Talk:LittleBigPlanet (2008 video game)

Media

Can someone add that it's as a download and BD? I don't know how to do that.

Added. —cmsJustin (talk|contribs) 02:27, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Updated --Real Kyzer (talk) 10:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

HD?

Will this run in 1080? 62.25.106.209 18:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes. -- 86.17.211.191 (talk) 02:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Source? 62.56.108.66 (talk) 15:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Locked at 30fps, 720p -- Real Kyzer (talk) 11:37, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Box Art

I am removing the box art for multiple reasons. First of all, Wikipedia is not a forum or soapbox (see the rules), and this includes being a forum for fan art, which is what the box is.

Second, both the Sony Computer Entertainment logo and the LittleBigPlanet logo are being used in violation of Trademark laws. Sony specifically states on their press website the rules for using their logos, and it states they must be used only for reference only, and must be on certain backgrounds. This image violates both those policies.

Last, the cover displays the ESRB Rating Everyone, or "E", and the ESRB strictly prohibits this, as they have not rated the game yet. Therefore it is false information.

If you object to my reasoning, feel free to bring it up with me :)

In my opinion, I would replace that box art with just the logo on a white background (therefore it would be in accordance with Sony's usage policies for their trademarks), and state the fair use reason as the image is the only image that could represent the game, and that there is no suitable replacement.

WIKIPEEDIO 03:40, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Unofficial Box Art?

If it's unofficial why is it there? This is an encyclopedic article, having something that's unofficial isn't very encyclopedic, in my opinion. I'll wait and see what others think before I remove it. --Mwutz 20:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

I thought the same thing. I had uploaded the official logo a while ago and it got replaced with that. I think the logo should be reinstated in the absence of box art. (PS, i don't think you have a closing span tag on your signature :) )ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 20:44, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

You were right about the span tag, but not only that... one of my links led to another user. Is your logo still uploaded, I think you or I should replace it. --Mwutz 21:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

 Done I had to re-uploaded it because it got orphaned and auto deleted before. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 23:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Good, that's much better. That boxart was ugly anyway >_> --Mwutz 18:57, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Japanese release date

Sorry for all the extra edits, I was trying to add the October 30th date to the release section, but ended up breaking the infobox. Could someone step in and offer a helping hand? Dragonscales (talk) 17:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

British English

The article is currently written in British English (eg "Character customisation"). I reverted a couple of edits that changed it to a Z because the article's topic is a British product. See WP:ENGVAR where it says "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the appropriate variety of English for that nation." Obviously it's not a big deal, I just thought I'd post something here to try and avoid lots of edits and reverts. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 08:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I've altered the dates to match ENGVAR as well. - X201 (talk) 15:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Little Big Planet Guide

LittleBigPlanet Guide, http://www.littlebigplanetguide.com was deleted from the External Links section of this page. The site was called "terrifyingly comprehensive" by Media Molecule, the developers of the game, as seen on this blog post: http://www.mediamolecule.com/2008/08/12/awesome-ice-cream-van-awesome-links. This community based site is just as relevant as the other sites listed in the External links section. Please reinstate the link or weigh in. Thank you.

michaelbeezner —Preceding undated comment was added at 16:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

You are free to submit your link to the Open Directory Project, which is linked to in the article. The consensus seems to be for all other listed links to be to official sites or Wikimedia sister sites. Dancter (talk) 16:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

According to this page, sister sites of Wikimedia are not the only types of sites that can be linked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:EL. I also think that is an unfair consensus that prevents sites of high value from being listed appropriately and denies Wikipedia users of information and experiences that they are looking for.

In the “What should be linked” section, points 3 and 4 apply to Little Big Planet Guide. 3. Sites that contain neutral and accurate material that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to copyright issues, amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks) or other reasons. There are many examples of this type of information on the site. A specific example is the LittleBigPlanet Definites page, which is sited on Wikipedia as a source: http://www.littlebigplanetguide.com/page/LittleBigPlanet+Definates

4. Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article: The site includes hundreds of videos including interviews with game developers, trailers, etc., along with areas where users can come together to share ideas about levels and provide feedback for the developers.

Please reconsider adding this site to the external links section. michaelbeezner —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

It also says: "Links in the 'External links' section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links, or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links." Again, if your article is as good as you say, it should have no problem getting listed in the ODP category, which is barren as it is. I would actually support moving the other links there, too, and just list the ODP link here, leaving the discussions about link-listing and fairness to a site that specializes in directory functions. Dancter (talk) 18:01, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

The number of external links was one of my concerns for removing it but my main reason was WP:EL#ADV. I don't mean to cause offence but I can only say the following in one way, your addition looked like yet another spammer trying to promote their own site by adding an external link. The fact that you've come here for a discussion obviously raises you above spammers, but look at it through my eyes, with your first three edits you placed a link on the article page and your user page. Now there's nothing wrong with that per se but those are the exact same actions we've seen time and time again from link spammers. So you can see how it looked to me. If over time your site becomes the site for LBP info then it will probably be worthy of an inclusion, but that will happen over time and will need to be by someone not connected to you or the site. You can propose it yourself on the talk page but adding it yourself, Its just not cricket - X201 (talk) 18:45, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

D-Pad actions?

Hi, just a question. The article states that the D-pad is used to display emotion on the avatars with down equalling 'sad'; the next section then states "The user can jump in and out of edit mode at any time by pressing the down button on the d-pad". Surely it's one or the other? 42Dentrassi (talk) 13:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

It's a combination of R1 and a directional button. I've added that to the article now. Cheers. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 15:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Beta

The information about the open beta being cancelled in the intro summary seemingly contradicts what it says later on in the Release Date section. Anyone know for sure? Phrenology (talk) 02:35, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I believe it was confirmed, then Sony said it was cancelled, then Media Molecule said it was happening. I'll try and find a source but remove the contradiction for the time-being. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 06:59, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

LittleBigPlanet release on PC

There's a rumor that LittleBigPlanet will be coming out for PC. Click here for rumor

Can anyone confirm or debunk this?-Blakjak664 (talk) 15:36, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I can debunk it. It is produced by Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, and if you look up the rights to the game, some logos and other material are property of SCEE. Also, Sony Computer Entertainment does not produce PC games. You cannot cite an unreliable blog for this, and you furthermore cannot link a the main page to the talk page, so that is being removed as well. WIKIPEEDIO 16:06, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I think this has been debunked. I believe it was in an interview on a podcast. When asked about the PC box, someone from Sony said something along the lines of "I don't know where they got that from. This game is exclusive to PS3". Besides, a photo of some placeholder box art on Kotaku is not a reliable source. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 18:54, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I saw one of these boxes in Gamestop. I don't think they would say it was coming out for PC if it wasn't. I think I'll go in there and ask what it means.-Blakjak664 (talk) 16:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Even if they gave you any speculation, you still need a citation or otherwise it would constitute original research. Additionally, Wikipedia is really not supposed to be a vehicle for this type of highly unlikely, and highly unsupported, scenario. It is a good find though. 68.43.194.195 (talk) 20:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Look at the official US Boxart, at the very top of it. What do you see? "Only On PlayStation". There you go. WIKIPEEDIO 02:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Archive bot

I've added an archive bot to the page to automatically archive old discussions. The parameters are as follows: any thread that has not received a comment within the last 150 days will be archived but there will always be 5 discussions left on the page to prevent new users from seeing a daunting blank discussion page. Hope this is OK with everyone. If not add a comment below. - X201 (talk) 10:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

RSS feeds generated by the game

I'm writing a Community section for the article which details the game's community and social networking features. I read an interview a couple of weeks ago where Alex Evans talks about RSS feeds which the game will generate for each player and can be acessed from outside the game (on the internet). I can't for the life of me find the interview now! Anyone know which one I'm talking about so I can cite it? ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 20:52, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

LittleBigPlanet abbreviated to LBP?

Who has abbreviated it as this? If it's just done that way by the fans (because people love to shorten things online), it's not notable for inclusion in the article. RobJ1981 (talk) 07:36, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I think it's fairly common, like GTA. Not just among fans. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 07:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

By the press and by the media molecule in their blog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.243.77 (talk) 17:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

yeah, on the littlebigplanet blog —Preceding unsigned comment added by Estemshorn (talk • contribs) 22:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Reversion of multiple edits by 98.216.84.218

I undid these edits because:

• They removed the European version of the box art without reason
• They added specific game controllers (ie, "SIXAXIS") where this field should only show the type of controller (ie "Gamepad")
• The publisher is SCEE and SCEA so SCE covers both of these (see comment by X201 below)
• They removed other images with no reason provided
• The date format was incorrect as article is written in British English
• Commentary comparing the two box arts is needed to justify fair use

ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 07:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Additional: Please stop changing Sony Computer Entertainment Europe to Sony Computer Entertainment.
SCEE are the publishers of the game, and the following quote is from the bottom of the official LBP US website "LittleBigPlanet ©2007 Sony Computer Entertainment Europe. Developed by Media Molecule. LittleBigPlanet is a trademark of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe." - X201 (talk) 08:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Character Customization (Question)

I know all the characters will feature customization from other PlayStation games, but I'm wondering. Will it feature other clothing accessories from MotorStorm? yes, I know none of the characters have any names (because they are random), but I'm wondering if it will happen? 70.45.160.124 (talk) 22:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I guess if it's not been mentioned, then it won't be in at launch, but there's no reason why they can't add it in as downloadable content given the nature of the game, and I'm sure Sony would appreciate the extra tie-ins to their games. Anyway, we'd best leave this one here, as this is not supposed to be a discussion forum. SynergyBlades (talk) 23:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Question closed. Guess it seems fair for me that a question has been answered then. 70.45.160.124 (talk) 00:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Stop being biased.

I have noticed that this article is biased towards Europe. For the publisher, it says "Sony Computer Entertainment Europe". I find it easier to just write "Sony Computer Entertainment". Simply because I'm sure SCEE isnt going to distribute the game to the rest of the world. You have to consider the many people who read this article who don't live in Europe. I noticed this issue and changed the publisher to SCE, and it was changed back to SCEE. I'm not sure who edited that, but you're extremely stubborn, and because of that, the article was locked. This is a perfect example of being biased of your own area and not considering everyone else. -Clash836

To quote the user above: "the following quote is from the bottom of the official LBP US website "LittleBigPlanet ©2007 Sony Computer Entertainment Europe. Developed by Media Molecule. LittleBigPlanet is a trademark of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe."" So unless you've got a source that says it won't be published by SCEE in the US, that's the way it stays. SynergyBlades (talk) 02:39, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

You've answered your own question "For the publisher, it says "Sony Computer Entertainment Europe".... I'm sure SCEE isnt going to distribute the game to the rest of the world."

SCEE are the publishers of LBP. SCEA are the distributors. The reverse is true for games developed in the US and published by SCEA. They always flip-flop, publisher for their own games, distributor for games from another region. The template has a distributor field that hasn't been filled in, that is all that needs to be added to resolve this. I'll add it with SCEE and SCEA as distributors and leave SCEE as the publisher. - X201 (talk) 08:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Assessment as of 2008-09-25

Remaining Start-class. This article is coming along well, but there's still plenty to deal with before even C-class can be given:

• Development information?
• Gameplay section needs to be compressed down. For such a significant game it's important to cover all the details, but be careful about covering too much to the point you make the article sound like an instruction manual. Think about subsections of it that can be slimmed down and combined.
• Citations, citations, citations. There's a lot of citation needed tags in there: solve the issue with them. Also the URL citations need to be in the correct format too. The appropriate cite template will give you a good idea how to handle them.
• Does release date really need an entire section? Could it and marketing be combined into the dev section?

So far it's a good start, but definitely needs some cleaning. Looking forward to the finished product.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 10:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Not to be confused with...

Not to be confused with the 1994 PC adventure game, Little Big Adventure. Is anyone really going to confuse it, or can we remove this? SynergyBlades (talk) 20:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I doubt it. LittleBigPlanet is pretty well-known now. I doubt that comment is needed. On the other hand, it does no harm (I know that's a bad arguament!) ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 22:27, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

If the rationale of whoever placed it there is that it may be confusing because it starts with the words "Little" & "Big", then why didn't they disambig Little Bighorn as well? - X201 (talk) 08:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

japanese beta

product code were sent to selected testers on september 29. beta is working from september 29 to october 12. Cliché Online (talk) 07:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you have a source for that so it can be added to the article? ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 07:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Development

The Development section seems very sparse on actual development info, its all marketing and beta info. Im trying to find some stuff but my memory is fading as to where I read the stuff about the game thats in my head...(development wise). Im thinking 1up yours etc so I'll have a look. John.n-IRL 15:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll trawl through my old copies of Edge for some info. - X201 (talk) 15:49, 1 October 2008 (UTC)