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Barnstar

I, V. Molotov, hereby give you this barnstar for participation in VfDs.

Molotov (talk) 21:14, 19 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. First time I've been decorated. --MacRusgail 15:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Minor Barnstar

In recognition of your many good minor edits. Reyk 22:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • My pleasure. You deserve it. Reyk 23:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dwelly project

Category:Dwelly This category is for articles incorporating text from “Dwelly’s [Scottish] Gaelic Dictionary” (1911) by Edward Dwelly, from that dictionary's encyclopedic entries (rather than just definitions). Where possible/suitable, an English translation is used as the title:

Done (22/03/06)

Aoghairean, Aois-dàna, Brownie (elf) (Uruisg), Canntaireachd, Ciud-siorraig, Clann-an-oistir, Clay-body (Corp-creadha), Còmhla-bhigein, Crann-nan-gad, Crois-iarna (Iron Cross is taken), Crom Dubh (Crum-dubh), Cuirm, Daugh (Dabhach), Druids' glass (Gloine), Druineach, Foot plough (Cas-chrom etc), Force-fire (Tein'-eigin), Half-foot, Lavellan (Labh-allan), liaghra], Long Èireannach, Lèine bhàn, MacGillonie (Sguaban-stothaidh), Matron's badge (Bréid), Muc-sheilch, Ounceland (Unga, Peighinn etc), Oxgang (do.), Pennyland (do.), Religion of the Yellow Stick (Creideamh...), Scottish Gaelic personal naming system (names appendix), Slinneanachd, Sunwise (deiseal), Taghairm, Traditional dyes of the Scottish Highlands (dath), Tulchan (Tulachan), Wonder tuft (Tom-an-ioghnaidh)

Also incorporating some text from Dwelly

To do

Additional

Improve Edward Dwelly's biography.


Irish Scots

I see you you created that Irish-Scot Category. Not sure if you are interested but there is a discussion as whether or not to keep it or delete it. Gunniog should have informed you of this but as he hasnt I thought I would, see here for further information--Vintagekits 19:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SCOWNB Participants merger with WP:SCO

As I hope you may have seen I am attempting to tidy up WP:SCOWNB by removing old notices and the duplication that has emerged since the creation of WP:SCO. One of the latter issues is that there are lists of active Wikipedians on both locations which overlap to a significant degree. As WP:SCOWNB is ideally a place for announcements I am in process of merging the lists at WP:SCO and intend to remove the one at WP:SCOWNB when this is complete. However there are a fair number of Users not on both lists. If you do not wish to have you current WP:SCOWNB entry re-appear at WP:SCO please either let me know or edit the latter as appropriate. Thanks for your patience, and continuing support of matters relating to WikiProject Scotland. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:31, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pentland Hills Picture

I'm wondering where [1] was taken from. Am I right in thinking it is from the Midlothian/Borders side rather than from the north? Either way, an image summary, so an accurate caption can be given whenever it is used, would be useful. So I'd be grateful if you could add one, both for the sake of captionign and because it'd bugging me not knowing Lurker oi! 14:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was taken off what I think was the A702 road which runs on the east. The layby was between Silverburn and Hillend, so that would make it the north end, although, not looking onto the end of the range, as you would in Edinburgh.--MacRusgail 18:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image tagging for Image:Norsefire.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:Norsefire.jpg. The image has been

Islands

Thanks for your additional section. I have undertaken a revision that avoids implying that islands with bridges etc. are no longer 'islands'. There has been some discussion along these lines at both the relevant talk page and also Template talk:Infobox Scottish island. It's fairly crucial to have some consistency as both the list and template use ranks for area which gets complicated if, for example, Benbecula is no longer treated as an island. The working definition is: 'land that is surrounded by seawater on a daily basis, but not necessarily at all stages of the tide, excluding human devices such as bridges and causeways.' This definition enables us to still call Skye an island. I have list of about 24 islands not in Haswell-Smith's 'list by area' which are connected by bridges etc. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:01, 20 April 2007 (UTC) PS Thanks also for tidying up the Gaelic on various other isles. I wonder if you would you care to comment on 'Gaelic Spellings' at Talk:St Kilda, Scotland. (See also my talk page for more in this vein).[reply]

St Kildan House name

Are you sure the spelling should be 'taigh'. Quine uses 'tigh' as does the 'Revised Nomination for inclusion in the World Heritage Site List' [2]. Ben MacDui (Talk) 19:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ben More or Ben Mòre?

Re this commit. Ordinarily I'm in favour of including accented letters on Gaelic words, but should Ben Mòre really have one? Surely as an anglicization of Beinn Mòr (or a variant of that), the accent doesn't belong there? (I'm happy with all the others in that commit — it's just that specific one.) Would a Gaelic speaker write "Ben Mòre"? My Gaelic is practically non-existent, so I really don't know! — ras52 23:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be either "more" (accentless) or "Mòr" no "e" - I went through the mountain names with the replace feature on Word, so this is probably an error.--MacRusgail 14:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

St Kilda

Do you know of any academic papers or linguistic studies on the Gaelic of St Kilda? Deireann tú go bhfuil ard-Ghaelainn agat. Cé chomh maith is athá sí agat? Dá bhféadfaí teacht ar leaganacha bunaidh Gàidhlig na logainmneacha i Hiort, b'fhearrde an t-alt iad, measaim. An Muimhneach Machnamhach 20:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Chan eil mi eolach air fear. Is mor am beud. --MacRusgail 14:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Viking II (rocket)

Hi! Do you remember, years ago, starting an article at Viking II (rocket)? Looking at this now, I wonder if there's a chance you misread some source material. I've added a {{Disputed}} tag, though it isn't a dispute per se, just a possible confusion. Could it in fact have been the eleventh flight of a Viking rocket, i.e. Viking #11 that you were writing about? Thanks! (Sdsds - Talk) 04:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anglo-Scottish border

Hi. I was interested to see that you reverted my spelling correction of "humourous" to "humorous" (under my AWB account, User:Spellmaster) in this article with the edit summary "rv NB Humourous is actually a correct spelling". In fact, the latter spelling is the correct form in all dialects of English. See User:Spellmaster for details. Thanks for caring about the details of spelling, best wishes --Guinnog 21:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"HumOURous" is an acceptable variant - See here. Many English words such as "czar" have a number of variants which are acceptable across national varieties. --MacRusgail 13:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Humourous is not an acceptable variant, and dictionary.com is not a good resource for spelling. See Wikipedia_talk:Typo/Archive_1#Dictionary.com for an archived copy of a centralised discussion of this from last August. Here and here are two other discussions, and here is Oxford Dictionaries' view. Here is Oxford listing "humourous" as an error to be avoided (along with "honourary"). Essentially, dictionary.com seems to be the only source for this spelling being correct in the modern era. I noticed some time ago how prevalent the spelling error was on Wikipedia (and almost nowhere else in the world) and have been working on correcting it ever since. Every few months I do a trawl through articles using Google and replace ou with o. I am Scottish and was brought up with Commonwealth English spelling; I applaud you for standing up for national varieties of English, but I assure you this isn't the case here. Best wishes, --Guinnog 14:47, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why not just use funny and avoid the problem? Truthanado 05:58, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Funny" is POV. --Guinnog 06:00, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Funny" can mean "amusing", "unintentionally funny", or "odd". Humour implies that it is intended to be funny, even if it isn't.

Scottish place names in the USA

It's an interesting article you created. I'm sure other Wikipedians will add to it once they realize it is there. I live in New York State and I can't believe there are no Scottish place names in NY. There are plenty of English and Irish Gaelic, but I haven't been able to find any Scottish ones. That's either amazing or I am missing the boat. Truthanado 05:58, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There will be. As you appreciate, the USA has a vast population, so I concentrated on some of the less populous states to begin with. Then I tried to get at least one example per state. New England seems to be the hardest to get much out of, because many of the original settlers were Dutch and English, and Hawaii is also difficult, as many of the names are native. --MacRusgail 17:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Kiand is a wanker!

MacRusgail, I liked your remark about Kingstown, Ireland. That Cian is a wanker, just like the current Wanker of Rome, Pope Benedict XVI of Rome! He is typical of the Irish barbarians who are part of the P.C. brigade here on Wikipedia. He is so Britanniphobic, as he is after all, a supporter of Sinn Féin/IRA! - (203.211.73.10 22:47, 29 April 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Red Westerns

Hi MacRusgail, why did you just revert my change to Ostern? The phrase I removed, "to maintain their country" implied both a greater Red than Basmachi ownership of/right to the area, and also a solidly established country that the Bolsheviks were defending. IMHO, both are POV and inaccurate. How about "the Red Army was presented as fighting to maintain its country"? Moyabrit 23:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because I don't believe it necessarily means that. But anyway - How about "the Red Army was presented as trying to consolidate the victorious Bolshevik Revolution"? --MacRusgail 16:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mont Ross

Hi MacRusgail, I noticed that you changed the photo in Mont Ross. However, in a small article like this, it is better to add another photo instead of merely replacing the only photo. I have put the deleted image back in the article. Thanks. --Seattle Skier (talk) 03:49, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XII - May 2007

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Little England Beyond Wales

As someone brought up & living in Haverfordwest, I can certainly attest to the existence of "Little England". The Preseli mountains to the North provide a natural 'wilderness' separating North from South, and the industrial nature of Milford Haven / Pembroke Dock saw the immigration of many workers to the several Oil refineries and power generating facilities here in the 1970s (including my own family). A large number of the immigrant workers chose to retire here, having never learnt Welsh leading to reinforcement of that North / South divide. 

Neil in wales 18:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Cli.jpg)

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Cornwall

Some very interesting facts to be found in those links - thanks. My impression had been that Cornish nationalism as a fairly modern invention (or perhaps revival would be a more appropriate description) made its claims to being seperate from England proper mainly based upon their historically distinct language and culture alone both of which are, of course, irrelevant with regard to whether or not it is a part of England. Im quite happy to admit to being in the wrong. siarach 09:51, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hirta

I am assuming from your recent edit that you believe that 'Hirta' is an anglification, not a Gaelic alternate to Hiort. You may well be right, although the lack of an edit summary means I am only guessing. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:58, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, it's an anglicisation of the Gaidhlig name, rather than the original one AFAIK. Also "Hirta" violates spelling rules and "Hiort" doesn't. --MacRusgail 19:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fettes College

It makes little sense to delete just two years of academic results. It would be better to delete all the academic results - but that just leaves the material about a former headmaster, drugs etc. Surely leaving the academic results in gives a bit more balance? Dormskirk 21:40, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No it doesn't leave any "balance". What you put in was basically advertising. My problem is that I know a little too much about how these schools massage their exam figures. For one, they poach all the bright pupils from the state sector to boost the figures, and give them scholarships, and for another, they exclude certain people from sitting exams (usually the rich, thick ones who pay the fees!)--MacRusgail 11:08, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK. My point now is basically just a drafting point: taking your comment at face value the same point could apply to the other results listed. How about the following:

  • leave the 1998 & 1999 comments as drafted
  • amend the 2001 comment to read "In 2001 Fettes was declared "Scottish School of the year" by the Sunday Times"
  • delete the comments for 2002, 2003 and 2004
  • Insert a new comment "Fettes is regularly placed first in the list of Scottish Independent Schools by the Sunday Times"

In column inches this would be less "advertising" than currently appears. Dormskirk 20:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

stubs for South Georgia & tSSI

Hi MacR - you've done it again :) Thanks almost entirely to your efforts, there is now a separate stub category for Category:South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands geography stubs. (BTW, it was while dealing with this new category that I came across the Whaling stations category that we're currently wrangling over at CFD). Grutness...wha? 01:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Private Schools in Glasgow

Just wondering about why you are removing the category about Private Schools in Glasgow to just schools. Is this a wikipedia wide thing or just something you have decided? I’m not disputing the edit, just wondering why/how it is happening. Coolmark18 19:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean. "Private schools in Glasgow" was a new category I created, and I put it in two categories "Private schools in Scotland" & "Schools in Glasgow". --MacRusgail 15:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Cli.jpg

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User:AlexNewArtBot

Hi MacRusgail/Archive 1, as a WikiProject Scotland participant, please check out this this thread and consider adding the bot results page to your watchlist so we can manually update the New Articles page. There are some false results for the first batch, but I'm sure we can collectively tune the rules to improve the output.

If we get enough people watching the results page, we'll be cooking with gas as they say :)   This looks like a great helper in finding new Scotland related material. Cheers. --Cactus.man ✍ 01:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dyke Island

After a quick google search, I nominated this article for deletion as an obvious high-school hoax. After a slightly more thorough google search, I withdrew the AfD. You have brought two minutes of joy into my otherwise joyless life, and I thank you. -FisherQueen (Talk) 18:47, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Penguin

Hi. I took your statement about Auks and convergent evolution back out of the penguin article; "Considered by some" is weasel words - a statement like that would need to cite a source. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 22:19, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I took it out again. I know you think it's important - I'm sure you're right. Wikipedia's policy is that entries in articles must be verifiable. The policy is here: WP:Verifiability. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 18:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And I've put it in again. If a bloody academic paper isn't "verifiable" what is? No one's completely been able to prove evolution, but there's still an article on that too.--MacRusgail 19:02, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I apologise - I hadn't spotted that it had references with it this time. I've reformatted the references. I think the academic paper is more than sufficient so that was the only reference of the three that I left in - I hope that's OK. --HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 19:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kelping

I just noticed that you added a section on "Kelp in history and culture" to the Kelp article. This is a fascinating story I'd been thinking about adding myself one of these days. I wanted to mention that I don't think it was iodine that those kelpers were collecting: it was soda ash. Kelp was a poor way to get it, but the British were trying to avoid importing barilla (another, better source of soda ash) from Spain. One reason - probably the main reason - the price of soda ash declined was the advent of the LeBlanc process for synthesizing soda ash. The story is pretty much in the Clow reference I put in this article some time ago.EAS 15:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're probably right. It was a dreadful time in Scottish history - people who were cleared off their land in Northern Scotland were given this to do, because other than fishing there was no other employment, and then the industry collapsed. But I thought that it was worth putting in the references about the Highlanders and Falklanders. There's probably more - plenty of supposedly insignificant plants have cultural/historical associations.
Here's one interpretation though the website looks a bit touristy -
"One industry expanded hugely, while Britain was at war with France. Kelp was being harvested in huge quantities for the alkali that the ash produced. For a landowner on the coast kelp had two main advantages, it was labour intensive, and most of the profits stayed in the landowners hands. It was a more socially desirable industry than sheep farming as sheep farming required a complete reorganisation of the land, and eviction of tenants as little labour was needed. Both kelp and sheep farming brought higher rents."

--MacRusgail 15:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right. I think the effects on the Western Isles were also profound; I read somewhere that kelping led to a population increase there that was unsupportable when the kelping industry collapsed. I'll guess the Falkland Islanders were getting some of their hard currency by trading in soda ash also. Anyway, if you like I'll make a simple edit to change "iodine" to "soda ash."EAS 17:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's probably better. I think the problem wasn't a population increase, so much as too many people trying to live off it. It worked to begin with, but not later on. In the 19th century, they also had a potato famine which didn't help either - and the British Empire wanted people to move to the colonies, lots of push-pull factors in other words.--MacRusgail 18:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eilean nan Ròn

Thanks for the note. I saw the warning at the head of the article and double checked before uploading the image. Place names are always a bit of a banana skin for the unwary Highlands and Islands adventurer :) Cheers. --Cactus.man ✍ 19:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I was thinking of creating an article for the other one, but I wasn't sure if it was the right one. I'd have to look on a map. By the way, I've taken your lead, and uploaded some images from geograph on St Kilda etc. Took me a while to work out how you did it, so I wouldn't get the copyright bot chasing me etc... --MacRusgail 20:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, Geograph is an invaluable resource for images related to UK places. Sometimes there is a free lunch :) --Cactus.man ✍ 23:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Venetian Balls

Hi, I'm very intrigued about slipping masks? Can you divulge? Brendandh 23:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Me too. I added to the bits on the Lauder family's association with the Bass. I have re-read it and I cannot see anything overtly nationalist there. Regards, David Lauder 14:31, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See the edit history of the page. --MacRusgail 16:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I can't see anything. Maybe I'm a bit thick?David Lauder 16:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oh never mind... --MacRusgail 17:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Koestler link

Hi. I noticed you have troubles putting it back in and I dropped a note on the page. [3] As the posts above your question on Hu12's page show it is OK to add back in as long as long as it is within the general Wikipedia guidelines. It was removed because one of the people from the publisher's web division updated the link, because it broke when the site moved and there were general concerns about spamming and a wider link removal. The reply from Hu12 clarifies that as long as you think it is useful to the entry and your adding it doesn't conflict with any guidelines (I can't add it back in as I also have WP:COI issues) then there shouldn't be an issue. Anyway it is all on the entry's talk page and on Hu12's if anyone queries it. (Emperor 16:17, 24 May 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Ok, thank you. --MacRusgail 17:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Berwick

That's a good photo of the Elizabethan walls, but I wondered if you should not have said that? Also, correct me if I am wrong, but in the ajudication by Edward 1st at Berwick, de Bruce was only one of several competitors, and I thought it was The Bruce's father who was the claimant. Is that not so? Regards, David Lauder 17:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David, I was mainly going by what the placard itself says. --MacRusgail 16:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
p.s. You're right, I think it is his father, and he was one of several claimants.

Firth of Forth

Following on that reasoning we should have "(estuary)" after every "Firth" in Wikipedia? It's overkill - the blue link leads readers to fuller information. Thanks/wangi 17:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just because there are links there, do not expect every reader to follow them. There are, after all dozens of them in most pages, and foreigners may not understand that the Firth of Forth is not really a proper river. --MacRusgail 17:50, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Uhuh, but just the Firth of Forth? It's the only one singled out on List of rivers of Scotland for this special treatment. Compare the entries for Moray Firth, Firth of Clyde, etc ... It's inconsistent and redundant.
Should every "Water" or "Burn" have "(brook)" after it for clarity? Every "Law" "(hill)"? We use the proper names for things, if readers want to know what they are in greater detail they can drill down and read the article itself. Thanks/wangi 18:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps it shouldn't just be the Firth of Forth, however, it is given on a list of rivers and I think it's arguable that any firth or sea loch is really a river. As for "Water" and "Burn" have their own explanation at the top. I have explained "law" on another page. You've got to remember that increasing numbers of people in Scotland itself don't know their own heritage. I know someone who goes round schools teaching them about Lallans, and a lot of the kids don't know what a "burn" is. --MacRusgail 18:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name inversion

Re Christian Hebraist, I think inverting the names serves no function. At best the convention of surname first confuses search engines; here in an alphabetised list I really don't see it has value. Charles Matthews 18:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The names on the original list were inverted, that's why I've left that. In one or two cases, the surname is actually last. Which is another problem. --MacRusgail 18:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I suggest not inverting. It's an academic convention we can well do without. Charles Matthews 18:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From Modern Celts

Some of us have very long memories. I don't have you confused with someone else, you were that New Zealander who went on about Swindon, and know more about Scotland and Wales than anyone else who lives there. Anyway, it is NOT the Northumbrian tartan - that's a recent rebranding. It is from that region, but not just Northumberland.--MacRusgail 18:42, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I don't know what the hell you're on but that is NOT ME and I have no idea what you're on about. I was born in Swindon and I live in NZ. I profess to knowing about Northumbria. As to the tartan issue, you have your toy - nobody reads this crap anyway. Enzedbrit 21:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Modern Celts

On the discussion page I've received what appears to be a fairly nasty comment from a guy calling himself "Gazh" and ending, "Bollocks mate". Any idea what he's going on about? Millbanks 22:03, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Prospect 100 best modern Scottish buildings

Hello, as a courtesy I wanted to let you know I have nominated a category which you recently created, Category:Prospect 100 best modern Scottish buildings, for deletion. You may participate in the discussion at CfD; please make any comments on the proposal there. -choster 19:41, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Really? - this one slipped by me... --MacRusgail 21:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Loch Earn

You edited saying Loch Eireann meant "Loch of Ireland" not "Loch of the Irish". That's of course correct, but thought you'd be interested to know there is a hill loch in the hills just to the West of Lochearnhead called Lochan an Eireannaich. Not sure if that name dates from the same time as Loch Earn, or has the same roots. But there you go.

Gartnait 00:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gall-ghàidhealaibh

Nár chóir síneadh fada a bheith ar an gcéad 'a' in Gall-ghaidhealaibh? Do thugas fé ndeár go bhfuil sé in easnamh san alt i dtaobh 'Galloway'

Shouldn't there be an accent on the first 'a' in Gall-ghaidhealaibh? I noticed that it is missing in the article about 'Galloway'. An Muimhneach Machnamhach 11:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Air an darna "a", 's docha, mar sin - "Gall-Ghàidhealaibh"--MacRusgail 15:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Flag of Devon

Please refrain from repeatedly changing the flag of devon page. Your edits are in contrast with the consensus on the disscussion page and a verging on vandalism. Please stop doing this or read the disscussion first.--Greatestrowerever 14:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Translating pages using translation software

Hello, if you use translation software to translate a page like you did with Flora and fauna of the Kerguelen Islands, when you translated from the French wikipedia, can you please make sure the content makes sense and does not contain any untranslated words. For example the phrase As much the terrestrial vegetation is developed little, as much the marine flora is exuberant, in French the word "exubérant" can mean "exuberant" but in this case it meant "flourishing". Even without speaking French you can tell because plants are incapable of emotion. You can ask on Wikipedia:Translation, if you need help translating or proof reading. Jackaranga 01:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What sort of cleanup does Cerebus the Aardvark need?

Back in March, You tagged Cerebus the Aardvark with Template:tidy, indicating that you feel it needs "This article may require cleanup to meet Wikipedia's quality standards." It's not clear exactly what you think needs improvement, so it's hard to improve or even determine if edits since that have made suitable improvements. Would you be so kind as to provide some more detaisl and perhaps example at Talk:Cerebus the Aardvark? Thanks. — Alan De Smet | Talk 15:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You low life scum

What the hell are you? You are a stalker, a damned, vexatious, screwed in the head stalker. I have never been on any usenet. Don't you dare post my name.Enzedbrit 01:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the late 90s, I first got the Internet. I used to chat on friend sites, etc. As people were back then, I was liberal with my details. I was young, didn't care. I had a website up where I talked about my family, interests, etc. One day in a year before 2000, I received a phonecall from the UK. I don't know who it was. It was strange, alluded to the Internet and to me being someone in my 50s, living in a city about an hour from where I live. I received unsolicited mail too, readdressed to me but originally sent to someone at this other city. The man's name was very similarly spelt to mine, minus punctuation. I had also started receiving e-mails about my website from someone, I think in England, talking about my family, details on my website. It was very frightening. I had by this time stopped using my name on-line and left the net alone, dealth with life, university, relationships, etc. I started using the net again for posting, besides surfing, in 2005, hoping whatever had happened was over, whoever it was had died were they old or grown up were they young or found someone else were they a psychopath. I don't know where my name appears, who's used it, who claims to be me. Now I ask the question - are the that person who stalked me? Be honest. If you are, so help you. If you aren't, you'd be best to stop doing this to me. What you and people like you don't realise, or care to realise, is that you're reaching through the net and affecting peoples' very lives. Enzedbrit 01:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Allan, I haven't been stalking you, and I am certainly not responsible for your nuisance calls and emails. I keep on bumping into you - your contributions are quite distinctive - there aren't many New Zealanders out there who are obsessed with the Celticity of England to the point of misinformed trolling. Or connected with Swindon. Some of us have long memories, and your behaviour certainly jogged mine.
Personally I've never been "liberal with my details" for the very reasons you describe. I had forgotten what your name was, but could look it up in two minutes on a search engine quite easily through google groups (try it for yourself). However, some of your behaviour is pretty offensive, so that's quite probably why some nutter took a dislike to you. I'm very puzzled at your comment about receiving mail which had been sent to the wrong city, but with your name on it. If someone sent stuff in my name to Inverness, I would be very unlikely to receive it. I can only put it down to a very efficient NZ postal system, or the low population of the country. --MacRusgail 10:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I very well believe that you could be the one in question, and if you're not, you certainly do know facts about me, although are wrong in the application of them. The fact that you have just reposted my details on the discussion page in question shows that you are a very nasty piece of work. My obsession with the Celticity of England. Well, I'm more concerned with the correct acknowledgement of history and culture within England, specifically where I'm from, and that goes beyond Celtic identity. What I don’t understand is how this acknowledgement pains you so much. Do you really hate the English with such a passion? I can’t image what it’s like to have such misplaced energy. Like I said to you above, I had a homepage and it was there for everyone to see, on which I proudly spoke about my family and my identity and history, and that's why I retreated, because it was very easy for someone to have fun at my expense by saying or doing whatever, because it was picked to pieces, e-mailed to me, and has been used to a long-lasting disadvantage, by someone with too much time on their hands, just like you. As to offensive behaviour, you're a cyber-stalker, have crossed a very dangerous line and have just re-added my name to the forum - who is the more offensive? I certainly hope that you don't believe in fate. The letter in question I never opened. I don't recall what I wrote on it but I sent it back to where it was from, all I remember of which was a PO Box in the UK. Perhaps 1998. In NZ, it doesn't cost anything to forward mail and we do have a very efficient postal service. Anyway that's not important, none of it is. It was a long time ago, I was younger and didn't know the Internet, and unfortunately there are creeps like you around still today who think you're God. And my name is not Allan, so don't patronise me. The only reason you know my real name is because of the nasty actions of someone anywhere in the world. I can check my postings on the Internet. I don't bother looking at anything with my name on it from the late 20th century because there's nothing that I can do about it. I'm certainly not changing my name. I'm totally out there and don't keep secrets and there's nothing far out about what I'm saying to do with the North East of England, a region you seem to resent!
  • By the way, I am not calling people in Sunderland Geordies nor Novocastrians Makems. I don't speak for either of those places. Where we're from, we're Pit-yakkers or Makems, which is quite a new term, and some do call themselves Geordie, but I don't know of anyone so devoted to the place not to admit that we speak the Geordie dialect. And as to what else you know about me, I don’t care what has been written or said or you think you know, but I have no intention of moving back to England and I don’t think I ever did, but I am and will always be proud of my culture, as I have a right to be, and New Zealand is the only home I now know. Enzedbrit 11:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mate, your name is to be found (in all its glory) on google groups. The details are all there. You should have thought of this at the time. I try not to leave a personal trail behind, but even I do. It's one of those things, it's simply not a good idea to publicise yourself online, particularly when you have controversial views. Everybody puts stuff they regret on the internet, but in your case, you seem to be making the same mistakes you did years ago, that's how come I recognised you.

"Do you really hate the English with such a passion?"

No. I regularly travel in England, and have a number of friends there. English folk tend to be ignorant of Scotland, but it's not their fault. Some of them are more supportive of Scotland than certain Scots. England does have huge identity problems just now, and they're not going to be solved by plastic Celticity. The problem is that English identity has been hijacked by the hard right, but certain elements of the centre and left are finally making an effort to create a positive English identity, which I believe is much, much healthier than any "British" identity.
My point about "Geordie" is that people in that part of the world are notorious for having local identities that they know, but the rest of us don't. If you don't come from that area, the accents are very similar, but if you do, then presumably they're quite different. --MacRusgail 15:14, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know about these "Google Groups". I have looked. It's very painful to see that. I take it that you're not B. Young? He looks to have come from the Westcountry. That name rings a definite bell, and I can see why. 8 years ago, he would have been the one to start e-mailing me, use my webpage, all of it. Besides posting with my name, he looks to have parodied himself as 'Angry John Mush' too. The e-mail address given isn't mine thankfully but it is similar to mine. It's sick to do that to someone, especially as I was so young. I'm not going to bother reading them but it looks like he had some fun in that year. Enzedbrit 21:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found them by fluke. I got sick of google groups - too much like Groundhog Day, no useful function. I'm definitely not B. Young, but I don't want to give out my real name online. Like you've found out, it's not a good idea. I got hatemail from a Basque once - when I pointed out that I actually supported Basque independence it stopped. I've no idea what I did to piss him off. --MacRusgail 21:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't want to look but I am looking. Some of what is there is written by me, just not on that forum. I know it's my writing because it's from my website, such as about pom. It's either from my site or from postings I'd made before this guy came along that he's found. I know why I was right to be scared. I'm sure it was just one person whose legacy will haunt me forever. At least now I know that this is there so that I can be prepared if it ever gets raised. Dark days for the early Internet. As for the hatemail from the Basque nationalist, they would have been continually on breaking point so everything that would have been said that wasn't 100% behind complete independence for the Basques, and no doubt blatantly anti-Spanish or French, would warrant his abuse Enzedbrit 21:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I can see where this "Celtic England" thing comes from now. It looks like this guy was from Devon. Under my names are postings deliberately saying that I'm there to cause trouble. That is SO not what I would do. They've even seen me on the news once and posted that. It looks like it was over by mid-99, with one or two more in 2000. Well, if anything, thank you for showing me this. Enzedbrit 21:36, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since you were the one who brought all this up, for better or worse, you should know that what you've done has settled something but also done great damage to me. It's not good to know that one's own identity has been taken and used like this. At the time that all this was going on, I was attending university and having a normal life, ignorant and oblivious to this. Some of that time, I was living in the UK too, not NZ. I don't remember all that was on my website - it was at the most 8 years back - but I've just seen some of it on a posting. A British unionst first and foremost as I was and will always be, a nationalist has made an example of me, inspired it looks like my an Irish-American critical of my criticism for culture-starved Americans

Catacol Whitebeams et al

The Special Barnstar
For your many contributions to improving articles about Scottish islands Ben MacDui (Talk) 20:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A history of Stonewall.

Cheer up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScH0BldD1AQ&mode=related&search= Enzedbrit 04:15, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Isleornsay

Re the above having 'become part of Skye due to a combination of natural and artificial processes' - are you sure? If anything it should surely be the island of Ornsay istelf, not the village? Ben MacDui (Talk) 21:51, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous links

Your recent edits to many Falkland Islands-related articles included links to the page Spanish, which is a disambiguation page. This type of page is intended to direct users to more specific topics. Ordinarily we try to avoid creating links to disambiguation pages, since it is preferable to link directly to the specific topic relevant to the context. In future articles, you may wish to link to Spanish language or another article, depending on the context. Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. --Russ (talk) 13:27, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Historic Houses in Scotland

I wondered if you and any of the 'Scottish team' were aware that a "discussion" had taken place regarding this title and the decision taken to rename it "Houses in Scotland". Personally I find such a decision beyond comprehension. Is there some way this can be appealed? David Lauder 21:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

totally agree. --MacRusgail 15:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Clàrsach

I've just added some headings to the above article and shuffled the text around but I've left the Cleanup tag you inserted in place. I'm not sure what you consider needs to be done before it can be removed. Could you leave a note here or on the article talk page? Thanks Trugster 16:18, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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