Talk:Greater Manchester

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I've finished converting this section into prose, that's one less barrier to GA. It's not perfect and might be a bit too long, but I think that's for other people to decide. Nev1 (talk) 23:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great! A vast improvement. One thing though, I think we may have to remove a couple of the images in this section per WP:IMAGE (specifically that they sandwich alot of text between them). I'm inclined for the "Excavations" and "Manchester Art Gallery" images to go (at least for now). Also, I'm mindful that in the forthcoming months that we (hopefully) improve this article, we should try to avoid a Manchester-bias, particularly with images. Of course the city has special status within the county, but I would hope it doesn't become a point for content forking from the main Manchester article. -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point. We should try to include a representative sample of images from all around the county.

With regard to image placement, I've been led to believe that it's a no-no to have a left-aligned image directly underneath a section/subsection header. The reasoning being that separates the heading from its content. I may of course be completely mistaken, in which case please feel free to revert the change I just made to the Governance section. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 01:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's only for 2nd level headings, so "===" rather than "==". Why I don't know, as it looks fine in my browser, but it must be to cater for other browsers. I'll pop the governance one back as it is fine in this instance -- Jza84 · (talk) 13:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citation required

This, from the Transport section, needs to be sourced I think. "Manchester Airport, which is the fourth largest in the United Kingdom, serves the county with flights to more destinations than any other airport in the UK." --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 12:48, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put this in in a sec. This one can be used to confirm the 225 destinations claim, although it looks a bit less "official". Hassocks5489 (talk) 13:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that's odd: I thought the "225 claim" was on there, but it wasn't! Never mind; I've added it now. Hassocks5489 (talk) 13:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Terraced houses

... in red-brick seem to be a recurring featured throughout the county, and I'm surprised this isn't already mentioned. There's a few nice shots at commons, including Image:Middleton, Durnford Street.jpg, Image:Chadderton Mill.jpg, Image:Fredrick Street, Werneth, Oldham.jpg. As there are already several images from that part of the county however, I'd be more inclined to go with Image:Church Street, Hyde, Greater Manchester.jpg or Image:Ancoats.jpg or something from Flickr like this, which could kill a few birds at once. I know a few other cities have this type of housing stock, but not an entire county. -- Jza84 · (talk) 13:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not to forget the stone-built terraces in many of the mill towns of course! I think the red brick is due to the large amount of clay which was deposited in the area at the end of the last ice age and the softness of the red sandstone in the lower reaches of the Irwell. If you look on the old maps there were brick fields all around Manchester and Salford. I imagine brick was cheaper and easier to use than stone also. Richerman (talk) 15:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The only space where another image could go would be in the settlements section, is that where you were thinking of putting one? I really like the Urban Splash street as some of the others look like simple generic "Northern" streets, built on the cheap after the war, although common they are pretty boring.

Also it looks like my plan is working with 63 edits to the article today (including mine). I think it's already GA standard, you may think we need more sources but we have 127 refs compared to another GA county such as Hampshire which has only 17! _└^and-rew_┘^┌_talk^┐ 16:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sneaky!..... 'Tis amazing we have so many refs compared with Hampshire. I've just expanded the History section with loads of really interesting factoids (well, interesting to me, and fairly unknown too!). I also agree we should go with the Urban Splash image - it's the best one and we can use it to elaborate on several phenomina such as the mill town history, decline, slum clearances and contemporary gentrification. I think this would be suitable for the Demography section. -- Jza84 · (talk) 16:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also like to see the Picadilly Gardens image replaced with something from Heaton or Peel park - both less Manc-centric and both with slightly more interesting histories. -- Jza84 · (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]