User talk:Ironholds

Please note: while I dont mind people using style elements from my talk or userpage, i DO mind them doing so without asking. Do so and i'll come down on you like a metric unit of building material.

Feel free to leave me a message here. Dont forget to sign it by adding ~~~~ on to the end! Any thankspam, linkspam or -spam is not welcome. This includes RfA thanks. Ironholds 15:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Eros Labs speedy

I removed your speedy request from Eros Labs, which I assume you got to via Eros International in NPP; I redirected the new to the old. See the G-news hits; I don't think there is any question whatsoever that it is notable, even if the entry doesn't assert. 9Nak (talk) 13:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

thankspam

Thanks to everyone who participated in my RfA, regardless of their !vote. I have withdrawn the nomination as a failure at 19 supports, 45 opposes, and 9 neutral statements. As has been written and sung, you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need — and what I need is to go back to working on our shared project. Not everyone has to be an admin; there is a role for each of us. After reflection, I feel I don't have the temperament to secure community consensus as an admin at any point, and I will not be applying again in the future — and hey, that's all right, 'cause I stay true to the philosophy that adminship is no big deal: I tried, I failed, and now I'll return to doing what I've always done. I have an extremely strong belief in the consensus process, and the consensus was clear. I will be devoting my energies to volunteering at MedCab and working up a complete series of articles on the short stories of Ernest Hemingway, among lord knows what else. Thanks again to everyone who spared the time to weigh in on this one. It was made in better faith than it probably seemed. Mr. IP 《Defender of Open Editing》 14:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Disrupting and creating DRAMAH wasn't my intention, but it looks like that's the overall verdict, so I'll just live with that. Anyway, maybe I just wasn't made to be an admin; we can't all be admins, after all. Hope to work w/ you in the future in my non-admin capacities. Cheers, Mr. IP 《Defender of Open Editing》 14:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Robert Polhill Bevan

Thanks for yours. I am glad that someone else cares as much about his work. There is plenty more information, but probably too much for an encyclopedia article. Colourman (talk) 16:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Sock case

All I would have to say is:
"you'll see..." Arbiteroftruth (talk) 19:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

How would it be ridiculous? That sock operator sticks to the book each time, and when you look at Plagues Of Truth's edits, most of them are related to Singaporean actors (in this case, Huang Wenyong) and Western Fantasy/Power Ranger edits. The only edits outside of these two edits are made in regards to Keith deligero, a page whose deletion I proposed. The sock operator also targets pages that I edit sometimes.I can read the guy like a book, Ironholds. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

He has stalked me before. His socks reverted a lot of my reverts of his edits as "revenge attacks" in the past. He also created two impostor accounts that sounds similar to my account's name. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 19:13, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I can't believe it. I just feel like we are sitting there while the Japanese carriers are steaming to Pearl Harbor. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 19:18, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, I get the point. Let's wait it out, then. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 20:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Help with userpage?

Hi there. I was wondering if you could help me spiff up my userpage? I am still quite new on Wiki, so I am just learning the ropes. Thank you for any assistance you can provide! Silverwolf85 (talk) 20:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't remember exactly where I first saw your name. It kept coming up over the past couple of days, and I think the most recent was Mr. IP's RfA attempt.

As far as the spificatation... Let me think here. I did already take one idea from you (hope you don't mind) and added a personal Notes page. Also, I would like a way to organize user boxes as I add those. It's just that I see so many pages that are very cluttered with userboxes, and I don't want mine to end up that way. :) The main thing too, is I'd like to keep it simple, both so it isn't too hard to look at, and so I can easily edit/add/delete things in the future. One aspect of your own page that I liked about was the section up top with the different area links.

I hope this gives you some sort of idea. Please let me know what I can/need to do. That way I can learn a bit too. :) And if you're not too burned out by the end of it all, I'd like to improve my sig too...

Thank you so much for the help!!!

Silverwolf85 (talk) 02:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

3:33 AM huh? You really don't have a life, do you? :) The columns I like, to put a few of the main userboxes on my front page (like CVU, LoE, and such). I'd say 6 max. Then the rest, as I collect them anyway, would be cool on a page of their own. Awards, I'm not so worried about. So for the links: Talk, Notes (already created that one), Userboxes, Sandbox. As far as the background is concerned, a blue color, in the lighter range would be nice. And I suppose an archiving system would be good, especially as time goes on.

As far as vandalism. Yeah, that one reared it's ugly head a few days ago. As you can see, the very kind administrator Gb had to put semi protection on both of my pages for a few days, which expires later today if I remember right. Let's just say I upset a would be vandal by going and reverting one of his beautiful revisions, and it just went down hill from there.

The signature. Hmmm.... Can we do just dark blue for my name and dark green for my talk link? Nice and simple I think...

And with the adoption issue... If you're willing to, that would be awesome! Just so you know that after Aug 11, I will be cut down to logging in every two days or so, except for the weekends, which will leave me more time. I am a teacher, and out school begins on the 11th, so I'll have less free time on my hands...

Silverwolf85 (talk) 02:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Batales

Well, if no one is commenting on the issue, then we can probably merge them in good faith, provided, I feel, that we make a clear note in the talk page of what we did and if we made sure that the original article was backed up. In fact, I would add that we might do well, as a community, to make it our policy on old orders and families of plants-that they be merged into the history of the current (APG II) system. Exceptions being made where there is an extraordinary cause, i.e. an old order with a particularly meaningful history to it where a merge would be...distasteful. Beat Buddha (talk) 02:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Teaching and signatures....

Lol! I love the quote. And there are days when it can be soooooo true. :)

As far as the sig, can I keep the Silverwolf85(Talk) format, but have the colors run together throughout? Silverwolf85 (talk) 06:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I mean can you split the colors like yours, but spread it across the entire sig, and not just the username....

Speaking of morning coffee, I need to get up in six hours, so I better call it a night I'm afraid. I wont be back on till afternoon California time, so I'll talk with you later. Thank you again! I hope I haven't been too much of a hassle. :)

Silverwolf85 (talk) 07:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, it is much appreciated! Silverwolf85 (talk) 02:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: WikiUpdate

It would be great. I would like t use Skype while recording, in the event of an interview or discussion. if possible. You could also just do a news story. RedThunder 10:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I think 2010 is a very good idea. Record it and and I'll get it in the next show. As for the other show, this is just a new podcast. I kind of got fed up with the drama at RWP and decided to start my own while it is inactive (possible longer). RedThunder 10:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'd like the segment recorded by 11:00 tomorrow (your time), because I record an hour later. I'm spreading the word by posting on the community portal, and adding a "subscription box" to it. Sykpe debate: great idea. I suggest we gather up users with a sizable age range and have discussion on age/admin. Others involved in the project: Mastrchf91, Shapiros10, Vhoschythe, Xenocidic (possible), and gears of War. RedThunder 11:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't have the equipment to record segments, but if you were up to it I could telephone in and we can do an actual conversation or interview (which often sounds more entertaining). Ecoleetage (talk) 16:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

No, I currently live on the East Coast of the USA. It is a four hour time difference if I were to ring you. Ecoleetage (talk) 16:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

No, regular phone. Ecoleetage (talk) 16:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Article merger

Hi - I don't mind which way round the merger is - I've tagged both articles. If Unlearned Parliament is indeed the name used in scholarly works, I can't imagine there would be an objections to merging into your new article. Warofdreams talk 10:56, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Wang Lao Ji

I have added some extra content to Wang Lao Ji. Please slow down and wait a bit before proposing deleting stuff. It takes time to write articles, and we don't get featured articles appearing from nothing in 4 seconds flat. I have removed the deletion stuff. m.e. (talk) 16:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Milagros D. Ibe

Dear Mr. Ironholds, Dr. Milagros Dimal Ibe is a very notable person. Try to google her name and see how notable she is, not only in the Philippines but even in Southeast Asian countries, because of her contributions to mathematics education.Fadulj (talk) 07:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Supreme Soul article

Supreme Soul has already been recognized much more than status quo, the runner up in season one of ABDC ... is there something i can do to make this page better or more meaningful... its the first page ive ever made on wikipedia... so i honestly just want some help... and you seem willing to help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tntom1235 (talk • contribs) 08:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Keeping in touch...

Hi Ironholds! Just wanted to let you know what has been going on with me. I have been busy working on projects of my own for quite awhile. I just wanted to let you know what happened to me. I have been gone for so long I hope I haven't forgotten how to edit pages! I already have a page I may need help with, but I am going to try working on it on my own first. Keep in mind I am a beginner, so if I come to you with something small and silly be patient with me! Thank you again for introducing me to wikipedia and taking the small steps along with me! coldgarden (talk) 17:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

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WikiUpdate

Very nice job today, enjoyed your episode. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 21:26, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about vanishing, I was on an overnight trip. I have downloaded skype, and am on as Redthunder42. Want to do a joint show today? RedThunder 21:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure, but we need a topic. I'll record. RedThunder 21:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'm ready when you are. RedThunder 21:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Redthunder42. RedThunder 21:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I've actually been chatting with RedThunder for a while about a collaborative interview, and we spoke about it on Skype today. So, I should be a contributor for at least a few episodes. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 22:23, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I believe interviewing WikiProject coordinators, especially some of the larger ones like MILHIST, would be a great idea. Perhaps an interview with a regular RfA voter on what they look for in an RfA. And my personal favorite, a deletionist v. inclusionist debate. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 22:37, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I'd truly be interested in each. I have some experience in interviewing along with other audio work, and in my experience, it's usually best for two people to conduct an interview, so I'd most likely be one of those. I'd be interested in debating for the inclusionist side for the last idea, also. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 22:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

<-- Basically, two interviewers gives the ability to have an interview with different POVs being expressed through questions. Usually this helps to appeal to multiple types of viewers, as many hold different opinions. I've also found that personally it's a bit more aesthetically pleasing to the ears. The latter is more subjective, but I prefer 2 over one. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 22:50, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Definitely a debate. This is one which could turn into a large debate, possibly 5 people depending on the views. 2 Inclusionists, 2 deletionists, and a moderator. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 23:00, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Basically, I imagine 3 types of programs- Interviews, debates, and broadcasts. Broadcasts will be the standard information interviews, enlightening the viewers on parts of Wikipedia. These would consist of the standard 1 person announcement style. Interviews could be either a part of a broadcast, or an episode in itself. These would consist of 2 people interviewing 1 or 2 persons just about aspects of Wikipedia, but would only be an interview, no debate. A debate would most likely be its own episode, with multiple people voicing their own views and opinions on a point. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 23:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. Also, as I said, if we ever needed to, a debate could suffice for a single episode. But you get my general idea. And I believe the philosophy thing would be best as a debate if anything, with differing viewpoints. Interviews are usually meant to have only one viewpoint, that being from the interviewee, and opposing viewpoints from the interviewers, in my opinion. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 23:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Basically, with age and adminship, I believe that we'd have to have a pro-youth person, if they are relatively young, act mature, lest it appear that we used it to discourage young admins. I personally hold the opinion that you should look at each candidate as if he or she were the same age, and view one for their work and maturity. If they're young and display immaturity, or if they're older and display immaturity, I'd be unlikely to vote for either. I personally think that a debate would be best, but an interview might be the easiest. We could simply ask them the same line of questions and play them back to back.

For the inclusionist/deletionist, definitely a debate.

WikiPhilosophy could be done either way. I'd say it should depend on the schedules of our participants. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 23:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

All of that sounds good to me. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 00:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Let me see who I can scrounge up to participate, and I'll let that dictate what side I'm on. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 00:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure. I'm good on most evenings. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 00:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

United States, Central time. Usually, unless it's the morning here, I should be fine. RedThunder and I are only an hour's difference. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 00:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

<-- The Saturday would be more preferable for my schedule. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 00:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Our schedules are quite similar actually. What a coincidence. That morning should be fine for me. We could always ask Ryan, and perhaps he might have a suggestion as to another party for the debate. Well, I've got to go for the evening, so I'll talk to you more tomorrow. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 01:01, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, my email is mastrchf91@yahoo.com. My Skype is also mastrchf91. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 15:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

That would work. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 01:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Come Together: A Night for John Lennon's Words and Music

the link above is categorized as uncategorized articles.could you please find a proper category for it.?Bbadree (talk) 22:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

New Username

I figured I would let you know that I had my username changed from Silverwolf85 to Pax85. I haven't used the other name anywhere except here for ages, and thought I would finally get around to changing it... Pax85 (talk) 06:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

August 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. However, please know that editors do not own articles and should respect the work of their fellow contributors. If you create or edit an article, know that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. If I want to change a page, I can since I am an editor. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign Listen 10:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

For the record, this warning appears to be inappropriate and driven by a dispute between members of WP:RADWP and WP:WIKIUPDATE Fritzpoll (talk) 10:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hello, Ironholds. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding the WP:RADWP/WP:WPUP dispute. Thank you. RedThunder 23:05, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Reminder

Hey there, just reminding you of our scheduled talk at #wikipedia-en in one minute. I don't see you there, so just thought I'd drop by. Hope I did my math right. ;) -[[Ryan]] ^{(my desk)} 12:29, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiUpdate

My Internet was down yesterday, so I couldn't record. Also, the sound file you sent to me did not work. Could you try another format? RedThunder 12:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it still isn't working. By the way, happy belated birthday! RedThunder 14:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Age/admin debate

Is Monday good for you? RedThunder 21:26, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Are we debating today in case of an editing need? What users will be involved? RedThunder 12:30, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Tickhill Castle DYK

On 9 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tickhill Castle, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 00:07, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you check your sources and resolve a small nit? In the text you have

Between 1151 and 1151 the castle was held by Ranulph de Gernon, 2nd Earl of Chester before ...

I see elsewhere where dates "1151-3" are mentioned. Could that second 1151 be really 1153? Shenme (talk) 01:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Skypecast at 5:30 eastern

Me and Mastrchf91 have planned a skypecast for 5:30 eastern time. We do need a subject, though. This will be for Monday's show. Please go to our skype chat and discuss it with us. RedThunder 19:23, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi. I'm honestly really sorry for my conduct (the edit to your userpage). I was in a little prankish mood earlier and created this account for such acts. But later I realised that it's pointless to behave like this. My amusing-to-some and less-than-deep username is an indication that I originally didn't create this account for any normal contributions to wikipedia. It was the block that made me realise that it's better to do some worthwile contribution rather than while away time like I was doing earlier. So I decided to use this very account for normal contributions. You can see that I've built a totally userboxed userpage, and from my contribs you can find out that I've started making serious edits. Once again, I'm sorry for my conduct, and I hope that I do get forgiveness for this act. Sincerely

Pleasantfartsa (talk) 23:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK: Lepreum

On 11 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lepreum, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--PFHLai (talk) 00:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Here's one for you to consider...

...try this on one: [1]. My take: marginal, but deserving of preservation rather than erasure. What do you think? Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 01:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Just a quickie heads-up: The Berkeley Planet is actually a respected alternative weekly. I don't know if you've ever been to Berkeley (a fun place), but if you were there you would see it everywhere. Hope all is well. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Unlearned Parliament DYK

On 12 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Unlearned Parliament, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Congratulations! PeterSymonds (talk) 02:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Something for your input

Hey, guess what...I have an article up for AfD! Here it is: [2]

What do you think? Ecoleetage (talk) 14:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Friday

I'll do some general Wiki news, I also think we should put a tribute in for User:Jeffpw (see here). You are doing the interview, right? RedThunder 11:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I would like to do the tribute, unless you knew him of course. For the news, we have the 2.5 million articles, updating the Olympics and the proper way to do it. RedThunder 12:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)