User talk:AndrewHowse

Michael Willis

No, everything's fine; the protection I applied expired, and then DumbBOT came along and helpfully removed the no-longer-required template from the top of the page. Black Kite 01:08, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

monika enterprise wiki please help

andrew, i do not understand the claim that the wiki page i have recently been amending should be "speedily deleted" as it is obviously advertising. this label is a cultural institution that has been releasing good music for over ten years. what about all the other labels that have wikis? e.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Channel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_record_labels http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_record_labels plesae reinstate the work i did yesterday and, as i am quite new to wikipedia, give me some tips at my talk page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Monika_enterprise esp. re the hangon tag - im ot sure where i should place this so as to save what i have entered or how it works. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monika enterprise (talk • contribs) 12:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

(Text reinstated after replacing history) andrew, thanks for your feedback - ill see what natalie says. perhaps some of the wording could be less biased but i honestly believe the label is of enyclopedic interest as a cultural institution. (Reinstatement ends - --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:21, 6 March 2008 (UTC))

Vivisection

Hey Andrew. Could you possibly hold up on the disambiguations of vivisection to animal testing for a bit? There is an important distinction between the two and, especially historically and all references to vivisection are not actually the same thing as animal testing. There is a strong lobby that attempts to use the two in an indistinguishable manner, but we should not be promoting that here. Rockpocket 20:43, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. The best thing is probably to go through them all one by one and see if we can reword using more neutral language. I can do that myself later today. I can use your contribs list to find them all the ones you disambiged, if you wish, so you don't need to revert them yourself. Rockpocket 20:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I'll go through later and see what I can do anyway. I, personally, don't think it should be a dab. Vivisection, the technical definition, has a long and controversial history and could make a nice little page. However, currently the material that should be in vivisection is currently in animal testing, because the animal rights lobby have made it their primary goal to equate all experimentation on animals to cutting them up while still alive (despite that being extremely rare these days). As such, the "popular" usage of the term is as a synonym for animal testing, while the technical use is simply a historical type of animal testing.

I think what I will do is replace the term "vivisection" with "animal testing" in articles when that is what is being referred to and, when the technical use of the word is being used, either leave it pointing at the dab or point it to the dicdef at Wiktionary. Not perfect, but probably the most neutral way to address this problem. Rockpocket 21:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, there is a lot of history there. SlimVirgin is a fine editor and we often work together to keep these sorts of articles balanced. When I get a chance, I'll see if we can expand Vivisection again. Rockpocket 18:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Pike (disambiguation)

I hope you don't mind me stepping on your edits. I was about to save my edits just as you did. I think you'll note that my clean-up was a little more in depth, so I went ahead and saved my version. If you think it should be changed in any way, or reverted to your version let's discuss it. Marchije (talk) 15:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:de:Pike,fr:Pike - I've just put them back 8-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marchije (talk • contribs) 15:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the note - yes we were all editing it at the same time, so confusion can creep in (especially mine ;) ). It did look out of place as a child of "Cyphers" and it makes more sense in surnames (as the clarification on the Project Talk page shows), so it has all worked out in the end. (Emperor (talk) 03:04, 11 March 2008 (UTC))

some help anticipated

hi..I dont know why but in spite of having done everything what I was told, there seem to be problem with some wiki admins now also. Initially I was asked to supply some reliable third party sources, now I made available links of national newspapers, then too a very abstract issue of subtantiality of the coverage of the newspaper is raised. less substantiality of the article is always at the cost of neutrality or non advertising nature of the article, as should be the case. newspapers always cover incidents in a neutral and informative manner, so the very speculative issue of substantiality should be declined. However i have written on your talk page to tell you that though I have been using wikipedia for so long and acquainted with its policies, I might be missing some technicality behind the issue, which may in turn can support my request. Seeking your help. regards, Extolmonica (talk) 18:23, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I've said everything I have to say at the deletion review. --AndrewHowse (talk) 18:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Review for Youth United

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Youth United. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Extolmonica (talk) 20:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

My previous reply remains appropriate. --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Resilience (network)

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My response. --AndrewHowse (talk) 18:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Sebastian Palacios

Thank you for your time. Probably my mistake was not gathering enough information to show how important Sebastian Palacios’s subject is to Colombian people since he has been featured in different newspapers and media in his country. He has been chosen as an icon against terrorism, and you can surely learn more about it if you read articles about Colombian political status. If you are kind enough, I will place the article under construction and find secondary sources from newspapers and media. I will be thankful if you delete the deletion tag, but will keep you informed of the changes and show you the article before it is republished. Note that the biography published is extracted from an organization created and run by engineering and science departments which is very reliable. If you have any advice please help since I, like you, just want to do the best benefit. I really do not understand why it looks like I am Sebastian Palacios. I just copied most of the information from the college's website and pasted in wikipedia adding some sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebthian (talk • contribs) 20:01, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

By the way, if you are concerned that the user name is sebthian (almost Sebastian), realize that I only created a profile to create this article. I tried user name Sebastian, but was taken already.

Thank for your time! I will work on it. I may not have enough time, therefore I uploaded everything to the user page already. The same biography is in the official Miami-Dade Colege website, and it links to it. Also it has a link from the official National website of the American Society for Engineering Education. I will remove not reliable sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebthian (talk • contribs) 22:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

(Preceding comments reinstated)

===Thanks===

Thank you for your time. I have no intention to continue with this, it is getting too complicated. I will let someone else do it in the future. Anyways if someone needs his biography they can go to www.mdc.edu. You are a fair user. Thanks.--Sebthian (talk) 04:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

(end cleanup) --AndrewHowse (talk) 14:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Thanks for clearing that up =D ĞavinŤing 05:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

AHM (magazine)

AndrewHowse, the magazine AHM (magazine) is a true magazine...but the magazine does not have a website. User:Whenaxis -leave something on my talk page. <moved from top> --AndrewHowse (talk) 00:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I have proof that its real because look at Wikipedia in the article List of Canadian magazines, and you will find AHM (magazine). Whenaxis -leave a message at my talk. —Preceding comment was added at 11:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC) <moved from top>

For an explaination of AHM (magazine) visit the 'Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AHM (magazine)'. (Whenaxis (talk) 00:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC))

Please go back to AHM (magazine) page and put your 2nd opinons on the page; as the page has been updated. Whenaxis (talk) 23:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Fullback (rugby)

Disambiguating Fullback to Fullback (rugby) using popups may cause a few problems as the page has both codes of rugby, with the full-back position being vastly different in both variations. Footy people will be shocked to see one of the most attacking positions in the game, called a defensive position and rugby people will see the obvious differences as well. A direct route to either position is probably best. Alexsanderson83 (talk) 19:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Herzog (name)

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LesTout.com

Before the article LesTout.com go live, I added a separate page at User:Shivaji Mitra/LesTout.com for getting the article approved based on עוד מישהו request and which was finally approved by user User:Gonzo_fan2007 once I notified this on Administrators' noticeboard. I have added enough references about the article. If anything, I have not included according to wikipedia guidelines please bring it to my knowledge so that I work on it. Thanks.--Shivaji Mitra (talk) 04:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Both of these pages are presently empty, so there's nothing to review. My recollection is that there was no encyclopaedic content, and no reliable secondary sources. --AndrewHowse (talk) 12:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Both these pages were deleted, so its empty. Even I have added {{hangon}} on the top of LesTout.com and leave a note on the article's talk page which was again get deleted. Regarding encyclopaedic content, looking at List_of_social_networking_websites we found that the content is quite well prepared but we will further work on it to make it better. Any suggestion will be much appreciated. Thanks.--Shivaji Mitra (talk) 15:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Special Investigations Unit

How do my edits "advertise". This page is not to advertise, it is to inform. There is not a great deal of information published on the SIU that is not published by the SIU. The SIU investigates cases where a member of the public has been seriously injured, killed or sexually asaulted when involved with the police. They are not "looking for business". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 55Sarah55 (talk • contribs)

Re: Template:German title

Hello Andrew, thank you for the note;

I am unsure that either page is the right link for the title template. Herzog (name) has the incorrect name even given its content. I personally think it should be delinked from the template, since it links to "duke" anyway and that is the meaning of the word. Charles 18:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

It is easy to undo a redirect. I noticed the problem with the template though, the links are automatically generated based on what the title used is. I don't think there is any way to undo it. Charles 18:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Daynal Institute Press

Hello AndrewHowse:

I am writing here to request the opportunity to discuss with you the prospects of resubmitting a stub about the publisher of Timothy Wyllie's newest work entitled The Helianx Proposition. After reviewing other such stubs, it would appear that I have a better sense of what is sought for these small entries that can, nonetheless, offer the reader information that enhances the merits of other articles. Is this something that would be done best here on your talk page or perhaps via email?

Gratefully,

Rob Davis

Hi Daynal, Happy to discuss a new submission. Please be sure to read Wikipedia's policies on notability and verifiability, and then the best thing might be to start your new page at User:Daynal/sandbox. You can then move it into mainspace when ready. --AndrewHowse (talk) 12:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

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Hello Andrew:

I am grateful for your willingness to have a discussion!

The policies on notability and verifiability will be re-read along with a range of articles the policy governs to understand how the literal theory functions dynamically. After composing a new article, I would appreciate your review prior to any consideration of moving it to the mainspace.

Thanks,

Rob --Daynal (talk) 16:48, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. The best thing might be to put a note on my talk page with a link to the new article, when you're ready. No rush, of course. --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

--Daynal (talk) 03:02, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Andrew:

When I attempted to follow your instructions, I was greeted again by an automated message indicating that I was not allowed to do the kind of work you recommended in either the sandbox or your talk page. What might you suggest now?

Rob

--Daynal (talk) 18:29, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

FYI: Daynal's account was blocked in accordance with the user name policy (see block message on his page). He was unblocked specifically to allow him to request a name change, which it does not appear that he ever tried to do. However, he continued editing as a single-purpose account, interested only in those subjects which are directly connected to his publishing company, Daynal Institute Press. - CobaltBlueTony™ _talk 18:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Dear AndrewHowse:

I am writing to request clarification of Wikipedia policy governing "Publishing company stubs". After reviewing the Pages in this category consisting of 512 companies, how does Wikipedia distinguish between publicity composed by these organizations the majority of which only cite their official website for information and bona fide articles for readers that may benefit from the opportunity to know more about the publishers and any literature they produce?

Gratefully,

--75.104.157.17 (talk) 12:30, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

fyi: Daynal Institute Press uses "an alternative approach to the corporate model (via) open access, the online distribution of individual articles and academic journals without charge to readers and libraries, and open source publishing, which is participatory group editing, as exemplified by various wiki projects."Alternatives —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.104.157.17 (talk) 13:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Rob, As I think you know, Wikipedia has policies on notability and advertising. Ideally, any page would comply with those policies. It's doubtless true that some pages do and that some pages don't comply, but we don't allow an exception to provide a precedent for another exception. I hope that answers your question. If not, then please provide more details and I'll try to answer. --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Hello Andrew-

After examining forty or so of the 'publishing company stubs' in a somewhat random sampling, it was clear that the exception(s) are those citing anything other than their own internal production. While conflict of interest is of concern in any undertaking at anytime, for 'conflict' to exist, there must be present two or more interests in opposition to at least one of the others such as is commonplace in competitive settings of any kind, be they academic, commercial, ecclesiastical, or otherwise. Where all such interests share a common goal there can be no 'conflict of interest'. The only 'conflict' then is one always present in human evaluation(s) based as these are upon the 'perceived' merits of any given work.

For this reason, in view of the perceptions of questionable 'intent' behind this article, it appears best to withdraw interest in seeing any such stub or article on the Daynal Institute or its Press unless such may arise naturally from the general recognition of its work. It is just such work that is understood to be an organic process unfolding without the more familiar coercive pressures animating so much trade and academic writing that I know is the shared objective of Wikipedia and countless other initiatives that are germinating throughout this world all too hungry for the "genuine article".

Gratefully,

Rob

--75.104.157.17 (talk) 18:57, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

The My Hero Project

I see your point about the media page. Thanks for removing the link. What can I do about the templates at the top of the page? There is one template that says "remove this template after editing" but I cannot figure out how to remove it. Thanks for your help. Roughcopy (talk) 21:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

You are awesome! Thanks for taking that one template off. It looks much better. What should I do about verifying links, etc.? There are still two templates on there and I would like to figure out how to fix the article so it meets the rest of the criteria? Also, isince the internal links are complete, how do we remove the template? Thanks. Roughcopy (talk) 16:26, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Peter May (writer)

Many thanks! It wasn't at all a lecture. I very much appreciate the information. Although the guidelines seem obvious, they can be a bit confusing for people who are new to the whole thing. There's so much to take on board.

I take your point about the possible conflict of interest. It was only after I created an account in all innocence that I discovered that the Wiki advice to keep your identity secret. I think perhaps I chose the wrong username.

But Peter May really does deserve an article. He's an award-winning writer, published internationally, and with more than 1000 TV credits, he's one of the most prolific Scottish TV writers. And in my defence I would like to say that I am a professional writer and I took great pains to remain objective. But I take your point. If I can just sort this out, I will refrain from future postings on his article.

The thing is, I've just added a reference section, where I have cited 10 different sources - all online - which back up the material used in the Peter May (writer)article.

Without wishing to pester you, can I ask if you think these are the sort of secondary references which are required? and if so, what can I do next to help to get the article off the "articles lacking sources" lists?

This will be my final contribution to Peter May (writer). But before I sign off, I'd like to sort out the problems I caused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janice.hally (talk • contribs) 14:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Intentional Customer Experience Article

Hi Andrew, thank you for your offer to help me with this article. Per your message, I have put it in the User:Amdpc/Sandbox for you to see. Appreciate your help and suggestions!Amdpc (talk) 18:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)Amdpc

Highwinds Network Group

Good call on the afd - I was going to do the same, but had to head out for a bit. Pastordavid (talk) 19:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Trevor Lyman

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Customer Experience

Andrew, need your help! Thank you for your comments and advice on my previous "Intentional Customer Experience" aritlce. I have worked up a "Customer Experience" article at your suggestion and would like to ask you to take a look at it to see if it meets Wikipedia's requirements and will not be deleted. Also need help with some formatting that I can't seem to get right: 1)Categories - this was not showing in the Preview but does show after hitting "Save". Do you know why two of the categories are in red?

Categories are way down at the bottom when you preview. Weird, but there they are. If they're red then they don't exist (or you mis-typed them!)

2)Footnotes/References - can't seem to get it. Also, it won't let me start footnotes at the beginning (first two footnotes in Paragraphs 1 and 2 are not there) without text disappearing.

There's special markup for reference footnotes. See the Gartner example I reformatted.

3)Why are the Wikipedia internal links "Microsoft" and "business support systems" in red?

[[Microsoft]] works fine; [[Microsoft's]] doesn't. So use [[Microsoft]]'s.

4)Can't get breaks between paragraphs.

Just use regular carriage returns. </br> usually causes more trouble than it solves.

This article is at User: Amdpc/Sandbox. Thanks for your help!Amdpc (talk) 22:38, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello. See the changes I made at your sandbox; use the history tab and compare successive edits if you like. And see my comments after each of your points above. Hope that helps - let me know. --AndrewHowse (talk) 02:33, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

A HUGE thank you for all your help, Andrew! I really appreciate it. This article is now up on Wikipedia...Amdpc (talk) 21:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Meijer

Here is where I don't understand. HRC is cited for the source of Meijer being anti gay. HRC has an agenda for gays, so how is this considered a neutral point of view? I have first hand knowledge of the polices Meijer has in place to protect all employees. In general, the homosexuals are upset because Meijer won't give insurance to homosexuals that are married. Couple of questions:

1. Can I cite myself as a source, having first hand knowledge of the polices protecting all employees from harassment in the workplace?

2. Can I cite Meijer's website as a source if I find where they state such protection exists?

--Howdoyoudoit (talk) 22:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

On the first, no you can't because that's not verifiable. On the second, you can try; it's not a reliable secondary source (it's primary) but it's better than nothing. As to whether or not HRC has an agenda, that's exactly why we try to cite sources, so that a reader can judge for him or herself. --AndrewHowse (talk) 23:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Whatever edit I do has to be bullet proof. Tenpoundhammer appears to enjoy reverting my edits. How does this look:

Meijer is commited to treating all employees with dignity and respect without regard to national origin, sexual orientation, sex, age, disablity, sexual orientation religion, race or any other classification protected under law. Meijer applies this policy to employment related decisions. Meijer is commited to having a harassment free workplace. Team members who feel they have been treated in a discriminatory manner can report the matter pursuant to the dispute resolution procedure, harassment policy, response line, or store director. Current policy prohibits retaliton for submitting such a report. (in the citation I will put www.meijer.com/content/content_leftnav_manual.jsp?pageName=careers_inclusion_policy)

Founder Hendrik Meijer started the chain with a simple philosophy, "I believe everyone deserves to be treated with dignity and respect." (in the citation I will put Thrifty years: The life of Hendrik Meijer by Hank Meijer, Book 1985) --Howdoyoudoit (talk) 23:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, It sounds a bit PR-ish, to be honest. You could say "Meijer has stated their anti-discrmination policy as follows: " and then include your quote, but it comes off as corporate-speak; the Mandy Rice-Davies defence. Oh, and btw, if you have first-hand experience then are you sure you ought to be editing this?? --AndrewHowse (talk) 00:29, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand. It is obvious to me the editor that keeps doing reverts is "pro-gay". The source he cites definately has an agenda for the gays. Additionally, the way it sounds (Meijer came in last) is slanted in that they never mention the numerous companies that didn't even bother respond to the HRC survey. BTW I was fired from Meijer. I hardly think I'm partial to them. I know this article is not an accurate representation of how Meijer treats employees. --Howdoyoudoit (talk) 11:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Please be careful about assuming you know a particular editor's motivation. And remember, the standard here is verifiability, not "truth"; if you can find a verifiable counterpoint then that's a good candidate to include. But if it's just "what I know" then it won't stand up to verifiability. --AndrewHowse (talk) 13:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate your time and assistance. --Howdoyoudoit (talk) 13:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Creating new page

I am in the process of creating an article. I feel a bit overwhelmed but I'm plugging along. Can you help me out, how do I create the citation section? I don't expect you to hold my hand on this one, but if you could direct me to the area explaining this it would greatly help. Thank you.--Howdoyoudoit (talk) 18:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

You just need to use {{reflist}}. Btw, starting from scratch is much tougher than editing an existing page, so don't feel bad! --AndrewHowse (talk) 18:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Sciatic nerve

Thanks for fixing that ref; I did the reverts in response to a helpme; I should've spotted that error. --  Chzz  ►  21:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Comparison of Subnotebooks

I've moved the page "Comparison of umpcs" to "Comparison of Subnotebooks". You did a good faith edit of the page, adding "ONE A110/120 Brunen IT 7" €199/€279 Linpus Linux VIA C7-M 1GHz Onboard 2Gb/4Gb flash memory 512 Mb" A google search of "Brunen IT linpus" gives me 2 results other than the article. Can you explain what this computer is and provide a reliable source? talk 11:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I've removed this for the time. discuss it on the talk page: Comparison of Subnotebooks#Brunen IT?

Thankspam

Ta for your advice re. disambig. It's a difficult thing to get your head around, and the fact that you can do it 'whichever way you like' doesn't actually help make it easier! But...you live and learn. Cheers! --  Chzz  ►  02:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD

Closed. Perhaps a little quick on the trigger, but we'll see if it winds up at WP:DRV. Pastordavid (talk) 17:24, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Posted new article

Hello Andrew! I've just posted a new article under Customer experience systems. It all seemed to go so smoothly while in my sandbox, and with all I learned from you with my first article, I felt confident about going ahead and posting it in the "real pages." Wanted to ask you if you would take a look at it to be sure you feel it meets Wikipedia requirements and won't be deleted. Thanks so much - and thanks again for all your help! Amdpc (talk) 01:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

My article was deleted

Well, my "Customer Experience Systems" article was deleted. Apparently it was deleted because it was thought to be promoting a company/product. I thought you could say a few words about a company or its product if it were sourced/written about by a third party (?) So I've started over and have put a new "Customer Experience Systems" article in my Sandbox, at User: Amdpc/Sandbox. Could you please take a look and tell me if you feel it meets Wikipedia requirements and will not be deleted? Thank you much! Amdpc (talk) 16:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't seem so bad, although it might help if it mentioned a few other players in the same space. It might be good to have a very high-level overview of the main components too, and perhaps a little less emphasis on how any self-respecting comms service company needs to do this yesterday. I'm exaggerating, of course, but I hope you understand. --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, Andrew! Amdpc (talk) 20:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Abbotsham Road railway station

Thanks for your corrections to this article re MoS. I have changed the blank station from which I work to prevent a repetition and altered the stations done from it. Britmax (talk) 13:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Michael Hill (batsman)

Hi, I've had to nominate this article for speedy deletion, as the player does not meet the criteria for notability under WP:Athlete, which for cricket purposes is someone who has played first-class, List A or Twenty20 cricket. As Hill has not played at any of those levels, he is not notable as far as Wikipedia, and WP:Cricket is concerned. Andrew nixon (talk) 15:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Really? You were compelled to nominate it? How unfortunate. Seriously, captaining the U19s seems to compare favourably to the odd afternoon as twelfth man on a first class side. It's not clear to me that it's improving the encyclopedia to turn the inbound links red here. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Indeed captaining a national Under-19 side does compare favourably with an afternoon as 12th man on a first-class side. But a player who was 12th man on a first-class side would have never played first-class cricket, as 12th men don't count in statistics, so he would also not be notable. As I said on the article's talk page, you may wish to take this up at WP:Cricket and see what my fellow members make of this. Andrew nixon (talk) 15:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Bombardier Challenger 850

Seriously, thanks for finding the Bombardier Challenger 850 page. It's been there for two years now with little work, mosly because it was never linked properly, and I didn't know it even existed. If the page is kept, it probably should be moved to Bombardier Challenger 800, if kept at all. I'll check with WP:AIR for second opinions before doing anything major to the page. - BillCJ (talk) 01:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

CRJ

In some cases, it might be better to give both CRJ pages, the Bombardier CRJ200 and Bombardier CRJ700, especially if it's a list. In other pages, it might be a comparision to other types, and so just linking to the smaller (CRJ200) or larger (CRJ 700) type might be best. A lot of it depends on the context. - BillCJ (talk) 03:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Visual Arts entry

Thank you very much for your speedy reply and advice. I have read the information provided and whilst it was very useful I agree with you that this would be better written by an independant source. Would you be able to do this or refer me to someone who can?

Many thanks AnnaMazek —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annamazek (talk • contribs) 20:42, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

If you have some good online sources that you can identify then I'll take a look. Otherwise, there are places to request articles that are then watched by editors with an interest in that general area; in this case Wikipedia:Requested articles/Culture and fine arts/Visual arts#Visual arts looks like a good place for you to try.--AndrewHowse (talk) 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Andrew..... I have only one source which is my own website..... is it appropriate to give it to you here? I have not encountered any other art or art category that is aimed at actively involving a viewer in a painting by giving a choice of of perspective whilst still retaining the same subject matter.

Many thanks Anna —Preceding unsigned comment added by Annamazek (talk • contribs) 20:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Then I think you're right and there are not yet appropriate sources to support an article on Wikipedia. Still, good luck with your art - perhaps you'll be the subject of a page here soon. Best, --AndrewHowse (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Andrew, one final question would a newspaper article be regarded as an indpendant source, as there is the possibility of this happening with a solo show I am doing this august. Thanks for all your help, I went to the link you provided but was unable to find an appropriate area. If I gather more souces, may I contact you in the future?

Many thanks anna --Annamazek (talk) 21:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

A newspaper article would certainly help. In fact, it would tend to support a page about you more than a page about your type of art. I think we'd need coverage of several different artists producing this kind of work for that latter.

Please let me know what coverage comes along - perhaps at the bottom of this page, not the top? <g> --AndrewHowse (talk) 21:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Media Vision USA

Hi Andrew, I've noticed that my edit about Media Vision usa got deleted for being advertising. This is not for advertising, I just put an information of the company. Actually, this is my first article and I don't know very clearly about what I did wrong even though I read the article about speedily deleted. Will it be considered as non-advertising if i take out external link? I put enough references, though. Please let me know what I should do if I want my article back on the wikipedia.Fresh01a (talk) 22:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, it read like advertising to me and to the admin who deleted it. Perhaps you can leave a message for that admin, User:Toddst1 and ask for a copy of the page to be restored to your user space, say at User:Fresh01a/Sandbox and work on it there. As I recall, there wasn't much emphasis on why the company was notable enough to be in Wikipedia, and much more emphasis on services provided. The latter isn't important here.

If I can help with fixing it up, then please let me know; I'll be glad to do what I can. --AndrewHowse (talk) 00:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your reponse.

I appreciate your looking into the matter I had described on the editor assistance page. Regarding my interactions with User:Rollosmokes regarding previous edits, I indeed did not make clear what my desired outcome is. It it this--I was seeking some feedback for my contention that his reversions of my edits were done in a needlessly aggressive manner and, more importantly, made without sufficient explanation. I feel that he has deleted my additions in an arbitrary manner and not because of lack of documentation or relevance. He has called my edits "unnecessary," "ridiculous," and once said that "The article has been written in this way for some time and there is no reason to change it now." This in my view runs counter to the Wikipedian process of collaboration and consensus. Also it should be known that his reversion of my KCBS-TV edit involved the same two words "flagship station"--East Coast, West Coast, and overall flagships-- that we had sparred over concerning article WCBS-TV. It seemed to me that our earlier debate had been re-joined. Also it may be of note that User: Rollosmokes has also, within hours, reverted edits that I have made to my own talk page; apparently he had added my very user page to his watchlist--this was very disconcerting to me. At any rate, thank you for your interest and consideration. Regards, Lantana11 (talk) 04:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, some of the behaviour you describe is fairly common here. The note below the edit window speaks of "editing mercilessly" and that's no exaggeration. I'm no expert on TV stations so I won't comment on the merits of one position vs another. Rapid response is no surprise; I know I watch my watchlist sometimes to see if I get a response. I also "watch" other editors' talk pages because some editors like to keep conversations in one place - such as this.

Net it looks like two editors having two different but defensible opinions. Discussion is nice, but sometimes it works this way too. Happy editing, --AndrewHowse (talk) 13:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

You have been very helpful

Andrew, thank you for your response and opinions. I'm not as experienced a Wikipedian as many of you and I am glad I have other editors to help me navigate these new waters. It's gratifying to realize that there's this much help available. I've learned a lot. Best regards, Lantana11 (talk) 20:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)Lantana11Lantana11 (talk) 20:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

My pleasure. Happy editing! --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply

Hi there. I've left a response at Template talk:Blanchard Valley Conference. Cheers. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:05, 13 June 2008 (UTC)