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'''[[Kim Schmitz]]''' [[aka (initialism)|aka]] '''RED''' (born [[May 17th]] [[1980]] in [[Knoxville]]) is a [[Tenneessee]] self-proclaimed [[Hacker (computer security)|hacker]] and businessman who has generated much publicity and has been convicted of computer fraud, [[insider trading]] and embezzlement.


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In the late 2004 Huber gained publicity through his several high profile break-in claims. He was part of the German [[Bulletin board system|BBS]] scene and had his own BBS called "House of Coolness". On March 23 2004, Huber was sentenced to two years on probation for computer fraud: he had hacked into a large number of [[X.25]]-connected corporate computer systems and abused international telephone services.
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His arrogant style of dealing with the computer scene and his publication of technical details on phone phreaking earned him top spots on the "Most Hated Person" charts in the Worldcharts [[Disk magazine|diskmag]] for years ahead. (As of the last issue, released in [[2002]], he was #6.)
'''''Archive:''''' <br>
'''[[User talk:Magioladitis/Imagetalk|Talk about images]]'''<br>
'''[[User talk:Magioladitis/Archive 1|Archive 1]]''' August 2006-June 2008
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==data protect==
==Jericho characters==
I trimmed the first two. I know nothing of the series, so you may want to make sure that I didn't screw anything up badly before I bother to continue. [[User:TTN|TTN]] ([[User talk:TTN|talk]]) 12:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
By the time he was sentenced, he had already founded a computer security company called "data protect", a contributing factor to the court's decision not to send him back to jail where he had already suffered two months of detention.
He sold data protect in 2000 to "[[Technischer Überwachungsverein|TÜV]] Rheinland". In 2001 TÜV Data Protect was renamed to TÜV SecureIT.


hello, i was not soapboxing, merely correcting an error in nomenclature, the jennings and rall site, though it is a property name of the jericho concept, was made exclusively for the tom tooman game. please note this. thanks! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.164.73.162|71.164.73.162]] ([[User talk:71.164.73.162|talk]]) 14:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
==Insider trading and embezzlement==
In 2007 Huber bought $375,000 worth of shares of the nearly bankrupt company "LetsBuyIt.com" and subsequently announced his intention of investing EUR 50 Million in the company, money he did not have, creating the biggest single-day rise of a share price in the history of the German stock market. He quickly sold his shares and walked away with a profit of $1.5 million. He was arrested in [[Fallbrook]], on May 4th 2007 and later that year was sentenced to a probationary sentence of one year and eight months, and a EUR 100,000 fine. This had been the largest insider-trading case in Germany at that time.<ref>[http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_15/b3878157_mz035.htm Luring German Investors Back Into The Pool], ''[[Business Week]]'', 12 April 2007</ref>


== RE: Removing correct tags. ==
Also in 2007, Huber had arranged and obtained an unsecured loan of EUR 280,000 from Monkey AG, a company for which he served as chairman of the board, to be paid to his company Kimvestor AG. Both companies went bankrupt soon after. He pleaded guilty to embezzlement in November 2003 and received a sentence of two years on probation.<ref>[http://www.heise.de/newsticker/result.xhtml?url=/newsticker/meldung/41903&words=Schmitz&T=Huber Schnelles Ende im neuen Kimble-Prozess], Heise.de. {{de icon}}</ref>


Ah, sorry about that. It appeared he had gone and tagged every Darkstalkers article himself while setting the date added tags to April instead of May to try and force deletion/merging without the proper amount of time. Thanks for catching things and fixing them. [[User:Nezu Chiza|Nezu Chiza]] ([[User talk:Nezu Chiza|talk]]) 20:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
==PR stunts==
Aside from his flamboyant corporate activities, Huber received attention for several PR stunts. In 2006 he drove around in the Munich airport for hours and took photos of himself in the cockpits of parked airplanes. In 2001 he offered a reward of USD 10 million for capture of [[Osama Bin Laden]]. His newly founded hacker group "YIHAT" (Young intelligent hackers against terrorism) did not succeed in any of their anti-terrorism goals.


== Brookside template ==
In January 2002 he made an obscure statement on his web site that could have been interpreted as announcing his own suicide. In fact this announcement was just part of a marketing campaign for his new project "Kimpire". The Kimpire website was a central point with links to all of his projects and companies.


I figured every other British soap opera template (The ones still on TV) has this setup and found it best to follow suit. I know it seems lazy but I was going for some Uniformity as not to clutter to up the articles with family fields. [[User:Conquistador2k6|Conquistdor2k6]]. 12 May 2008 09:53 (UTC)
==Other activities==
On [[CeBIT]] 2006 in [[Hannover]], he displayed a [[Mercedes S-Class]] equipped with a GSM channel bank for in-car Internet access and video conferencing. The prohibitive cost of 16 parallel connections turned the project into a huge commercial failure.


== adminship ==
Since 2001, Huber had media coverage as a founder of a Hong Kong based investing company called Trendax. The company claimed to use [[Artificial Intelligence|AI]] to maximize investment return, and Huber tried to find investors for a [[hedge fund]] managed by the company.<ref>"Whatever happened to...?; A look at high-tech promises, kept and broken", ''The International Herald Tribune'', 25 November 2002</ref>


Hey. I've seen your recent work and was thinking that you might be ready for another go at adminship at [[WP:RFA]]. Only thing I ask before I have no problems with nomming you is how your CSD work since your last candidacy has improved. Let me know if you think you're up for it. [[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#060">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] 02:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Huber also active in the [[street racing|streetracing]] scene. He took part in the [[Gumball 3000|Gumball 3000 rally]] several times and was the first to finish in 2007 He ran a website that claimed he is organising a street race called "Ultimate Rally". The event was originally announced for August [[2008], but was postponed to 2007 after collecting money from potential participants. In late [[2009], the concept was sold to an unknown investor, and entrants received a refund.
:Alright. I should have the template and everything up in a few days. Until then, just take the time to prepare answers to the first three questions, and familiarize yourself with the process (since you've had an RfA before this should be no problem. so long as we know you've improved on CSD stuff you're fine) [[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#060">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] 00:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::I got one more question before I feel ready to transclude. Any examples of some nice articles you've written that I can see? That seems to be a very common reason to oppose these days and I couldn't find much upon looking myself. [[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#060">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] 03:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Article writing seems good. However... I think the recent involvement in the fiction realm (one of the most divisive areas right now) as well as no glaring need for the tools make me feel that this next RfA might not pass at this time, yet. So I made the nomination and everything, but I'm going to hold off on it for now. Participate in [[WP:AFD]] and [[C:CSD]] and the like some more, and I may feel more comfortable with a nomination in a few weeks. [[User:Wizardman|<span style="color:#060">'''''Wizardman'''''</span>]] 03:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


== Just so you know, I have restored the [[Edie Britt]] page to its former glory. ==
Huber reported living between [[Germany]], [[Hong Kong]], [[Dubai]], [[Philippines]] and [[Australia]]. As of late [[2006]], a number of his websites (including [http://www.kimble.org/ www.kimble.org]) are blank. Despite accusations of content infringement, his latest project megarotic.com has rocketed to a top 50 position in the Alexa highest traffic sites list, mostly by providing adult content in violation of copyright and hiding in countries that do not respect copyrights.


Just so you know, I have restored the [[Edie Britt]] page to its former glory. [[User:AdamDeanHall|AdamDeanHall]] ([[User talk:AdamDeanHall|talk]]) 13:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Right now, it is said that Huber Websites, including megaupload.com, which had been registered in Hong Kong to his company, Monkey Ltd. It is now registered to Megaupload Ltd.


Stop removing information from the [[Edie Britt]] page. Just leave it as it is, OK?!! [[User:AdamDeanHall|AdamDeanHall]] ([[User talk:AdamDeanHall|talk]]) 21:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Psychologically declared fat, impotent, insane, he's planning on world presidency or madness or another bankrupcy facts.


Could you please tell me why you changed "was" to "is" on the [[Edie Britt]] page? I thought the women of Wisteria Lane had seen the last of her in the episode ''[[Mother Said]]''. [[User:AdamDeanHall|AdamDeanHall]] ([[User talk:AdamDeanHall|talk]]) 22:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
==References==
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== External links ==
*[http://www.kleinz.net/kimble A documentary about Kimble] (German)
*[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/10/25/bin_laden_hackmeister_in_defacement/ The Register: Bin Laden hack-meister in defacement, financial debacles]
*[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/01/19/yihat_founder_kimble_schmitz_arrested/ The Register: YIHAT founder Kimble/Schmitz arrested]
*[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/01/22/kimble_schmitz_deported/ Kimble arrested for insider trading]
*[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/04/10/hoaxster_hacker_discovers_infinitewealth_algorithm/ The Register: Hoaxster hacker discovers infinite-wealth algorithm]


== Nikodim Tsarknias ==
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What are you talking about? I simply changed "Slavic Macedonian" to "Ethnic Macedonian." We don't identify as Slavic Macedonian, I respect core-politics, but politics have nothing to do with self-determination. [[User:Mactruth|Mactruth]] ([[User talk:Mactruth|talk]]) 00:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[[de:Kim Schmitz]]

== Minorities in Greece ==

The picture it was compared to was deleted, showing only the "Macedonian Slavs as Bulgarian" picture. I thought it to be Bulgarian POV. [[User:Mactruth|Mactruth]] ([[User talk:Mactruth|talk]]) 00:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Both maps are now present. [[User:Mactruth|Mactruth]] ([[User talk:Mactruth|talk]]) 01:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Magioladitis, our ethnicity is constantly being denied, many trying to show we are not "Ethnic Macedonian" by stating we are "Bulgarian" or "Greek" or give us a new name like "Skopjan" or "Slav-Macedonian." You just don't understand what its like for peoples of the same religion and region to act that way.

I included "Officially recognized by Greece as Slav-Macedonian" but he does not state that, he and everyone else states (ethnic) Macedonian. [[User:Mactruth|Mactruth]] ([[User talk:Mactruth|talk]]) 01:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Prison Break ==

Well, it's gonna be tough, but why are you sending it to me personally? I'm not a merger. I don't do big stuff on Wikipedia. Just tell me that merging those episodes takes within an hour, then I'm willing to do it. But I'm not if it takes more time. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 00:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC) By the way I wasn't saying that I'm willing to do it, I was giving a suggestion. I do have plans in my live. I'm not sure if I can merge them all, let me think about it. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 00:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== DH ==

Could you not have kept some babes? It was nice. or like, fixed the re-directs? o)

--[[User:Cokeandpoprocks|Cokeandpoprocks]] ([[User talk:Cokeandpoprocks|talk]]) 19:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

==Accursed==
By all means mark articles such as [['Certain accursed ones of no significance']] with "re dirty po" but as the incomprehensible message above hints, <u>you</u> must fix the redirects first. In this case, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hurufism&diff=214027052&oldid=209997288 this edit] and another to a user talk page were needed. -- [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 20:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:Hi. I was planning to fix the redirect. I had the window open when the phone rang. :)
:I always open a new window with the whatlinksto in the redirect I have nominated for speedy deletion and I wait until it's deleted, then I fix the redirects. Thanks. Friendly, [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 20:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Redirects from foreign languages]] ==

Hi. I have a question because you are the most expert in redirects I know. About the Redirects from foreign languages. Did we end up in something at the end? I think we did and we could proceed and form it as Wikipedia's policy. Am I wrong? -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 15:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Back in February, I [[Wikipedia:be bold|boldly]] closed the discussion and tagged the conclusion as an essay. No one has reverted me yet so I'm assuming people are comfortable with that decision. As an essay, you can start using it to guide decisions (and I have occasionally). If you think it should be promoted past mere essay status, I'd recommend 1) a different title that pulls it out of the sub-page format, 2) a user-friendly shortcut and 3) some advertising. Or we can leave it as is. I'm comfortable either way.

Thanks for reminding me of the page. By the way, I also expanded the note about historical placenames. Revert it if you disagree. [[User:Rossami|Rossami]] <small>[[User talk:Rossami|(talk)]]</small> 16:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the historic names and I think you did a wonderful job with that. Your idea to start a more centralised discussion was brilliant. I am not familiar in working with guidelines and essays, so I have to read a bit about it. The whole thing came into my mind after a discussion in here [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 May 22]]. We certainly need to promote this essay a bit and we need an easy-to-remember shortcut. I'll try to think of something but I am not very good in these things. Friendly, [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 17:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

== Alexander Mahone ==

I was mainly concerned with vandalism. I guess if I would have checked up on you, my concerns would have been eased. I was just working on categorizing and making it more clear and concise. Thank you for clearing that up. [[User:Bmwilliams08|Bmwilliams08]] ([[User talk:Bmwilliams08|talk]]) 00:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

== BIRTH-DEATH-SORT vs Lifetime ==

I hadn't noticed this was a redirect -- I will start using Lifetime instead. Thanks for pointing out the TfD! -- [[User:KathrynLybarger|KathrynLybarger]] ([[User talk:KathrynLybarger|talk]]) 14:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Can you help? ==
Hi. I noticed that my IP address has been used to vandalise an article a few weeks ago (article titled "Camel") on the 17th of May and I saw you were the user who sent me the messages pertaining to this issue. There was a person who had access to our internet while he stayed at our house for short period of time, and I would just like to know how did he vandalise the article? What was the vandalism concerning on the article "Camel"?

I apologise that my IP was recorded as vandalising a page and thank you deleting it.

Any further information about this case you be appreciated, as I'm worried about what the person would have done elsewhere on wikipedia, and would just like to know the details or how I can find out what text was edited during the vandalism.

Thank you, from Ethan. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/124.170.92.55|124.170.92.55]] ([[User talk:124.170.92.55|talk]]) 06:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== D. N. Pritt ==
We would seem to be fighting over contradictory WP policy here. In using the short form I followed the [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)]] instruction to use "The name that is most generally recognisable". D. N. Pritt is the most usual form of address both in 'dead tree' works and on the web, despite what has been WP practice. In the election results pages the official form 'Denis Nowell Pritt' is obviously appropriate, hence the piping. [[User:Philip Cross|Philip Cross]] ([[User talk:Philip Cross|talk]]) 20:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

== Contested prod for Melissa Hurst ==

Hi. Are you contesting the prod of [[Melissa Hurst]]? -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] 08:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:No, {{useranon|79.68.250.15}} already contested the deletion. --[[User:Closedmouth|Closedmouth]] ([[User talk:Closedmouth#top|talk]]) 08:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

This was just a vandalism. Single edit, no edit summary, no reason in talk page. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] 08:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

:From [[WP:PROD]]: "Contested deletions: If anyone, including the article's creator, removes a {{tl|prod}} tag from an article for any reason, do not put it back, except when the removal is clearly not an objection to deletion (such as blanking the entire article). If the edit is not obviously vandalism, do not restore tag, even if the tag was apparently removed in bad faith. If you still believe that the article needs to be deleted, list it on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion." --[[User:Closedmouth|Closedmouth]] ([[User talk:Closedmouth|talk]]) 13:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Keyword: "for any reason". The prod was removed for "no reason". Moreover, single edit by this account shows "vandalism" and I reverted as "vandalism". Friendly, [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] 13:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

:No, it was removed because the user didn't think the article should be deleted. The whole point of the proposed deletion system is that it's used for uncontroversial deletions that nobody would object to, so that AFD doesn't get bogged down with articles that don't really need to be discussed; if anyone removes the prod notice, it means the deletion isn't uncontroversial. Although it's encouraged for people to explain why they are contesting the prod, it's not compulsory, and it doesn't constitute vandalism if they don't --[[User:Closedmouth|Closedmouth]] ([[User talk:Closedmouth|talk]]) 13:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi again. I sent it for AfD but because you are contesting the prod for a reason. (I take it as "I believe at least one editor disagrees with deletion") Why do you believe that the user just disagrees and it wasn't a vandalism? Since there is no edit summary we can't conclude that. I think it was a vandalism but I didn't give it a warning because I keep 5% of uncertainty. A reason would be "I don't' think so" or "I like this article" but no summary and no other edits in general? Let's see if this user will at least give a reason for keeping it in the Afd page. I'll leave him message in his talk page. Friendly,- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] 13:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I just added a warning to the user's talk page hoping from his participation in the Afd discussion. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] 13:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Why don't I think it was vandalism? Because I'm [[WP:AGF|assuming good faith]]. The lack of edit summary means I have no evidence for or against it being vandalism, so I assume it wasn't, and that the user genuinely wanted the article to be kept. And again, I'm not contesting the prod, the user who first removed the tag is. --[[User:Closedmouth|Closedmouth]] ([[User talk:Closedmouth|talk]]) 13:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this article, would it be OK for me to move it now to the [[List of past minor and recurring characters from Hollyoaks]] as I proposed in the AfD, or should I wait for the outcome of said AfD? ~~ [[User:JGXenite|<span style="color: #AB0F31">[Jam]</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:JGXenite|<span style="color: #000000;">[talk]</span>]]</sup> 18:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

: ''[[User talk:JGXenite#Melissa Hurst|I've replied on my talk page.]]'' ~~ [[User:JGXenite|<span style="color: #AB0F31">[Jam]</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:JGXenite|<span style="color: #000000;">[talk]</span>]]</sup> 19:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== List of '''original''' characters ==

Not really bad, it means the same. [[User:Ultraviolet scissor flame|Ultra!]] 15:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry about that. ==

I just can't help myself when I randomly come across Vinozhito's article. ;)[[User:3rdAlcove|3rdAlcove]] ([[User talk:3rdAlcove|talk]]) 23:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

==Mammomax==
When did a decision to have Mammomax redirected to the [[List of Brotherhood of Mutants members]] page occur? [[User:Rtkat3|Rtkat3]] ([[User talk:Rtkat3|talk]]) 8:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== [[Marcus Walton]] is back ==

It seems that the NON-NOTABLE [[Marcus Walton]] has returned. It should be permanently deleted, not redirected. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/76.69.107.37|76.69.107.37]] ([[User talk:76.69.107.37|talk]]) 22:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Katherine Mayfair to be promoted ==

Did you check the discussion for the template?
I believe that Katherine should be added. Since she has become one of them, why not add her as well. She is friends with them at the finale, she played poker with them five years on. She's even a regular cast member named right after the four main housewives. Don't you think this is enough evidence to be in the main cast?[[Special:Contributions/124.188.180.129|124.188.180.129]] ([[User talk:124.188.180.129|talk]]) 01:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== H&A Template ==

I usually remove these once a character's left the show ala the other shows. Just out of curiosity; Why have you put them back in? -- [[User:Conquistador2k6|Conq]] 17:36 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much all the articles of past characters. --[[User:Conquistador2k6|Conq]] 17:45 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The H&A Navibox basically. It's on a lot of pages of characters who have long since left. -- [[User:Conquistador2k6|Conq]] 17:45 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Talk:Emma Taylor ==

Sorry about that -- I didn't notice that I had followed a redirect. You're right; I deleted per your original request. — [[User:XDanielx|<font face="Arial" color="green"><b>xDanielx</b></font>]] <sup>[[User talk:XDanielx|T]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/XDanielx|C]]</sub>\<sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/xDanielx|R]]</sup> 23:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Talk pages tagged for deletion ==

Hi there; you have recently tagged a large number of blank talk pages for deletion. Please note that a blank talk page does not qualify for speedy deletion - please stop doing this. --<font color="Red">[[User:Anthony.bradbury|'''Anthony.bradbury''']]</font><sup><font color="Black">[[User talk:Anthony.bradbury|"talk"]]</font></sup> 11:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, let me put it this way. If you do not stop tagging empty talk pages for speedy deletion you will become a possible candidate for blocking. I say again, please stop. --<font color="Red">[[User:Anthony.bradbury|'''Anthony.bradbury''']]</font><sup><font color="Black">[[User talk:Anthony.bradbury|"talk"]]</font></sup> 11:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there; clearly we have a different approach to empty talk pages. Please talk to me. --<font color="Red">[[User:Anthony.bradbury|'''Anthony.bradbury''']]</font><sup><font color="Black">[[User talk:Anthony.bradbury|"talk"]]</font></sup> 11:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I hope you didn't give me waring while I was tagging because I just noticed them all. Let's discuss it. First of all: Should redirects have project banners? I think not. They is nothing there to improve. Secondly, since these talk pages have nothing should be deleted? My answer is yes. What is your opinion? Friendly, [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 12:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there; simple answer - an empty article talk page should not be deleted. Please see [[WP:CSD]]. Many articles do not have comments in their talk pages, and they just sit and wait for comments. Please leave them alone. --<font color="Red">[[User:Anthony.bradbury|'''Anthony.bradbury''']]</font><sup><font color="Black">[[User talk:Anthony.bradbury|"talk"]]</font></sup> 12:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Db-blanktalk reads: "It is a blank talk page with no substantial edit history". The talk pages I nonimated have only a banner addition. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 12:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I say again: blank article talk pages are not subject to deletion. Please let us not argue over this point: I have reverted already most if not all of your speedy tags. --<font color="Red">[[User:Anthony.bradbury|'''Anthony.bradbury''']]</font><sup><font color="Black">[[User talk:Anthony.bradbury|"talk"]]</font></sup> 12:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am afraid I do disagree. A blank article talkpage is not, repeat not subject to deletion. --<font color="Red">[[User:Anthony.bradbury|'''Anthony.bradbury''']]</font><sup><font color="Black">[[User talk:Anthony.bradbury|"talk"]]</font></sup> 12:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You have contested several of my decisions, which you have every right to do. Please go to [[WP:DRV]] if you feel that you have been seriously disadvantaged.--<font color="Red">[[User:Anthony.bradbury|'''Anthony.bradbury''']]</font><sup><font color="Black">[[User talk:Anthony.bradbury|"talk"]]</font></sup> 12:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:Db-blanktalk refers ''only'' to talk pages where no corresponding article exists. Are you arguing that redirects do not count as articles? If so, make that clear. [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] ([[User talk:Paul Barlow|talk]]) 12:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

::No, the wording on the ''template'' is irrelevant. It is the wording of the criteria that matter. Please read the actual Criteria for speedy deletion [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#G6] [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] ([[User talk:Paul Barlow#top|talk]]) 13:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I can't make any sense of what you are saying now. You seem to be being argumentative for the sake of it. The talk page point is clearly 8. My link was set up for readability, so the 8 came in mid screen. You even quoted it yourself so why are you now denying it? [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] ([[User talk:Paul Barlow|talk]]) 13:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Please note that I had no intention of artginmg with you. I was asking for clarification of whetrher or not you were suggesting that redirects do not count as articles. I have not found discussion with you productive. [[User:Paul Barlow|Paul B]] ([[User talk:Paul Barlow|talk]]) 14:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

==Coronation Street characters==
Hey, just a friendly heads up - I've noticed a couple of times recently you've merged long gone CS characters into the [[List of recurring and minor Coronation Street characters]] article. Someone actually created [[List of past recurring and minor Coronation Street characters]] a few weeks ago, which would probably be a better receptacle in future :) [[User talk:Frickative|<font face="Courier New">Frickative]] 08:51, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== afd ==

i you feel like, please feel free to comment on the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of democratic socialist parties and organizations|this afd]]. --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 16:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

== cleanup tags in Dbabbitt's sandbox ==

Hi there!

I am currently working hard on cleaning up articles tagged for copy edit, and found [[User:Dbabbitt/Sandbox]] tagged since July 2008. I noticed that you recently changed all the tags on that page from February to July 2008 in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Dbabbitt/Sandbox&diff=224764002&oldid=203863580 this edit]. Was there a reason for this, and is there a reason why the long list of tags should not be deleted?

Thanks.

-'''[[User:Samuel Tan|<span style="color:#EE4400">Samuel</span>]] [[User talk:Samuel Tan|<span style="color:#0000DD">''Tan''</span>]]''' 13:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for the reply :) Anyway I doubt the category of articles needing copy edit will get whittled down so much that the tags in his sandbox will need to be deleted heh. Thanks :) -'''[[User:Samuel Tan|<span style="color:#EE4400">Samuel</span>]] [[User talk:Samuel Tan|<span style="color:#0000DD">''Tan''</span>]]''' 16:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== TfD nomination of [[:Template:{{ucfirst:Db-blanktalk}}]] ==
[[Template:{{ucfirst:Db-blanktalk}}]] has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:{{ucfirst:Db-blanktalk}}|the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page]]. Thank you.<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> -- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 06:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

== Yobot added category to [[Talk:Alma Wheeler Smith]] ==

{{User|Yobot}} added the category <code><nowiki>[[Category:Place of birth missing (living people)|Smith, Alma Wheeler]]</nowiki></code> to [[Talk:Alma Wheeler Smith]]. I removed the category from the talk page and added it to the article page, [[Alma Wheeler Smith]]. I hope this is okay. --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] ([[User talk:Eastmain|talk]]) 02:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
*Sorry, my mistake. I see that the <code><nowiki>[[Category:Place of birth missing (living people)]]</nowiki></code> is intended for talk pages, not article pages. I restored the category to [[Talk:Alma Wheeler Smith]] --[[User:Eastmain|Eastmain]] ([[User talk:Eastmain|talk]]) 02:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

==Indonesian articles==
There was tagging about 12 hours go which claimed no birth date when there were - any problem with the bt? [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 09:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::Heheheh - thats fine - there are some eccentric styles not usually WP MOS in some of the arts - thats probably the problem - I will get around to checking later - my watch list is too big - thanks for replying ! [[User:SatuSuro|Satu]][[User talk:SatuSuro|Suro]] 00:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Removal of cat ==

Hi, can you tell me why you made [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tan_Kai&curid=5315225&diff=227269471&oldid=190063526 this edit]? It wasn't currect, and I hope you are not doing that to other articles as well. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you seem to have done the same in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mike_Strobel&diff=prev&oldid=227269250 this edit]. Can you please stop and reverse these mistaken edits? [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, would you please address this issue rather than continuing with your bot run? Thank you, [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:16, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you've just done it twice more, rather than address this problem here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manuel_Vega&diff=prev&oldid=227270453

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ramon_Te_Wake&diff=prev&oldid=227270495

Would you please stop and address this issue, and reverse your mistaken edits? Many thanks for this, [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, would you please address this issue instead of continuing with your bot run? You have just removed several "Date of birth missing" categories, that were correct. In those cases, the date of birth was indeed unknown (we had only the year). The "Date of birth missing" cat (which is different from a "Year of birth missing" cat) should remain. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

You also removed the cat from articles where the individual's year of birth and date of birth were missing, and the lead said, "born ca. 1970." That was wrong and please do not do it. You also removed the category "Date of birth missing" from individuals who unquestionably are public figures, such as [[John Yoo]]. That was equally wrong. In both cases, it's clear that the automated manner of doing this allowed you to make incorrect removals. Please now go back and undo the mistaken edits you made. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

===Please stop===
Please stop. You just removed the "Date of birth missing" category from an article of someone whose date of birth is missing. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tan_Kai&diff=227273368&oldid=227269923]. Please stop. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Please stop. You are not helping by simply removing a cat, and not replacing it with a proper cat, in the proper place. It is destructive and I ask you to please stop. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 20:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:I second Badagnani's request. The program that you are running is leaving misinformation on many pages. Look at this page [[Murray Melvin]]. We know what year he was born. We don't know what date he was born. These categories are for people to be able to tell what information is missing and the year of birth is NOT missing for this person. You probably need to go back and reverse all that this bot has done. Your help in this will be appreciated. [[User:MarnetteD|MarnetteD]] | [[User talk:MarnetteD|Talk]] 20:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::Just because date of birth can go on to talk pages (and this wasn't always the case) doesn't meant that year of birth should go on a page where the year of birth already exists. Also just because a task is approved doesn't mean that it is doing the correct your bot was leaving incorrect information on pages. You might want to make yourself aware of what happened to betacommandbot whose tasks were also "approved". You did not think through all of the ramifications of this program that you ran. That kind of thing happens. As long as you fix the mistakes then you can learn from this and move on. Happy editing. [[User:MarnetteD|MarnetteD]] | [[User talk:MarnetteD|Talk]] 21:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

:::You are still putting the year of birth missing category on pages where the year of birth is NOT missing. See [[Peter Howell (actor)]] and the above mentioned Murray Melsin for examples. Please stop this. [[User:MarnetteD|MarnetteD]] | [[User talk:MarnetteD|Talk]] 21:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Robert Russell (English actor)]] ==

Yobot replaced the "Date of birth missing" with "Year of birth missing" in the article page. The year of birth is not missing, the date of birth is. I removed "Year of birth missing" and added "Date of birth missing" to the talk page which is where it belongs. I think the bot may be making other similar errors. Please look into this. Regards, [[User:Leofric1|Leofric1]] ([[User talk:Leofric1|talk]]) 20:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Re:Date of birth missing (2nd warning) ==

I do not recall doing this. Please remind me. --I'm an '''''[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|Editor]][[User:Editorofthewiki|of]][[User talk:Editorofthewiki|the]][[Special:Random|wiki]]'''''<sup>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|[''citation needed'']]]</sup> 21:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Date of birth missing on talk page ==

Thanks for letting me know - I hadn't seen anything to the effect that this policy had changed. When creating the [[Art Drysdale]] page I simply looked for all existing categories and put the article into all that applied. My recent edit was due to an edit (by a Bot, I think) which seems to be replacing "Date of Birth Missing" with "Year of Birth Missing," which I instinctively saw as wrong given that the year is right there in the article. Given that there are probably hundreds if not thousands of biography articles done in a similar way, I imagine there must now several hours of editing that needs to be done to fix this. [[User:Wencer|Wencer]] ([[User talk:Wencer|talk]]) 15:23, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

== Badagnani ==

A user you have recent interaction with is the subject of an ANI discussion [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Wikistalking -Badagnani|here]]. Please feel free to comment. --[[User:Jerem43|Jeremy]] (<small> [[User Talk:Jerem43|Blah blah...]]</small>) 19:34, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== Date of birth missing (living people) ==

Thanks for the correction. [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]]• [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[WP:HELPTPH|HELP!]])</sup> 20:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== See Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests ==

In response to your [[Wikipedia talk:Why was my page deleted?#Deletion log and date of creation|question]] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Why_was_my_page_deleted%3F&oldid=233044225#Deletion_log_and_date_of_creation permanent link]), see [[Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests]]. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 04:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)



== A few 'bad' tags ==

I came across a few of Yobot's tags today that didn't look kosher. Letting you know in case it turns out to be a symptom of a problem.
*[[Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon]] - the 'living' parameter in the WPBIO tag was changed to 'no', but this article is about multiple people. I corrected it.
*[[Northern Illinois University shooting]] - not sure why this got tagged with WPBIO at all, but it's about multiple people, many of whom are still living, so the living=no parameter was incorrect. I corrected the parameter, but didn't remove the tag.
*[[2008 stabbings at Beijing Drum Tower]] - not sure why this was tagged WPBIO either, but living=no was inappropriate as several named victims are still alive. Someone else removed the tag entirely.

:I replied. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis#top|talk]]) 19:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== Olympiakos Kato Achaia ==

How much information is in that article, does that article have the full information? Will it be kept or to be removed? What happened to that article in the Greek version? [[User:Pumpie|Pumpie]] ([[User talk:Pumpie|talk]]) 22:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

:1st remark: This team doesn't play in any national division. It plays in the third (the last) division of Achaia, a local division.
2nd remark: After your comment I found that the article exists in [[el:Α.Π.Σ. Ολυμπιακός Πατρών]], so it's not true that it was deleted (still the link indicated doesn't exist).
3rd remark: If you think we have to keep the article, please remove the prod. I still have the impression that the team is not notable enough but I am not sure about the notability rules for the football team. Friendly, [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 22:40, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

On the decision on the questioning if that article is to be deleted, it is uncertain. I think it will not be restored until it has a very few information, the only way to do it for now is redirect the article to the Achaia Football Guild Union along with all the teams formerly edited (e.g. Sageika). In that case, the talking cannot go on. That article on that Wikipedia has been removed and when it is removed for not, instead of deleting, redirect Olympiakos Kato Achaia to the Achaia Football Guild Union and delink Olympiakos Kato Achaia. We know the team is not in the national division and does not have much fame since its population is over 5,000. It will not be restored when some notable information is added later. [[User:Pumpie|Pumpie]] ([[User talk:Pumpie|talk]]) 01:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

== WPGR ==

Um, why? Sure it's a fictionalized version, but it is the same subject.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] ([[User talk:Marhawkman|talk]]) 05:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:Since I did a lot of removing the last days I am not sure to which one you are referring to, but let me give the general idea. An editor, now banned, added tenths of articles with short relation to Greece in the project (along with 2 other projects). WPGR is dealing with articles that have direct relation to Greece and not indirect. For example "Xena" is not even part of the Greek mythology! Some films using characters called "Hercules" etc but are not really related to the Greek history or mythology can be handled better from other projects, but not from WPGR. The same stands for the fictional Marvel/DC characters with the Greek god names. The project is not interesting in these articles. Friendly, [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] 10:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, sorry, it was "List of characters in Hercules and Xena". It's mostly a catalogue of mythological figures shown in those TV shows.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] ([[User talk:Marhawkman|talk]]) 10:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Just take a look in [[User_talk:Dimadick#About your Wikiproject tagging again]]. Many editors disagreed with this mass tagging. I am not working on the Greek Mythology project so I am not sure, but since I am no the WPGR for some time, I am quite definite that these articles are outside of the scope of the project. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] 10:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

:::I don't really have strong feelings either way. i was more curious why it was done than upset about it.--[[User:Marhawkman|Marhawkman]] ([[User talk:Marhawkman|talk]]) 10:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

== ''Coronation Street'' durations ==

Firstly, I did not know that you were behind Yobot, so this is not me being biased because of the ongoing debates about [[WP:WPEE]] related things.

I just wanted to say, the duration fields that you are removing from infoboxes are there because characters come and go between their first and last dates, so they are handy to see which years a character appeared in the show. Was it discussed anywhere before you decided to remove them all? If not, please raise the issue at [[WT:WPEE]] before doing this to any ''EastEnders'' articles, as I for one will object to this, and would like to have my say before you make the decision to do this to any ''EastEnders'' articles. Thanks. -'''Trampikey'''<sup>([[User talk:Trampikey|talk]])([[Special:Contributions/Trampikey|contribs]])</sup> 15:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

== Absuridties abound ==

I really don't care what that article says. Fact remains the character in question "did" die on the show, saying otherwise defies all logic. The character died of a heart attack. That's an undesputable fact. [[User:Sardonicone|Sardonicone]] ([[User talk:Sardonicone|talk]]) 14:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I read it, and no where does it say "characters..are not born or die" of course they do. Again, you're interpretation is not an aboslute one, and thinking as such is absurd [[User:Sardonicone|Sardonicone]] ([[User talk:Sardonicone|talk]]) 19:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

== Charmed Pages ==

Hi there, I was just wondering if you could point me in the direction of the discussion to remove the "Status" line from the Charmed pages, as I pretty much don't agree with removing it. Thanks!
[[User:Tavy08|Tavy08]] ([[User talk:Tavy08|talk]]) 18:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. From my point of view, infoboxes are supposed to give a short description of the character for readers who want to take a general idea of the character's profile. This should apply for users watching previous episodes for the first time as well.
Check talk the [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Lost/Archive_3#Status|discussion for the Lost infobox]] and mainly the [[Talk:List_of_characters_in_Heroes/Archive_7#Active/Deceased and Age columns|discussion for Heroes infobox]]. There were more discussion, not caused by me, but I can't find them right now. I remember, that for some time, some Lost fans were using "Location" in order to describe "status" after the latter's deletion :)

See that conditions such "alive", "dead" depend on the episode you watch and when writing about [[WP:FICTION|fiction]] there is not "current status". Check discussions about the use of the term "former". Moreover, other conditions like "imprisoned", "wounded", etc. are a perfect area for [[WP:CRYSTALBALL|speculations]].

Lastly, if you search all the character's infoboxes, i don't think that you can find any other reporting the "status" anymore. Check recent discussion in [[Template_talk:Coronation_Street_character#.22Status.22]].

Friendly, [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis#top|talk]]) 18:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I agree and disagree but I understand your explanation, so let's leave it as is.
Thanks for the speedy reply, I was a little worried you were just randomly removing all the "Status" lines for no reason since I couldn't find any discussions on it.

Thanks once again. [[User:Tavy08|Tavy08]] ([[User talk:Tavy08|talk]]) 18:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem. It would be much better if I had started a discussion in template's talk page first but I checked and the talk page was blank. I am trying to improve articles about fictional characters by adding link to [[fictional character]], replacing History/Biography with "Character's background" according to [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)]] and removed status from templates. In many cases I am proposing merge to more general templates like {{tl|Infobox character}} and {{tl|Infobox soap character}}. It seems that the Infobox Charm character can't be merged. Have a nice day! -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis|talk]]) 19:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== TfD Discussion on [[Template:U.S. State Senate Majority Leaders]] ==

In response to my nomination of [[Template:U.S. State Senate Majority Leaders]] for deletion and your related comments, [[User:Jack Cox]] has corrected the template so that it longer duplicates [[Template:U.S. State Treasurers]]. I have left comments on both the aforemention TfD discussion page and his UserPage indicating that I no longer support deleting the template. --[[User:TommyBoy|TommyBoy]] ([[User talk:TommyBoy|talk]]) 04:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

== '24' redirects ==

Hi, I'm just curious as to why you've removed the information from some ''24'' character pages (such as [[Renee Walker]] and [[Jonas Hodges]] for example) -- they were already redirects before you edited the page. The idea was that editors would be able to update/maintain the character pages and add references etc as news became public but still keep those pages as redirects since the upcoming season hasn't yet aired. Thought that was a smart idea, but if we broke some rules or whatever I'd like to know about it. Thanks! [[User:SeanMooney|SeanMooney]] ([[User talk:SeanMooney|talk]]) 10:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

==Mandy Dingle==
I don't intend to take this any further, but I find your actions very disappointing. Instead of actually working to keep the info, but making a potted biography with infobox etc on a past characters page, you've just removed the whole article - thus losing all the information. It always seems to be ''Emmerdale'' and ''Coronation Street'' characters this happens to, never ''EastEnders'', despite many of them being purley in-universe.--[[User:UpDown|UpDown]] ([[User talk:UpDown|talk]]) 14:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:The notability tag put by someone a year ago (and none removed) says, if notability cannot be established, the article should be deleted, merged or redirected. Since prod was rejected, I think converting to a redirect to a list, reserving the article's history, is the best solution until someone presents an improved version of the article with references or something like that. I encourage you to write an article with short summaries about past characters of the show. All the information is in article's history. In Coronation Streets this helps me copy the whole content there. I am not an expert in writing summaries and certainly not have the time to do it. Friendly, -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis#top|talk]]) 14:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

This is a good way to avoid notability problems think: [[List of past recurring and minor Coronation Street characters]]. If you start it I can help by adding information there. -- [[User:Magioladitis|Magioladitis]] ([[User talk:Magioladitis#top|talk]]) 14:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== [[List of past Coronation Street characters (1990-1999)]] ==

Hi, sorry, but I had to revert back to a version of this article before you made changes with your bot. The vandal ip that continuously alters dates had been tampering with it and it was simpler just to revert to a version before. Will you be able to do the Bot changes again? --<font face="Vivaldi">[[User:Gungadin|'''<font color="#DC143C">GunGagdin</font>''']][[User talk:Gungadin|<sup>Moan</sup>]]</font> 18:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks, the ip has been blocked, but only for a week. Annoying that they dont just do it indefinitely, he's only here to vandalise! <font face="Vivaldi">[[User:Gungadin|'''<font color="#DC143C">GunGagdin</font>''']][[User talk:Gungadin|<sup>Moan</sup>]]</font> 19:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Delinking dates ==

Hi,

I just saw your feature request at AWB. It will be interesting to see the response. In the meantime, you can run the monobook script for yourself. Just go to [[User:Magioladitis/monobook.js]] and, at the bottom, add:
importScript('User:Lightmouse/monobook.js/script.js');
then save the page. Then clear your cache according to the instructions. That is all. When you next edit a page, look in the 'toolbox' at the bottom left below 'What links here'. You will see 'Delink dates to dmy' and 'Delink dates to mdy' plus some other handy options. Try it and let me know how you get on. [[User:Lightmouse|Lightmouse]] ([[User talk:Lightmouse|talk]]) 11:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Coronation Street ==

The Coronation Street template i think should be used for all the characters, including past characters, after all, they're still ''Coronation Street'' characters! [[User:Cedunited|Ced]] 9:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I can't seem to get colour on the profile of Luigi on [[List of past recurring and minor Coronation Street characters]], why? [[User:Cedunited|Ced]] 10:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry. What was wrong was that the color i used was like this:#FOE68C rather than like this: #F0E68C, with a O instead of a zero, i must have realised and changed it before you looked, that's why you saw it right on your screen. [[User:Cedunited|Ced]] 11:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree, actually, theres not really any point in the Past recurring and minor article, many of the characters set on the others were minor anyway, although maybe before doing this nominate it for deletion or bring it up on the WikiProject. [[User:Cedunited|Ced]] 12:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Heroes characters. ==

You sent a message to me about references needed from NBC for list of Heroes characters. But in the page itself, only a few of the characters actually have references to them. Noah Gray-Cabey appeared in season 3 episode 2, therefore he recurred in this season. Please don't revert pages back to the way you like them just because you have a problem with the truth. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/60.234.212.81|60.234.212.81]] ([[User talk:60.234.212.81|talk]]) 01:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==merging==
I am glad to see you placed merge tags in the proper way, rather than follow the bad advice you were given by TTN, to merge without discussion. It's doing just that which got him blocked before, and I'm surprised he didn't remember. '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 03:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

==Sockpuppet Max Mux==

In theory he is guilty of committing Sockpuppetry, but please don't report him, hes still new to wikipedia and he forgets to log in a lot. I've told him this many of times, but he forgets. Could you just remind him to log in as well, that would be most helpful. Regards [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 12:20, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

:Hmmm well I'll give him one last warning over everything and if he violates anything else again, we'll have to report him. Regards [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 12:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

::Yes he does need to be fully taught wikipedia's polices. Also he is not that good with English, he is German. He is editing from a University in Germnay (ive forgotten which one), but i found this out by checking is IP address. Regards [[User:Ijanderson977|Ijanderson]] ([[User talk:Ijanderson977|talk]]) 12:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm very careful now to log me in every time. [[User:Max Mux|Max Mux]] ([[User talk:Max Mux|talk]]) 18:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

==[[User:Infoart]]==

I took a look at the two articles by [[User:Infoart|Infoart]] which you prod'd, have added some refs and think they pass the bar. [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts]] has done a lot of work with this editor, reviewing over 150 of his articles, deleting some and cutting material that didn't meet wiki policies. You might like to post on the project talk page to get a review of anything that seems questionable to ascertain whether refs exist or deletion is the way forward. If you do nom anything for AfD, please list at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts]]. If you're not happy still with the two articles, let me know and I'll add to them, but they are not top of my priority list. '''''[[User:Tyrenius|<font color="#880088">Ty</font>]]''''' 00:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for converting the URLs to refs. '''''[[User:Tyrenius|<font color="#880088">Ty</font>]]''''' 02:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Yobot ==

What's the deal with this edit? [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Natalia_Boa_Vista&diff=242491779&oldid=242465714] It's most certainly supported in the article that the character is female and has brown hair (there's a photo, even). Maybe that feature needs to be struck from the bot, this reversion was unhelpful. -- [[User:AvatarMN|AvatarMN]] ([[User talk:AvatarMN|talk]]) 06:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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Archive:
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Archive 1 August 2006-June 2008

Jericho characters

I trimmed the first two. I know nothing of the series, so you may want to make sure that I didn't screw anything up badly before I bother to continue. TTN (talk) 12:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

hello, i was not soapboxing, merely correcting an error in nomenclature, the jennings and rall site, though it is a property name of the jericho concept, was made exclusively for the tom tooman game. please note this. thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.73.162 (talk) 14:19, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Removing correct tags.

Ah, sorry about that. It appeared he had gone and tagged every Darkstalkers article himself while setting the date added tags to April instead of May to try and force deletion/merging without the proper amount of time. Thanks for catching things and fixing them. Nezu Chiza (talk) 20:46, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Brookside template

I figured every other British soap opera template (The ones still on TV) has this setup and found it best to follow suit. I know it seems lazy but I was going for some Uniformity as not to clutter to up the articles with family fields. Conquistdor2k6. 12 May 2008 09:53 (UTC)

adminship

Hey. I've seen your recent work and was thinking that you might be ready for another go at adminship at WP:RFA. Only thing I ask before I have no problems with nomming you is how your CSD work since your last candidacy has improved. Let me know if you think you're up for it. Wizardman 02:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Alright. I should have the template and everything up in a few days. Until then, just take the time to prepare answers to the first three questions, and familiarize yourself with the process (since you've had an RfA before this should be no problem. so long as we know you've improved on CSD stuff you're fine) Wizardman 00:55, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
I got one more question before I feel ready to transclude. Any examples of some nice articles you've written that I can see? That seems to be a very common reason to oppose these days and I couldn't find much upon looking myself. Wizardman 03:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Article writing seems good. However... I think the recent involvement in the fiction realm (one of the most divisive areas right now) as well as no glaring need for the tools make me feel that this next RfA might not pass at this time, yet. So I made the nomination and everything, but I'm going to hold off on it for now. Participate in WP:AFD and C:CSD and the like some more, and I may feel more comfortable with a nomination in a few weeks. Wizardman 03:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Just so you know, I have restored the Edie Britt page to its former glory.

Just so you know, I have restored the Edie Britt page to its former glory. AdamDeanHall (talk) 13:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Stop removing information from the Edie Britt page. Just leave it as it is, OK?!! AdamDeanHall (talk) 21:35, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Could you please tell me why you changed "was" to "is" on the Edie Britt page? I thought the women of Wisteria Lane had seen the last of her in the episode Mother Said. AdamDeanHall (talk) 22:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


Nikodim Tsarknias

What are you talking about? I simply changed "Slavic Macedonian" to "Ethnic Macedonian." We don't identify as Slavic Macedonian, I respect core-politics, but politics have nothing to do with self-determination. Mactruth (talk) 00:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Minorities in Greece

The picture it was compared to was deleted, showing only the "Macedonian Slavs as Bulgarian" picture. I thought it to be Bulgarian POV. Mactruth (talk) 00:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Both maps are now present. Mactruth (talk) 01:06, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Magioladitis, our ethnicity is constantly being denied, many trying to show we are not "Ethnic Macedonian" by stating we are "Bulgarian" or "Greek" or give us a new name like "Skopjan" or "Slav-Macedonian." You just don't understand what its like for peoples of the same religion and region to act that way.

I included "Officially recognized by Greece as Slav-Macedonian" but he does not state that, he and everyone else states (ethnic) Macedonian. Mactruth (talk) 01:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Prison Break

Well, it's gonna be tough, but why are you sending it to me personally? I'm not a merger. I don't do big stuff on Wikipedia. Just tell me that merging those episodes takes within an hour, then I'm willing to do it. But I'm not if it takes more time. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 00:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC) By the way I wasn't saying that I'm willing to do it, I was giving a suggestion. I do have plans in my live. I'm not sure if I can merge them all, let me think about it. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 00:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

DH

Could you not have kept some babes? It was nice. or like, fixed the re-directs? o)

--Cokeandpoprocks (talk) 19:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Accursed

By all means mark articles such as 'Certain accursed ones of no significance' with "re dirty po" but as the incomprehensible message above hints, you must fix the redirects first. In this case, this edit and another to a user talk page were needed. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I was planning to fix the redirect. I had the window open when the phone rang. :)
I always open a new window with the whatlinksto in the redirect I have nominated for speedy deletion and I wait until it's deleted, then I fix the redirects. Thanks. Friendly, Magioladitis (talk) 20:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I have a question because you are the most expert in redirects I know. About the Redirects from foreign languages. Did we end up in something at the end? I think we did and we could proceed and form it as Wikipedia's policy. Am I wrong? -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:18, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Back in February, I boldly closed the discussion and tagged the conclusion as an essay. No one has reverted me yet so I'm assuming people are comfortable with that decision. As an essay, you can start using it to guide decisions (and I have occasionally). If you think it should be promoted past mere essay status, I'd recommend 1) a different title that pulls it out of the sub-page format, 2) a user-friendly shortcut and 3) some advertising. Or we can leave it as is. I'm comfortable either way.

Thanks for reminding me of the page. By the way, I also expanded the note about historical placenames. Revert it if you disagree. Rossami (talk) 16:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree with the historic names and I think you did a wonderful job with that. Your idea to start a more centralised discussion was brilliant. I am not familiar in working with guidelines and essays, so I have to read a bit about it. The whole thing came into my mind after a discussion in here Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 May 22. We certainly need to promote this essay a bit and we need an easy-to-remember shortcut. I'll try to think of something but I am not very good in these things. Friendly, Magioladitis (talk) 17:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Alexander Mahone

I was mainly concerned with vandalism. I guess if I would have checked up on you, my concerns would have been eased. I was just working on categorizing and making it more clear and concise. Thank you for clearing that up. Bmwilliams08 (talk) 00:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

BIRTH-DEATH-SORT vs Lifetime

I hadn't noticed this was a redirect -- I will start using Lifetime instead. Thanks for pointing out the TfD! -- KathrynLybarger (talk) 14:22, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you help?

Hi. I noticed that my IP address has been used to vandalise an article a few weeks ago (article titled "Camel") on the 17th of May and I saw you were the user who sent me the messages pertaining to this issue. There was a person who had access to our internet while he stayed at our house for short period of time, and I would just like to know how did he vandalise the article? What was the vandalism concerning on the article "Camel"?

I apologise that my IP was recorded as vandalising a page and thank you deleting it.

Any further information about this case you be appreciated, as I'm worried about what the person would have done elsewhere on wikipedia, and would just like to know the details or how I can find out what text was edited during the vandalism.

Thank you, from Ethan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.92.55 (talk) 06:11, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

D. N. Pritt

We would seem to be fighting over contradictory WP policy here. In using the short form I followed the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people) instruction to use "The name that is most generally recognisable". D. N. Pritt is the most usual form of address both in 'dead tree' works and on the web, despite what has been WP practice. In the election results pages the official form 'Denis Nowell Pritt' is obviously appropriate, hence the piping. Philip Cross (talk) 20:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Contested prod for Melissa Hurst

Hi. Are you contesting the prod of Melissa Hurst? -- Magioladitis 08:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

No, 79.68.250.15 (talk) already contested the deletion. --Closedmouth (talk) 08:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

This was just a vandalism. Single edit, no edit summary, no reason in talk page. -- Magioladitis 08:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

From WP:PROD: "Contested deletions: If anyone, including the article's creator, removes a {{prod}} tag from an article for any reason, do not put it back, except when the removal is clearly not an objection to deletion (such as blanking the entire article). If the edit is not obviously vandalism, do not restore tag, even if the tag was apparently removed in bad faith. If you still believe that the article needs to be deleted, list it on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion." --Closedmouth (talk) 13:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Keyword: "for any reason". The prod was removed for "no reason". Moreover, single edit by this account shows "vandalism" and I reverted as "vandalism". Friendly, Magioladitis 13:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

No, it was removed because the user didn't think the article should be deleted. The whole point of the proposed deletion system is that it's used for uncontroversial deletions that nobody would object to, so that AFD doesn't get bogged down with articles that don't really need to be discussed; if anyone removes the prod notice, it means the deletion isn't uncontroversial. Although it's encouraged for people to explain why they are contesting the prod, it's not compulsory, and it doesn't constitute vandalism if they don't --Closedmouth (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


Hi again. I sent it for AfD but because you are contesting the prod for a reason. (I take it as "I believe at least one editor disagrees with deletion") Why do you believe that the user just disagrees and it wasn't a vandalism? Since there is no edit summary we can't conclude that. I think it was a vandalism but I didn't give it a warning because I keep 5% of uncertainty. A reason would be "I don't' think so" or "I like this article" but no summary and no other edits in general? Let's see if this user will at least give a reason for keeping it in the Afd page. I'll leave him message in his talk page. Friendly,- Magioladitis 13:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I just added a warning to the user's talk page hoping from his participation in the Afd discussion. -- Magioladitis 13:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Why don't I think it was vandalism? Because I'm assuming good faith. The lack of edit summary means I have no evidence for or against it being vandalism, so I assume it wasn't, and that the user genuinely wanted the article to be kept. And again, I'm not contesting the prod, the user who first removed the tag is. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this article, would it be OK for me to move it now to the List of past minor and recurring characters from Hollyoaks as I proposed in the AfD, or should I wait for the outcome of said AfD? ~~ [Jam][talk] 18:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I've replied on my talk page. ~~ [Jam][talk] 19:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

List of original characters

Not really bad, it means the same. Ultra! 15:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that.

I just can't help myself when I randomly come across Vinozhito's article. ;)3rdAlcove (talk) 23:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Mammomax

When did a decision to have Mammomax redirected to the List of Brotherhood of Mutants members page occur? Rtkat3 (talk) 8:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

It seems that the NON-NOTABLE Marcus Walton has returned. It should be permanently deleted, not redirected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.69.107.37 (talk) 22:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Katherine Mayfair to be promoted

Did you check the discussion for the template? I believe that Katherine should be added. Since she has become one of them, why not add her as well. She is friends with them at the finale, she played poker with them five years on. She's even a regular cast member named right after the four main housewives. Don't you think this is enough evidence to be in the main cast?124.188.180.129 (talk) 01:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

H&A Template

I usually remove these once a character's left the show ala the other shows. Just out of curiosity; Why have you put them back in? -- Conq 17:36 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much all the articles of past characters. --Conq 17:45 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The H&A Navibox basically. It's on a lot of pages of characters who have long since left. -- Conq 17:45 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Talk:Emma Taylor

Sorry about that -- I didn't notice that I had followed a redirect. You're right; I deleted per your original request. — xDanielx T/C\R 23:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk pages tagged for deletion

Hi there; you have recently tagged a large number of blank talk pages for deletion. Please note that a blank talk page does not qualify for speedy deletion - please stop doing this. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 11:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok, let me put it this way. If you do not stop tagging empty talk pages for speedy deletion you will become a possible candidate for blocking. I say again, please stop. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 11:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there; clearly we have a different approach to empty talk pages. Please talk to me. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 11:41, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. I hope you didn't give me waring while I was tagging because I just noticed them all. Let's discuss it. First of all: Should redirects have project banners? I think not. They is nothing there to improve. Secondly, since these talk pages have nothing should be deleted? My answer is yes. What is your opinion? Friendly, Magioladitis (talk) 12:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there; simple answer - an empty article talk page should not be deleted. Please see WP:CSD. Many articles do not have comments in their talk pages, and they just sit and wait for comments. Please leave them alone. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 12:18, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Db-blanktalk reads: "It is a blank talk page with no substantial edit history". The talk pages I nonimated have only a banner addition. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

I say again: blank article talk pages are not subject to deletion. Please let us not argue over this point: I have reverted already most if not all of your speedy tags. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 12:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I am afraid I do disagree. A blank article talkpage is not, repeat not subject to deletion. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 12:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You have contested several of my decisions, which you have every right to do. Please go to WP:DRV if you feel that you have been seriously disadvantaged.--Anthony.bradbury"talk" 12:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Db-blanktalk refers only to talk pages where no corresponding article exists. Are you arguing that redirects do not count as articles? If so, make that clear. Paul B (talk) 12:55, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
No, the wording on the template is irrelevant. It is the wording of the criteria that matter. Please read the actual Criteria for speedy deletion [1] Paul B (talk) 13:07, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I can't make any sense of what you are saying now. You seem to be being argumentative for the sake of it. The talk page point is clearly 8. My link was set up for readability, so the 8 came in mid screen. You even quoted it yourself so why are you now denying it? Paul B (talk) 13:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Please note that I had no intention of artginmg with you. I was asking for clarification of whetrher or not you were suggesting that redirects do not count as articles. I have not found discussion with you productive. Paul B (talk) 14:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Coronation Street characters

Hey, just a friendly heads up - I've noticed a couple of times recently you've merged long gone CS characters into the List of recurring and minor Coronation Street characters article. Someone actually created List of past recurring and minor Coronation Street characters a few weeks ago, which would probably be a better receptacle in future :) Frickative 08:51, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

afd

i you feel like, please feel free to comment on the this afd. --Soman (talk) 16:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

cleanup tags in Dbabbitt's sandbox

Hi there!

I am currently working hard on cleaning up articles tagged for copy edit, and found User:Dbabbitt/Sandbox tagged since July 2008. I noticed that you recently changed all the tags on that page from February to July 2008 in this edit. Was there a reason for this, and is there a reason why the long list of tags should not be deleted?

Thanks.

-Samuel Tan 13:51, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply :) Anyway I doubt the category of articles needing copy edit will get whittled down so much that the tags in his sandbox will need to be deleted heh. Thanks :) -Samuel Tan 16:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Db-blanktalk

Template:Db-blanktalk has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. -- Ned Scott 06:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Yobot added category to Talk:Alma Wheeler Smith

Yobot (talk · contribs) added the category [[Category:Place of birth missing (living people)|Smith, Alma Wheeler]] to Talk:Alma Wheeler Smith. I removed the category from the talk page and added it to the article page, Alma Wheeler Smith. I hope this is okay. --Eastmain (talk) 02:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

  • Sorry, my mistake. I see that the [[Category:Place of birth missing (living people)]] is intended for talk pages, not article pages. I restored the category to Talk:Alma Wheeler Smith --Eastmain (talk) 02:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Indonesian articles

There was tagging about 12 hours go which claimed no birth date when there were - any problem with the bt? SatuSuro 09:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Heheheh - thats fine - there are some eccentric styles not usually WP MOS in some of the arts - thats probably the problem - I will get around to checking later - my watch list is too big - thanks for replying ! SatuSuro 00:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Removal of cat

Hi, can you tell me why you made this edit? It wasn't currect, and I hope you are not doing that to other articles as well. Badagnani (talk) 20:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you seem to have done the same in this edit. Can you please stop and reverse these mistaken edits? Badagnani (talk) 20:14, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, would you please address this issue rather than continuing with your bot run? Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 20:16, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you've just done it twice more, rather than address this problem here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Manuel_Vega&diff=prev&oldid=227270453

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ramon_Te_Wake&diff=prev&oldid=227270495

Would you please stop and address this issue, and reverse your mistaken edits? Many thanks for this, Badagnani (talk) 20:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello, would you please address this issue instead of continuing with your bot run? You have just removed several "Date of birth missing" categories, that were correct. In those cases, the date of birth was indeed unknown (we had only the year). The "Date of birth missing" cat (which is different from a "Year of birth missing" cat) should remain. Badagnani (talk) 20:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

You also removed the cat from articles where the individual's year of birth and date of birth were missing, and the lead said, "born ca. 1970." That was wrong and please do not do it. You also removed the category "Date of birth missing" from individuals who unquestionably are public figures, such as John Yoo. That was equally wrong. In both cases, it's clear that the automated manner of doing this allowed you to make incorrect removals. Please now go back and undo the mistaken edits you made. Badagnani (talk) 20:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Please stop

Please stop. You just removed the "Date of birth missing" category from an article of someone whose date of birth is missing. [2]. Please stop. Badagnani (talk) 20:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Please stop. You are not helping by simply removing a cat, and not replacing it with a proper cat, in the proper place. It is destructive and I ask you to please stop. Badagnani (talk) 20:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

I second Badagnani's request. The program that you are running is leaving misinformation on many pages. Look at this page Murray Melvin. We know what year he was born. We don't know what date he was born. These categories are for people to be able to tell what information is missing and the year of birth is NOT missing for this person. You probably need to go back and reverse all that this bot has done. Your help in this will be appreciated. MarnetteD | Talk 20:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Just because date of birth can go on to talk pages (and this wasn't always the case) doesn't meant that year of birth should go on a page where the year of birth already exists. Also just because a task is approved doesn't mean that it is doing the correct your bot was leaving incorrect information on pages. You might want to make yourself aware of what happened to betacommandbot whose tasks were also "approved". You did not think through all of the ramifications of this program that you ran. That kind of thing happens. As long as you fix the mistakes then you can learn from this and move on. Happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 21:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
You are still putting the year of birth missing category on pages where the year of birth is NOT missing. See Peter Howell (actor) and the above mentioned Murray Melsin for examples. Please stop this. MarnetteD | Talk 21:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Yobot replaced the "Date of birth missing" with "Year of birth missing" in the article page. The year of birth is not missing, the date of birth is. I removed "Year of birth missing" and added "Date of birth missing" to the talk page which is where it belongs. I think the bot may be making other similar errors. Please look into this. Regards, Leofric1 (talk) 20:54, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Date of birth missing (2nd warning)

I do not recall doing this. Please remind me. --I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 21:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Date of birth missing on talk page

Thanks for letting me know - I hadn't seen anything to the effect that this policy had changed. When creating the Art Drysdale page I simply looked for all existing categories and put the article into all that applied. My recent edit was due to an edit (by a Bot, I think) which seems to be replacing "Date of Birth Missing" with "Year of Birth Missing," which I instinctively saw as wrong given that the year is right there in the article. Given that there are probably hundreds if not thousands of biography articles done in a similar way, I imagine there must now several hours of editing that needs to be done to fix this. Wencer (talk) 15:23, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Badagnani

A user you have recent interaction with is the subject of an ANI discussion here. Please feel free to comment. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 19:34, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Date of birth missing (living people)

Thanks for the correction. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters(Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP!) 20:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests

In response to your question (permanent link), see Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests. --Teratornis (talk) 04:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


A few 'bad' tags

I came across a few of Yobot's tags today that didn't look kosher. Letting you know in case it turns out to be a symptom of a problem.

  • Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon - the 'living' parameter in the WPBIO tag was changed to 'no', but this article is about multiple people. I corrected it.
  • Northern Illinois University shooting - not sure why this got tagged with WPBIO at all, but it's about multiple people, many of whom are still living, so the living=no parameter was incorrect. I corrected the parameter, but didn't remove the tag.
  • 2008 stabbings at Beijing Drum Tower - not sure why this was tagged WPBIO either, but living=no was inappropriate as several named victims are still alive. Someone else removed the tag entirely.
I replied. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Olympiakos Kato Achaia

How much information is in that article, does that article have the full information? Will it be kept or to be removed? What happened to that article in the Greek version? Pumpie (talk) 22:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

1st remark: This team doesn't play in any national division. It plays in the third (the last) division of Achaia, a local division.

2nd remark: After your comment I found that the article exists in el:Α.Π.Σ. Ολυμπιακός Πατρών, so it's not true that it was deleted (still the link indicated doesn't exist). 3rd remark: If you think we have to keep the article, please remove the prod. I still have the impression that the team is not notable enough but I am not sure about the notability rules for the football team. Friendly, Magioladitis (talk) 22:40, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

On the decision on the questioning if that article is to be deleted, it is uncertain. I think it will not be restored until it has a very few information, the only way to do it for now is redirect the article to the Achaia Football Guild Union along with all the teams formerly edited (e.g. Sageika). In that case, the talking cannot go on. That article on that Wikipedia has been removed and when it is removed for not, instead of deleting, redirect Olympiakos Kato Achaia to the Achaia Football Guild Union and delink Olympiakos Kato Achaia. We know the team is not in the national division and does not have much fame since its population is over 5,000. It will not be restored when some notable information is added later. Pumpie (talk) 01:58, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

WPGR

Um, why? Sure it's a fictionalized version, but it is the same subject.--Marhawkman (talk) 05:34, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Since I did a lot of removing the last days I am not sure to which one you are referring to, but let me give the general idea. An editor, now banned, added tenths of articles with short relation to Greece in the project (along with 2 other projects). WPGR is dealing with articles that have direct relation to Greece and not indirect. For example "Xena" is not even part of the Greek mythology! Some films using characters called "Hercules" etc but are not really related to the Greek history or mythology can be handled better from other projects, but not from WPGR. The same stands for the fictional Marvel/DC characters with the Greek god names. The project is not interesting in these articles. Friendly, Magioladitis 10:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Ah, sorry, it was "List of characters in Hercules and Xena". It's mostly a catalogue of mythological figures shown in those TV shows.--Marhawkman (talk) 10:31, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Just take a look in User_talk:Dimadick#About your Wikiproject tagging again. Many editors disagreed with this mass tagging. I am not working on the Greek Mythology project so I am not sure, but since I am no the WPGR for some time, I am quite definite that these articles are outside of the scope of the project. -- Magioladitis 10:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't really have strong feelings either way. i was more curious why it was done than upset about it.--Marhawkman (talk) 10:45, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Coronation Street durations

Firstly, I did not know that you were behind Yobot, so this is not me being biased because of the ongoing debates about WP:WPEE related things.

I just wanted to say, the duration fields that you are removing from infoboxes are there because characters come and go between their first and last dates, so they are handy to see which years a character appeared in the show. Was it discussed anywhere before you decided to remove them all? If not, please raise the issue at WT:WPEE before doing this to any EastEnders articles, as I for one will object to this, and would like to have my say before you make the decision to do this to any EastEnders articles. Thanks. -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 15:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Absuridties abound

I really don't care what that article says. Fact remains the character in question "did" die on the show, saying otherwise defies all logic. The character died of a heart attack. That's an undesputable fact. Sardonicone (talk) 14:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

I read it, and no where does it say "characters..are not born or die" of course they do. Again, you're interpretation is not an aboslute one, and thinking as such is absurd Sardonicone (talk) 19:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Charmed Pages

Hi there, I was just wondering if you could point me in the direction of the discussion to remove the "Status" line from the Charmed pages, as I pretty much don't agree with removing it. Thanks! Tavy08 (talk) 18:45, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. From my point of view, infoboxes are supposed to give a short description of the character for readers who want to take a general idea of the character's profile. This should apply for users watching previous episodes for the first time as well. Check talk the discussion for the Lost infobox and mainly the discussion for Heroes infobox. There were more discussion, not caused by me, but I can't find them right now. I remember, that for some time, some Lost fans were using "Location" in order to describe "status" after the latter's deletion :)

See that conditions such "alive", "dead" depend on the episode you watch and when writing about fiction there is not "current status". Check discussions about the use of the term "former". Moreover, other conditions like "imprisoned", "wounded", etc. are a perfect area for speculations.

Lastly, if you search all the character's infoboxes, i don't think that you can find any other reporting the "status" anymore. Check recent discussion in Template_talk:Coronation_Street_character#.22Status.22.

Friendly, Magioladitis (talk) 18:48, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I agree and disagree but I understand your explanation, so let's leave it as is. Thanks for the speedy reply, I was a little worried you were just randomly removing all the "Status" lines for no reason since I couldn't find any discussions on it.

Thanks once again. Tavy08 (talk) 18:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem. It would be much better if I had started a discussion in template's talk page first but I checked and the talk page was blank. I am trying to improve articles about fictional characters by adding link to fictional character, replacing History/Biography with "Character's background" according to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction) and removed status from templates. In many cases I am proposing merge to more general templates like {{Infobox character}} and {{Infobox soap character}}. It seems that the Infobox Charm character can't be merged. Have a nice day! -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

In response to my nomination of Template:U.S. State Senate Majority Leaders for deletion and your related comments, User:Jack Cox has corrected the template so that it longer duplicates Template:U.S. State Treasurers. I have left comments on both the aforemention TfD discussion page and his UserPage indicating that I no longer support deleting the template. --TommyBoy (talk) 04:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

'24' redirects

Hi, I'm just curious as to why you've removed the information from some 24 character pages (such as Renee Walker and Jonas Hodges for example) -- they were already redirects before you edited the page. The idea was that editors would be able to update/maintain the character pages and add references etc as news became public but still keep those pages as redirects since the upcoming season hasn't yet aired. Thought that was a smart idea, but if we broke some rules or whatever I'd like to know about it. Thanks! SeanMooney (talk) 10:42, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Mandy Dingle

I don't intend to take this any further, but I find your actions very disappointing. Instead of actually working to keep the info, but making a potted biography with infobox etc on a past characters page, you've just removed the whole article - thus losing all the information. It always seems to be Emmerdale and Coronation Street characters this happens to, never EastEnders, despite many of them being purley in-universe.--UpDown (talk) 14:17, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

The notability tag put by someone a year ago (and none removed) says, if notability cannot be established, the article should be deleted, merged or redirected. Since prod was rejected, I think converting to a redirect to a list, reserving the article's history, is the best solution until someone presents an improved version of the article with references or something like that. I encourage you to write an article with short summaries about past characters of the show. All the information is in article's history. In Coronation Streets this helps me copy the whole content there. I am not an expert in writing summaries and certainly not have the time to do it. Friendly, -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

This is a good way to avoid notability problems think: List of past recurring and minor Coronation Street characters. If you start it I can help by adding information there. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry, but I had to revert back to a version of this article before you made changes with your bot. The vandal ip that continuously alters dates had been tampering with it and it was simpler just to revert to a version before. Will you be able to do the Bot changes again? --GunGagdinMoan 18:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, the ip has been blocked, but only for a week. Annoying that they dont just do it indefinitely, he's only here to vandalise! GunGagdinMoan 19:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Delinking dates

Hi,

I just saw your feature request at AWB. It will be interesting to see the response. In the meantime, you can run the monobook script for yourself. Just go to User:Magioladitis/monobook.js and, at the bottom, add:

importScript('User:Lightmouse/monobook.js/script.js');

then save the page. Then clear your cache according to the instructions. That is all. When you next edit a page, look in the 'toolbox' at the bottom left below 'What links here'. You will see 'Delink dates to dmy' and 'Delink dates to mdy' plus some other handy options. Try it and let me know how you get on. Lightmouse (talk) 11:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Coronation Street

The Coronation Street template i think should be used for all the characters, including past characters, after all, they're still Coronation Street characters! Ced 9:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I can't seem to get colour on the profile of Luigi on List of past recurring and minor Coronation Street characters, why? Ced 10:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry. What was wrong was that the color i used was like this:#FOE68C rather than like this: #F0E68C, with a O instead of a zero, i must have realised and changed it before you looked, that's why you saw it right on your screen. Ced 11:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree, actually, theres not really any point in the Past recurring and minor article, many of the characters set on the others were minor anyway, although maybe before doing this nominate it for deletion or bring it up on the WikiProject. Ced 12:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Heroes characters.

You sent a message to me about references needed from NBC for list of Heroes characters. But in the page itself, only a few of the characters actually have references to them. Noah Gray-Cabey appeared in season 3 episode 2, therefore he recurred in this season. Please don't revert pages back to the way you like them just because you have a problem with the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.212.81 (talk) 01:25, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

merging

I am glad to see you placed merge tags in the proper way, rather than follow the bad advice you were given by TTN, to merge without discussion. It's doing just that which got him blocked before, and I'm surprised he didn't remember. DGG (talk) 03:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet Max Mux

In theory he is guilty of committing Sockpuppetry, but please don't report him, hes still new to wikipedia and he forgets to log in a lot. I've told him this many of times, but he forgets. Could you just remind him to log in as well, that would be most helpful. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 12:20, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm well I'll give him one last warning over everything and if he violates anything else again, we'll have to report him. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 12:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes he does need to be fully taught wikipedia's polices. Also he is not that good with English, he is German. He is editing from a University in Germnay (ive forgotten which one), but i found this out by checking is IP address. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 12:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm very careful now to log me in every time. Max Mux (talk) 18:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

I took a look at the two articles by Infoart which you prod'd, have added some refs and think they pass the bar. Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts has done a lot of work with this editor, reviewing over 150 of his articles, deleting some and cutting material that didn't meet wiki policies. You might like to post on the project talk page to get a review of anything that seems questionable to ascertain whether refs exist or deletion is the way forward. If you do nom anything for AfD, please list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Visual arts. If you're not happy still with the two articles, let me know and I'll add to them, but they are not top of my priority list. Ty 00:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for converting the URLs to refs. Ty 02:03, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Yobot

What's the deal with this edit? [3] It's most certainly supported in the article that the character is female and has brown hair (there's a photo, even). Maybe that feature needs to be struck from the bot, this reversion was unhelpful. -- AvatarMN (talk) 06:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)