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DYK

On 29 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Down You Go, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:31, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Allosaurus

Hi, Firs;
Thank you very much for having a look at the article! I put an idea on what to do with the typos on the talk page. J. Spencer 23:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd rather not clear the top slot, just because it would feel odd for a mere genus to be tops, but there are at least three topics left for Paleobio (feeding/hunting, social behavior, and brain/senses), plus redoing the lead, plus a pop culture section with some notable appearances for a change, so it probably reaches 80 k in the end. J. Spencer 03:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

76.201.23.223

Apparently, the block failed -- he continued to vandalise after the block. -- azumanga 02:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

User Adam Cuerden improper blocks

I noticed that you posted to User talk:Adam Cuerden about the Dematt block. He has since abusively blocked a new user, which compelled me to post on WP:ANI. Your input is welcome. -Nodekeeper 12:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Adam's block of an apparent sockpuppet was perfectly legitimate. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 14:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

I am far more concerned with Nodekeeper's actions in this instance, frankly.--Filll 15:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

What was wrong with starting a rational discussion on AN/I? Several of Adam's recent admin actions seem questionable (at least, they worry me, as I've said), so a rational discussion of a potential bad block seems reasonable to me. I don't see anything in Nodekeeper's actions which concern me. Firsfron of Ronchester 04:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

You've got mail. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 23:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Responded! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 05:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the help!

Thanks for catching the punctuation error on Jamaican iguana!--Mike Searson 21:07, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Help me obi wan (Mt Gay Rum)

Hi Ed Wright here. I added a bit on Mt Gay Cane to "the" Mt Gay article. I got a note about using an image of the lable without permission. I now have permission. I am clueless....... be nice, about where to put/send it. So, I'll dump it on you with a request for guidance and/or assistance. TIA Ed

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Tense

Hi Firsfron,

Thank you for messaging me, I didn't realise that the show was from the 1950s when I corrected it because I wasn't taking a detailed look at my edits (I was just basically making sure my assisted editing didn't bork up any pages). I can tell you why I changed it though, it's because it's listed in the 2000 television series endings (probably for the NBC version).

I'm not exactly sure if past tense should be used on the article as I've never come across a situation such as this (I was editing pages listed in the 1990-2006 categories, so I never expected to run across any old shows). I won't revert you if you decide to change it back to "was" as it seems like there's a good case to use past tense.

The guideline you're looking for is WP:TENSE I think.

Have a good afternoon!

Matthew 14:19, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Italics

To make italic text, you need to use two ' symbols on each side of it, not one " symbol which gives you "non-italic text". See [1] Gene Nygaard 15:09, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Gene!

As the article explains, "Prodhania" is a nomen nudum: it hasn't yet been formally described, and the name appears in quotation marks until a full description has been made. See here for example, or check a book with lists of dinosaurs in them (Lambert, 1993 for example, has a good one). The List of dinosaurs, a Featured List, includes several dinosaur names which appear in quotes, because they haven't been fully published (names without complete descriptions, images, etc), and are therefore not italicized as a proper generic name would be. You've also added italics to the name of the paper discussing the fossils. This is not correct. An article within a larger work appears in quotation marks; the larger work appears in italics. This is the same format used in Featured Articles Iguanodon, Stegosaurus, Tyrannosaurus, etc, and the format supported by the WP:CITET templates. I'm reverting your changes for now. Best wishes and happy editing, Firsfron of Ronchester 17:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

If you'd like, it's okay by me if you wan to move the discussion from my talk page to the Tree of Life project and ask for comment on it, rather than trying to start all over again. Gene Nygaard 00:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Lambeosaurus

Actually, I just created that template myself only a few hours ago. Obviously, as with any new template, it needs its kinks worked out. --lincalinca 05:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Forgive my ignorance, but can you clarify what you meant by that, when you say "Higher taxo"? Anyway, I'm waiting to hear more feedback about it and will start to pour over adjustment suggestions (I've brought it up at the pump for a wide audience). How would you suggest I implement these changes? Such as:

taxo     = Taxo-group
sub-taxo = Sub taxo-group

Again, sorry for my lack of knowledge when it comes to palaentology, dinosaurs, or even biology and anatomy. I never paid much attention in science classes in these fields. I was much more interested in mathematics and physics (because they were more closely related to music). --lincalinca 05:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I've modified the template to accept both "species" which is the specific species, such as Lambeosaurus, while I also have "highspecies" which is Animalia and such, so that the user can specify a high specimen if necessary which will not italify, while sub-groups (selected simply as "species") will italify. Is that what you were after? --lincalinca 05:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

For the purpose of keeping it simple, what if I just made it "hightax" and keep "species" as it is? I can indicate in the usage page that "species" reers to both genus and species and that "hightax" refers only to Higher Level Taxonomy (though I'd rather leave the specific wording to you, as you're clearly more of an expert in the field than I am). I'll put some basic info, but if you could let me know how it "really" should look, I'd appreciate the help! --lincalinca 06:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Velociraptor fair use

Hi Firsfron, I am pretty sure that image is not fair use as otherwise we could use the depiction of anything in a film or tv programme in an article about that thing. I will consult further. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel 11:11, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, please re-read WP:NFC#10(a) as regards Fair Use images, a copyright holder must be provided, I know many people forget this, myself included, as well as most users I would say. Perhaps I did not use the correct deletion tag, however I could not find a more appropriate one, and I asked at WP:AN but nobody answered and my question was archived. Jackaranga 09:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Rinconsaurus

No problem, :) I also wanted to take up User:J. Spencers hadrosaur jaw diagram but I quikly realised it would take ages and i'm really buisy with Uni work. Got my dissertation to be writting :( Anyway, I'll post the results soon. Steveoc 86 12:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Drake Hogestyn

First, hello again. Second, I'd like your assistance in yet another dispute, this time regarding Drake Hogestyn, aka "John Black" from Days of Our Lives. I made some corrections and removed some redundant links, but CelticGreen continues to revert back. I have commented and explained my changes on hisHER talk page, and heSHE removed my comments, labeling the discussion as "irrelevant". HeShe has accused me of knowing nothing about the character, and even less about being a Wikipedia editor. Please assist? Rollosmokes 06:01, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

IMO the discussion, as I am DONE with it, is irrelevant. If it was relevant, I would still be participating, but as it stands I'M DONE. Do whatever you want, make it look like crap, I don't care, hence why the discussion is irrelevant. I did not delete the conversation, I archived it, as I'm ALLOWED to do. If I'm no longer involved in an issue, and there is a discussion on my talk page, I am completely allowed to archive the discussion (I've asked before). I stand by my opinions of your knowledge of the character and responding to other editors. I left you a message on your talk page, it should have stayed there, not bounced all over between, now THREE talk pages, four if you count my archive page. I don't intend to, I don't want to, and I have to laugh that Rollosmokes says ANOTHER dispute. Obviously he's the one who can't deal with people otherwise it wouldn't be "another" dispute, but then again, it's only his self-perceived dispute. I just wanted the article to align with the soap project but he doesn't and it's too important to him for me to deal with it any longer. The matter is only disputed in Rollosmokes' mind. Lastly, I didn't REVERT squat, I made changes throughout. And I'm a SHE.CelticGreen 21:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

You might want to really look at all the changes I made and all the crap Rollosmokes put back in that shouldn't be there ~ INCLUDING A TRIVIA SECTION that I had incorporated into the article. He took all the changes out just because I made them and he should know trivia sections are not to be in articles if they can be incorporated into the article, which I did. As for the "it's" and "its" I corrected the entire sentence to make it more accurate and like a child that has to have his way, Rollosmokes reverted it just "because he wanted to". No wonder he's had "other disputes" and pages he's worked on look so bad. I've now tagged the article as needing citations, which it does. He wanted it to look like crap, now it's been tagged because it lacks no citations and is the personal property of one editor as he won't allow others to edit it. Have fun. Just clean it up and tell Rollos not to violate my talk page adding this discussion again. I'm done. This is ridiculous and he's being petty.CelticGreen 21:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the article I seen you've sided with Rolo regardless of content of the article. Did you really EVER look at the FINAL changes I made? It really seems you've taken his side rather than looking at the final edits. If not, you need to further explain your actions allowing his horrid edits to stand.CelticGreen 03:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Input requested

Well of course 'prosauropod' is a paraphyletic group (sensu stricto) so I'm assuming you mean any non-sauropod sauropodomorph (very complex...). Well I should have some down-time in the next few days when I'm settling into Cincinnati, so tell me which articles that you think could do with an over-haul and I'll try and have a look at them. Any further queries don't hesitate to ask. Mark t young 08:26, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Editor's Barnstar
		I notice you do good, general work around the place, and make quality edits. Regards, -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 10:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thescelosaurus

You're quite welcome. No real difference with Thescelosaurus; the Anglicized pronunciation has /s/, but people will say /sk/ if they want a "Classical" pronunciation. (They'll usually try giving the vowels their Latin values too.) Since the Classical pron. is easily predictable from the spelling, I took it out. kwami 12:22, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Rollosmokes

I tried to "play nice" and make several changes to the Drake Hogestyn page in accordance to MOS and in neutrality to both CelticGreen and Rollosmokes. Instead, I received aggressive edit summaries and an aggressive reply along with a personal attack on CelticGreen on my talk page along with an accusation of making comments on your talk page (prior to this). I've cleaned up the article, but I would like you to address Rollosmokes as he appears somewhat unreasonable in all of this. I tried to be neutral but the response I received was very aggressive and antagonistic. Could you please address the situation. Thank you. Nice day to you! IrishLass0128 18:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

(sorry, don't mean to keep editing, but I did want to add one thing.) The more I assess the comments by Rollosmokes, the more I find it also a personal act of incivility toward me in the tone and calling me stubborn. If you don't mind, would you also please address that.IrishLass0128 18:28, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm about to throw my hands up in the air and scream that I just don't care...anymore. I saw that IrishLass0128 basically reverted my corrections on the Drake Hogestyn page. But to me, the biggest problem I'm having is that he/she is trying to claim that I am damaging the article and (s)he is the one fixing it. Compare my last revision with IrishLass' earliest from today ([2]) and you'll see what I mean. And this is AFTER I outlined my changes -- and the reasons for them -- in the article's talk page.

And, I will not take back my use of the words "stubborn" and the phrase "do your homework" that got me slapped with an unfair charge of incivility. For starters, I don't think that I was all that harsh. And after seeing how all this is unfolding, my characterization of these particular users are justified as far as I'm concerned. Some people just can't handle the truth. Rollosmokes 16:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your previous help, Firsfron. Due to the repeated attacks, I'm taking this to other admins. Clearly he has stated he will not show good faith and will not discontinue the personal attacks. Thank you for trying. I do appreciate it. I just think at this time, the situation needs to be escalated. IrishLass0128 16:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Back to editing Petey

Join in when you have time!  :) OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 23:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

So, what gets capitalized, what gets italicized? I've got to remember to wikilink, capitalize, italicize, oversize, and stand on my head. I'd rather get drunk. OrangeMarlin ^{Talk• Contributions} 00:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Fangs very much

Now if you had to prioritize the most significant vampire movies - like here from here, which would you choose o buffy-phile? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:31, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you From the apostrophe abuser

Thanks for correcting me, I know better, but my fingers disobey me when I'm typing on my laptop :) yeah I know, excuses, excuses...Cheers--Tallard 05:58, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Shady Grove, Iowa

Why should an 11 line, year old article talking about people building more homes in Shady Grove, Iowa be an external link? Link: http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=967A9F41-A673-7760-7A3DD644B3177A10 Cbogwill 13:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

You are horrified at what I'm doing? How many links are too many? Why doesn't Chicago, Illinois have every credible new article with an interview linked in their external links?

Furthermore, the link provides no more information than is in the article. If anything, shouldn't it be a reference, not an external link?

The basis I removed that link on was item #1 from [[3]]: Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article. Cbogwill 19:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

WP:DABS

Heeeyyyy - can me make one at WP:Birds, and WP: Fungi? How do we go about it? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

I left this note, do I need to tell him anything else? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Allosaurus

Check it out now. J. Spencer 00:32, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Admin coaching

I would like to thank you for being an admin coach of mine and giving me many advice on various aspects of Wikipedia. I would like to announce that Wizardman has nominated me for admin at WP:RFA. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 06:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Parasaurolophus_crest_interior.jpg

Hi, I'm from the German Wikipedia. I like to use this Parasaurolophus picture for our Parasaurolophus article in the German Wikipedia (that is mostly a translation from the english one). I want to ask if I could upload it and the image description into the Wikimedia Commons? Thank you, --Jens Lallensack 22:13, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Destiny of an Emperor

Hello, Firsfron. I noticed your minor change (it's > its) to the Destiny of an Emperor article and thought perhaps you could clear something up for me. I noticed the incorrect grammar when I added the sentence, however, since it's contained within a direct quote, I was unsure whether or not I could correct it. Isn't altering quotes in any way a violation of policy? Gamer Junkie 09:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Gamer Junkie!

Thanks for the head's-up! We should not alter direct quotes, but it was not clear to me that this is how it was spelled in the original; if you add a sentence which has incorrect grammar, add [sic] or [sic] to the incorrect part to let the copyeditor know that it's really the mistake of the source, not Wikipedia. You can read sic for more details. I should mention that the source you're using ("Destiny of an Emperor Walkthrough") isn't a great source, and these sorts of self-published pages are more likely to contain amateurish spelling and grammar: the sorts of pages we want to avoid when sourcing articles. I have adjusted it so the sentence will probably not be corrected again, but watch out for quotes like this, and consider finding quotes which don't make the cited source look amateurish. Hope this helps!  :) Firsfron of Ronchester 10:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Believe me when I tell you that I searched extensively for a far more credible reference to add. The problem is that games like DoaE are so old that authentic reviews don't exist online, only in magazines. So until somebody with a few gaming magazines from the 80s decides to scan a legitimate review onto the web, we're forced to utilise what little we have available. As for quotes, I'll use sic from now on. I'm new to gathering references and I've been using "these" instead. Cheers. Gamer Junkie 10:17, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Yep. When I find a DoaE magazine review, that'll be the first thing I do... when I find one :) Gamer Junkie 10:29, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Civility

Have you thought about warning OM about his incivility? Or are you only on my case? Turtlescrubber 04:21, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I take it that you are only on my case. I would still ask you to warn user about his incivility and ask him to remove his personal attacks. That would deescalate the situation. Only criticizing me is an unfair way to handle this situation. Turtlescrubber 04:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

SO he can call me a troll all he wants. So he can revert every edit of mine that he wants to. So he doesn't have to use the talk page, which I have. He has called me a troll five or six times now. He has removed the pov tag without discussion multiple times. I am not a procreationist religious editor if that is what either of you are thinking. All I care about is sourcing and I am getting the short end of the stick from everybody, and especially from you. As an administrator you should hold yourself to a higher standard than this. I am obviously some kind of troll in your eyes and you should be ashamed of yourself as an administrator of wikipedia. Check the sourcing, it sucks. Check the edit history, it's on my side. Removing a pov tag without discussion by an editor that chose not to engage in an edit war is vandalism. Punishing one editor when allowing another editor to do whatever he wants shows a definite lack of integrity. I am done with all of this and will stop editing that article. I assume that is what everyone wants. Please fix the sourcing on that citation. Please read my comments on the talk page. Please warn OM to be civil and stop calling people trolls. Please remember why you became an admin in the first place. Turtlescrubber 04:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)