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*[[Narcoterrorist]] attack on a military convoy by [[Shining Path]] geuerillas kills 19 including women and children in southeast [[Peru]]. [http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/081010/world/peru_rebels_unrest (AFP via Yahoo News)]
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*[[Montenegro]] and [[Macedonia]] [[International reaction to the 2008 declaration of independence by Kosovo|recognize]] [[Kosovo]], bringing the total number of [[United Nations]] members recognising Kosovo to fifty. [http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/10/09/europe/EU-Montenegro-Kosovo-Serbia.php (International Herald Tribune)]
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*The [[U.S.]] [[National Security Agency]] is accused of listening to Americans' private phone conversations.[http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=5987804&page=1 (ABC News)]
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*[[Nobel Prize]]:
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**[[France|French]] writer [[Jean-Marie Gustave Le Clézio]] is announced the winner of the [[2008]] [[Nobel Prize in Literature]].
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*[[2008 Pacific hurricane season]] : [[Tropical Storm Odile (2008)|Tropical Storm Odile]] forms south of [[Mexico]] while [[Hurricane Norbert (2008)|Hurricane Norbert]] weakens to [[tropical storm]] strength northwest of Odile. [http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gVWjsPEiqe1tEu2mhBIRaxxGi8owD93MSJBG0 (AP via Google News)]
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*[[Global financial crisis of September–October 2008]]:
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**Head of [[International Monetary Fund]] says the US Financial Crises threatens to send the world into a recession. IMF releases World Economic Outlook report with gloomy projections for the global financial system. [http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0,2145,12215_cid_3703262,00.html (Deutsche Welle)]
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**The [[Dow Jones Industrial Average]] falls by 678.91 points to 8,579.19 points. [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/business/10markets.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin (''New York Times'')]
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**[[Greece]] introduces a 100,000 Euro guarantee for the 230 billion Euro bank deposits in the country for three years, well above the EU-wide [[Ecofin]]-mandated minimum of 50,000 Euro for one year, and gives assurances that the Greek banking system is stable, while the Greek central bank announces a drop in the expected growth of the [[Greek economy]] to 3.3% (from 4%) because of decreased consumption caused by high petrol and food prices. [http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_economy_1_09/10/2008_101124 (ekathimerini)], [http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w_articles_economy_1_09/10/2008_101125 (ekathimerini)], [http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2008/10/08/ap5524908.html (Forbes)], [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Greece_guarantees_bank_deposits (Wikinews)]

**[[Kaupthing Bank]], Iceland's largest bank, is nationalized by the country's [[Icelandic Financial Supervisory Authority|Financial Supervisory Authority]]. [http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ah7rLJahTxyA&refer=home (Bloomberg)]
== he loves his children ==
*[[North Korea]] has forbidden ships to sail in an area of the [[Yellow Sea]] as it prepares for the launch of 10 short-range missiles. [http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4984S320081009 (Reuters)] [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7660444.stm (BBC News)]

*[[Democratic Republic of the Congo]] accuses [[Rwanda]] of sending troops across the border, threatening the city of [[Goma]]. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7660592.stm (BBC News)]
Honestly I'm not trying to be an ass but what does that have to do with anything? Everybody who has kids loves them. That seems more like the opinion of a devoted fan than a fact or something that's [[WP:NPOV|NPOV]]. [[User:BronzeWarrior|BronzeWarrior]] 23:54, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
*[[War on Terrorism]]:

**[[NATO]] commander U.S. Army Gen. [[Bantz J. Craddock]] asks member countries for authority to target drug trade in [[Afghanistan]]. [http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4980BC20081009 (Reuters)]

**U.S. claims 27 militants killed in military operations in [[Afghanistan]] [http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081009/wl_sthasia_afp/afghanistanunrest;_ylt=AphIZVDDDiXvgbEJduZZykkBxg8F (AFP via Yahoo News)]
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**Suicide bomber attacks police headquarters in Pakistani capital of [[Islamabad]], wounding eight. Two air strikes northwest of [[Pakistan]] kill 20 militants. [http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4983OQ20081009 (Reuters)]

**US missile strikes in northwest of [[Pakistan]] kill at least nine. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7662127.stm (BBC News)] [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan (AP via Yahoo News)]
Are you sure he was born in 1975 ??? On google & wikipedia you find many different answers... [[User:134.59.6.84|134.59.6.84]] 09:59, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
**A roadside bomb in north-western [[Pakistan]] hits a school bus and a prison vehicle, killing four school children and at least six others. [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7660835.stm (BBC News)]

*Court in the [[United Kingdom]] hears of how two doctors [[2007 London car bombs|planned car bomb attacks]] on [[London]] and [[Glasgow]] airports in revenge for how UK was treating Muslims [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7660750.stm (BBC News)]
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*[[NATO]] plans on sending seven warships to protect [[United Nations]] food aid from [[Piracy in Somalia]]. [http://www.radionetherlands.nl/news/international/6001529/NATO-to-send-warships-to-Somalian-waters (Radio Netherlands Worldwide)]
As there is no prose content to this article, there are no BLP issues; nothing even remotely controversial is discussed on the article. If there are specific BLP problems with the article, please enumerate them. And use the talk page, rather than disruptive reverting. [[User:Chubbles|Chubbles]] ([[User talk:Chubbles|talk]]) 16:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
* [[North Korea]] ends its nuclear freeze as it prepares to restart a nuclear facility [http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081009/ap_on_re_as/eu_nuclear_nkorea (AP via Yahoo News)]

*No candidate wins a [[absolute majority|majority]] in the [[Maldives]]' first [[democracy|democratic]] [[Maldivian presidential election, 2008|presidential election]]; the incumbent [[Maumoon Abdul Gayoom]] will face [[Mohamed Nasheed]] in a [[two-round system|runoff]]. [http://www.minivannews.com/news_detail.php?id=5132 (Minivan News)]
(Some context: The above comment was directed at [[User:JBsupreme]], who has redirected this page to [[Bone Thugs-N-Harmony]]; I reverted this change. See the article page history.) [[User:Chubbles|Chubbles]] ([[User talk:Chubbles|talk]]) 20:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
*[[Los Zetas]] of the [[Gulf Cartel]] suspected killers of 5 police near [[Guadalajara]] during nationwide crackdown in [[Mexico]]. [http://fe6.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/ap/lt_mexico_violence;_ylt=ArN2xAcCZP6AXc8l.XvnafVsr7sF (AP via Yahoo News)]
:My 2¢- I don't see any BLP issues, in fact I don't see much of anything. As a member of a notable group who has also had a solo career, Layzie should have his own page per the guidelines at [[WP:BAND]]. This needs expansion, not redirecting. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 20:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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::The page has been redirected, again. [[User:Chubbles|Chubbles]] ([[User talk:Chubbles|talk]]) 11:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== Third opinion ==

Hi, The subject of the article fulfils the notability criteria at Wikipedia and should have an article of their own. The article needs major expansion, however. It currently offers very little to the reader other than basic information. It should have a section on their musician history, early life, projects and reviews by news papers, magazines and music reviews. There are lots of information that can be added; [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1510378/20050926/bone_thugs_n_harmony.jhtml this for example], [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1214409/ this], [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Wr1lmklsD8QC&pg=PT286&dq=%22Layzie+Bone%22&sig=ACfU3U2I0DCh-AhgS_OYcw3ZMmTwAdyloQ this], [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=_WoRAPJQ58sC&dq=%22Layzie+Bone%22 this], [http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=9lYYAAAAIAAJ&dq=%22Layzie+Bone%22 this] and many more could be used to aid in this process. ''Note: [[WP:BLP]] is not the same as [[WP:NN]] or [[WP:MUSIC]]. The subject is notable and there are no BLP issues I can see)'' '''''<font color="darkgreen">[[User:Fr33kman|fr33k]]</font><font color="blue">[[User talk:Fr33kman|man]]</font> <font color="darkgreen" size="1">[[w:simple:User:Fr33kman|-s-]]</font>''''' 02:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:You may wish to note that the other party in this dispute [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Layzie_Bone&diff=228947516&oldid=228947388 removed all the prose content from the article] a while back, with no explanation. [[User:Chubbles|Chubbles]] ([[User talk:Chubbles|talk]]) 03:53, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::Restore it then. It will still need expanding at some point. It is not wikify'ed, it needs a lead and then additional sections. '''''<font color="darkgreen">[[User:Fr33kman|fr33k]]</font><font color="blue">[[User talk:Fr33kman|man]]</font> <font color="darkgreen" size="1">[[w:simple:User:Fr33kman|-s-]]</font>''''' 13:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I can't. I'm already at my 3RR limit and the redirecter refuses to talk on this page. [[User:Chubbles|Chubbles]] ([[User talk:Chubbles|talk]]) 14:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Understand, no problems. I'll do it then. :-) '''''<font color="darkgreen">[[User:Fr33kman|fr33k]]</font><font color="blue">[[User talk:Fr33kman|man]]</font> <font color="darkgreen" size="1">[[w:simple:User:Fr33kman|-s-]]</font>''''' 17:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

;I am in the middle of major expansion
Please do not edit the article until I'm finished (about two hours or so). I am able to expand in with [[WP:V||correct verification]] using [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] to comply with [[WP:MOS]] and [[WP:MUSIC]]. Thank you! '''''<font color="darkgreen">[[User:Fr33kman|fr33k]]</font><font color="blue">[[User talk:Fr33kman|man]]</font> <font color="darkgreen" size="1">[[w:simple:User:Fr33kman|-s-]]</font>''''' 18:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

===Article has now been expanded into C-class===

The article is no longer a stub and has been expanded into a C-class article. The subject is notable and has a solo career and a career with [[Bone Brothers]] that is separate from his membership in [[Bone Thugs-N-Harmony]]. Editors should not revert this edit but should improve it instead. There are many ways it can be improved. Steven has been shot, almost had his finger bit off and has acted as the influence for other rappers. All of these claims can be referenced on the Internet.

Edit-warring has to stop on this article and editors should note that further wars will likely result in user-[[WP:RFC|RFC]]'s or blocks. Admitedy the article was in a poor condiciton and the prose was rather poor also. Street lingo should be avoided unless quoting someone directly.

I, and others will be watching this article. Thank you, have a nice time improving this article! '''''<font color="darkgreen">[[User:Fr33kman|fr33k]]</font><font color="blue">[[User talk:Fr33kman|man]]</font> <font color="darkgreen" size="1">[[w:simple:User:Fr33kman|-s-]]</font>''''' 21:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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he loves his children

Honestly I'm not trying to be an ass but what does that have to do with anything? Everybody who has kids loves them. That seems more like the opinion of a devoted fan than a fact or something that's NPOV. BronzeWarrior 23:54, 11 September 2006 (UTC)


Date

Are you sure he was born in 1975 ??? On google & wikipedia you find many different answers... 134.59.6.84 09:59, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

BLP

As there is no prose content to this article, there are no BLP issues; nothing even remotely controversial is discussed on the article. If there are specific BLP problems with the article, please enumerate them. And use the talk page, rather than disruptive reverting. Chubbles (talk) 16:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

(Some context: The above comment was directed at User:JBsupreme, who has redirected this page to Bone Thugs-N-Harmony; I reverted this change. See the article page history.) Chubbles (talk) 20:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

My 2¢- I don't see any BLP issues, in fact I don't see much of anything. As a member of a notable group who has also had a solo career, Layzie should have his own page per the guidelines at WP:BAND. This needs expansion, not redirecting. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
The page has been redirected, again. Chubbles (talk) 11:16, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Third opinion

Hi, The subject of the article fulfils the notability criteria at Wikipedia and should have an article of their own. The article needs major expansion, however. It currently offers very little to the reader other than basic information. It should have a section on their musician history, early life, projects and reviews by news papers, magazines and music reviews. There are lots of information that can be added; this for example, this, this, this, this and many more could be used to aid in this process. Note: WP:BLP is not the same as WP:NN or WP:MUSIC. The subject is notable and there are no BLP issues I can see) fr33kman -s- 02:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

You may wish to note that the other party in this dispute removed all the prose content from the article a while back, with no explanation. Chubbles (talk) 03:53, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Restore it then. It will still need expanding at some point. It is not wikify'ed, it needs a lead and then additional sections. fr33kman -s- 13:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I can't. I'm already at my 3RR limit and the redirecter refuses to talk on this page. Chubbles (talk) 14:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Understand, no problems. I'll do it then. :-) fr33kman -s- 17:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I am in the middle of major expansion

Please do not edit the article until I'm finished (about two hours or so). I am able to expand in with |correct verification using reliable sources to comply with WP:MOS and WP:MUSIC. Thank you! fr33kman -s- 18:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Article has now been expanded into C-class

The article is no longer a stub and has been expanded into a C-class article. The subject is notable and has a solo career and a career with Bone Brothers that is separate from his membership in Bone Thugs-N-Harmony. Editors should not revert this edit but should improve it instead. There are many ways it can be improved. Steven has been shot, almost had his finger bit off and has acted as the influence for other rappers. All of these claims can be referenced on the Internet.

Edit-warring has to stop on this article and editors should note that further wars will likely result in user-RFC's or blocks. Admitedy the article was in a poor condiciton and the prose was rather poor also. Street lingo should be avoided unless quoting someone directly.

I, and others will be watching this article. Thank you, have a nice time improving this article! fr33kman -s- 21:18, 10 October 2008 (UTC)