Talk:Sleeping Beauty

In the music section, A Perfect Circle have a song named sleeping beauty written from the perspective of a prince that didn't manage to wake her up. This is the first time i'm contributing to a page here so i don't know how to go about it. its verifiable by the fact that its on their album mer de noms and thats how the lyrics go. - tourettic.

I'm sorry to see this good format chopped up with "HeaderSs" for three-line "subsections." I don't want to revert, because I may just be fussy. Wetman 17:37, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I reverted the change by 203.177.112.153 (Perrault's narrative) to the previous version 23:12, 2004 Sep 11 by User:D6 thus removing this text "yuki is the author". From just a quick google this looks like it might be a reference to a manga by Yuki Kohara based on Sleeping Beauty, so if anyone wants to expand on it and place it somewhere, maybe at the end of the "Uses" section, go ahead. There's a strange horizontal line in the article that might be removed, but I'm too lazy right now ;-) As to the sections, I agree there are too many in extlinks, so I overcame my laziness and removed them. -Wikibob | Talk 14:25, 2004 Sep 13 (UTC)

I am going to add a small description of Sleeping Beauty the 1959 Disney movie for now. I may create a breakout page for it later, which will discuss the stylings, music, story, and historical importance of the film. --b. Touch 09:06, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Regarding This entry is begging for more illustrations. Just insert them.

In my view the page is already becoming rather "heavy" as it is: if more illustrations are added I'd suggest to split it up. Anyway, I suppose "begging for illustrations" is better done on the discussion page. --Francis Schonken 19:28, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

How brief is the attention span I wonder? An entry Sleep perhaps and another Beauty? Notes in the entry aren't intrusive: they simplyremind the reader that Wikipedia is a work in progress. Wetman 20:07, 28 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Copy editing

I have done some minor copy editing, added missing links, removed redundant links, and reworded few sentences, mostly in the Walt Disney's Sleeping Beauty section. Please compare this section to the last version [1] to see if nothing important was lost in the process. It may still need some polishing. Rafał Pocztarski 04:13, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Spoiler warning

I've removed the Spoiler Warning inserted 15:41, 28 Sep 2004. The humor of it must be played after four months. Let them add spoiler warnings to the Book of Job instead— and "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer": I've always wondered how that came out. (Wetman)

Someone else removed the "spoiler" warnings and was furiously reverted by User: Goldfritha with the misleading and rather inflammatory edit summary "reverting ethnocentric vandalism." Whoa! Something cuts mysteriously deep in this—well, "deep" is relative in this case, isn't it? Some anonymity editing previously thinks "ALL plot summaries should have spoiler warnings"—such as at Book of Revelation no doubt? I for one would be highly entertained by a brief (fifty words or less) explanation of why spoiler warnings are considered an advantage to the "Sleeping Beauty" article. Who is being protected from disappointment at having the surprise spoiled, one wonders? --Wetman 01:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What harm does the tag do? And it is ethnocentric to assume that all readers of this article are familiar with the story. Goldfritha 02:03, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not very, just adult. --Wetman 07:13, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

snort Tell me the end of "Peach Boy" without looking it up if you want to claim it's adult. Goldfritha 14:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fairy?

So they were *fairies* in the English version? Jesus. All the versions I knew considered them ordinary women (aunts IIRC) and the ability to "curse" people wasn't considered particularily extraordinary (doesn't take a supernatural being to do that). — Ashmodai ^{(talk · contribs)} 05:15, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the French one, actually. Goldfritha 01:01, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Kiss

Perhaps the English version is different from the French one, but there doesn't seem to be a mention of a kiss from the Prince waking up the Princess in the original French version. It's likely that I'm not reading the passage correctly, but the Princess wakes up just from the Prince kneeling at her bedside. Apologies if I'm mistaken in anyway. In regards to that, do different editions of the original tale retell the story differently?--Thumbtax 04:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes, here's the English version attesting to that part. [2]--Thumbtax 00:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In the Italian version -- the oldest one there is -- the king rapes her, which does not wake her up, and leaves; she carries twins to term and gives birth, which does not wake her up; the hungry twins are crying, and one tries to suckle on her finger, which pulls out the thing she pricked her finger with and so wakes her.

So, yes, the original tales differ. Goldfritha 01:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The English version tries to be better and "cleaner", but really it's not. The prince didn't know his kiss would wake up the princess, so it's actually some guy trying to get freaky with a dead chick. --Hurricane Angel 07:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)--Hurricane Angel 07:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deep European myths

More than many fairy tales, Sleeping Beauty partakes of many deep European myths, both pagan and Christian.

All right -- what's a deep European myth? How does it differ from the shallow ones? Why does Sleeping Beauty partake of these myths? Who counted and how were they able to count? Goldfritha 01:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then, out it goes. Goldfritha 16:54, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Basile

Perrault transformed Basile's tale almost past recognition? I can recognize it easily and so can anyone who compares the story given by the links. Anyone got a reference to make that claim? Goldfritha 03:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]