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Instructions for using the Keeper-pedia/WikiKeeper as written by TCari

1. Embrace the edit conflict, for happen it will.
2. Leaving a comment for Keeper doesn't mean that it will be Keeper who answers it, although he'll try. See #1. Make new friends you will.
3. Save the drama for your mama. Everyone (mostly) gets along here.
4. If American, you must be a baseball fan. Doesn't matter which team(s) as it's almost guaranteed someone will razz you on it. May apply for all sports
5. As you are probably a talk page stalker, you really should help to improve the page.
6. Feel free to add more instructions/rules here for Keeper-pedia...

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Now that he's (almost) an admin, how 'bout some fun?

Tan has !requested that we help improve his userspace by adding an "appropriate" caption to the picture in the upper right corner of his userpage. Please help Tan become a better editor, by offering suggestions here for his consideration, (keeping in mind that he'll be an administrator within hours, and will likely go block-crazy, batshit-insane with power, mouth foaming, and will be forgiven at ANI for his indef blocks under the banner of "it's my first day")

1. "What do you mean, handcheck?"
2. "Get the fuck off the outside of my car dude!"
3. "If you're taking that picture, which one of us is driving?"
4. "I am the law"
5. "Tan realised that his days as a George Michael [1] tribute act were numbered
6. "Tan, making a tearful return to the place he was conceived".
7. "Here I am, in the back of a cab on my way to Dulles Airport for a five hour flight. I am hungover as hell. I might puke all over this nice dress shirt. I bet all my coworkers totally noticed me and two other partners-in-crime were still drunk at the meeting this morning." Wait, these are supposed to be jokes?
8. "Where to, Miss Daisy?"
9. "Tan gets ready for some drive-by supporting."
10. "Ok, I drive past the store, and you rush in brandishing the duck. Then we'll see who prefers ketchup to catsup."
11. "I know it's directly opposite us on the other side of the road, but this is Los Angeles!"
12. Today, no Spartan dies!
13. Can't you see I'm scowling? Put the fucking camera away.
14. Does it *look* like I'm addressing you, peon?
15. "Of course I care about your problems. I am after all, an admin".

Ya know, the best thing about being an admin isn't the "power" (ha, power) or even the use of the tools. It's not being some part of higher tier - that's a fallacy for sure. It's not having to act like a goddamn fairy anymore ;-) Tan | 39 22:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I got a "new message" bar for this. Do you know how fucking long it took me to find this message? How 'bout using the "edit this section" buttons to the right instead of the "edit this page" on the top. Sheesh. Fairy. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

You best be joking by the way. You best not go rogue on me, I'll block you myself...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Tan, I'd go with #7. That would suck if it happened in real life. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 23:07, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

I never use the "edit section" thing, maybe I should. I honestly thought you usually read the diffs. Anyway, I'm mostly joking, in the fact that I'll always have Wiki's best interests as my #1 priority and won't let you down. However, it means that I don't have to "be good" and please everyone simply so I can pass an RfA. This isn't a commentary on my actions; it's a commentary on how silly some opposes can be. But we already know this, right? Tan | 39 23:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

• Wow, so true. It applies the entire time, and especially when you're at the RfA. People can smear you, make bad faith opposes, etc. and you're not supposed to say a word. Enigma ^message 03:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I knew what you meant. My "you best be joking" was joking as well. And you should use the edit section thing, at least, on talkpages that are f-ing ridiculously convolutedly long. I read the diff, but I wanted the context for it, so I was searching for it on the actual page. And doing an IE search for "Tanthalas" came up zilch because you sign "tan". And searching "tan" brought up too many. Sigh, I know you're not going rogue. And to top it off, I'm absolutely thrilled that Shapiros has decided that the addition that you made above is the most appropriate addition. Had a good laugh at that too. :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

On Firefox I run into that problem occasionally, but there's a match case option. So search "Tan" Enigma ^message 03:01, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

(ec)Found this one yet! Do like James F and have subpages by topic to your talk page, it'll keep the yellow bars down. MBisanz ^talk 23:09, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

The yellow bars have become like a fetish though. I can't live without them, they are my secret pleasure....no subpages for keeper! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

more fun :D Enigma ^message 17:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Quick look

Sorry for the odd edits, but would you mind a look here? _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 20:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

You are wise beyond your years. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Your turn to look. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

one more and I'm off line _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 21:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Already saw it. Later -- Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Both of you might also want to have a look here... – iridescent 21:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops, wasn't. Oh well, I've e-mailed and the issue is out there. I just didn't want to blow it up on either talk page without having a discussion first. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 14:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

replied there.  :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

*poke*

can you take a look at User talk:Xenocidic#Bureacracy at its finest... this and advise ? xenocidic (talk) 12:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Ouch! Why'd you poke me? I'm tellin' mom....With a title like "bureacracy at its finest", I was holding my breath expecting the worst...whew. It's about content! How refreshing! I agree with Commandante - those need some massive pruning/deleting, especially the "unnamed characters". How silly for standalone articles, and completely implausible search terms. The "Catch-22" in all of this is that anyone who hasn't read the book won't find them notable, and anyone who has, because it is a fantastic book, will argue that they are all notable. I don't think a mass AFD is the way to go, too pointy. I think BOLDNESS is the way to go, with a dash of IAR. Before deleting anything though, because it is such a prolificly available and popular book, there are no doubt countless reviews/dissections—probably graduate papers, on the book and the characters. If a few sources can fix the WP:OR problem, perhaps they can be salvaged? I'm talking about the "named characters", not the ridiculous maids and whores and whore's sisters...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 13:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

copying this over to my talk page for his review. thanks =) xenocidic (talk) 13:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Super Poke Can you take a look at this?, oh- I already told mom so.....:) Dusti^SPEAK!! 14:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

a poke for a different topic

• you may have noticed me poking around in User:Keeper76/Rollback, if you don't mind, I'd like to just start subst'ing your template rather than having to pilfer it. so, all you have to do is start substing it rather than transcluding it. ( {{subst:User:Keeper76/Rollback}} ). Transcluding it isn't a good idea anyways, as you see users try to thank you by editing the template. p.s. it auto-signs now. seen? xenocidic (talk) 19:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Genius. Thanks Xeno, I'll update my freqtemps, actually it's been on my list of things to "repair", I knew transclusion wasn't ideal, but I was originally copy/pasting... :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and feel free to pilfer. It isn't mine anyway (and I have no idea who's it is anymore...Acalamari maybe?...hmmm...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

It was bugging me, so I found it. Stolen from User:Malinaccier/Rollback. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

yea, I may just pilfer it, but now I can just transclude it from your page by typing {{subst:User:Keeper76/Rollback|Xenocidic}} (a bit of a mouthful, but I'm trying to keep my subpages to a minimum - may just pilfer it into a top level template or something) I usually get beaten to granting rollback anyways. xenocidic (talk) 20:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I easyfy'd it - {{subst:rfr/granted|Username (optional)}}. Feel free to rollback the changes I made to yours, though it's not necessary. xenocidic (talk) 20:56, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

morning chuckle

another first. Someone who wanted to keep the article asked me not to remove the speedy tags. That's a nice position to be in. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 14:14, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

If that guy got pissed over an edit conflict, I hope he doesn't find this page... Tan | 39 14:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Seriously. I seem to acquire the odd-balls lately. That and escaped socks. On Seesmic they make it just so easy :) _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 15:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Doppelganger

Thank you for fixing that humbug's wagon. It's nice to be considered important enough to be impersonated. You know, I've worked myself up from nothing, to a state of extreme poverty. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 23:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

That idiot's back again, under a slightly different guise, if you feel like zapping him. [2] Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 14:32, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Oops, someone else already got it. :) Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 14:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm too slow I guess. I missed this message up here actually, if your loyal follower pops up again, start a new thread at the bottom, which is where I always start my morning and work my way up. Cheers, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:42, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

No hay problema. Will do. Actually, it happened twice this morning, and User:Wknight94 intercepted it both times. It's probably User:Ron liebman's handiwork. I hadn't heard from him for awhile, and was afraid something had happened to him. Silly me. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 15:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

joining the ranks of the admins

Thanks for your kind words in my successful RfA. Now I’m off to do some fixin'... Pinkville (talk) 00:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Check up

Would you mind keeping an eye on me here? Directly relates to how I might act were I given the tools, thought I'd like review by Keeper (and the rest of the crew if they'd like). Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 13:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I've posted there. :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Appreciated, though I'm still confused as to why the 3 edits that RS1900 made this week would constitute a week long block, or a block at all, for that matter. They were not the obvious disruption of a troll or even close, just evidence of a misguided user trying to figure things out. Then length of time between queries (weeks at a time), makes it hard in my mind to argue any kind of real disruption being caused and I didn't see the block as helpful. I've stated my response to Gwernol on the page, thanks for jumping in there and commenting. For the record, I wouldn't have overturned the block, but I still would look for further explanation on the noticeboard of such a block. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 14:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

It looks like Gwernol is open to a shortening of the block, I'm waiting for one or two more commenters before I do it. I agree, it seems like it's someone that is misunderstood more than simply disruptive (as evidenced by the sporadic nature of his requests). But if he ain't gettin' it, he ain't gettin' it, and having to even weekly tell him "um, no" is a waste of time/energy/resources when there are legitimate block/unblock requests, severe backlogs, etc. I'll shorten it after another agreeable response or two because I agree with you that a week is perhaps a bit long (seeing as he only edits weekly anyway...). I'll keep an eye on it. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Not sure why I got riled up there... I'm usually the last to get involved defending problem accounts, always seems to be a futile path. Today is due date... nothing yet. I'm getting antsy. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 14:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

If it makes you feel any better, you certainly handled yourself with composure and tact. I've seen those "types" of threads get really ugly, twas not the case this time in large part because of your well worded questions/concerns. Also, my sister-in-law went into labor this morning. When you are off and running to the hospital, ping me, I'll throw a "wikibreak" template on your talk/user if you want. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:53, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, good, thanks, I was thinking about that. I'll shoot you a message here to do so. Just waiting for my wife to call, twiddling my thumbs, helping "the project". :) Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 15:06, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello

I think you'll be a little suprised when you visit this page. Dusti^SPEAK!! 14:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

RING!!!! since I can't say ding dong, I had to change the doorbell.....you know what I want :) Dusti^SPEAK!! 15:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

 Done Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Umm HEY!!! LOOK HERE wasn't sure if you would see this or not :)....Dusti^SPEAK!! 16:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

stale RFA

What's the policy on votes that come in after the scheduled end of an RFA? I added a {{closing}} to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Ali'i, but one vote already come in after the scheduled end. xenocidic (talk) 18:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

There isn't really a "policy" that I'm aware of, but generally the 'crats will add the closing template when they are closing it. I've seen RFAs go 3 or 4 hours past the "scheduled end time" because a crat wasn't around. Until a crat looks at it, the !vote should count, but it's probably a moot point, as far as I remember that one really has no chance of passing with or without the last opinion given. And you do realize the "closing" template is for XfDs? They have a different template for "closed RFAs" that make the RFa turn yellow to heed off new !votes. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I was just curious for the future. Should I remove the closing template? xenocidic (talk) 18:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I would. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Moot point. xenocidic (talk) 18:21, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

All smiles. If that had sat a bit longer, I would surmise that some drama-monger would say "why is an admin or another editor" closing this! Unfair! I want a 'crat!!!" or some such goofiness. Back to me dashboard......Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

True 'nuff. Thankye, happy dashboarding. xenocidic (talk) 18:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

re: Congrats on hitting 3000!

Thank you very much! Hopefully I've helped plug some important gaps in the WP:FILM department. Lugnuts (talk) 18:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome, and I'm bluelinking WP:FILM for you, because my talkpage has oodles of talkpage stalkers, maybe one of them is interesting in helping out over there - always good to get fresh blood involved in a W-Proj. cheers, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Stalkers? Where?Gazimoff ^Write_Read 19:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, they're weak in the back.--Koji†Dude ^(C) 19:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, Gazimoff! That was your tenth editor here. You're officially a talk page stalker here (now where'd I put that social networking barnstar... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

:Aggghhh! Little help please with an AfD for an article I created. I find it odd that a user with <10 edits has gone in and raised and AfD... Thanks Lugnuts (talk) 19:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

More DYKS

Hello Keeper... again. I just wanted to say I'v received 2 more DYKS, Pete Young and Coalinga, California earthquake. And I won't be very active the next few months or so. I'll be busy editing somewhere else. -- RyRy5 (talk) 19:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice work, and hope to see you around. Where are you editing? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I'll tell you a little later. I have to go for a bit. Cheers, RyRy5 (talk) 19:29, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Rendering me sleepless. I'm on the edge of my seat. </friendly sarcasm> Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Please don't say "scribblwiki....". I'm curious now too. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

OMG Gwynand, I think you're right though....oh groan, not again, I can't handle another scribblewiki editor....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, it's not scribblewiki <bleh>, it's a different Wikipedia. ;) -- RyRy5 (talk) 19:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hah... I just found it. Yeah, that wikipedia is fine RyRy, although I'm not sure why you want to edit their more than here. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Is it the klingon wikipedia? xenocidic (talk) 19:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

(ec) hmm? You found out? How? I didn't really tell anyone what other Wikipedia I've been contributing too. And no, it's not the klingon Wikipedia (whatever that is :P). -- RyRy5 (talk) 19:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

<-- RyRy, you didnt exactly disguise the new username, and I also thought of why you might be changing and where you would go for that. Also, I was lucky with my first guess. I think I know why you want to change, and I think you should stay here as your primary wikipedia. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:41, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I think I know too. And I didn't really "disguise" the username, I was going to have my user renamed here, but someone has already taken it. :( -- RyRy5 (talk)

Yeah, that was pretty easy =) xenocidic (talk) 19:44, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't care where he goes, as long as it's not scribble...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

(ec)And the new userpage is virtually identical, save one major item, hence the reason I claim to know why you switched. I'm a regular Sherlock Holmes! BTW, can't we just tell Keeper at this point? : )Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 19:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

as for motivation, the comments in the ER pretty much closes the case. xenocidic (talk) 19:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Keeper, take a look at this. :) But I think I will stay there more than here for a while. Gwynand, i don't even know myself why I "switched". -- RyRy5 (talk) 19:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

That's freaky. really freaky. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 19:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I was amazed on how much I was thanked for my work contributions there... -- RyRy5 (talk) 19:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, since you've "outed" yourself, I'll tell you how I found you - simply because I don't think you speak any other languages and that's the only other english wikipedia (heh). and saw your sig with the same font at simple talk. xenocidic (talk) 19:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

<--I think you should contribute wherever you want Ryan. If that means simple, then so be it! Wikipedia (in any version) is supposed to be fun. None of us are getting paid to edit, we do it because we enjoy it on some level. You've had some success here after a rocky start and some goofs, but that's true of every editor. You are welcome to contribute here, and you are welcome to contribute there. If you end up over at Simple most of the time, I'm sure they will appreciate your help there! Good luck wherever you land. (and I'm glad it's not scribble, and I'm glad it's not klingon...:-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 20:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

eh, the klingon wikipedia got shut down anyway. xenocidic (talk) 20:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Thanks Keeper! :) But I'll sometimes come here to review some DYK noms, revert vandalism, and if I feel like it, I'll create an article that I will nominate for DYK. I'll be more active at Simple English though. They basically need more attention then en. Yesterday, there was a big vandal attack and no admins were there to block him, actually, no registered user was there besides me, and I had to cleanup all his mess. That was tiring... :s -- RyRy5 (talk) 20:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Party

Click here. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 19:45, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Erm, is that really, okay to do. A party? -- RyRy5 (talk) 19:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Sure, as long as we are contributing to the mainspace and not focusing on this party and social networking. Some WP:FUN is good in these hot summer months. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 19:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Please be aware of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Cabals. giggy _(:O) 02:02, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Dear god, they managed to get that up to 100k? Ah, the things you miss when you're staring blankly at a screen for days on end protecting the world from the terrorist menace. – iridescent 02:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Hangar9 Sundowner

Hey Keeper, typically I would agree with you to let the Afd run its course. However, the author of the article removed the original tag rather than placing a {hangon} on the piece. Than made a statement on the Mainspace page, which I moved to the discussion page. If there was any claim to Notability made in the article, or proven in a search, I would completely agree with your decision. However, when the piece cannot substantiate any claim, I say Speedy Delete to save the community time in ridding itself of pure Prue Spam. ShoesssS ^Talk 22:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hey Shoesss, I've left a comment on the AFD. Whenever I see a brand new editor removing a db, I usually just assume they have no idea what they're doing and give them a second chance. Readding the speedy tag is technically appropriate, I've done it before myself. But to readd it, and someone prodded it, and someone huggle-afd'ed it, all within minutes, had to seem ridiculous to someone other than me, so I declined the speedy as contested, removed the prod as contested. The article will likely be merged or deleted, (I would prefer merge as their seem to be product reviews - mags, even niche mags, don't review everything, they review those that they think their readers would be interested in, i.e. notable ones) The AFD gives interested editors at least 5 days to give it a crack. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Actually, I am working with the author and another editor to cleanup the company’s piece. From there, it seems like there is agreement all the way around for the article to be merged there. Take care. ShoesssS ^Talk 21:51, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your great nomination (universally acclaimed !), and giving me the opportunity to become an administrator. I look forward to assist the project and its community. Hopefully, our paths will cross again in the future :) Thanks again, Cenarium ^Talk 00:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

You're very welcome, although I "didn't give you the opportunity", merely pointed you out to the community. Your contribs are stellar, and they alone gave you the opportunity. :-) Cheers Cenarium, best of luck with the tools, enjoy them for what they are, I'm sure you'll find them useful. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA. The Rfa was successful with 64 Support and 1 Neutral. None of this would have happened without your support. I would also like to thank my nominator Wizardman and my sensei/co-nom bibliomaniac15--Lenticel (talk) 09:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

On request...

		The Barnstar of Social Networking!
		Congratulations! The best edit summary yet giggy (:O) 14:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Dammit Giggy, now I got two of these things. Before I know it, the award center is gonna give me a barnstar for having the most SN barnstars. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

zing! (Well, it can't if it gets deleted - see MfD.) giggy _(:O) 14:43, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

The barnstar is up for deletion? Or the award center? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Oooh, I just looked, it's the award center...be right back...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Ironically, the image was up for deletion on Commons... giggy _(:O) 14:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Good on ya, Keeper, but I still prefer my ninja star! _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 15:18, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I hate that awards center. Well, hate it in a nice way! It gets thrown in with adoption on the list of "Supposedly good things that actually hurt the project when taking a closer look". Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 15:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh my ninja star isn't from the Awards Center, it was from User:Iridescent in another insane discussion. See my userpage. Award Centers and I do not get along. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 15:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I just dropped a whopper of an oppose there. Wow... can't believe syn maggot tried to speedy close this per snow. Good faith project or not, the problems it is causing can't be ignored. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 15:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I was reading yours while you were typing here. And I answered iMathew's question on the "specifics" section, I think, rather appropriately. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I was gonna try to answer his question too, but I believe many of the opposes directly address it. To sum up my long "delete", basically one of my lines stands out most "However, if newcomers have the chance to come to the project with the ability to develop as editors and help things here, then we shouldn't have these silly centers/programs which encourage volume, quantity, and speed over quality and a simple job well done." That's why I dont feel silly myself needing to vote delete over a seemingly harmless project. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 16:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I guess next, someone has to take a deep breath and go for the mother ship. Anyone want a talkpage full of flames for the next month? – iridescent 16:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Dear lord, one at a time please....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:19, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

See above....Dusti^SPEAK!! 16:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Dusti, because I'm a light mood, and I've wanted to tell you this for a while... I'm fairly positive Keeper has the coaching page on watch and doesn't need a ping (or 2, or 10) here :) Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 16:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, you know, I know he loves those orange message bars :), I'm trying to hit WP:300 here lol. Dusti^SPEAK!! 16:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

<--Tis true, tis watched. I've already commented there for the day, what else did you want me to see that I haven't? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Yo. Champion of social networking (and anyone else here). There's a "School's Out" party at my talk page in 15 minutes! Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 16:44, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

School's been "out" for me for decades. Kinda lost it's novelty. And thanks for the new "title"...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

In honor of school being out for me. Cuz i'm everyone's friend. Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 16:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Haha... based on our contrib histories, I'd say when Keeper and I get out of school every day, we generally get as far away from wikipedia as possible. :) Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 16:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Yup. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 17:02, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

see the hunch articles keep Dusti^SPEAK!! 17:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Some Help

Hey, I saw a few people asking you for favors so I thought I'd be WP:BOLD and tip in. An article I created got AfD'd earlier this week, so I was hoping you could help me back up my Keep (or improve the article). Thanks for the time!--Koji†Dude ^(C) 15:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

You f-in with me? What's with the youtube hidden link? You tryin to rickroll me? I can't see youtube from my work PC, corporate restricted. Give me a link if UR SRS. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

You know, "SRS" is one of those words that gets thrown around alot latley... I don't want to get political. ;-) --Koji†Dude ^(C) 15:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I've got some social networking to do here Koj, do you need my help on an article or not? Keeper's busy! Give me a good link...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Nah, I'm trying to screw with you. I made a bet with my dog that I could do it, so now I owe it a piece of cheese. I did create an article that actually got AfD'd, though, but that was a few weeks ago (I think). It (the article) stood for like, 2 years until it got nommed and the result was merge.--Koji†Dude ^(C) 15:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I had no idea that you'd been here that long, for some reason I thought you were a Class of '07 noob. What's wrong with you? Masochism? Dedication? Insanity? Perserverance? Some other malady? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I choose D: all of the above.--Koji†Dude ^(C) 15:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

If Gwynand posts here...

On Saturday or Sunday, I'll be gone, and Gwynand will be posting here if he needs to Drive Quickly, Yet Safely to the Hospital Hopefully Not at Rush Hour Like Me and My Wife Had To^TM. Gwynand needs this template added to his talkpage once he pings my talk. (...and feel free to preemptively congratulate him or give him bad advice...) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, right. The post will probably be something like "Baby time ahhhhhhhhh", and then I'll be gone. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 16:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm imagining the post more along the lines of "a3o;8rh2onSHIT!!!4qobfrlkavbf.vaekjfg2;234 -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwynand (talk • contribs) ...Feel free to copy paste :-) ...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 17:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I had to use a similar template for when those damned Wasps invaded my back yard in 05, during mating season, coincidentaly right after I started my Farm for Geese, which were also in heat at the time. Weirdest sounds you'll ever hear in your life; the neighbors kept calling me about Disturbing the Peace. I swear I got at least 16 visits from the Police, EPA, Animal Control... call it what you will, I call it an interesting summer.--Koji†Dude ^(C) 22:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply

I replied on my talk page :) - DiligentTerrier (and friends) 17:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Already read it, I'm a watchlister. No worries. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 17:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Non-wiki Wow..

I was reading this article and surprised as such general safety so I went to look up Lakeville] since I had no idea where it was. It doesn't appear to be that far from Minneapolis. Is Minnesota really that safe? I'm in awe _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 17:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

We don't even cross the street mid-block. And that article is creepy, and so is Lakeville. It's one of those towns that's on the "fringe" of the Metro area, not Metro. Mostly oversized, beige homes with 3 car garages pushed out front and riding lawn mowers a-buzzing. I'm in the "old burbs" where the cops are too busy pulling me over for rolling stopsigns and other aggregious blights on civilization. If a cop showed up at my bedroom door, he/she would likely be greeted with my "Old Comiskey Commemorative Bat-Day" home alarm system... Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 17:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I just can't imagine it. I grew up in Rockland County, New York, only about 20 miles from Manhattan but we weren't that Mayberry. In summer we might leave the door unlocked if we were near it but never if we went upstairs or in the backyard, never mind to bed. Once I locked my keys in the car and was panicked that someone would try to steal it. I remember when I went to Oklahoma City and was amazed at friends being able to go through security at the airports because in my flying life, that's never been allowed in the NYC airports. Funny how different places are. Our local cops know where to hide to catch you evil stop sign rollers, the rest of us know where they hide and stop appropriately. I miss bat day...None of the games this year have been give-a-ways. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 17:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Adam's Sandwiches Plus - Speedy Deletion

This article was not "blatant advertisement." I have no connection with Adam or his restaurant in any way; I merely wanted an informative article about the new sandwich joint near my home town. I would have appreciated it if you could have marked aspects of the article that you mistook for advertisement, and I could have rephrased to make it more informative sounding. Please restore my article. It was a first draft, but it certainly doesn't deserve immediate deletion like this. Daverigie (talk) 18:45, 20 June 2008 (UTC) Dave

Hi there, Dave. Do you have any references from independent, reliable sources that explain why Adam's Sandwiches Plus is notable? It isn't even open yet, so I'm sure there are no reviews of their cuisine, but perhaps they've been written about somewhere? Let me know on my talkpage if you have any sources, I'll restore the article in its entirety. Also, please read this. Thanks, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Just a friendly note

No worries. If I took every editorial dispute personally, I'd be a nutcase by now. The issue in re Sinclair is one which is somewhat marginal with regards to keep or delete, and subsequently polarizing. I didn't even consider your list of reasons on a personal level. Anyway, have a good weekend yourself! -- Kendrick7^talk 22:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Pink Lemonade (movie) deletion

Hey, I saw that you deleted Pink Lemonade (movie). Although I'm not at all involved in editing the article - I stumbled on it from the contested speedy deletion list - it doesn't seem right to me, and bite-ish, that this guy's article got tagged within 5 minutes of creation, and then deleted, when the article was obviously a work in progress. Sure, I understand deleting copyright violations and personal attacks on sight, but with A3, you can't expect most users to construct a full draft in user space first. I'd think that new pages still under construction deserve a grace period of at least a few days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TotientDragooned (talk • contribs)

I will be replying on your talkpage shortly, Totient Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:05, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Norrath

Hi. A few months ago, you deleted an article about a fictional location called Norrath. I was one of the contributors to the article, but had forgotten about it, and did not notice the deletion discussion. I feel that the article could be written in such a form as to meet both WP:N and WP:GAMECRUFT, which were the reasons it was deleted. I've never petitioned for recreation or anything like that, so apologies if I've done this wrong. I was wondering if you could make the article available to me to work on in my userspace. Thanks, McJeff (talk) 04:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, McJeff. Keeper is often off-line at the weekend so I've restored it for your use here: User:McJeff/Norrath. I had no problem doing so, and don't imagine Keeper would either since you show a desire to improve it. As you work on the article I recommend you look at WP:N and WP:RS to help shape a re-created article. _{TravellingCari}^{the Busy Bee} 04:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Just checking in, looks like everything's under control! Thanks Cari, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 14:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Creating geo lists

Hi I've made an intital suggestion at the GEOBOT talk page in that it would be an excellent idea to generate a full lists of places in a tabled list. Once this is accomplished we can work through what articles could be started in their own right if there is enough info avilabale. I see it as a solid comprehensive base to build geo content on if we have a full world list organized like this. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography/Bot#Creating lists. Please offer your thoughts thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 14:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts offered. Check! Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL actually there is a town in Iran called Bald I think ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 15:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I wonder if there's a town called Inherently Lazy Procrastination Prone Slightly Overweight, Iran? If you get one named for you, I should get one too :-) Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 15:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)