Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Jac16888

Jac16888

Voice your opinion (talk page) (32/1/0); Scheduled to end 15:31, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Jac16888 (talk · contribs) - Dear All, I'm pleased to offer up Jac16888 for consideration. A long term account, Jac started editing around March of last year. Very much a content creator Jac has also been highly active in the project space of late. So, as ever, the rationale and headlines;

Main Space

• Around 68% total edits are to the main space - a commited encyclopedia builder.
• Substantial Talk Page entries show a desire to colaborate.
• Realtively large number of template edits.

Project Space

• Substantial input at WP:AFD - not just drive by comments but adding real value and creating discussions
• Around 300 or so deleted edits are due to accurate speedy tagging / PROD's
• Substantial input at WP:ANI and the village pump - Jac is not afraid to get his hands dirty
• A review of talk pages shows less experienced editors asking questions and getting answers - the additional tools will help this even more so.

Editing Tools

• Accurate use of rollback and undo
• Accurate use of Twinkle but with most edits good "old school" editing

House Keeping

• Clean & sensible User Page
• Clean block log
• Sensible signature
• E-mail enabled

Jac16888 declined an immediate nomination a few weeks ago due to other commitments (see here). Jac is in no haste for the tools, and modest and demuring as to wether a request would pass - an excellent attitude to the role. I believe that only a Net Positive will be forthcoming by giving him access to the bit. I hope the community agree with this course of action. - Pedro :  Chat  13:21, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:I accept this nomination, and thank you Pedro--Jac16888 (talk) 15:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

One more thing, since i've heard of it coming up lately, I am currently 20 years old, and writing that makes me feel ancient--Jac16888 (talk) 15:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?

A: If this Rfa passes, i don't intend to immediately throw myself into every possible admin related activity, instead i'm simply going to ease myself into it gently, starting of with the things i'm confident i can do, and as time goes by moving into other areas of adminship;

• Speedy deletion, as Pedro said, i have a considerable number of correct taggings, there have not been to many cases where a speedy tag i have placed has been declined, and from the ones i can remember, many of those were eventually deleted anyway and as an added bonus i plan to set myself an informal rule whereby i will only delete articles that others have tagged(when valid) and tag ones i find myself for other admins, although i won't apply this to obvious cases, i.e. Attacks, vandalism and copyvios.
• Checking and deleting expired prods, and closing Afds, which as i understand it, the only task for an administrator is to gauge which way the consensus goes and act accordingly, starting of with the more clear-cut nom's.
• I will also try to be active at WP:AIV. Although i have not used that page a significant amount, its mostly because the vandals i come across are not often committed, just ones who make one or two bad edits then never come back, although i try to keep tabs on them anyway, checking their contribs regularly for a few weeks after.
• Finally, i hope to remain active at AN/I and AN, that won't change whichever way this goes, although it would be nice to have an increased ability to help.

2. What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?

A: Unfortunately, I have no really significant contributions i.e. FA/GA's, hopefully i'll be able to change this sometime soon, i have a few ideas up my sleeve. As for my best contributions, i have none that stand out in particular, instead, i'm simply proud of the time i've spent on wikipedia, i feel that i have in general been a net gain for the 'pedia, i've done a fair amount of work in cleanup, tidying and improving articles to just to get them to a decent level. I'm also quite proud of some of the work i've doing with newer editors, helping them to improve their articles by talking through it with them rather than simply jumping in and doing it for them, i feel that helping them do it themselves will help their confidence here and hopefully convince them to stay on and do more good, the most recent example of this is the work i'm doing here Nicole Lai.

3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?

A: As anyone here will no doubt soon discover i was at one point fairly deeply into the whole "TTN/fiction" thing that caused so much drama across wikipedia, and yes, once upon a time i was dead against everything the so-called "deletionist cabal" were doing. However i dealt with this simply by stepping back from it, and trying to work out compromises, working to get the two "sides" to work together. I do however feel that i have shown myself to be able to see past my own likes/dislikes and work with them, particularly User:Eusebeus, with whom i managed to negotiate something of a truce, and i believe that edits such as these, [1],[2], [3], show that i'm willing to make edits that need to be done regardless of how i feel about it.

As for other disputes, none especially come to mind, i've generally learnt to avoid major conflicts, and i find that the more recent ones have come to amicable conclusions

Optional question from User:Jac16888

4.Why do you have only one image upload and so few edits in Image space

A: I'm asking myself this because i'll be surprised if it doesn't come up. Yes i do have barely any edits in the imagespace, to date the only image i've uploaded was this Image:Aspire Sculpture Artwork - Nottingham.jpg (since moved to commons) which took me several hours to understand and sort through organizing the copyright OTRS stuff for it. The reasoning behind this is that i simply cannot comprehend all the copyright policies we have going on, it seems like a lot of technical mumbjo jumbo to me. Perhaps someday i'll have a spare few days and force myself to learn it all, but in the meantime i simply intend to avoid that area of wikipedia, if i don't touch it, i can't break anything. Hopefully you won't think any less of me for this

Question from Stifle

5. Under what circumstances may a non-free image of a living person be used on Wikipedia?

A.As i said above, i have little to no understanding of the image policies, although from a quick look at WP:Nonfree, i can say that they shouldn't be, unless it is a person who is notable for their appearance, who is no longer in the public sphere, and the only images that illustrate the person properly as they were at the time they were active are non-free. To give what i think is a valid example, sort of, If Gene Simmons(first thing that came to mind, no idea why) had retired 20 years ago, and the only photo of him in his Kiss outfit and make up was non-free, it would be acceptable. Hope that's right

General comments

• See Jac16888's edit summary usage with mathbot's tool. For the edit count, see the talk page.

• Links for Jac16888: Jac16888 (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi)

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Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/Jac16888 before commenting.

Discussion

Support

1. Support As nom. Even if I now feel very, very old :) Pedro :  Chat  15:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
2. Support A bit on the old side, but ok. MBisanz ^talk 15:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
3. Support I like the initial decline for the tools, as well as the work with deletions. Very valuable in that area and can be trusted with admin.--Banime (talk) 16:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

   Sorry, I forgot to make an an age joke. --Banime (talk) 16:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

4. Support. Recent assistance on a "major" rewrite of a list specific set of guidelines as well as as stepping into an Edit War shows Jac16888 to be helpful and neutral. (Guess with age comes wisdom huh?) Soundvisions1 (talk) 16:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
5. naerii 16:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
6. Support - Not power hungry, not seen them around but from what I can tell they would be a net positive for Wikipedia. — neuro^(talk) 17:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
7. Oppose, is too old. Seriously, though, he should be fine. –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 17:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
8. Support - Per Pedro's nom. User looks a.o.k. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 17:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
9. Support Per nom. Good user. —αἰτίας •discussion• 17:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
10. Support per nom. Cosmic Latte (talk) 18:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
11. Support I give credit to the nom for pointing out all those facts, it saved me some time, anyway, looks good. Good luck! America69 (talk) 19:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
12. Best of luck. — ceranthor ^(strike) 19:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
13. Support as per above comments Booksworm ^{Do you speak Orange?} 20:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC) (Could someone explain the relevance of the Image upload question? I do not quite understand the connection

    Do you mean question 4? If so, i asked myself that, so that i could give an explanation for my lack of image edits--Jac16888 (talk) 21:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

14. Oppose - too old :P Garden. 21:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

    No way that joke has been done... meh, I think he'll be a good admin. Garden. 21:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

15. Support has over 4000 mainspace edits.As per track see no chance of misuse of tools.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 21:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
16. Strong Support - After examining the user's talk page and contributes; And the full examination from the Interiot's 'Wannabe Kate' Tool and from the SQL's Tools [4]. — Orion11M87 (talk) 22:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
17. Support Why not? :) Looks good to me! II MusLiM HyBRiD II 22:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
18. Support I trust him. rootology (C)(T) 22:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
19. Support I usually trust Pedro, anyways. Good luck! SWik78 (talk • contribs) 23:52, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
20. Support, I very much trust the nom. RockManQ ^(talk) 00:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
21. Support - Jac, don't be humble about your contribution history. I've gone all the way through it and you're an excellent wikipedian. By the way, I am an administrator and I know nothing about image policies either, and there's nothing wrong with that, because I do hardly any work with images. You clearly understand the policies that apply to the areas you work in. Incidentally, my understanding of current policies is that list-type articles are allowed to contain redlinks, because they encourage others to create articles to turn the redlinks blue. If the redlinks bother you, you can link it to something else. Have a look at my articles Agro- or Aggi for some examples. See how I have no redlinks, but there is a link on every line despite some of the topics not having an article? - Richard Cavell (talk) 00:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
22. Support: I see absolutely no reason not to support. Tcrow777 ^Talk 00:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
23. Support There is plenty of reason to support. It has just all been said already. Good to see another speedy-deletion-willing candidate. I experienced in my RfA to be opposed because I said I wanted to handle this as it was considered an "easy task" but with days such as today, where there are more than 600(!) requests for speedy deletions, I am glad of anyone willing to help. And much more so, if the person in question is shown to be as competent as this candidate. SoWhy 10:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
24. Support You'll make a fine admin, no worries here. You'd better start growing that beard ;) Nancy ^talk 12:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
25. Support. Per nom and positive contributions to this project. Cirt (talk) 13:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
26. Support - good contributions to the project. Caulde 16:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
27. Support- Looks good to me.CMJMEM (talk) 17:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
28. Support Old fogeys are much more calm and useful than the young idealistsGreat candidate, lots of contribs, why the hell not?SpecialK(KoЯn flakes) 18:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
29. Support I can spot a Pedro nom from a mile away. :) GlassCobra 20:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

    :) Pedro :  Chat  20:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

30. Support I was swayed by how Jac16888 responded to Q5. Maxim_(talk) 22:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
31. support Stifle raises an interesting point but since the user does not intend to do image work it is not a serious concern. JoshuaZ (talk) 03:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
32. Weak Support lack of image policy knowledge concerns me, but not enough to make me oppose an otherwise wonderful candidate. Erik the Red 2 ~~~~ 03:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
33. SupportSeems to be a perfect candidate, stay away from our image policy if you don't understand it until you do, also per my RfA criteria Foxy Loxy ^Pounce! 08:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
34. Support, will be fine. He's said he'll stay away from images til he learns more; that'll do. No reason to presume he wouldn't be able to gen up on image policy if he wanted to. fish&karate 10:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
35. I agree with Pedro's answer to Stifle as well as Jac16888's frankness. Vishnava _talk 12:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Hate to be the first one, but knowledge of image policy is quite important for admins nowadays. Stifle (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

   I do agree image policy is becoming ever more important these day, and respect to the candidate for "putting his hands up" that he is weak in this area (although I will be the first to say that I am too). What impressed me in the answer to your question was that he could identify where to go (in this case the relevant page being WP:NONFREE) to find out answers. I don't think every admin needs to know every bit of policy and guideline. What they do need to know is where to find out the information, and how to act (or not act) accordingly. Just my thoughts, not badgering. Pedro :  Chat  14:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

   Once s/he becomes the sysop, s/he will know the image polices as accordingly; and image polices are not required for RfA, nor are needed if never s/he doesn't work on images. Like I said, as others have, s/he will probably learn them fluently once admin. — Orion11M87 (talk) 15:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

   My only comment here is that the first statement isn't necessarily true. — CharlotteWebb 22:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

   That I feel old? Trust me, I do. Pedro :  Chat  23:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

   Sorry, I was replying to Orion11M87. — CharlotteWebb 03:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Neutral