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IMPORTANT NOTICE: Please do not use rumors and alleged reports as an excuse to update a team's roster. If you want to update a team's roster, please check the Spurs roster on their official website [www.nba.com/spurs] for news and changes. This way, team roster information is kept official and up-to-date.Dknights411 18:40, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Sources

How come this article doesn't have more sources like a lot of the other Wikipedia sports articles like Wayne Gretzky? Aaron Bowen 18:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No answers? Aaron Bowen 22:35, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Massive changes

I've reverted a massive change to the article applied by an anonymous user (71.41.180.99). Many of the changes were added without sourcing. Please propose such changes that will dramatically alter the article here before applying them. Clipper471 11:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

San Antonio Gunslingers?

Is there any documentation that shows that was supposed to be the original name for the Spurs in San Antonio? I never knew that and it seems all made up. DandyDan2007 23:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced

I added an unsourced tag this article needs more inline citations, see the Toronto Raptors article for an example of a well sourced article. Tayquan ^holla_{Hard work} 00:00, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

Merge and redirect. Clipper471 20:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

merge - I agree, the other article is unsubstantial. --MJHankel 00:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge If someone ever wants to expand the history of the Gunslingers franchise they can expand it and create a separate article. Tayquan ^holla_{My work} 17:17, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge Its been a month, merge. --Know pedia 14:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

San Antonio as only 37th biggest market?

You guys sure about this? SA's population has increased massively in recent years and they're the 7th biggest city in the USA. Of course, they have few suburbs and are not joined to another large city like Dallas/Ft.Worth are so their MSA is not nearly the 7th largest, but according to the SA wikipedia page, as of '05 they were still 29th and probably have moved up/will move up...I realize there are differences between "media market size," NSA population, city size, etc, and probably even different ways to define "media market size," so I'll let you guys make the call. -Thermal0xidizer

Those figures are correct. The San Antonio/Del Rio Designated Market Area (DMA) is currently (2006-07) ranked 37th largest in the nation as defined by Nielsen Media Research and the San Antonio MSA is the 29th largest.

The DMA ranking is based on population within a geographic region designated for that market. Some DMA's include large geographic areas with little poplulation and in some cases they cross state lines.

Given those variables, individual city population and metropolitan area population rankings rarely correlate with a DMA ranking. For example, Houston is the 4th largest city in the country and the Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown MSA is the 6th largest, but is the 10th largest DMA. By the way the Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington MSA is the fourth largest in the nation and is the 6th largest DMA.

I hope that clears thing up.IceBRG 22:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Table colours

Should the table colours be silver on black, or black and silver? Currently the {{… NBA Champions}} templates use the latter, but the other tables use the former. I think silver and black is more appropriate because on their logo, SPURS is black on silver while SAN ANTONIO is white on black. —LOL 00:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Spurs road uniform and home court color scheme emphasizes black more than silver. The current scheme fits better than the proposed one and should therefore stay IMHO. Dknights411 01:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the uniforms use black more than silver, but I’m still wondering if they should determine the colours on the article. In addition to the logo, the Spurs website uses mostly a silver background and black text. —LOL 01:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that's the Spurs special playoff section that you see first off right now. If you find the actual home page, it fits more of the predominantly black scheme. Dknights411

After viewing other teams’ sites, I didn’t expect the playoffs section to be much different from the index. I’m guessing now that the {{… NBA Champions}} templates should be changed to silver on black for consistency. —LOL 20:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's a big problem with the NBA Champions templates. Whoever created them made it so that the text color couldn't be changed so easily. I'll try to fix it, through. Dknights411 20:32, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to change it to silver on black, but I can’t override the colour of the links. I put it here because it may be difficult to read the links on a black background. What do you think? —LOL 20:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Future outlook

Isn't the future outlook section kind of crystal ballish? I mean I don't think it really belongs in an encyclopedia. Marcus Taylor 17:40, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm kinda 50/50 about it myself. Although it does mention that Tim, Manu, and Tony are all under contract till at least 2010 I beleive. But I'm not entirely sure on my own judgement about this. Dknights411 18:58, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Couldn't the contract status of those players be mentioned in the text somewhere and the section removed? Marcus Taylor 01:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see if I can think of a way to do this. Marcus Taylor 12:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The author of this section makes the common mistake of confusing salary cap number with payroll. — 24.21.100.212

I'll work on it tomorrow. Marcus Taylor 08:16, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed 2007 June 26

People need to refrain from adding information to the records section until it actually happens! vertigo315 11:57 14, June 2007

Update Stats to reflect the 2007 season

The stats need to be updated in the table to reflect the 2006-07 season. Miranda 03:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

world champions

The champions of the NBA are not world champions208.114.167.95 04:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why, but the NBA regularly uses "World Champions", despite being an obvious misnomer. It's been that way since the beginning. Why? I don't know. Dknights411 04:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The title, I think, the NBA uses is "NBA World Champions" which literally speaking is correct. 75.38.51.224 04:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And, there is the fact that the NBA is, like it or not, the most prestigious basketball league of the world. like the Wimbledon of Tennis. Congradz San Antonioooo! Keep on sweeepin baby!!--Zereshk 06:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reputation

This section should have a more inclusive and balanced history. For example, there is no mention of the "Charmin" era.

New Era not so new any more

I'm thinking we need a new section title for what is currently titled "A new era (1997-present)". An era that's a decade old now is really not so new, IMHO. In keeping with the lightly humorous nature of the Robinson Era section title, I was thinking of what could be done with Duncan's name. The obvious one that comes to mind is something like "Slam Duncan (1997-present)". It's simple, it made a basketball pun off of Duncan's name, though a fairly obvious one, but it would give IMHO a nice theme to the current section. Anyone have any other ideas? Or think that the current section title is fine as it is? - TexasAndroid 20:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried using titles like "the Duncan era" or the championship era, but I kepp getting rv'd. I still have a few ideas though. Dknights411 20:45, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Part of why I came in here first. If we can get a consensous here on talk first, it's easier to get it to stick on the page itself. - TexasAndroid 20:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest something like "Twin-Tower Era" (not sure the spelling). Duncan era is not quite right because he still plays. -- Lerdsuwa 14:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds good. Chris! _{my talk} 19:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Spurs/Suns series

I see no reason I can't add that many people did consider the series the de facto NBA Finals. There is no source cited for it being "controversial," but that's included.

I could have cited a hundred sources when the series was being played and right before. Do I have to order tapes of ESPN for that week?

There are many sentences on wikipedia that aren't cited to anything and are far less well-known statements.Theknightswhosay 08:04, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 :: I suggest something like "Twin-Tower Era" (not sure the spelling). Duncan era is not quite right because he still plays. -- [[User:Lerdsuwa|Lerdsuwa]] 14:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 ::That sounds good. [[User:Chrishomingtang|Chris!]] <sub>[[User talk:Chrishomingtang|my talk]]</sub> 19:26, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
+==Spurs/Suns series==
+I see no reason I can't add that many people did consider the series the de facto NBA Finals.  There is no source cited for it being "controversial," but that's included.
+I could have cited a hundred sources when the series was being played and right before.  Do I have to order tapes of ESPN for that week?
+There are many sentences on wikipedia that aren't cited to anything and are far less well-known statements.[[User:Theknightswhosay|Theknightswhosay]] 08:04, 29 July 2007 (UTC)