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Vandalism or not Vandalism?this reveted page is a contraversial thing is listing her films vandalism? or is it too explict to put on. - fonzy

ii loked at the previous older version, and i can "guess" that if more are aded it is too explict. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.7.108.113 (talkcontribs) 14:55, 2 December 2002 (UTC)[reply]

Asia is now retired. 6 February 2004 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.149.235.254 (talkcontribs) 15:17, 6 February 2004 (UTC)[reply]

According to her website, she's sort of "unretired" now, although she's doing producing and directing more than performing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrathchild-K (talkcontribs) 17:30, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

She made her own site

...and it looks like the site I made on geocities when I was in seventh grade. Hilarious. --Smooth Henry 05:17, Feb 6, 2005 (UTC)

Some ass keeps reverting my addition that her self-made webpages return hundreds of errors upon W3C markup validation. I'm sick of reverting it back, and I don't want this to turn into an edit conflict for something so trivial. Regardless of whether you think it should belong in the article, as the Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, it wouldn't hurt to have too much information, especially factual, relevant information supported by external sources. --Markl222 Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)
Please try to behave and don't call a fellow wikipedian for "ass". Regarding the number of W3C errors on her website: I don't think it belongs in an article about an adult actress just as I don't think it belongs in articles on lots of other people and websites. You probably know that almost all websites (at least the majority) will return lots of errors of this kind, so it is not anything special. And by mentioning it in this article you will give the reader who don't know about this stuff the impression that Asia Carrera is just an ignorant fool, while it's really not a big deal. Try running it on www.yahoo.com, for instance, or cnn.com Shanes 08:28, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I heard rumors that Asia Carrera designed cnn.com herself. Is that true? --Smooth Henry 22:29, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

Umm. . .The Medal of Freedom? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.151.21.218 (talkcontribs) 16:55, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No, I guess not. Neither [1] nor [2] list her. Taking it out. Al 21:30, August 25, 2005 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrathchild-K (talkcontribs) 17:30, 25 August 2005 (UTC) (not User:Aeverett[reply]

Japanese

if her dad is japanese, why is her surname stenhauser? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doriandixon (talkcontribs) 07:06, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

because it's quite POSSIBLE her parents were not married and she took her mother's maiden name .... or maybe they divorced and she took her mother's maiden ... or any number of possible reasons.
Does it really matter?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.142.149.157 (talkcontribs) 16:46, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It's curious, because on her site she talks about how strict and traditional both of her parents were. As for whether it "matters"...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.227.65 (talkcontribs) 20:07, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
her father was adopted, this is why he has a Western last name. it's not her mother's maiden name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.118.106.138 (talkcontribs) 17:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
another possibility. her dad is german, mum is japanese — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doriandixon (talkcontribs) 19:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
No, it says right on her site that her father is Japanese and her mother is German. http://asiacarrera.com/bio2.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.227.65 (talkcontribs) 16:00, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
and we all know that everything that comes from websites is 100% true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doriandixon (talkcontribs) 04:26, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Her dad was adopted by an American soldier after WW II and he was raised here, hence the name.

IQ Claims

She claims to have had her IQ tested at 155 ... and is a member of Mensa, the only one to have worked as an adult actress.

I find claim to be highly suspect. While I'm more than ready to grant that she is remarkably intelligent, quite possibly smart enough to be in Mensa, an IQ of 155 (156 in the linked article) is astronomically high; so high in fact that would make her considerably more intelligent than the overwhelming majority of Mensa members--Mensa membership begins at IQ 130. Moreover it is extremely difficult to test IQs accurately over 150, making a 156 claim highly questionable.
What I think is quite probable is that she has scored 156 on an online "IQ test" or one printed in a magazine, which is of course not what is considered a legitimate IQ test in the scientific community. If this is true, however, then her claim of Mensa membership must be called into question since they have strict standards on which tests are acceptable.
However since the claims presented in the article have an external source and I only have doubts about the extreme unlikelihood of the claim (especially given that it has been known for even mainstream actresses such as Sharon Stone to lie about being Mensa members), I don't know what changes can be made. But I did want to voice my doubts about the article's claims (and her presence on List of Mensa International members). --Marlow4 21:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
We're an encyclopedia and should only state documented things. Regarding the 155 IQ, I believe we're safe since the "She claims to have had" is acurate (she claims it on her website (or 156, should maybe change it)). And if anyone wants to question her claim we'd need to come up with an authorative source questioning it. (You or me questioning it is not enough (original research)). But I think the "She claims" thing is fine and can stay. Whether or not she is a member of Mensa is hard to document. I'm tempted to include it under the "claim" word here too, which is true and then we wouldn't need to document it further.
About the List of Mensa International members, I didn't know about it and I'm tempted to put the whole list up for deletion or renaming. I seriously doubt it's possible to document the membership of most of the people listed there. So many lists like this have been rejected on afd since they are mostly based on rumours and undocumented heresay. Either rename it to "List of people claimed to be Mensa-members" or police a strict "documentation needed" to have anyone included. But that debate is offtopic here, run it on talk:List of Mensa International members, and/or just put it up for deletion. Shanes 21:53, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Good advice; as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Mensa International members the list in question was deleted. --Marlow4 09:10, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
As an FYI, the American Mensa magazine sometime last year (I no longer have the issue) included a list of famous Mensans, including Asia Carrera. Also, the score of an IQ is only relevant if you know the scale. The 98th percentile on the Stanford Binet test may be around 131 or so, but on a different test (and scale) the 98th percentile maybe 150. Stating you have an IQ of XYZ is irrelevant if you do not qualify it with the scale. Dbnull 22:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Arguing about which IQ test gives the most accurate measure of intelligence is about as sensible as arguing about which version of phrenology is most reliable -- GWO

If Asia Carrera's IQ is 155 then I am Albert Einstein. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblysoaps (talkcontribs) 20:01, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stuyvesant High School

Does anyone out there remember Jessica Steinhauser from Stuyvesant? If so, was she one of the students who really lived in New Jersey but used a fake address to get themselves admitted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.151.73.226 (talkcontribs) 19:29, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Mensa membership?

Several comments on the Mensa membership thread of this discussion...

I was once a Mensa member myself, and I know from having met and partied with many othe Mensans that Mensa is a group of people who know how to take an IQ test. That is about all they have in common. There are highly knowledgeable technical people as well as those whose VCRs flash 12:00 (the older ones, before they set the time automatically). So it would not surprise me that Ms. Carrera is indeed a Mensa member, nor would it surprise me that she might not be expert at building a Web site.

Also, anyone who is a Mensa member is entitled to the name and address of any other Mensa member. (I asked for Geena Davis's information when I wrote an essay about an article in which she mentioned her Mensa membership. I wanted to send her a copy.) So, maybe a member can ask for her information if only to confirm that she is in fact a member. You will probably just get an agent's address, as I did for Ms. Davis, but at least it can be verified.

Thanks for letting me put my two cents in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.62.107.57 (talkcontribs) 11:39, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that MENSA was like the Mafia, you join and you can't get out. This (anonymous) poster is indeed an anomoly. :) Hey, you know, maybe you should re-join and obtain the information on whether Asia truly is/was a member of MENSA. Take one for the team, dude! -- Jalabi99 04:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable sources?

I have no way of knowing if the biographical data in this article are true, and in fact, I have doubts about most of it. I've put up a "disputed" template until someone can find some reliable sources. Erik the Rude 22:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well the Unreal skins info is easy to validate: just check megabitchgoddess.com where Asia has the various skins she's created available. Tabercil 23:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to see a citation for the Stuyvesant item. I just checked her official web site, and it says:

Attended performing arts high school (emphasis on instrumental music and visual arts), National Merit Scholarship Winner (for 1440 on SAT's), and Garden State Scholar (for nerdly grades).

Given all the other proper nouns, I assume "performing arts high school" doesn't mean NYC's Performing Arts High School, and it certainly doesn't mean Stuyvesant (math/science, on the other hand ...). Also you can't get a Garden State Scholarship from a school outside NJ. RossPatterson 01:09, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the biographical information matches Carrera's website (except the Stuyvesant item). If you're accusing her of lying about her background, you should be explicit about that, including the items in question. As to the Mensa claim, it's there too, and short of asking a Mensan to check it out, I don't believe you can find out. RossPatterson 01:14, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]