling stuff too. Is he in such a commercial?[[User:AThousandYoung|AThousandYoung]] 07:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, he and his wife, hock the "Total Gym" via infomercials. This should probably be mentioned in the article though a source would need to be found that offers more details on his involvement with the Total Gym. --[[User:Cab88|Cab88]] 10:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

::: You mean his wife Christie Brinkley? And why would they hock (pawn) the product they are selling? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.49.77.67|216.49.77.67]] ([[User talk:216.49.77.67|talk]]) 21:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

He was also on a mountain dew commercial; and why cant this page be edited? [[User:Steinfeld8|Steinfeld8]] ([[User talk:Steinfeld8|talk]]) 04:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

His first wifes name was Diane Holechek NOT Kim Durnthaler [[User:60.240.40.232|60.240.40.232]] 16:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

=='''NOT the FirstWestern 8th Dan'''==
Chuck Norris was NOT the first western 8th Dan in TKD. There were at least two other North Americans before him. Charles 'Chuck' Sereff was awarded his 8th Dan in 1990 and his 9th Dan in 1997 by General Choi Hong Hi of the ITF (founder of ITF, founder of Chang Hon TKD and inventor of the name TaeKwon-Do). http://ohdokwan.ca/charlessereff.html

Edward Sell was awarded his 8th Dan by the WTF in 1987 and his 9th Dan in 1997. http://christiantaekwondouniversity.net/founders.htm

It might be more accurate to say Mr Norris was the first to receive an 8th Dan in whichever particular association awarded him, however, when the two largest world governing bodies of TKD award 8th Dans to Americans at least seven years before Chuck Norris received his 8th Dan (and from which organisation?)it is hard to accept the idea that Chuck Norris was the first westerner to get and 8th Dan TKD. ([[User:Trevek|Trevek]] 08:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC))

== Chuck Norris' Death ==

Why does the article list his death as the 16th of November, 2007. I have not seen anything to back this up.

[[User:Dljackson|Dljackson]] ([[User talk:Dljackson|talk]]) 03:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

:It's been reverted and vandal's been blocked. Thanks for the note. -[[User:R. fiend|R. fiend]] ([[User talk:R. fiend|talk]]) 04:18, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

== Problem in Intro ==

"''who is most well known for playing Cordell "Cord" Walker on Walker, Texas Ranger'' and for his iconically tough image." That seems pretty opinion based to me. He was pretty much a household name for his action film acting long before the show, and while it certainly didn't hurt his fame, that particular line appears to be more point of view then fact and needs to go on that grounds (and if it is being presented as a fact, it needs to either be supported with a source, or removed on those grounds).

:I agree. Walker was a reasonably successful show because he was on it, not vice versa.--[[User:Kgroover|Kgroover]] ([[User talk:Kgroover|talk]]) 21:31, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

== Cordell was never called Cord ==

As an avid Ranger viewer I have never and ''WILL NEVER'' hear him called Cord. He is Cordell to everyone including his wife Alex Cahill and CD. Not even Donovan Riggs (played by Gary Busey) called him Cord and that man is #@(%ing crazy. [[User:Rmccorma|Rmccorma]] ([[User talk:Rmccorma|talk]]) 02:53, 11 December 2007 (UTC) rmccorma

==Chuck Norris wants his latest book pulled off shelves because it is "a big lie"==
http://www.komotv.com/news/entertainment/12773847.html [[User:Dio Only Uses a Knife|Dio Only Uses a Knife]] ([[User talk:Dio Only Uses a Knife|talk]]) 12:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

== Moscow Casino ==

Chuck Norris was involved in building a casino in Moscow. He hired US carpenters to go to Moscow to work on the project and then stiffed them. When one man tried to get paid by investigating the contacts Norris had in Russia, he was told by the police that the feds were involved and the local police couldn't do anything about it.[[User:Goddess04|Goddess04]] ([[User talk:Goddess04|talk]]) 05:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

==Chuck Norris Action Jeans==

I beg somebody with better editing skills to add something about Chuck Norris Action Jeans (see http://www.denimology.co.uk/2006/09/chuck_norris_action_jeans.php or http://www.geekologie.com/2007/07/chuck_norris_action_jeans.php) to the pop-culture section. There was even a tribute song to those jeans by the 90s Austin (TX) band "Gal's Panic" ( http://www.amazon.com/We-Need-Helicopters-Gals-Panic/dp/B000005D6W ). I somehow don't have an edit tab showing on the Chuck Norris page, or I'd do it myself. My apologies.

: Good find sir, I'll get on tonight if no one else does.. [[User:EvanCarroll|EvanCarroll]] ([[User talk:EvanCarroll|talk]]) 17:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris supports Huckabee ==

I saw Chuck Norris behind Mike Huckabee in Fox when behind Huckabee setting down in New Hamshire Primary on Fox today. Not lying here. [[User:Renegadeviking|Renegadeviking]] 01/04/08 17:19 CST <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 23:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny ==
While the flash movie was rather amusing, at best it deserve only a brief mention under something like the internet phenomenon. It certainly doesn't warrant a list of all the hypothetical people 'assembled to defeat him'. This kind of joking around is best saved for Chuck Norris fan forums. [[User:Gerbilkit|Gerbilkit]] ([[User talk:Gerbilkit|talk]]) 20:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Chuck Norrie ==
Not to insult anyone but Navasota is in East Texas, outside of Houston. The Lone Wolf Ranch is outside of Navasota. It is a beauty and everyone in the area gives him peach and quiet and the respect that he deserves.
[[User:Littlefatponies|Littlefatponies]] ([[User talk:Littlefatponies|talk]]) 04:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Pamela Alell

== Training ==
Was his only training for tournament karate the skills he learned in South Korea? I thought generally the article does not make clear enough how he developed his skills. If I have time I might come back to edit this but just wanted to raise the issue in case someone else wanted to work on this who already knows what's up. Thanks. [[User:Andropod|Andropod]] ([[User talk:Andropod|talk]]) 14:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

== The ancestry of Carlos Ray Norris, A.K.A. "Chuck Norris" ==

I've posted my work based on research done with Ancestry.com's resources, and various other sources.
It is my hope that others can use this as a starting point for their own Norris family research.

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=14x24&id=I0001

== Physical Stats ==

Considering Chuck Norris is/was a professional fighter. There should be a listing of his physical stats. Height, weight etc. Chuck Norris as simply an actor i understand why they may or may not be listed. But considering he began and was primarily a professional fight... these shats should be listed.

I'm not talking about now, just during his fight career.

Your thoughts on this?
[[User:Ga1lyons|Ga1lyons]] ([[User talk:Ga1lyons|talk]]) 05:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris Joke Book ==

I recently saw a new CN joke book written, of all people, by two rabbis in Jerusalem. http://www..com/content/848937
Maybe that belongs under "Chuck Norris in Popular Culture."

[[User:Maddsquid|Maddsquid]] ([[User talk:Maddsquid|talk]]) 16:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

== AP at March Air Force Base ==

What does "AP" stand for? -[[Special:Contributions/62.219.97.252|62.219.97.252]] ([[User talk:62.219.97.252|talk]]) 20:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

::: "Air Police" military police in the Air Force <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.49.77.67|216.49.77.67]] ([[User talk:216.49.77.67|talk]]) 21:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Protection? ==

Should the article be protected? It seems like almost half of all the edits are vandalisms <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/85.131.107.252|85.131.107.252]] ([[User talk:85.131.107.252|talk]]) 22:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Surely Chuck Norris needs no protection?--[[Special:Contributions/91.84.84.234|91.84.84.234]] ([[User talk:91.84.84.234|talk]]) 21:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

chuck norris once visited the virgin islands...now they are called just islands!!! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/87.101.81.214|87.101.81.214]] ([[User talk:87.101.81.214|talk]]) 02:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Chuck Norris ==

Aaron Norris: the actores have since last year their new projects: reading in the sites of: Rachel Skarsten: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: written: undo is my IP-Address to: search and enjoy the price: Robert De Niro: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: you must to search: written two weeks ago at the weekend: Chuck Norris: there are only one life: until to: the projects: do it right: there´s notghing to loose: Aaron Norris: is: Chuck Norris: a new human: the mother of Aaron Norris brought Chuck Norris into the world: got the name Aaron: a new human: now you know: step into your own life: guys: you want action i give you action: concentration: not speaking: a little bit fighting: fighting: you must to survive: Saw I - Saw V: try to survive and enjoy: enjoy the price of real action:I´m S-o-r-r-y: T-o-m-m-y R-e-e-v-e: you know who i am: worldwide: that´s right: wishing you the best to the awards: take my mission: you know our actor love is: www. you tube com. de, broadcast yourself, search for: California Love: next: fight machine like me: machine: don´t be confused: don´t: step into your own life: let me enjoy you: step: you wanted to be a fight machine like me: machine: but: shit: but: i can´t see you: come on: take your chance: you got only one life: there´s nothing to loose !
Chuck Norris is cooler than the guy that wrote "Protection?" <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/69.248.190.233|69.248.190.233]] ([[User talk:69.248.190.233|talk]]) 20:54, 5 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Refrences in Popular Culture ==

Shouldn't we mention something about how Norris kjeeps popping up in pop culture? For example, I was just watching "[[Pani Poni Dash!]]" episode 22, and Ichijō mentions about how "Chuck Norris is better" than Becky.
[[Special:Contributions/24.124.88.11|24.124.88.11]] ([[User talk:24.124.88.11|talk]]) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|comment]] was added at 20:40, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->Chuck Norris Will kill You if you say he is a sissy.

== should I mention Chuck is highly critical to evolution? ==

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001569/bio

Although conservapedia mentions this, but I'm trying to find a good cite that shows Chuck being highly critical to evolution. Can anyone say if this is legit?[[User:Dark paladin x|Dark paladin x]] ([[User talk:Dark paladin x|talk]]) 14:40, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Uh, yeah... ==
Note the caption in the first photo. I would fix it, but the page is locked. [[Special:Contributions/128.174.26.21|128.174.26.21]] ([[User talk:128.174.26.21|talk]]) 13:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== DOCTOR Chuck ==

I was at Liberty University this past weekend when he gave the commencement speech, which was absolutely epic, anyway, Falwell Jr. gave him an honorary doctorate, so he's now Doctor Carlos Ray "Chuck" Norris. I think that's worth mentioning. This is exactly what Liberty University's web page said:

"LU Chancellor and President Jerry Falwell Jr. said this was a first for LU: “Today is historic because it is the first commencement address at Liberty that will be delivered in cowboy boots.”

Carlos Ray Norris, who is most known for his good-guy role defending justice on TV’s Walker, Texas Ranger, then received an honorary degree, Doctorate of Humanities, from Liberty."

All the information, and more, can be found at this link on Liberty's official website:
https://www.liberty.edu/libertyjournal/index.cfm?PID=16046&artid=185

and here's a picture someone from the graduating class got of him on the stage with his robes on:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/epicreflection/2490268522/ <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Farrella23|Farrella23]] ([[User talk:Farrella23|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Farrella23|contribs]]) 07:59, 14 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Page vandalised ==

Please someone proceed to undo last edit --[[Special:Contributions/190.95.22.190|190.95.22.190]] ([[User talk:190.95.22.190|talk]]) 21:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== this is wrong ==

chuck norris was an undefeated karate champion and joe louis was a boxer. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.184.71.125|71.184.71.125]] ([[User talk:71.184.71.125|talk]]) 17:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== How tall? ==

Officially he's 5'10" but in fact he's more like 5'8" from what I could tell. Smells of scandal! His height is an issue because he's an inspiration for tiny little cute guys everywhere. They can live the life of massive impressive physical speciments if they can actually get away with it. Perhaps there should be an entry on people whose vision prevents them from correctly judging people's heights or reading a measuring tape. --[[User:Megaforcemedia|Megaforcemedia]] ([[User talk:Megaforcemedia|talk]]) 15:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Junior? ==

With a few web searches I couldn't turn up any reference to his birth name including a Jr. that seemed to be independent of and more reliable than Wikipedia. Also, in his autobiography [http://books.google.com/books?id=KNfwZWSnCSQC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Against+All+Odds&sig=EQIqxE_Z0Kn58Z026lOG8pncgWg#PPA11,M1] he says his father's name is Ray, and the genealogy link [http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=14x24&id=I0001] someone has in this discussion page says it's Ray D. Norris. Also, his father being Carlos and he being Jr. is inconsistent with him being named after his minister, which he also says in his autobiography. So I changed it.
Also, both the cited NYT article and his book spell his brother's name Wieland. [[User:Zander|Zander]] ([[User talk:Zander|talk]]) 01:16, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Birth date issue? ==

Astrodatabank.com quotes his autobiography for March 10, '''1942'''?? Can someone source the 1940 date? --[[User:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|Nathanael Bar-Aur L.]] ([[User talk:Nathanael Bar-Aur L.|talk]]) 21:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== Family man quote is too strong ==

Under Personal Life, after detailing how he had a child out of wedlock the following quote shows up:

"Norris has always been a very loving family man"

Which uses a People magazine article of him hugging his adult sons as evidence.

This seems to be pretty weak evidence for this assertion.

:Fisrt, please use the four tilde thing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your posts. It's easier to refer to someone when there's a someone to refer to. Second, I'm not sure what is the problem. Are you saying that having children out of wedlock demeans the "family man" comment? Or that hugging his son is not enough proof? I'm not sure the picture is there to provide proof for the statement (that would be OR and should be eliminated if that's the case). If you don't believe the statement then place a {{tl|fact}} tag on it and see what turns up. If you could explain more clearly what the problem is maybe I could help further. [[user|padillaH]] <sup>([[Wikipedia:Editor_review/Padillah|review me]])</sup><sub>([[H. Tomàs Padilla|help me]])</sub> 18:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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Market Street Row
Looking north along Market, 2008.
Mott-Van Kleeck House is at center.
LocationPoughkeepsie, NY
Builtca. 1780 (Mott-Van Kleeck House), 1880s[1]
Architectural styleFederal, mixed late Victorian
MPSPoughkeepsie MRA
NRHP reference No.82001149
Added to NRHP1982

The Market Street Row is located on the west side of that street in Poughkeepsie, New York, United States, just south of Hulme Park and across from the Adriance Memorial Library, on the southern edge of downtown. It includes three houses, including the Mott-Van Kleeck House, the oldest frame house in the city.[1]

Market Street is Poughkeepsie's oldest, in existence in 1709 when a royal decree made it part of the King's Highway, later to become the Albany Post Road after independence. The Mott-Van Kleeck House was built around 1780 by a descendant of the Van Kleeck family, one of Poughkeepsie's oldest.[2] Stylistically it is a precursor to the Federal style, in which later decorative motifs were added. For many years it indicated the beginning of Poughkeepsie to travelers.

In the late 19th century, around 1880, the two neighboring houses were built. They were ornate two-and-a-half story brick structures with peaked slate roofs, iron cresting, and Shingle style porches. A tower was added to the Mott-Van Kleeck House, in sympathetic colors and materials.[1]

In the automotive era, Market Street was incorporated into US 9, the main route for drivers from New York City to Albany until the construction of the New York State Thruway and the subsequent rerouting of Route 9 onto a new expressway through the city. The houses became decrepit and were threatened during urban renewal efforts in the 1970s.[1] They were preserved instead, and added to the National Register of Historic Places in 1982. Today they have been redeveloped into commercial offices,[1] like the Hasbrouck House and Amrita Club nearby.

References

  1. ^ a b c d e Sharp, Townley (1980-08-12). "National Register of Historic Places nomination, Market Street Row". Retrieved 2008-04-14.
  2. ^ Smith, James H. (1882). "XXX". History of the City of Poughkeepsie. unknown. The first settlers were Dutch, and among the first, if not the first, was Baltus VAN KLEECK
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