Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Fish Cleaning Station

Fish Cleaning Station

Original

Not an edit of the first image,but original image taken before the nominated one

Reason

Fascinating, underwater image taken in a wild and showing a really interesting, rarely photographed behavior. The image is very educational.

Proposed caption

A Dragon Wrasse, Novaculichthys taeniourus being cleaned by Rainbow Cleaner Wrasses, Labroides phthirophagus on a reef in Kona, Hawaii.You could see the both cleaners inside the gill of the dragon Wrasse.

Articles this image appears in

cleaning station,Wrasse

Creator

Mbz1

• Support as nominator Mbz1 02:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose. Nice shot, educational as you say. However, unfortunately - the main subject is too small, the composition is lopsided (the fish at left spoil it). Cropping probably won't help, even at this size we see a slightly fuzzy Wrasse. --Janke | Talk 06:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Please notice that in my opinion the subject of the image is not only a cleaning action, but also a cleaning station itself. I've seen a cleaning action with only one fish being cleaned, but this one was really a cleaning station with many fishes lined up to get cleaned. So, cut fishes in the left (convict tangs) and a fish behind the corals, as well as the corals themselves are part of the subject. Maybe it will be a good idea to add that image as the other version of the cleaning station?--Mbz1 13:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)Mbz1
• Support. Composition is slightly off, but quality is good, especially given the shooting conditions - quality underwater shots aren't easy to get. As Janke says, the main subject is a little small in the image, but overall the value to me outweighs the concerns. Species identification of Novaculichthys taeniourus appears to be correct; a species ID on the cleaners would be good, too, I suspect Labroides dimidiatus, though they're a little fuzzy. BTW it's a great photo of Novaculichthys taeniourus as well, just a shame there's no article on it. --jjron 08:09, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I wonder if this wouldn't also be useful in cleaner fish. And also Bluestreak cleaner wrasse if that is indeed what the cleaners are. --jjron 08:49, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
    • I just found out that the cleaners are Rainbow cleaner wrasse, Labroides phthirophagus, so I'm going to change the caption.--Mbz1 13:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)Mbz1
• Weak support. It's a nice photo certainly, and I like that the two wrasse are picking the gills, a behaviour that is remarkable given how vulnerable a fish's gills are to damage. So it shows the degree of trust involved quite well. But the image isn't as sharp as it might be, and oddly having two cleaner wrasse in identical but mirrored poses makes them look much less obvious. It takes a second to understand the image. If there's a similar picture with one wrasse or the two wrasse spread out more unevenly, I think I'd prefer that image. Neale Monks 13:28, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Edit -- For what it's worth, I like image 2 rather more. Less confusing, and the host fish has an interesting expression on its face. Neale Monks 16:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose Doesn't look right. ^8thstar 16:45, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I wish I knew what does not look right and how many fish cleaning stations user ^8thstar have seen before he saw the nominated image. Maybe I should have asked user ^8thstar to be a litlle bit more specific and explain what does not look right? Well, I guess I just let go on it. The only thing I'd like to add: I do consider user Janke oppose a valid one (I disagree with it, but I understand the user concern). I consider the user ^8thstar oppose invalid one.--Mbz1 16:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)Mbz1
  • Support, I thought it was just a regular picture of a fish at first, I didn't read the nom lol ^8thstar 20:41, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
• I feel an appropriate crop of the second image would be more likely to succeed. I feel this scene is not rare enough for us to lower our standards. 82.71.48.158 17:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

• Comment A tilt would also be beneficial, I think. I already tried with the first image, but then the other fish were (of course) tilted. – sgeureka ^t•c 20:00, 21 September 2007 (UTC)