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Friday the 13th Poster

Hi there. You recently removed the image of the Friday the 13th poster which was released at ComicCon. You said that if ComicCon wanted it released to the public, they'd have done so. ComicCon is a public event, and anything shown there is assumed to be made public. Bloody-Disgusting.com along with other sites and people have posted this image. It's a still image taken on a camera, therefore the person who took the picture has the right to do with it what they will...

Buffy

The Buffy Summers article was making my eyes bleed so I decided to just stick what I've got in my sandbox out on the mainspace. It's still nowhere near finished, but I haven't worked on it in so long, it was just sitting going stale in my userspace. At least this means all that godawful OR is gone. Just letting you know in case there's any backlash from the fanboys and you're interested in voicing your opinion. :P  Paul  730

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So much for being a poverty-stricken student! :P Muchos respect for buying Buffy... how long has it been since you saw it on TV? Season 1 is my least favourite season, it's good for what it is, but with the exception of the excellent finale, the episodes are pretty inconsequential (although I've always had a soft spot for "Out of Mind, Out of Sight"). Season 2 is when the show really hit it's stride and proved what it was capable of. Hope you enjoy Sarah Connor!  Paul  730 01:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

You don't have to get up to change the disc? My god, you lazy bastard. I just use my Xbox 360 as a DVD player, it saves space in my room. Gets a bit annoying sometimes using the controller as a remote but I soldier on. Smallville season 1 ended on a cliffhanger though, I think Buffy was intended as a finite 12 episodes in case they didn't get picked up. They did every season that way, except 6, which ended on a cliffhanger because they were guaranteed another year. Each Angel season always ended on a cliffhanger.  Paul  730 01:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

No, I don't have Xbox live yet. I literally bought my Xbox for GTAIV alone and haven't used it for anything else yet (besides DVDs, obviously). Buffy season 1 and 2 are very "monster of the week", but that doesn't really bother me. It's more that season 1 is so light-hearted and quippy, I prefer the darkness that Angel's turn in season 2 brings to the show. I love each Buffy season for what it is, but season 1 is my least watched. I know what you mean about the MotW formula though, I think it's regarded as more accessible for casual viewers. Russel T. Davies, who writes Doctor Who, says that he loves Buffy and Angel but they are totally inpenetrable for new viewers to get into. Lol, I love that line of Sarah's, it really sums up her character.  Paul  730 01:57, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

What do you make of the new actors? Oh, and how cool is Cromartie? I can't put my finger on it, but he's really cool for some reason.  Paul  730 13:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

What makes you say that? In all honesty, you could be right. Cameron's origins and ultimate agenda are shrouded in mystery.  Paul  730 18:47, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Very interesting reasoning. I found the scene where she eats a crisp and says "I am different" pretty eerie. I'm not sure how far into it you've watched by now, but Cameron displays a lot more "human" behaviour later in the season, sometimes for no real reason. My mum theorised that maybe she wants to a be a human. I've also heard rumours that maybe she was once a human and was turned into a cyborg by Skynet (see also I-950 from the novels). Oh well, they've promised that there will be lots of revelations about Cameron's past in season 2 so I guess we'll just have to wait.  Paul  730 21:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Ew, Cameron being John's daughter is weird and incesty given the percieved sexual tension between them. Although I guess there's already a creepy vibe since she's posing as his sister... good theory though, I haven't heard that one before. There's a strange future-flashback in the episode "Dungeons & Dragons" which may relate to Cameron, and she has a history with Brian Austin Green's character. I have a theory that the reason John is such an effective fighter against the machines in the future is because of his relationships with them in his youth. No one understands the Terminators the way John does, and I think that will help him in the future, "know your enemy" and all that. I don't think John's hair is meant to be "emo", but rather a reference to Edward Furlong's silly fringe. It could be worse, he could have had a mullet like his friend in T2.  Paul  730 23:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Not criticizing John as a person, just saying it'd be a bit freaky to watch. Like, there's a Dawn/Xander relationship potentially on the cards in Buffy, and it's giving some fans the heeby jeebies because they view them as siblings. Not sure how I feel about it myself TBH, we'll see how it goes. Tell me what you think of Terminator when you're done. :)  Paul  730 23:59, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol, you start your comment with "it was good" and then proceed to complain about everything! :P The Cromartie endoskeleton-timp jump thing is a continuity error that no one can explain. I guess there was maybe enough flesh left on him to allow the jump? Or maybe the energy from Sarah's gun messed with the time tech and allowed him to come through by accident. Non Talking Latina Girl is a total mystery to me, I hope we'll see more of her in season 2, same with the school friend of John's. You have to remember that the season was cut short by the writer's strike, so not all plot threads have had time to wrap up yet. I like both Cromarties, I enjoy his deadpan sense of humour, like when he thanks people for their assistance after he kills them. I like that he just looked like Joe Normal, that's what the Terminators were meant to look like - infiltrators - before they cast Arnold. What did you make of the revelation that Derek was Reese's brother? You seemed oblivious to that earlier when you thought he was future John, so I was hoping to keep you unspoiled. I really like Derek, he's obviously not as heroic as the Connors (killing Andy) and that conflict will be fun. What did you think of the scene in the park in the last episode? I didn't like the CG endoskeleton when Cromartie was getting in the bath, it looked kinda crap. Doesn't bother me too much though, hopefully the budget will increase as the show does well.  Paul  730 13:05, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Zythe was telling me that Kyle's age is retconned in the show or something? He and Sarah are younger than they look in the first film, like 19 or 20. I dunno. Cromartie not killing Ellison will be explored into season 2 accoring to this interview. Oh, and the person who ends up building Skynet is some Scottish bird. 'Mon the Scots, we destroy the world, yay! ;) I don't know if you've seen any promos for season 2? Cameron's evil now apparrently. I like the song in this one but you should have a look at the rest. This one is hilarious.  Paul  730 13:38, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, obviously Evil Cam isn't going to stick, but there's some cool clips of Sarah and Derek urging John to kill her and he's all "No, I need her, I can't!!" Wasn't season 1 pretty popular? It's Fox I suppose, don't they like gunning down popular shows out of sheer villainy? I'm hoping Salvation will get people in a Terminator mood and increase ratings.  Paul  730 14:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol, yeah, Willow's hacking skills are pretty convenient. No, it wasn't Chloe's hacking that I found silly, more her Mission: Impossible solo infiltration of Luthorcorp, and the fact that a 14/15/16 year old girl who works for a school paper has "contacts" across the country. So how are you enjoying Buffy? Did you know that Amy the witch from episode 3 is now a fully-fledged supervillian enemy to the Scoobies? She's come so far.  Paul  730 21:42, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

They're drinking soft drinks and coffee. Trust me, "Reptile Boy" in season 2 establishes that Buffy doesn't drink (until that episode). The Bronze does serve alcohol, as seen in later seasons, but the characters don't get served. In season 3, Anya gets IDed and isn't happy about it ("I'm eleven hundred and twenty years old, just give me a frickin' beer!"). Angel won't become a cast regular until season 2 but he has a "centric" episode coming up for you to look forward to. Darla doesn't get any decent characterization until Angel season 2 when they figured out what they wanted to do with her; she's possibly acting like a ditz to attract male high school students, she's into the whole black widow thing. They basically retconned her personality if you really want to know. Xander coins the phrase "Scooby Gang" in season 2.  Paul  730 04:39, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Dunno, maybe the prop guys got confused? Or more likely the Bronze is just a quirky place. They're definitely not drinking, Buffy is a pretty anti-drinking show, they even had a whole episode about the evils of alcohol. It was pretty crap. If you think Darla's original personality doesn't mesh well with her later one, wait until Anya is introduced. In her first appearance, she's totally savvy socially compared to the total autistic person she becomes. This might surprise you, but I kind of agree with you about Xander. He is really prone to jealousy and can be quite unlikable in some episodes. I think it's all in character though, think about it, his parents are abusive alcoholics, his friends pretty much take him for granted (more in the later seasons), and the love of his life would rather be with a demon than him. Kinda explains why he's so bitter. You'd need a full essay to psychoanalyse Xander, but in short, I love him for all his flaws, but you're not wrong about him being annoying sometimes. I remember I didn't like him until "The Pack", when he got turned into a hyena I was like "I miss regular Xander". I think Buffy and Xander have chemistry, but more as siblings/friends than lovers. I think Joss Whedon realised that, because he never made them an official couple like he intended. As far as I know, it was always supposed to be Joe Normal ends up with Superwoman (like in the movie) but audiences loved Angel so much that the story was changed. How can you not love early Cordelia, she's an absolute comedy legend??  Paul  730 13:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but the lesson behind that is "if you drink, you will be raped and beheaded by a giant insect". Not exactly pro-alcohol. "Degenerated into an airhead"??? Explain please. Anya was initially quite socially aware and hostile, but then in season 5, she was more socially uncomfortable and well-meaning. Her role as the "new Cordelia" stemmned from ignorance rather than true bitchiness. And she was never stupid, neither was Cordelia. I can forgive the inconsistencies with her character because they were learning as they went; Anya was never intended to become a main character, Emma Caulfield just impressed them so much. They've got her sussed by season 5, and from then on she's just brilliant. Lol, if you hate the season 1 menu, wait until season 2, you have to sit through a 10 second CGI cutscene to get from page to another (assuming you have the same DVDs as me). I dislike Xander in the season 3 episode "Revelations", that's when he finds out Angel is alive and goes into jealousy overdrive. Buffy empathises with Cordelia because she used to be so similar to her, that's why she's more forgiving of her than Willow and Xander. I just love Cordelia, she totally owns the room. People say she's a bitch but more often than not she's speaking the truth. I love her in the season 1 finale. Oh, and to reply to your comment about Willow not being annoying, I think Alyson Hannigan runs a fine line between cute and annoying sometimes. She usually makes it work, but sometimes I just want to slap her, especially in the early seasons. She's so bloody weak in the early seasons, look out for "Halloween" in season 2, that's when she starts to grow a pair.

P.S., Moloch was messing up the computer systems remember? You saw people reacting to misinformation on their computers, maybe he changed the date on Buffy's file? :P Or maybe the writers just hadn't figured out her exact age yet. Her canon birth date is 1981.  Paul  730 14:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, they just hadn't pefected the character yet. The episode "Selfless" in season 7 (which is one my favourite eps) shows that Anya was always socially inept, even as a human, and it didn't stem from "I'm a demon in a human world" like the Scoobies assumed. I think it's acted in a very endearing way, I love the irony of a 1000 year old ex demon mass murderer, who acts and dresses like housewife from the 1950s. It's just so Buffy. :) I know what you mean about the necklace, I'm trying to think of another example of something like that but one won't come to me... The "I have no breath" thing has been debated furiously amongst Buffy fans for years, and it's something that annoyed me. The generally accepted explanation is that, while vampires don't need to breathe, the process itself produces some kind of substance that is harmful or ineffective to humans. So when Angel said that, he basically meant that he can't produce oxygen. It's total fanwank, but whatever. Who cares about necklaces an CPR science anyway? "Prophecy Girl" is a great episode! I love how Buffy's reaction to her death is just so immature and realistic, I think that scene is my favourite moment in season one. I love it when she starts screaming and throwing books at Giles.  Paul  730 18:47, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, like I said, Anya was basically written around Emma Caulfield, she's so talented. The break-up... wasn't my favourite plot twist but it's not bad. It was chance to explore how Xander views marriage, he's obviously been damaged by his own parents. He just wasn't ready for marriage at that point in his life, IMO. Also, if we're to believe that the fake visions he was shown were created by his own subconscious fears, then he's still hung up on Buffy; in the fake future, it's implied his marriage to Anya fell apart because Buffy died and Xander never got over it. Buffy is, was, and always will be, the love of Xander's life.

Duh, I failed chemistry in school and this is me showing my ignorance. I know we produce carbon dioxide but I kinda thought that had oxygen in it? Like one carbon and two oxygens? No? Whatever, in that case, vampires produce toxic stuff that would harm Buffy if he gave her mouth to mouth. We don't know what happens in that freaky undead physiology of his.

Buffy's theme music playing as she power walks to the library is horrendously cheesy and thankfully never happened again. I'm torn between cringing at it and enjoying it for it's shamelesss cheesiness.

I dislike the idea Xander and Willow getting together. They work better as friends and slapping them together would just ruin that (Friends much?). I tend to prefer platonic relationships in fiction, like I said, I'm not sure how I feel about the potential Dawn/Xander hook up in the comics right now. I hate Xander and Willow's affair in season 3, it felt like such a forced way of getting Cordelia out of the picture so she could appear in Angel. You'd gotten over that whole 'ship in season 2 and dredging it back up was just.. urgh. Although I love Willow's reaction to when Xander loses his virginity to Faith - she takes it in stride and then cries alone in the toilets - that was really sad.  Paul  730 19:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I know what you mean, but it's like, against the laws of natures for two people to be happy together in the Buffyverse. They still have some nice moments in season seven, and never really stop loving each other. I guess it gave them something else to talk about besides how much they love each other? Plus, it allows for that really good Anya episode "Selfless", which is all about her realising she always defines herself by other people, and that she should find her own place in the world (which she does, in the penultimate episode, when she decides she wants to keep fighting for the humans).

Okay, you're totally ruining the suspension of disbelief here! Let's say, that in the wacky supernatural world of the Buffyverse, mouth-to-mouth is like an exchange of life force, and vampires can't do it because they have no lifeforce to give. How's that? :P Let's move on, where are you in season 2?

Dawn was recently turned into a centaur by a mystical STD. Anyway, Xander is supporting her through the ordeal and says that she looks amazing as a centaur. Then, when they're escaping from these demon thing, Dawn is like "you're going have to... ride me". (It's really not as bad as I'm making it sound, it's a comedy subplot). The fandom is rife with Dawnder shipping now but I'm not so sure I even believe that's what's being set up, or how I'd feel about it. I guess I trust Joss to do what's right for the characters. Oh, and Xander is probably like 6 or 7 years older than Dawn.  Paul  730 12:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Ooh, developing a little crush on Dawntaur are we? :P "What's My Line" is pretty good, Bianca Lawson (Kendra) is a terrible actress but very amusing to watch for some reason. She's very quotable.

I'm not sure whether to pick up Smallville season five next time I'm in town, or give it a break for a while. I kind of want to watch Angel season 4, but because I have unwatched Smallville sitting there, I end up watching that instead. I'm nearly finished season four, I'm in the middle of the Lex body split episode, I had to switch it off the other day because I was so tired. Oh, I also bought Superman for All Seasons the other day, it was pretty good but I think it was mostly the artwork that I liked. I love Tim Sale. It was all about a young Superman wondering whether he belongs in Smallville or Metropolis, with narration from Jonathan, Lois, Lex, and Lana.  Paul  730 20:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll tell you when I watch the end of it tonight. If you're looking for a Batman book, get The Long Halloween, and it's sequel. I have Long Halloween but I haven't read it yet. Lol, yeah, Dawn is totally the runner up prize. It's still not set in stone that they'll hook up, Xander's last girlfriend (a Slayer named Renee) only recently died so it might be kind of soon. (Some Xander/Renee panels if you're interested.) And Dawn is Buffy's real sister! That's like saying adopted people aren't really part of the family!  Paul  730 20:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Remember Halloween Nightdance and H30! I'm going to keep plugging those until you buy them because they're so good. Next on the list is The First Death of Laurie Strode and The Diary of Judith Myers (a Sam-style prose download). I haven't got the Nightdance TPB yet because Forbidden Planet don't stock it, I might ask them to order it and if that doesn't happen, I'll look into buying it online (I never shop online).

I finished "Onyx", it was great for the reasons you described. One of my concerns is, because Lex is such a sympathetic character, how convincing will his evolution into the villain he becomes be? Does he ever actually become "Evil Lex" from that episode? Oh, and I didn't like the line "I am the villain of the piece". I thought Lex's whole MO was that he was a wannabe hero and Superman stood in the way of that?

What did you think of that Buffy preview I linked? I forgot there was a Superman reference in it, I meant to show you that ages ago because I thought it was hilarious. And Dawn does have Buffy's blood, the exact same. That was why Buffy could die in her place in "The Gift". (I'm just teasing, I know what you mean.)  Paul  730 21:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Superman for All Seasons shows the "wannabe hero" side of Lex. He has these robot things patrolling the city doing heroic deeds and Superman is like "Oh please, get out of the way so I can do my job." Lois comments that Lex's heroics feel clinical and impersonal compared to Superman; "I'm looking for sexy and he's giving me laundry detergent. I'll wind up on page 9." I thought Evil Lex was a glimpse of what he'd become in later seasons, but he never becomes that "pure evil"? The "he's thought about it" line was funny, and who wouldn't want to kill Lana, let's face it?  ;)

I loved the prom episode, btw. It was really funny (Martha dancing in the kitchen) and Dawn Stiles was such a silly character. Lana is always cool when she's possessed by something else, which makes me think it's her writing that annoys, not the actress. I'm glad Clark and Lana got to dance, the idea of Clark Kent and Lana Lang not dancing together at their senior prom is just sacrelige to the Superman mythos. What was your prom like? I barely remember mine, I was completely drunk. They served us free wine, what did they expect? :D

Yeah, that's Andrew. His likeness is not the best in the comics, probably because Tom Lenk doesn't have any distinctive features (compared to Geller's nose or Hannigans eyes). Dawn has a mystical STD that causes her to morph into mythical creatures like giants and centaurs. There's a funny Godzilla spoof in that story where the Scoobies go to Tokyo and Dawn fights a mecha version of herself which spouts lines like "I am Dawn Summers. I am a teenage girl. I like to cry and let boys take advantage of my weak emotional state".. Ludicrous, but hilarious. "Wolves at the Gate" has been the best Buffy Season Eight story so far. That's the one where Buffy sleeps with a girl, Renee dies, the Scoobs team up with Dracula, it's just classic.  Paul  730 22:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Are you not going to get Buffy season 3 soon then? They make fun of chubby Nicolas Brendon in the comics, there's a scene where Dracula is like "You look great, you've lost so much weight!" Lol.  Paul  730 23:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Since it's the "Appearances" section, wouldn't some plot info with a citation to the relevant comics # be enough? Even if he never appeared on panel, I'd say it's important to note his presence as an unseen character before being personified as Lionel in the show. Btw, thought I'd send this interview with Allison Mack your way in case there's anything there that's useable for an article.  Paul  730 01:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, then all I can say is source what you can and purge what you can't. It's better to delete it than have OR in the article. Maybe move the deleted stuff to the talk page with a request that someone with the back issues can provide a citation? Maybe leave a comment on the Superman project page as well? You never know, some geek out there might be able to help. Sorry, that's the best solution can I think of.  Paul  730 01:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Well it looks great, bar the tiny reception section, but what can you do? Birthright is amazing by the way, adapting it would be the only reason to retell the origin story on film in my view. Alientraveller (talk) 16:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Aw, I'm glad you enjoyed it, that's one of my favourites too. What bits in it did you like? My favourite scene in it might be the final scene where Cordelia tells Harmony where to go, such a massive moment for the character. Wow, you're fairly getting through those Buffy eps. Did you like the scene in "Innocence" where Buffy kills the Judge? That's one of my favourite Buffy (the character) moments in the whole series.  Paul  730 23:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Giles always treats Xander like crap, I think he's just irritated by him. And he was probably a bit put out that Buffy and Jenny, his kinda-daughter and girlfriend, were hitting on Xander. Lol, I love the idea of Buffy walking through the school corridors in nothing but that coat, she's such a tart. What's the problem with using Brian Thompson again? Smaville has Jimmy Oslen and Eric Summers looking identical, at least the Judge had make-up. There's loads of re-used actors in Buffy and Angel, too many to list. I never notice the stunt doubles, people always moan about them but I never pick up on it unless I'm actively trying to pick them out. And the fights scenes rule! It's far more interesting than watching Clark on the floor moaning in Kryptonite-induced agony every episode. (I'm getting defensive again.)  Paul  730 00:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I tend not to notice reused actors, and then when I'm reading about the show later I'm like "oh, cool, they're the same person". The werewolf hunter in "Phases" reappears as a major villain in Angel (Can't spell his name, time travelling demon, sent Connor to hell). My friend always complains about the stunt doubles. He says that they usually have a square off with the actors, then a few minutes of hair swooshing about during the fight, then back to the actors for a quick one-liner. Whatever, it doesn't bother me. Btw, clear something up for me in Smallville; I thought I saw Chloe get memory-wiped by that guy in "Blank", but then later in that episode she's making "I know your secret" innuendos at Clark again. Did she lose her memory (that would be so cheap) or am I just seeing things. I guess the next episode with clear it up, just thought I'd ask cause it confused me.  Paul  730 01:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

There's loads of Buffy actors in Smallville; the guy you mentioned, the bee girl (played April the robot), the fat girl (played Tara's cousin), the Lex-stalker with the invisible brother (played a precog girl). Smallville has loads of familiar faces, even more than Charmed. If she remembered his secret anyway, then what was the point (from a writing perspective) of wiping her memory of him saving her. That was just weird and confusing. Was it so Clark wouldn't know that Chloe knows? "Passions" is a great episode, very emotional and it totally set a trend for Buffy (significant and popular characters will die horribly at their happiest moment). Did you know they were going to have Angelus kill Oz instead, but fans liked him so Jenny drew the short straw? Wow, imagine how different the show would have been without Oz. I agree with you about "Killed by Death", it is boring. The demon is cool but the whole episode is just too gloomy. Cordelia is great in it though! Totally an active and helpful member of the Scoobies. Plus she says one of my favourite lines, "Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass." Lol.  Paul  730 01:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I think killing Oz may have been a way to hurt Willow, because when Willow is in pain, the audience is in pain. Plus it would have been an easy get-out-jail-free card if the Oz character wasn't working at that point. You say that Willow finding Oz's body would be insignificant, but I think it would be horrific because it's Willow. Remember the scene in "Prophecy Girl" where she and Cordy find the dead students? I find that scene emotional, and they were just background characters, it's because Alyson Hannigan is so sympathetic. But yes, you're completely right that killing Jenny was the way to go. I love the way it happened, snapping her neck was just so quick and brutal.

I like "I Only Have Eyes For You", I think it's quite emotional near the end. The fact that Buffy is the who gets possessed by the killer rather than Angelus, shows how she blames herself for killing her lover and releasing Angelus. There's some great acting in that scene too. And I like the subtle B-story about Giles being in denial about Jenny's death. If you've not been liking these latter season 2 episodes, I doubt you'll like "Go Fish", that's one of the less popular episodes. I don't really mind it tbh, it's just harmless monster-of-the-week filler with no relevance to the overall story. Sheriff Brackett from Halloween is in it.

Have you seen all of Freddy's Nightmares? I watched the pilot and found it... okay. If those DVDs were cheap enough I might pick them up.  Paul  730 14:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Season 2 is the most hit-and-miss season; it has one of the best Big Bads but it still hasn't outgrown the monster-of-the-week formula. Some episodes, like "Killed by Death" and "Go Fish" are pretty boring (and "Bad Eggs" is just plain awful, I'm surprised you didn't comment on that), but I think you're being too hard on "IOHEFY". Yeah, Principal Synder is a pretty horrible character but he is meant to be. He isn't aware of everything that goes on, just that something is going on. There's a funny scene in season 3 where he interrupts the Scoobies confronting the Mayor and fighting spider demons, and he says "Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?" Synder reminds me of the Sheriff in Smallville, although I actually kind of like her. Season 2 has some of the best moments in the series (Angel turning evil, and the classic finale) but Season 3 is more consistantly better quality. Season 4 is an awkward season, it takes a while to adjust to the post-high school status quo. Season 5 is just... brilliant.

I liked what I saw of the Friday the 13th TV series, I'd probably buy both of them if they were cheap enough.  Paul  730 19:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

"Bad Eggs" is one of my least favourite episodes of the whole show, it's always such a speed bump when I'm watching season 2. Synder is the Mayor's lackey, he has enough knowledge of the Hellmouth to cover up the strange incidents but he doesn't know the Mayor is evil, and doesn't have any real agenda other than being principal. "Becoming, Part Two" is easily one of the best episodes in the whole show. I love the scene where Buffy comes out to her mother, and the moment where she basically tells her to get a grip and see the truth. I also love the glimpse we see of the power Willow is harbouring within her, where she is briefly taken over by the magic. Buffy "killing" Angel is probably her greatest moment of all time, moreso even than her death in "The Gift" because part of that was selfishly motivated. Clark may be a hero, but would he be strong enough to run a broadsword through Lana and send her to hell if the whole world depended on it? Buffy season three has kind of a slow start (as do all Buffy seasons) but once Faith is introduced it begins to heat up. I'm on the penultimate season 4 Smallville episode right now (it's pretty creepy) and I'm looking forward to the finale. Except I know it'll be a cliffhanger and I'll have to shell out £20 for season 5 to find out what happens! ;)  Paul  730 22:25, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

It's a common theme in Doctor Who as well, the Doctor refuses to kill innocent people for the greater good. Buffy herself refuses to kill Dawn in season five, and kills herself instead. That was a brilliant moment, but I don't think it was as heroic as killing Angel was because it took less strength. I'm not saying that I think less of the Doctor and Superman for not killing people, I don't, but I think the fact that Buffy sacrificed the love of her life (and a part of herself in the process) for the greater good was the most noble thing she's ever done, and I admire her for that. Btw, this message was originally a lot longer and included quotes from certains episodes where Buffy discusses what killing Angel meant to her, but I ended up confusing myself because I wasn't sure what point I was trying to make. I like this fansite, it explores the moral ambiguities in the Buffyverse, such as killing creatures who are/used to be friends.  Paul  730 23:53, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Watched "Commencement" and you're right, I did like it. There was total tension throughout the episode because of the upcomming meteor shower. At first I found the ticking clock a bit silly but it became very effective when there there was only a few minutes left. The meteor shower was pretty exciting although I had to groan at the superhero cliche "dumb kid walking into danger while parent screams in background". Ah well. I'm not sure I like these cliffhanger finales though, they're not very satisfying. It was cool to see Lex unleash his inner villain under pressure, manipulating Lana and abusing Chloe.  Paul  730 01:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Another Smallville interview, this time with the Doomsday and Tess Mercer actors. Enjoy.  Paul  730 20:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Would forums be an okay source if we're quoting a notable person? I mean, it is straight from the horse's mouth so to speak, much like a Q&A which you told me were acceptable. The reason I ask is I want to add this quote from comics writer Stefan Hutchinson to the Michael Myers article.  Paul  730 22:54, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

It's a forum (The Official Halloween Message Board) which he contributes to regularly along with other staff members of the Halloween comics (who are very active on the web, the excellent Halloween comics tie-in website is maintained by them). I'm certain it's him if that's the problem; he posts updates and information about the comics series all the time.  Paul  730 00:02, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Meh. It's not really worth searching for a third-party source, I just liked the specific wording of that post, the part about Michael being "simplified" across the sequels (was going to put it in a quote box). Not sure how I could prove his identity but I am positive it's him (I think he's an admin or whatever they're called on that forum). If you feel so strongly about it I'll not bother adding it. How are you btw, started watching Buffy season three yet? I've been meaning to buy Smallville season 5, I kind of miss having new episodes sitting there whenever I want them (Been meaning to slap your back for those character articles, btw, you've really been cranking them out).  Paul  730 00:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

There's a couple of sources like that in the Buffy articles that I'll have to weed out (the one about Faith's last name IIRC). Seems like a waste of good info. :( Of those films you list, I've only seen Daylight, which I remember liking. The only criticism I can think of with the Smallville articles are the inconsistencies of the main images; you've got screenshots, promo pics, head shots, and full-body shots. It's certainly not a major concern, but irritating to a superficial person like myself. I know you're looking for a new Clark picture. Also, no Lois article? I'd figure there'd be loads of third party reactions to a new incarnation of such a famous character.  Paul  730 01:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol, "crap". Because Clark is such a fashion icon. I like the Lex image, the Lionel one could be cropped a little more. That Chloe image you linked is better, what made you choose the full-body one? No, I'm not a martial arts movie fan, although I have to say I've never really sat and watched one so maybe I am and I don't know it. Doubt it though. Speaking of recent DVD purchases, I finally saw Saw II the other day and enjoyed it despite the fact that I knew the big twist. My boss says he'll lend me the other sequels at some point. I also recently bought Short Circuit 2 (childhood favourite).  Paul  730 01:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

"Sure, kidnap the humans... destroy the machines!" Lol, that scene is a favourite of mine too. Always loved Johnny's "I Need a Hero" rampage through the city. I was hoping you'd like them since you seem to like cheesy 80s cult movies. I mentioned to a couple of people that I bought the DVD, and they gave me a funny look. Whatever, I love those movies (even added Johnny to the favourite characters list on my user page). I heard they want to remake the first one with updated tech for Johnny 5... urgh, no thank you. I enjoy the Saw movies but I wouldn't call myself a fan. They're always worth a watch, but the whole gorno genre isn't really my thing.  Paul  730 03:30, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol, I haven't even heard of those movies (except Monster Squad, which I remember you showing me a trailer of). Killer Klowns...?? Yeah, Short Circuit is so shamelessly 80s that I can't imagine how they would bring it into the 21st century without losing all of it's charm. I haven't seen Hostel and have no desire whatsoever to. Like I said, I'm not a fan of gorno. Cheesy comic book violence and death is fine, watching people be slowly tortured and mutilated is just unpleasant. The Saw movies have a bit of psychology to them (the whole "how much do you value your life and what are you willing to do to keep it" thing) and are well-written enough to be entertaining. Hostel seems to consist only of people getting tortured just so Eli Roth can feel like he's making the next Texas Chainsaw. I'm surprised you don't like Hostel actually? Strange for you to not like a horror movie.  Paul  730 04:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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*Suddenly terrified as to how Bignole knows the realistic effect of a blowtorch to the face* Nope, never heard of KKfOS at all. It looks fucking awful but who am I to judge your love of weird clown aliens. What horror movies do you not like/respect (major ones, not ones I've never heard of). I liked Cabin Fever when I first saw it but thought it was nothing memorable. I remember finding Roth somewhat irritating on the DVD, he did like four commentaries and phoned his parents during one of them so they could talk about the movie. I mean, it's great that he likes horror and is proud of his work, but come on. Also, I don't agree with his opinions on so-called "castrated horror"; I happened to like and respect movies like Scream, Last Summer, and H20. The man just comes across as a bit of a desperate wannabe IMO, and he doesn't seem to have contributed anything particularly original or memorable to the horror genre. Saw FTW. ;)  Paul  730 13:21, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

And how does Hostel detract from your terrifyingly accurate description of blowtorch-face melting physics? :P I've not seen the film, is it really as gruesome as they make out? I remember one of my old teachers, who was a big horror buff, actually admitted to me that he was too afraid to see the movie based on the reviews it got. I was kinda nervous before watchig Saw (and it's sequel) but they weren't too bad. The only part that got me was when the guy had to try and cut out his own eye, because I'm funny about eyes. I'm not itching to see Killer Klowns but I have to respect it's shameless title, it's okay to be a B-movie so long as you know you're a B-movie. Speaking of other horrors I haven't seen, are the Chucky movies any good? I've never seen them but I've heard bad things. Also, how about Prom Night? It's one of the only JLC slasher flicks I haven't seen (Terror Train was shite).  Paul  730 13:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, lovely. I tell you I have a funny thing about eyeballs and you proceed to talk about bursting eye pus. ;) I'm sure I could handle Hostel, but the premise just doesn't interest me all that much. I'll probably watch it eventually out of morbid curiosity. Wasn't the original Child's Play more of a mystery, where the boy might have been the killer, and Chucky wasn't revealed until the end? I'm surprised you're being so harah on the sequels, they don't seem any dafter than those in other series (considering). Isn't Bride pretty popular? My friend is a total Chucky fangirl, she has all the dolls in her room. Hellraiser and Chucky are two series I'm not too familiar with. (Here's another Smallville interview from Newsarama, btw.)  Paul  730 10:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

What was wrong with Seed? I know the basic plot. Lol, why did your mother throw your doll away? Did she think it would be a bad influence on you or something? Seems a little extreme (and it obviously didn't work, judging from what a horror fanboy you are now). I've seen the first Hellraiser and thought it was all right. Never got around to watching the sequels. How good is the continuity in the series? Are there any films that you wish just never happened, Resurrection-style? I'd like to see the sequels eventually, if only to see more of Pinhead since he wasn't in the first one much.  Paul  730 12:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol, you're not the only one. My mum used to worry about me when I was going through my major obsession with Halloween. She still bought me the movies though, she's pretty laid back like that. I remember her buying me Evil Dead and telling me I'd need Pampers to watch it, it was so scary. Talk about exaggeration, I wasn't frightened at all by Evil Dead (or the Exorcist, which was another one she thought would be too much for me to handle). Wow, your mother watches people get killed for fun? That seems so alien to someone where we don't have the death sentence, I didn't even know you could do that.

There's a DVD set of just the first three Hellraisers so I might pick that up one day. Bloodline is set in space? Weird, is it straight-faced or a Jason X-style comedy? Btw, I picked up Smallville season five today but I'm not sure when I'll start watching it because I picked up some South Park boxsets as well. I also bought Halloween: 25 of Terror, and got the comic Halloween: Autopsis (by my fave, Stef Hutchinson) inside it. It was brilliant, it had some great nods to Halloween H30 (or vice versa, since H30 was written later) and was a really dark, genuinely scary story. It focuses a lot on how Michael is an artist, I absolutely love the characterization he recieves in these comics despite so little panel-time.  Paul  730 17:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh right, I had a picture of a group of people showing up with popcorn and laughing while some poor fucker gets electrocuted. :P Do you like Bloodline? It sounds pretty good. Eh... Autopsis is "pretty good"? It's better than that! I used to be such a loyal fan of the Halloween series but all the retcons and silly plot twists made me kind of jaded. These comics have really rejuavenated my interest in the series; they've proven that John Carpenter was wrong when he said that there was no story left in Michael Myers after the first film. I find it interesting that the comic medium - which is too often dismissed as childish or simplistic - has provided far better quality stories than the film sequels, which were destroyed by lazy, talentless, or uninterested directors, greed, and studio interference. You like Harry Potter? I liked the books but never got into the movies. Haven't read the last few books, but I'd like to one day.  Paul  730 17:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've noticed your Oz-like attitude; Smallville is the only thing you seem to be really enthusiastic about. I'm the opposite, I usually either love something or hate it with a passion. I love HII and H20 (especially H20) but they're flawed films and neither really did anything interesting with Michael himself. HII is a fairly routine slasher flick with boring faceless characters and a robotic Michael. H20 is a fantastic character arc for Laurie, but Michael himself isn't scary anymore. He's not a malevolent force like he was in the first movie, he's just a guy in mask. JLC makes that film with her performance, everything else is just mediocre. Also, HII and H20 are both derivative of other films of their era, they feel like F13 and Scream movies, respectfully (not necessarily a bad thing, but noticeable). To me, the comics are the only thing which have not only captured the original character of Michael, but actually expanded on and improved him (specifically his recently-introduced habit of sending his victims morbid drawings [1] [2])  Paul  730 19:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)::

He was just a man in a mask in the first one as well, it was just portrayed in a scarier way. In H20, he's fully-lit, with his eyes in plain sight and he just looks stupid. The last act of the movie wasn't dark enough lighting-wise IMO. 22:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea if there's little chance of finding any sources, I have no idea how much attention that series recieves in the media or by the Smallville makers. I've not even bothered watching it personally, is it worth my time? Btw, in the Chloe article, are you going to keep Comic books separate from Literature?  Paul  730 02:46, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

You never watched them? That's wierd, you being a die-hard Smallville fan. Aren't they on the DVDs somewhere? Isn't there a cartoon based on Kara as well, I'm sure I saw that advertised on some website. Btw, quick question, if I wanted to view DVDs on my laptop and save good quality images from them, what would I need to do that? Is there something I can download? (I'm totally ignorant about anything remotely technical).  Paul  730 05:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

They're still canon to the show, aren't they? You should watch them out of loyalty if nothing else. I dislike Angel: After the Fall, but it's canon, and so I subject myself to it on a monthly basis.

I'm embarrassed at how computer illiterate I am, but how do I watch DVDs on Windows Media Player? It's on my desktop, but when I put a DVD in nothing happens. I've tried messing about with it, but it all seems to be about downloading music, I can't seem to find any option for watching DVDs... remember that you're talking to the guy that broke his e-mail over a year ago and hasn't been able to get into it since, Windows is like Skynet to me.  Paul  730 12:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I found the DVD option on Windows Media Player, but apparently I don't have a "DVD decoder" so it didn't work. Never mind, I downloaded VLC and that's working fine, so that'll do for now (although I know what you meant about the pausing). Thanks for all your help, mate. :)  Paul  730 22:41, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

What do you make of this discussion about the Angel article? I'm not too sure what to make of it, but I can see how people might find the current title odd.  Paul  730 21:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks's for that detailed explantion. :) I just hope this doesn't turn into another petty "Lehane" argument. Article titles always seem to be such a point of contention on Wikipedia.  Paul  730 23:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I've only seen the first three Harry Potter movies and didn't like them. It felt like they were directly adapting scenes from the books, but not working them into a cohesive story. They just seemed to jump from one scene to the other, whereas in the books, everything flowed really well. I heard the later films do a better job of telling the story and not just adapting scenes. Was that the first time you've seen them? Did you like David Tennant in... Goblet, I think? Third season of what... Buffy? I watched the first couple episodes of Smallville season five, they were okay. Looking forward to the Aquaman episode.  Paul  730 23:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Is Barty in the movie quite a bit? I know Clark and Lionel end up being buddies in the show, Clark mourns him and everything. Oh yeah, I forgot about James Marsters. I'm kinda looking forward to seeing him, but I'm not sure if I'll like him as anything other than Spike. I hated him in Torchwood,[3] but that was probably more to do with the crappy writing than anything else and the fact that they were ripping off Spike's attitute. I'll look out for those episodes. So did you say you'd started watching Buffy season 3?  Paul  730 23:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

The music was in the episode, and you're right, the whole thing was ridiculous and cringeworthy. It feels like some horrible fan fiction where two characters just randomly start getting off for no reason. Their "relationship" isn't all that developed, the character (John Hart is his name) appears in only 2 episodes. In the first, he's kind of a villain, taking down the TW team for his own reasons (which I forget). In the season finale, he shows up again as a minion of the Big Bad, and by then he's decided that he's actually a misunderstood good guy who loves Jack and is seeking redemption. It's like they've taken Spike's entire arc from Buffy and crammed it into 2 episodes. The episodes themselves were actually quite good, it just annoyed me that they were trying to copy Spike and doing it so poorly. I'd quite like John to join TW in one of the upcoming seasons if only to develop the character a little. You make Braniac sound pretty good, I'm looking forward to him. Is he still kicking about in season 8 or have they ended his character? Also, are you sure that 8 will be the last season? I keep hearing how the series has had a new lease of life.  Paul  730 01:18, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I didn't have a problem with him having "follies" on TW or being a morally ambiguous character, it was just the way they changed him over 2 episodes. Spike took literally years to earn his redemption on Buffy, culminating in him becoming a Champion to rival Angel. His arc on TW felt rushed and lazy. I'm not worried about that happening in Smallville, jeez if any show knows how to be patient it's Smallville. Yeah, I noticed the shittith. I'm keeping out of it for now because I'm not entirely decided on where I stand, but your argument is pretty strong. I feel kind of guilty for always dragging you into these silly Buffy debates, if ever you don't want to get involved, just say so. :P  Paul  730 02:07, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought you meant "follies" as in switching back and forth between hero and villain, whereas Braniac is a straight villian. Yeah, I heard Brainiac is quite different from Spike so that's good. Isn't Clark more or less in his Superman status quo now anyway? Working at the Planet, Lois the reporter, Jimmy Olsen, etc (where's Perry?). Do you think they'll bother giving him the glasses, or will Smallville just ignore that part of the mythology? Who's going to run the Kent farm if Clark's in Metropolis and Martha's away being a senator?  Paul  730 02:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I thought since this was theoretically the last season, Clark was basically Superman now, just without the actual name and costume. To a casual observer, it pretty much seems like he's grown up, but I guess he still has a way to go? And I meant who's going to run the farm when Clark is Superman and living in Met, since Jonathan and Martha are gone now, but I guess you answered that question.  Paul  730 14:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Looks excellent, and it's nice to see Smallvilles best character get an article that does her justice. I'm not sure about some of the categories though, "fictional sidekicks"? You've done some really great work with these Smallville character articles. I know they're not finished, and you won't be happy with them till they're perfect, but you still deserve this.  Paul  730 22:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

*Tried to give you a Superman barnstar but it fucked up the coding on your page. Check the history...*

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I didn't think you would have been the one who added those categories. Urgh, "sidekick". Condescending much? Superman and his loyal sidekick, Empath Girl! :( Do you think Chloe will survive Smallville? She's really not a necessary part of the Superman mythos, what with Lois being around, and her death would be a brilliant kick in the nuts for a final season since she's basically the Cordelia of the show (Cordelia in Angel, not Buffy, in other words the heart of the show and it's hero). Back to the article, I'm not sure about the "DC" category. It was the "comics" part that threw me off, but I guess that's the name of the company regardless of the actual media? DC is still involved in the making of Smallville... I'm leaning towards re-adding them now that you bring it up.  Paul  730 22:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I'd quite like her to die, death of a beloved character is usually great TV. So long as it's done in a respectful, appropiate way then I'd be all for it. It's DC Comics, so should we re-add it? Also, I'd like to contest you changing Televsion to Smallville in the Clark article, the title Smallville applies to the spin-off crap as well, so I think we should be specific about the actual medium.  Paul  730 00:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Good point, about the fake deaths. Her supposed death in season 3 barely registered with me because I knew it was a fake-out. Isn't she immortal or something anyway? Oh well, I don't mind her not-dying. I'll re-add the cats. And even though the spin-offs have subtitles, they're still part of the Smallville franchise. It's all Smallville (hence the title of the article), so "Television" seem more specific and accurate IMO.  Paul  730 00:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

In cases where characters don't have a lit section, using the TV title would be pointless because they haven't appeared in other media (or the article doesn't cover that yet, whatever). However, in cases where characters have appeared in multiple mediums, titling the section under that medium seems better. All of the characters' appearances are in Smallville because they're Smallville characters, that section covers the Smallville TV series, so Television seems a better title. Btw, should Chloe and Lionel be categorised as Category:DC Comics characters or Category:DC Comics characters in other media, since they are original creations and not adaptations?  Paul  730 00:47, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I'll just stick them under DC Comics characters; like you say, Chloe appears in Smallville comics, and "Lex's Father" appears in the canon (or whatever passes for canon in the crazy world of Final Infinite Ultimate Reboot Crisis DC continuity) which is good enough for me. Watched anymore of Buffy? I just watched "Hidden" and found it surprisingly good, was Jor-El always such a see-you-next-Tuesday in the comics?  Paul  730 02:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I was being polite. I liked Glover as Jor-El, he totally shows the other actors how it's done. Lex is getting on my tits, all his scenes with Lana are really dragging him down. What did you make of "Dead Man's Party", that's an episode that's often unpopular with fans because they don't like how the Scoobies and Joyce are treating Buffy. I find their reactions quite realistic, but I'm firmly on Buffy's side because I know what she went through with Angel. Plus Giles' line in the car "Do you like my mask? Isn't it pretty, it raises the dead! Americans!" is classic.  Paul  730 03:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

That's actually a pretty fair explanation; it's Jor-El's head talking but not his heart, that makes sense. I remember you telling me that Lana becomes a borderline villain during her relationship with Lex, and you weren't fond of her at that point. Why didn't you care for "Dead Man's Party"? It's not my favourite episode by any means, but I enjoy any episode where the Scoobies are in conflict with each other. I like it when Willow basically says to Buffy that everything isn't about her, and that she's going through stuff of her own. A lot of Willow's arc this season is realising that she can't rely on Buffy and Xander; they both let her down and kind of reject her in favour of Faith. In season four, she's a lot more independant, and actually says to Buffy "I'm not your sidekick". I'm proud of Willow for stepping out from under Buffy's shadow; in the pilot, she's all eager to be a "Slayerette", and in later seasons she proves herself to be far more powerful than Buffy. One of my favourite moments is when she decides to take down Glory (Buffy: Even I'm not a match for her. Willow: But maybe I am!). Look forward to the episode "Choices" in latter season three, it's a pretty major turning point for Willow's character, albeit in a subtle way.  Paul  730 03:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

The Xander/Willow affair was horribly contrived and I think it was just a way to break up Xander and Cordelia, so Cordy could move over to Angel. Which is awful, because Cordelia is bascially AWOL for the rest of the season, and all of the brilliant development she went through in season 2 goes out the window until Angel season 1. I wouldn't say that Willow cheating on Oz is that out of character; Willow is a pretty weak person when it comes to temptation, which we see later on when she becomes a magic addict. I mean, she mind-raped Tara in season six without remorse, so a little kiss doesn't seem that bad in retrospect. Wander aside, what did you think of "Homecoming"? That's one of my favourite episodes from season three, because I love the relationship between Buffy and Cordelia. I love it when Cordelia completely puts Lyle in his place (worst...character... ever...). Oh, and Kulak of the Miquot Clan is one of the coolest demons (the yellow guy). You'll be close or past "Lover's Walk" now, that's one of the best Spike episodes in the show.  Paul  730 16:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol, yeah, it's more Londony. I think that's Tony Head's normal speaking voice. Apparently, he coached James Marsters with Spike's accent because in real life he sounds more like Spike than Giles. That's why Spike's accent kind of deteriorates after Giles leaves the show, because Head wasn't there to teach him how to say his lines. Btw, a line from that episode recently resurfaced in the comics; Buffy is in the future and she's driving a flying car (badly), prompting Fray to cry out "Summers, you drive like a spaz!" Lol.  Paul  730 16:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I was just thinking how creepy James Marsters real accent is while watching "Aqua". It sounds weird and fake, even though I know that's how he actually speaks. "Aqua" was okay, not as good as Flash's episode. AC was kind of annoying with his stupid surfer hippie attitude. I'm about to watch the vampire episode, which I've been looking forward to.  Paul  730 17:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Green Arrow really seems to be the breakout star of Smallville, he's such a C-lister, it's nice to see him getting a chance in the spotlight. Was "Thirst" the worst episode of the season, or the seasons, not sure if you made a typo there. It wasn't that bad, the vampire lore sucked... I was disappointed that they went for the meteor freak technobabble rather than making them real vampires. If witches are real, why not vamps? That bird out of Star Wars was good as the bitchy Daily Planet lady.  Paul  730 19:39, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Thought you knew. It's interesting how she's summoned to curse Xander, the man she eventually falls in love with. "The Wish" is a great episode, the first appearance of not only Anya but also Vamp Willow! "Bored now..." And the ending is totally sad, Buffy stakes Xander!  Paul  730 01:01, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I know, but Xander's death gets to me because Buffy is so cold when she does it. She just kills someone who, in another timeline, is her best friend and she doesn't know. It's the look on her face. That, and the way that she walks through Angel's ashes without a care. That episode is really powerful IMO.  Paul  730 01:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm the opposite, I find "Amends" incredibly dull and boring, until the end, where I like the Buffy/Angel scene on the cliff and the miracle snow. I like the foreshadowing of Angel; the Powers That Be have bigger plans for Angel's destiny and will intervene if necessary. You've got "Gingerbread" coming up next, that's a personal favourite of mine... in fact, the rest of season 3 is brilliant. Season 3 is the shit!  Paul  730 03:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I love Cordy and Giles in that ep. Love it when Cordelia is having so much fun hitting the parents with the hose that she forgets about Buffy and Willow being burned alive. (Buffy: Cordelia, the fire! Cordelia: Oh... right.) Amy is a total abuse victim in that show. I remember reading a season 4/5 interview with the writers where they asked "Are you going to turn Amy back to a human?" and they were like "Nah, not anytime soon. It's not really a priority." Lol, no wonder she went evil. She's kind of like Faith to Willow's Buffy, the evil twin. I feel sorry for her.  Paul  730 13:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Smallville

Hey, nice job with Lionel Luthor. I nominated it at DYK (hope you don't mind). Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 15:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

lol, my bad, I actually meant Lex Luthor (Smallville) on my comment above. But still, Lionel's page has improved significantly. Anyways, I don't want to be a nuisance, but the pictures on the pages of Lex and Lionel are excellent! Really good, maybe Clark could have a similar one? Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 01:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree, somewhat. The picture with Green Arrow, once cropped, will actually look good. But didn't you say it was illegal to cut out the watermark? Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 02:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

I saw earlier, and it looks much better. I'll also try to find a better pic. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 02:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Damn, that was fast. I'll nominate it for DYK, but before I do, is there any fact you like? Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 05:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Excellent, I'll add it right away. BTW, do you think the Smallville character pages warrant a reception section? The better Lost character pages have one, e.g. Nikki and Paulo, Martin Keamy and Miles Straume. Just a thought. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 05:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I guess either way is fine. Well anyways, I guess only Chloe is left? Right? What are you going to do once the character pages are done? The reformatting of the season pages? Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 05:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 05:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh sure. The pages were full of junk, and I deleted a lot of the unwanted info. I believe I can get the pilot to GA status, but the rest need too much work. I think notifying other editors on the talk page was the best way to go about it. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 06:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Argh, I LOVE IT! lol, anyways, now that you have created all the character pages, what do you think of nominating them for GA? Are there any improvements that need to be made? Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 03:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

But just because they aren't complete or good enough for your standards doesn't make them not worthy of GA. As they are now, they are practically GA's. You could nominate them now, and add some of that info later. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 03:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

lol, I didn't mean to sound harsh. Anyways, I usually don't like nominating an article that someone else has improved. There may be things going on with the page that I don't know about, so I'll leave it up to you. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 03:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

okay, sure. I'll try to help out here and there, but I am working on a couple of projects. Speaking of projects, I recently expanded Veronica Mars. It has been nominated for GA status, and I am hoping to get it to FA. Any ideas on how it can be improved? Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 04:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess there's not much you can do. I'll request a peer review after the GA review, and take it from there. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 06:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Fringe images

the image I uploaded for the article (temporary, i am thinking), uses a fair use image that I essentially copied from an image used in a Lost episode, Berginning of the End. As I culled it from an FA article, I am hoping its fair to presume that the rationale would be pretty durable. Thoughts? - Hexhand (talk) 15:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

On a side subject, are you suggesting it would be acceptable to link to the series if it were not bold text? I looked over the MOS, and don't seem to see the rule you are alluding to. - Hexhand (talk) 18:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Have you been watching this show? I just watched the second episode last night. It's not bad, but the influences seem fairly obvious. It's no Lost for me... —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:30, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I figured it was like that. And pssh, you're missing out on quality TV with Lost. :) I present about a loyalty program in 15 minutes... wish me luck. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 22:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Eddie Brock

Yeah, I swear I had seen that before, but maybe it was changed. I just wanted the whole argument to get settledOnepiece226 (talk) 01:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)Onepiece226

New Smallville

Best episode in years, no? Chloe's development as a character has come round to a place where she has a real importance to the series as a whole (unlike Lana, ever) and super-intelligence as a power makes a lot of sense and explains away her years of super-hacking. The JL stuff was awesome, and Lois' character arc has brought her to become at last the Lois we know from the comics. I think Al/Miles jumping ship did the show a world of good!~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 13:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

If my revert of your edit offended or upset you, please accept my apology. I am still learning how television articles work, and sometimes, I get a little excitable. - Hexhand (talk) 17:10, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Lana Lang (Smallville)

On 22 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lana Lang (Smallville), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 05:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

late entry for lluthor hook

On 22 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lex Luthor (Smallville), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Victuallers (talk) 20:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: IMDb

Wow, talk about a well-conditioned website... not! The fanboyism sure runs deep with this particular film, doesn't it? :) I'm glad, though, that TDK tumbled down the rankings from #1. It's still too high, but damned if there wasn't some serious screwing around there. I check my watchlist every once in a while, and I usually see The Dark Knight with you removing x kb of extraneous content, haha. I wish I could get back into the editing game, but I really am busy with work, classes, team meetings, and information sessions all week long. I do have some flexibility on weekends, but I just wind up doing other stuff, I guess. Feel the need to get out sometimes. You holding up, too? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 12:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)