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    February 23

    login problem

    while I did create an account, and perhaps cannot remember my password or even loginname, your help site for resolving such issues is incomprehensible and unusable. Short of attempting to create a new account, how can you help me resolve this? ALSO, you should not make it so easy to create an account without telling people how difficult it will be to login later! Randy Bedore, Shorewood (Milwaukee) Wisconsin <email removed> EDIT: even the submission of this help page in incomprehensible!!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.210.142.59 (talk) 00:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    We already have 47,504,334 accounts. Another one is no problem. Just create it and write down username and password. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Really its not hard to log in, just remember your Username and password, and set your enter in your email address, so if you forget your password you have it reset. Also this help desk is run by volunteers, unlike most other helpdesks, and I think the service that we provide here goes above and beyond what is required.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 01:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, the Help desk does require a new user to do something he or she might never have done before: edit a wiki page. A person must have some understanding of wiki editing before being able to ask a question. That is a little bit of a barrier to someone who is brand new, and already confused about whatever problem motivated the trip to the Help desk in the first place. A new user has to process this whole complex page using only short term memory, and that can be a strain. A word of advice to Randy: if you haven't already, try working through the tutorial. --Teratornis (talk) 07:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature

    Is there any offical place where I can get people to help code a new signature for me? I'm kinda bored of this one. BonesBrigade 03:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Here you go:
    [[User:BonesBrigade|]]([[User talk:BonesBrigade|Talk]])
    Enjoy. Now you can get back to working on the encyclopedia! Cheers, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 04:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Article That Needs a Lot of Clean-Up

    I found a Wikipedia article that needs a lot of clean-up, and the only editing I’d done before was correcting grammar and spelling, so I’m not exactly sure what to do. I don’t know how to place clean-up messages and if all the relevant ones should be placed in it. The article is "Inventive Spelling". It is biased nearly throughout in favor of inventive spelling, for instance, “[Traditional spelling] instruction does not tend to improve students' spelling on any words except those on the test,” is unsubstantiated and absurd. (My classmates and I learned it this way and developed excellent spelling skills in general.) I did add one item to the list of costs, though. It has two weasel-word phrases, “some research has shown”and “many educators argue.”Several sentences require citation. The references given are bare URLs, one of which is a broken link. I don’t have enough experience yet or good enough writing skills to overhaul an article. So, what should I do?

    I would suggest do some research and then start from there. Read a couple other articles like that to get a basic feel for how the formating should be and other stuff. Btw i already added a buuuuunch of tags as that will give you some ideas on what to work on. BonesBrigade 04:26, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Inappropriate use of templates

    What should we do when we see (assumedly unintentional) inappropriate use of templates? I'm thinking of situations like Talk:Andrew Harris (musician)#Continual Reverts of Off-topic & unencyclopedic entries. Talk pages should not be categorized as guidelines, right? Libcub (talk) 04:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    What about User pages, such as User:Cuyler91093/The Abridged Guide to Wikipedia. Is that an appropriate use of the Template:Guideline? Libcub (talk) 04:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I've removed the guideline templates from the talk page - The editor there was apparently trying to link to those guidelines, but did it in a really odd way. As for the user page, I think that should be tagged as an {{essay}}, but I'll leave it to the user to fix. You can ask them about it on their talk page if you like. Hersfold (t/a/c) 07:11, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Height/Weight conversions in infoboxes

    There is some dispute over whether to use height/weight coversion templates in wrestlers articles. The template does not use them, but some people insist on using them because some other infoboxes on Wikipedia use them. One of the problems I have with weight coversion template is that it adds their weight in Stones. Stones is a weight measurement that is no longer officially used. There are some people in Commonwealth countries who unofficially still use it, but using it would be like using other abandoned measurements like Koku. Any comments or suggestions? TJ Spyke 05:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You could just use the {{convert}} template which will show just kg and pounds. —Noah 06:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What has official got to do with communicating information? We don't add Fahrenheit, for example, because it is used officially somewhere, but because a lot of sources and editors use it. Of course, SI units should always be used in an article even if other units are used too; these are the only ones that are used on the basis of being 'official', but really because they are internationally known. 79.74.27.178 (talk) 01:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Indenting

    How do i align sentences? See here: Template:Malaysian general election, 2008. If u see under "National Front" there are a number of parties under this banner which have been indented. Then comes "United Pasok Momogun Kadazandusun Sabah", which is too long, and takes up two lines. The second line is not indented. How do i indent this? I tried reading {{indent}}, but its impossible to understand. kawaputratorque 07:20, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That's a good question. The long entry will wrap if your browser window is not wide enough. The line does not wrap when I view it at a screen width of 1200 pixels. Since we cannot predict how wide the viewer's window will be, we cannot predict where the line will break. It might be possible to manually force the line to break within the table cell, but I'm not sure. The indented lines use non-breaking spaces to create the indents: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;, which is not the best method, since it only indents the first line in a table cell if the cell contents end up wrapping. I can't think of a good answer immediately. --Teratornis (talk) 07:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I looked at {{Indent}}; the documentation is not exactly a masterpiece of clear technical writing. I suggest making a user sandbox page like: User:Kawaputra/Sandbox, copy {{Malaysian general election, 2008}} to your Sandbox page, and then you can safely experiment there, without possibly messing up whatever pages transclude the actual template. --Teratornis (talk) 07:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks again for answering. Oh, so i must be using a narrow screen monitor. Ya, i might try some of the templates found in {{indent}}. I have tried some but it didnt work. I'll c what else i can do. kawaputratorque 09:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    dispute

    Why is an article protected when there is a dispute involving its subject? 124.181.45.149 (talk) 07:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    See WP:PROT. --Teratornis (talk) 07:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Even though you've been directed to the above link, let's just say that protection for a short period of time prevents inflammatory edit warring and allows consensus to be reached via mediation and discussion between the editors involved. It's also a means of stability during an instable time. Wisdom89 (T / C) 07:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Problem article Pancreas--not sure what to do

    So I looked up the article on Pancreas and got the following: This. Not sure what to do with it, so I thought I'd start here :). --Silvaran (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks as though someone vandalized the page, I have reverted it back to its regular previous state and warned the anonymous user. Wisdom89 (T / C) 08:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you come across something like that again, just use the history section to compare an older version to the most recent. This gives you the option of rolling back to a previous version. Wisdom89 (T / C) 08:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    OK thanks very much, I'll do a more thorough check on the history next time.--Silvaran (talk) 08:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Filtering recent change

    Is it possible to filtre recent changes? For example, I can view only the recent changes on terrorism related articles? Or only the recent changes on United States related articles? Is it possible? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 08:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Special:Recentchangeslinked will give you edits to pages in a certain category or to pages that are linked from on the target page; for example: Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:Terrorism and Special:Recentchangeslinked/United States. Hope this helps. WODUP 10:05, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You can use this trick to create a sort of customised watchlist - make a subpage of your userpage (e.g. User:Otolemur crassicaudatus/Watch1), and fill it with links that you want to watch. Then click on "Related changes" in the sidebar when you're on that page, and voila! Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 11:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Update Required "Democracy"

    Address: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy

    The status of Pakistan is shown as "not free" which is ridiculous. Recently democratic elections took place and a new government is ruling so please update. Pakistan is a democratic country and is FREE. I am a borned citizen as to confirm this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.240.67 (talk) 10:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you mean the second map in the History section, then it looks like it was based on a study that took place before the recent election. If you can find a reliable source which declares that Pakistan is now democratic, then you can go to the article's talk page (Talk:Democracy) and discuss making the change there. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 11:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Regarding Chennai Tamil portal

    Dear sir/madam

    I found so many vulgar words in Chennai Tamil portal. Kindly delete that kind of words. Because it will affect our Tamil Language. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.145.125.100 (talk) 11:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I looked at the article on Chennai, and the Tamil Nadu portal, and didn't see any vulgarity. Wherever you saw it, it's likely that the page was vandalised recently. When you see that, you can revert it to a previous, hopefully clean version, yourself. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 11:46, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Sir What i am saying is, You just enter the wikipedia search box as "Chennai Tamil", and the chennai tamil portal will open and you can see the chennai tamil language in table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.145.125.100 (talk) 03:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Chennai Tamil redirects to Madras Tamil which is an article and not a Wikipedia:Portal. But I can see that Madras Tamil does have many vulgar alleged English translations. I don't know the language but I guess vandals had fun with the article by either picking vulgar Madras Tamil expressions or making fake English translations. Sorry but I don't have time to deal with this now. Hopefully somebody else does. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    Dear Moderator

    Reg. vulgarism in the article "Chennai Tamil"

    Vulgar in the sense that the article uses more derogatory and vulgar terms referring to sexual intercourse and genitalia. Not all people in Chennai speaks like this only the slums and fishermen do...Please refer to the word "thevdia paya"'s example...Tamil is a divine language and as Tamilians we strongly object this article. Contact any Tamil moderator and delete the vulgarism in this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.145.125.100 (talk) 12:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    Dear Moderator

    or else pls change the title as "Vulgar words in Tamil"! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.145.125.100 (talk) 12:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know the language. Are the Tamil words real and correctly translated to English, and the problem is only the selection of Tamil words? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Inapporiate Images

    The following images should be removed due to racist nature. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Maome.jpg#file

    Pictures of Prophets are not ALLOWED and are RACIST!

    Islam does not allow images of Holy people to be recreated in any matter form or way. These images and possibly others should be removed immidiantly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by -N34 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Your concern is appreciated. However, Wikipedia is not censored for sexual, violent, racial or religious material. See Talk:Muhammad/FAQ for some frequently asked questions relating to images of Muslim prophets. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 11:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Also see Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Muhammad image controversy, a proposal to revisit. • Anakin (talk) 12:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Bad selection of colours in <source> rendering

    Maybe it's just me, but some of the text colours used in <source> listings are almost invisible against the grey background. Here's an example: 

    void foo()
{
  s.cyan = 0;
  s.text = 0;
  s.is = 0;
  s.almost = 0;
  s.impossible = 0;
  s.to = 0;
  s.see = 0;
}

    If the cyan text looks OK to you, then perhaps this rendering might illustrate the problem a bit better.

    Would it be possible to change these colours so that they stand out from the background a bit more reliably? Or is there any way I can set up a custom stylesheet to change the settings in my own browser? -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 13:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Never mind — I added this to my monobook.css file and things look a lot better now. 

    .source-cpp .me1 { color:#499; }
.source-cpp .me2 { color:#499; }

    (Although I still think it would be a good idea to change the default colours) -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 14:10, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Infobox is messed up

    Kanzi
    File:Kanzibonobbbbo.jpg
    Kanzi of the Bonobos
    Born (1980-10-28) October 28, 1980 (age 43)
    United States Georgia State University

    Why are some parameters not showing up, and why are we getting all those extra curly brackets at the end? I've been scratching my head about this all morning.....--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 15:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:PURGE fixed the problem, no thanks to any of you :-P.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 16:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You never know, slightly more civility might get you a faster response next time - anyway, it can't hurt. SpinningSpark 18:56, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I wasn't uncivil until after no one answered my question--and even then I was only kidding. So I doubt extra "civility" would have impelled users to my aid in this case.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 19:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    So the section name was civil? Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 20:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It was maybe a tad vulgar. But my question was perfectly polite. I didn't insult anyone. Until later.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 20:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, just be more careful next time. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 20:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I'll be way more fucking careful next time. Thank you for your understanding.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 20:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    A more likely explanation of why no one replied is that he waited only a little over an hour—during which time the only post was the question in the next section. Obviously no one was monitoring the page during that time. His problem is more patience than civility. —teb728 t c 20:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I think so too. When I decided I couldn't wait longer, I tried WP:PURGE (because that seems to be a generic solution for every sort of display problem), and it worked.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 20:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Trying to add references

    Hello,

    We are trying to add references/footnotes to an article. We hit the <ref/ref> button which did add the reference number (ie. [1]) but when we added the link url within the designated area (something like add footnote text here) and then saved the page, the footnote numbers appear but not the actual links below the Wikipedia text. Nor are the footnote numbers clickable. How do we get the reference/footnote numbers to link to the actual footnote/reference below? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mass Animal Rights Coalition (talk • contribs) 16:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    What article are you working on? Not being able to see the article, I can't exactly answer your question. Is there a Reference section towards the bottom? Does it have "reflist" inside a pair of brackets? I place the reference website and then one space and then a plain text description of the website. Rocketmaniac RT 17:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    To make that a bit clearer, I think Rocketmaniac is saying write

    ==References==

    {{reflist}}

    at the bottom of the page, but before any categories, templates or language links. SpinningSpark 18:52, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yea, that is what I was trying to say. I just now learned how to type "code" without it actually taking affect. If you tell us what article you are working on, we might be able to help you more. Rocketmaniac RT 01:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See WP:FOOT. --Teratornis (talk) 19:03, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Can I get an electronic copy of a Wikipedia database?

    Does wikipedia provide access to an electronic database? More specifically, I am looking for a database, preferably in Excel, of a database of colleges and universities in every country except the USA. I require only limited field - Country/collegeor university name/ city or town. If I could also get the province, that would be ideal but not necessary.

    Thanks for any help/advice you can provide.

    Peter PfdBoston (talk) 16:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I presume not, and databases would usually be access files anyway. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 17:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I believe you can do this. See WP:DUMP. SpinningSpark 18:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    A lot of the information you want is probably available via a WP:DUMP, but because Wikipedia is not a structured wiki nor a semantic wiki, the information you want may not be conveniently available in Wikipedia's database. See mw:Manual:Database layout for details. The information you want may have some structure, in the form of infobox templates, category links, and so on, but extracting it and turning it into an Excel database would require some heavy-duty programming, since lots of different people edit Wikipedia's articles and they may present the same types of data in various ways. --Teratornis (talk) 01:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See the links under WP:EIW#Querie. You might get lucky with something there. Such as maybe:
    --Teratornis (talk) 01:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Use of Information

    Resolved

    I have written some text that could be added to the Ottowa page on wikipedia on my website:

    • The Future of Ottowa <link disabled>

    Could I use it on Wikipedia? Regards, --PUuoYeviGannoGreveN (talk) 17:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Only if you're willing to give up any copyrights on the text and release it into the public domain. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 17:29, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    But is the acutual text on my website appropiate for wikipedia? --PUuoYeviGannoGreveN (talk) 18:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    What text? I will issue an official warning on your talk page. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 19:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I SERIOUSLY ADVISE USERS not TO CLICK THE ABOVE LINK! Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 19:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Controlling the colours of links

    Resolved

    I would appreciate it if someone could tell me where to find a userscript or something that would let me control the colours of different kinds of links, specifially to make links I've previously visited show up in a bolder colour. When doing disambiguation link repair, I need to find the previously-visited link which is the disambiguation page, and I find it hard to spot because it's a purple which looks to me a lot like either the plain black text or like ordinary blue links. I'd like to be able to set it to red or something just while doing disambiguation. I'm using the browser Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.12. Thanks. --Coppertwig (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit User:Coppertwig/monobook.css (or change monobook to whatever skin you use) and add: a:visited { color: #777;}. This will make all visited links gray. You can adjust the #777 to whatever color you like. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 18:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It works! Thanks! I now see that that help page Help:User style sort-of explains that, though not really. --Coppertwig (talk) 20:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Duty Counsel - error/ommission

    Family duty counsel exists in Canada as well as criminal. We assist unrepresented parties in the courts with legal informations, forms and advice on family law matters for free if the clent is low-income. We can appear in court on uncontested or consent matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.70.237.13 (talk) 19:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    What does that have to do with Wikipedia? It is blatant advertising, which has no place on Wikipedia and is against wiki guidelines. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 19:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm pretty sure the OP is referring to our brief article on Duty counsels, which seem to be similar to a duty solicitor or public defender - I think this is a good faith attempt (perhaps imperfectly expressed) to correct the article which does only currently mention their responsibility in criminal justice cases. I'll see if I can find a reference to add it to the article. --Kateshortforbob 20:52, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, I'm sorry about the misunderstanding. I didn't mean to bite. Next time, please post on the article's discussion page to avoid confusion. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 20:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Just wanted to let you know I added a little bit. 24.70.237.13, if there's more information you think should be there, you can do as Dendodge suggested and mention it on the article's discussion page or even add it yourself; in case you didn't know, Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that everyone can edit, and we love it when editors add new information - with sources, of course! Feel free to ask if you need any help --Kateshortforbob 21:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Seventh-Day Adventist Church

    What is the best thing to do when the majority of editors of a wikipedia page are in a conflict of interest over their power to control the content of the page?

    In this case the editors in control of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church page are:

    1. Blatantly removing content on the page which they see as embarrassing about their organization, and reorganizing the page to exclude topics that they don't like.
    2. Adding content which merely promotes their organization.
    3. Refusing to allow others to add information to the page that they do not like, regardless whether it can be backed up with fact and citations.
    4. Refusing to make their page consistent with information on other related pages. (for instance, although the page on Restorationist church clearly states that Seventh-Day Adventism is a restorationist church, and as do many online ans offline sources, they refuse to articulate this on the page because they disagree with this.)

    I am not an antagonist of their church. I am just fed up with certain users of wikipedia with a clear conflict of interest taking control over a page to ensure that their organization is promoted, as well as removing and ignoring objective information that they do not like. 24.83.90.35 (talk) 20:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If the state of things is still relatively calm, the standard list of things to do when in an editing conflict are:
    • Try and work it out civilly on the talk page for the article
    • Try and contact the editors directly via their talk pages and work it out -- flexibility and creative thinking are key here
    • Ask an experienced editor for help at Editing Assistance
    • Take your case to Incident's Noticeboard
    Good luck, —Noah 21:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The Editor's index has lots of links under WP:EIW#Dispute. For example, see: Wikipedia:Controversial articles. As Wikipedia grows in importance and visibility, it's a wonder everyone with an ax to grind isn't trying to grind it here. Note that religious people have a particular challenge, because faith (at least among the Abrahamic religions) is fundamentally opposed to the neutral point of view. I suspect we can thank wikitext, in part, for having fewer disputes than we might be having: Wikipedia is baffling enough to the average person that it probably impedes many groups of religious or political fanatics from organizing quickly to commandeer articles. However, this process has already played out on some topics. For example, some creationists and conservatives slugged it out on Wikipedia before deciding Wikipedia's point of view was a bit too neutral for their tastes, so they left and started CreationWiki and Conservapedia, respectively. It sounds like these Seventh Day Adventists are earlier in this process, which may culminate eventually in a bunch of them leaving to set up a Seventh Day Adventist wiki where they won't have to pretend to be neutral (here's one that uses TikiWiki). If you want to confront them effectively, you'll have a harder time doing it from an IP address. Do you have an account? If not, I suggest creating one, and then start a user sub-page on which you document the behavior which you believe violates Wikipedia policy. Sorting out these disputes takes work, and you can help by documenting the offenses. --Teratornis (talk) 01:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for your help guys. Yes I do have an account on my home computer. I will try to work things out with those guys. I think that it is terrible for people to use wikipedia to promote any kind of propoganda. 209.121.155.196 (talk) 11:15, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You might look at: Wikipedia:WikiProject Atheism which says:
    • We will also help prevent religion-based censorship throughout Wikipedia.
    You may be able to enlist some unholy warriors to help you there. --Teratornis (talk) 19:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Editing a box in an article

    I'm trying to figure out how to edit the contents of the box at the top right of the article on the Nuclear program of Iran. It's a bulleted collection of links, but there does not appear to be any corresponding text in the article when I click "edit this page." I'd like to add some links and delete others. NPguy (talk) 20:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Go to page Template:Nuclear program of Iran. If you edit that, it will change the box on the page you were looking at. It's transcluded into that page with {{Nuclear program of Iran}} which appears near the top of the page within the edit box. However, note that that box is also included in several other pages. Go to the template page I just mentioned, then click "what links here" at the left, and you'll see a list of pages that include it. All those pages will be affected too if you edit the box. Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! --Coppertwig (talk) 20:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Br

    Is there any difference between the tags <br>, <br/>, and <br /> (with a space)? Thanks, Reywas92Talk 22:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    None
    that
    I know
    of. ---CWY2190TC 22:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    No, they are all turned into <br />.--Patrick (talk) 22:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Possibly by HTML Tidy, which would possibly make them different on another MediaWiki wiki where the system administrator did not install HTML Tidy and set up the wiki to use it. I'm not 100% sure about this, but I do know that different wikis running on the MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia may process HTML tags differently, depending on how their administrators set them up. --Teratornis (talk) 01:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Not on Wikipedia. The first is invalid XHTML while the next two are valid XHTML and essentially the same, although I think the space is neater. All 3 are valid HTML, I think, although I don't think the latter two were used often before XHTML. x42bn6 Talk Mess 20:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    February 24

    Fonts in svg file

    Why is it that when I create an svg image with the font Scriptina (using Inkscape) and then upload it, the font appears in Verdana? Sorry if this is an obvious question, this is my first time using svg files. Thanks! Deflagro C/T 00:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You have to convert a text to a path. In Inkscape, I believe it's Object->Convert to Path or Ctrl-⇧Shift-C (not sure about other editors, sorry). Good luck! Xenon54 00:20, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Alternatively, you could choose one of the fonts that are already installed on the Wikipedia servers. This would make it a lot easier for others to edit your work in order to make corrections or translate it into another language, for example. -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 13:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    2004 budget

    Run2bn8 (talk) 01:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)you said i could see the 2004 united states federal budget if i created a account so i did where is it i film everything; some think they can call me a liar my report is due monday it show there is a report but clicking on it only leads to more questions 2006 works 2007 works why not 2004 you mislead me[reply]

    Who said that you needed to create an account to see the federal budget? Corvus cornixtalk 02:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    There is an overall figure for 2004 at United States federal budget if that helps. SpinningSpark 02:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    And the reason you cannot see United States federal budget, 2004 is nothing to do with your account, it is because no one has written that article yet. That's what the red link means. SpinningSpark 02:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess you saw a message saying you could start the article if you created an account. "Start" here means to start writing an article. There was no existing article and only users with an account can create an article. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    HEEELP ME PLEASE OH LORD

    Maybe this question should be in the military talk page but also what is the project page? Okay to my second or main question, there is something weird going on when i go on to edit the bottom smaller box of Cyrus the Great, the info first of all is visible before you go edit it but when trying to edit the battles box there is nothing just blank in the editing part, press the small v as you know which means edit but there is nothing there i have to or if you can do it all over again or just put the first battle and ill add the other ones if your busy, and i dont know what to put in the first place and if i want to edit it, im afraid i destroy everything. but i dont know why its blank check it out comment on my talk and if you could in the edit put the info there i would love it, im a rookie with a busy life currently and want to donate my knowledge to Wikipedia, and if you cant fix it ill commentin the militaryhistory talk area, also if you could or cant fix it, comment on my page so i know you got this message, and thanks!--Ariobarza (talk) 02:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Ariobarza talk[reply]

    You need to edit Template:Campaignbox Wars of Cyrus the Great. Corvus cornixtalk 02:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That is true, but I too am curious why when you go to edit that box you get sent to "the Wars of Cyrus the Great" instead of "Wars of Cyrus the Great". —Noah 02:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Because the parameter 'raw_name' was set incorrectly. Fixed. Algebraist 02:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Please also be aware that the template is used in several other articles (you can get a list by clicking "What links here" while you are at the template). Be sure that your edits make sense in those articles also. SpinningSpark 02:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You asked "what is the project page?" If you ask this with reference to Cyrus the Great, then go to its talk page: Talk:Cyrus the Great. At the top you will see some colored banner boxes. One says "This article is within the scope of multiple WikiProjects. Click [show] for further details." You may have read someone's imprecise reference to one of those WikiProjects. See WP:PROJ for an explanation of WikiProjects. --Teratornis (talk) 19:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Counting new articles by user

    How may one find out how many new articles have been started by a given user? This is not a statistic provided by EditCount. Someone mentioned an admin or two who could work up the total, but the answer is lost in a sea of user talk pages. Please help! Zephyrad (talk) 02:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You may want to see this; I believe it lists a tool. Keilana|Parlez ici 02:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You can get recent articles from Special:Newpages but I don't know how to get the historical total. SpinningSpark 02:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Meaning of edicate

    I NEED THE MEANING OF THE WORK...EDICATE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.80.253.200 (talk) 07:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Try a Google search: google:edicate. It depends on context and is sometimes a misspelling of etiquette. Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    searching specifically

    currently there may not be an image search on wikipedia, especially animated images so if there is, how do i use it? if there isn't then how do i find images?

    165.21.154.109 (talk) 09:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    However i may not be able to read it since i can never find anything i want in wikipedia.

    Unfortunately, as you've seen, it's not very easy, as Wikipedia's built-in search engine quite frankly sucks. However, you can do a Google Image Search, and include the text site:upload.wikimedia.org in your search. This will only give you images on Wikimedia servers, and hopefully what you're looking for. Hersfold (t/a/c) 11:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You can click "Search" below the search box, and then check "Image" at the bottom of the window and use the bottom search box. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    layouts IE and Firefox

    Layout of images of victims in Ipswich 2006 serial murders.I have both open at the moment; IE spaces the individual articles out with their respective image, whilst Firefox bleeds over into the next section. I do not have the knowledge to sort it, any assistance gratefully received. Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 10:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    or better still tell me how to do it so that I can learn. Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 11:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Cumbersome but I think I have sorted it out the long way! Please take a look, if there is a better one please let me know. Ta Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 13:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Getting "Log in / create account" message on my talk page

    For the last several days, my talk page (and only that page) has been showing a "Log in / create account" heading. If I go ahead and click on it and go through the login process (including clicking "Remember me"), I get a "Login successful" page, but upon going back to my talk page, it still says "log in / create account". I tried logging out and logging back in--no effect. I tried clearing my browser cache--no effect. Every other Wikipedia page I go to is fine: I get the "Emoll my talk my preferences my watchlist my contributions log out" heading. I'm using a Safari browser, Version 3.0.4, on Mac OS 10.4.11, in case that's relevant. Any ideas on what's going on and how to fix it? Thanks. Emoll (talk) 10:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This sounds similar to the problem we've been having recently here, however the reports in that thread say that whatever the problem was, it has resolved itself. Try clearing your cache one last time, but if that doesn't work, I'd let the techies at the other end of that link know that something's still going on. Sorry I can't be of more help, but we haven't figured out what the problem was/is yet, and all attempts to fix it manually have failed. Hersfold (t/a/c) 11:19, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Fixed (I think). Per this, any such pages need to be WP:PURGEd. Algebraist 13:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It appears to be OK now. Thanks very much. Emoll (talk) 14:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    article deletion e.j. gold

    biography of e.j. gold. <section blanked as I am fairly sure it violates WP:BLP> gold is NOT a 'notable person' in any way shape or form. an e.j. gold biography is a sick joke. it should have no place on wikipedia. please make it go away. i can't do any more. thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.212.128.119 (talk) 11:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I have removed part of your post, as I feel it may break our policy on biographies of living people. Obviously, it is still visible in the page's history, if anyone needs to see it.
    Would this be E. J. Gold, described as a science-fiction author and jazz musician? Unfortunately, we can't make articles "go away", even if they are very upsetting to people. Obviously, you know of Wikipedia's deletion process, which is the main way articles are removed. However, in order for this to happen, the article must be failing one of our policies, of which there are many. From a quick read-through, I can't see any outright policy violations; I know you have said that you feel unable to do anything more, but if you change your mind, there has previously been a discussion on the article's talk page in Summer 2007, which you could re-open (bearing in mind, of course, our policy on biogaphies of living people). If you don't want to participate further on Wikipedia with this issue, perhaps you could discuss your feelings about the subject with someone in the real world you trust: a family member, friend or professional - I usually find doing this helpful. --Kateshortforbob 12:57, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (E/C) We do not delete articles about people because of allegations about them detailing their bad nature. We do, however, detail both positive and negative content but only with sources. Any negative content (especially in an article on a living person) must be sourced using high quality references, and must be written with a care not to give a disproportionate amount of space to critics, to avoid the effect of representing a minority view as if it were the majority one. I am not unsympathetic to your allegations, but they are just that, allegations backed by no proof we can check. So if you have high quality references detailing the "other side" of this individual, those can be added to the article with a careful eye toward not giving undue weight. Otherwise, they cannot. The article will not be deleted, regardless.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    RSS Feed for Wikipedia Pages?

    Can I get an RSS feed from a Wikipedia page? For instance, when someone makes a change to a Wiki page, I want to be notified via my RSS aggregator/reader. Or is there another way to accomplish this other than RSS? Tks. 75.107.103.109 (talk) 12:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    There is only an RSS feed for Recent changes. However, one of the perks of signing up is the ability to have your own "watchlist", which will list all the recent changes to pages that you are watching. Xenon54 12:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See Wikipedia:Syndication. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    There's rss feeds for individual pages on the history page. --h2g2bob (talk) 13:01, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Excellent information! Thanks so much! 75.107.103.109 (talk) 18:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Need help answering queries on Editor Assistance Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests

    There is a large number of unaddressed questions on Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests - could interested editors possibly drop by and see if they can lend a hand? Please and thank you. Anchoress · Weigh Anchor · Catacomb 13:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Re-direct

    I've created an article about Sir Degarè and would like to know how to have 'Sir Degare' (without an accented /e/) re-direct to the same page. Thanks. golden bells, pomegranates, prunes & prisms (talk) 14:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I have created a redirect at Sir Degare with the content:
    #REDIRECT [[Sir Degaré]] {{R from title without diacritics}}
    PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Tagging temporary facts

    Is there a convention for marking facts which are useful but expire on a predictable future date and will need to be corrected or confirmed then? For example, I recently produced a simple map, showing which political party was elected in various areas, which will become obsolete at the next election (date known). I realise phrases such as "as at" can usefully mark facts as temporary, but an automatic reminder would be helpful to prompt me or someone else to revise the map. Does WP already have anything along the lines of: 

    George W. Bush is the current US president. {{Category:Fact_expires_January_2009}}

    allowing helpful editors to search this month's category for pages to update? If not, does the idea of using categories in this way seem worth proposing, and if so where? Certes (talk) 14:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    As far as I know, this doesn't exist, but I think it would be very worthwhile, particularly in rapidly changing articles about breaking news events. AecisBrievenbus 14:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See {{Update after}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, PrimeHunter. Update after seems to be exactly what I was looking for. It's not for rapidly changing articles, but the article I was referring to will only change every three years, so it's ideal for me if not for Aecis. Certes (talk) 15:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:Avoid statements that will date quickly. —Bkell (talk) 16:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Moving article from User: to Main

    I have created a new article, draft, on my user sub page. user adrian142/draft of Whitechapel church, Cleckheaton. I now wish to transfer this to an actual entry in wikipedia, under the title, Whitechapel church, Cleckheaton. How do I do this without having to retype it all in under the new directory heading —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrian142 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you want to move it to the article space, you can click on the Move tab on top of your screen, and enter the new name. If you do, the article will be moved to the new name. I would recommend you rewrite the article though. It contains a lot of first person talk and original research. AecisBrievenbus 15:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    Near Duplicate pages

    What is going on here: there are two, almost duplicate, pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeval_(TV_series) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeval ??

    They now share much of the same text, but will rapidly diverge as people find and edit one or the other page

    Is there anyone who can fix this quickly? 210.17.195.50 (talk) 15:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    There are no duplicate article. Primeval (TV series) is a redirect to the article Primeval. That means that you will be led to the article Primeval if you enter Primeval (TV series). AecisBrievenbus 15:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes. By the way, the redirect was created by moving Primeval (TV series) to Primeval.[1] A move automatically leaves a redirect so links to the old name still work. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:11, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ARTICLES. See, e.g., the date style in the first para of each article:


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeval_(TV_series)

    Primeval is a British science fiction drama television programme produced by Impossible Pictures for ITV. The first episode was broadcast on 10th February 2007, and was renewed for a second series by ITV, which started on 12th January 2008.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeval

    Primeval is a British science fiction drama television programme produced by Impossible Pictures for ITV. The first episode was broadcast on 10 February 2007, and was renewed for a second series by ITV, which started on 12 January 2008.

    The redirect has failed in some way. 210.17.197.32 (talk) 16:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I think you are seeing two versions of the same page. Those dates were changed from "10th" and "12th" to "10" and "12" in this edit: [2]. Visit both of your links again, and be sure to click the Refresh button (maybe while holding down Shift) to get the latest version of each page. You should see exactly the same text, because they are both the same article. —Bkell (talk) 16:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Here is how to tell when one article is a redirect to another article: look at the top, just below the title. If you see a line of small text that starts with "Redirected from", then you are looking at a redirect. In this case, Primeval (TV series) shows that line at the top. Clicking on the link takes you to the redirect page itself:
    Another way to tell that you are viewing an article from a redirect is to click the history tab at the top, and see which article's history you are actually viewing. Redirects can be confusing and unobvious, so read Help:Redirect. --Teratornis (talk) 18:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    how to cite

    How do I cite another form of media? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emerybob (talk • contribs) 16:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you looked at WP:CITATION? SpinningSpark 16:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Spinningspark probably meant WP:CITE. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry, actually I was trying to get WP:CITE/ES, but that is the top level doc. SpinningSpark 16:10, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    please I nedd help with images not displaying in I.E. 6

    I would appreciate any help I can get truely desperate here I have a wiki based on mediwiki my users are restricted to i.e.6 for viewing my problem is that uploaded images (any file extension and Ihave correct extensions listed in my localsettings.php) are not showing on i.e.6 (will show on any of the newer browsers) the image is obviously there I have it to the left and ie is leaving space for it I know file paths are correct please please help me with any ideas you have Katelime (talk) 17:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    mw:Project:Support desk is the correct place to ask questions about MediaWiki administration. This Help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. I'll take a stab anyway. I'm not aware of any problem with MediaWiki setup that would block images for only certain browsers; that doesn't mean there couldn't be, but usually when people have trouble viewing images on a MediaWiki that other users can see, the problem is in the user's browser setup. See the links under WP:EIW#Browser for some possible clues. You did not say how many IE6 users have this problem. Is your wiki visible to the public? Lots of people here are running lots of different browsers. --Teratornis (talk) 19:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Adding to page called "World Egg"

    Too technically complicated for me to add online, but want to suggest adding to World egg article, from Martha Warren Beckwith's "The Kumulipo, A Hawaiian Creation Chant," (University of Hawaii Press, Honolulu, HI 1972 (University of Chicago Press, 1951)) the following passage re: Tahitian creation chant, recorded by John Orsmond in 1822, and edited by his daughter, Teuira Henry for the Bishop Museum. . . "Ta'aroa was the ancestor of all the gods; he made everything. . . .He was his own parent, having no father or mother. . . .Ta'aroa sat in his shell (pa'a) in darkness (te po) for millions of ages. . . .The shell was like an egg revolving in endless space, with no sky, no land, no sea, no moon, no sun, no stars. All was darkness, it was continuous thick darkness. . . .But at last Ta'aroa gave his shell a filip which caused a crack resembling an opening for ants. Then he slipped out and stood upon his shell. . .he took his new shell for the great foundation of the world, for stratum rock and for soil for the world. And the shell. . .that he opened first, became his house, the dome of the god's sky, which was a confined sky enclosing the world then forming. . . ." Hope this is helpful, ses —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.159.56.202 (talk) 17:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That's nice, but on Wikipedia we already have 6,831,868 articles, the vast majority of which need work. Thus the best way to help us is to help with our enormous backlog of cleanup tasks. For example, see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Citation cleanup and Wikipedia:WikiProject Fact and Reference Check. Also, there might be copyright problems if we were to quote an extended passage directly. See WP:NOTABLE and WP:RS for more information about what constitutes a worthy topic for an article here. Creating new articles is a perilous venture on Wikipedia, as thousands get deleted for violating one or another of our many policies and guidelines. That's why it's better for new users to learn Wikipedia editing by making small edits to existing articles, which are (usually) at less risk of getting deleted if they have been around for a while. --Teratornis (talk) 19:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See Creation myth#Pacific and Creation myth#Hawaiian. --Teratornis (talk) 20:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Inaccuracy about Couples for Christ (CFC) founder

    I am writing this letter to clarify about a misrepresentation about a Christian Catholic Movement called Couples for Christ. May I suggest that please get the facts straight because there is a legal ramification about regarding the truth about the founder of Couples for Christ. I believe the information you received about the Couples for Christ is from certain group that have something against the real founder Mr. Frank Padilla.

    Please look at this seriously since there are legal actions pending worldwide against the group.

    Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.24.155 (talk) 18:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Please do not make legal threats on Wikipedia, or your account may be blocked. That said, if you have sources which support your claims, please bring them up on the article's Talk page. -- Kesh (talk) 01:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Simple directions to get a new article uploaded

    I have edited some articles in the past. Now I have an original article to submit, completed in Notepad. What is the link to upload it? Or, what is the link to start a new page so it can be edited w/ Wikipedia tags? thanks. (Read for an hour without getting this specific "how-to.") —Preceding unsigned comment added by John M Eriksen (talk • contribs) 19:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    User keeps adding non-free images

    There is a user who has non-free images on his user page; I keep removing them as they aren't allowed, but he keeps reverting my edits. What should I do? --Noah¢s (Talk) 19:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Tell him why you remove them on his talk page and, failing that, report them to an administrator. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 19:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment, What User_talk:Noahcs is referrering to is the image of the Iwo Jima flag raising: Image:WW2 Iwo Jima flag raising.jpg. In the first place, Noahcs should have expressed his concern to in the user's talk page (which is myself) instead of threatening to report him, see:[3]. Then I would have, in a civil manner, explained to him that said image is not in my "user page", but is being used in my workshop (sandbox) in an article which is still being developed. I would also have told User:Noahcs that there is a statement of rationale use in the images' page as required by Wiki policy. I am an experienced editor and I am not nor do I intend to enter an edit war. However, to all those who have a similar question, I recommend that the issues should be discuussed in a friendly manner (without threats) with the proper parties involved in their "talk pages". Thank you. Tony the Marine (talk) 00:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • You're right in that the first step should have been discussion, however as Wikipedia:User page#Images on user pages states, "Do not include non-free images (copyrighted images lacking a free content license) on your user page or on any subpage thereof" - which means even if you're drafting an article to go into mainspace, you need to use a placeholder, which is why I will ask you (here and on your talk page) to remove it. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 01:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Best course of action with brewing problem

    Is AN/I the best place to report something that I feel is going to be a problem but isn't right now? I'm not sure if it's going too far. My problem is the difficulties we've been having at Smarties (Nestlé). User:RAYBAN has been blocked for today for violating 3RR, but I suspect it will all kick off again tomorrow when the block ends. However, this is my interpretation of comments RAYBAN has left, and perhaps others will disagree. Maybe we just need some more eyes on this? Skittle (talk) 20:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'd wait - blocks are not preventative in nature, although Administrators can take preventative actions. I'd assume good faith and see what he does when the block finishes. But WP:AN/I is a good place to go if problems occur. x42bn6 Talk Mess 20:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, thanks. I suppose it's not the end of the world if an article on a sweet gets filleted for a few hours. Skittle (talk) 20:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating an article

    I tried to create a page. I pressed "save" after briefly describing the changes I made in the provided space above "save". When I search my article, it does not come up. Did I do something wrong?

    Mercy girl96Mercy girl96 (talk) 20:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Your article may have been speedily deleted because it didn't meet our notability guidelines. WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN that one guy who buried stuff 20:58, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I thought the same thing, but then noticed there wasn't a notice on the user's talk page regarding it. Sometimes the articles are speedy deleted without an official notice, which really isn't good practice. When you create your own article be sure that it meets Wikipedia core policies of WP:NPOV, WP:NOR, and WP:V. I would familiarize yourself with these policies before clicking the save button. Before you go live, you may also experiment using the WP:SANDBOX. Wisdom89 (T / C) 21:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you create the article as "Mercy girl96"? You registered that username to recently (less that 4 days ago) to create an article. —teb728 t c 21:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    New accounts can create new articles immediately, I believe; it's moving a page they can't do for 4 days. --barneca (talk) 21:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Mercy girl96 doesn't have any deleted contributions, so her article wasn't deleted. The only edit attributed to this account is this question. Your account is very new; you didn't try to save this page before you created your account, did you? IP editors can't create new articles. If that isn't it, it was either a Windows glitch, and you've lost your work, or we need to know what the article was to see if we can possibly find another explanation. One more idea, before you close your browser, keep hitting the back button and see if you return to the edit window, and if possible copy and paste the text to Notpad or something so you can try again. --barneca (talk) 21:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    cite web template

    Did something get goofed up in the {{cite web}} template? When I do a mouseover on the footnotes there is about ten characters of spaces following the linked article title. It has been this way for a week or two.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 20:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    {{cite web}} hasn't been edited since November 22. Must be something else. ---CWY2190TC 21:09, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know how to read the code in my monobook or anything else that might influence my mouseover. Can anyone else identify possible suspects.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 00:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Signature

    The signature is the name and talk page. How do you make it so instead of (talk) it says something different? Imperial Star Destroyer (talk) 21:24, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You need to click on "my preferences" at the top of the page, and on the "user profile" page, you need to enter what you want in the signature box, then tick "Raw signature". See Wikipedia:Signatures for some more information on what to do. BencherliteTalk 21:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    How can i upload a photo to an article?

    Dear Sirs, I am interested in uploading a photo. to the Florianopolis page (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florianopolis) Image:Barra da Lagoa Surfing Beach.JPG which I successfully uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. It is a photo of a beach, Barra da Lagoa. The current Beach photo for Florianopolis, is not of a beach. it is a photo of a boat on a canal. Thank you very much, Paulsobe —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulsobe (talk • contribs) 22:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You simply type [[Image:Barra_da_Lagoa.jpg]], or something along those lines. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 22:36, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    After uploading it to Wikipedia. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 22:38, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    There's no need to upload it to Wikipedia if it's already at the Wikimedia Commons. You can use anything at the Commons just as if it were uploaded here. See Wikipedia:Wikimedia Commons. —Bkell (talk) 22:52, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See more at Help:Images and other uploaded files. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Barra da Lagoa
    For example, the image at the right was created by typing
    [[Image:Barra da Lagoa Surfing Beach.JPG|thumb|right|Barra da Lagoa]]
    —Bkell (talk) 22:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    YELLOWPAGES.com & YELLOWPAGES.travel on Wikipedia

    What are the steps required to have www.YELLOWPAGES.travel similarly placed on Wikipedia.org as www.YELLOWPAGES.com is? In particular, having a sub-domain extension like this: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowpages.com . Please advise.

    Michael Thompson Legal Counsel YELLOWPAGES.travel, Corp. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.87.134.68 (talk) 23:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    see Wikipedia:FAQ/Business#I_think_my_company_deserves_an_article_on_Wikipedia_but_none_exists._What_can_I_do.3F --YbborTalk 00:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Bot Question

    I have made a template called The Random Button if you haven't ever heard of it. It is a collection of articles and I edit and update the page each day. But in the future, I will not be able to do this. Can a bot pick a random button article, and give the sneak previews, and update the article automatically?--Nothing444 (talk) 23:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You might want to try posting this question at Wikipedia:Bot requests. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    February 25

    Feeback

    How do I give feedback to Wikipedia? I want wikipedia to include a 'highlighting' feature, when I read lengthy articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.254.31 (talk) 00:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:VPR is probably the place for it. What exactly do you want this feature to do, anyway? Algebraist 00:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you use Firefox all you need is TextMarker. A side benefit of using a browser plugin is that it will work outside of Wikipedia as well. —Noah 05:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    article message box

    I plan to nom an article message box for deletion as soon as it's moved from a user's page to template space - do they fall under MFD or is it somewhere else (as I plan to write the nom now and have it ready). --Fredrick day (talk) 00:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:MFD is appropriate. Wisdom89 (T / C) 00:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    thanks. --Fredrick day (talk) 00:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Templates for articles fall under Wikipedia:Templates for deletion. User space is in WP:MFD but you say you will wait until it's in template space. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, I'm entirely honest about this - I want it to be snowed, so that it stands as a precedent. --Fredrick day (talk) 00:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Scrabulous

    I do not know you, nor have I previously been in touch in any way, my son asked me to join him playing "Scrabulous", and I came on line with my Email and Password, and lo and behold the game came up. My son, apparently entered a word on your Gameboard, and I tried to make a word from it, but my word wasn't accepted, that is your game would not accept it, my son never got the chance to even see the word. The word was, 'nears', a perfectly good English word, and having played Scrabble before, it was well within the rules for Scrabble. Why, could I not play the game? Why could I not log in, which I also tried? What is different about your game, that prevents me from playing? John —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.167.19 (talk) 01:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.8 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 01:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't find the correct template.

    I saw a template once, it was along the lines of "This article is a FA on the German Wiki, you may be able to use information from there to add to this article." Or something similar. Any help or was it a custom made?? Stepshep (talk) 02:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Try {{FAOL}}, which I think is what you're after. See also Wikipedia:Featured articles in other languages. BencherliteTalk 02:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    That's it! Thanks! Stepshep (talk) 02:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Inline math

    I'm often tempted, where possible, to change those horrible little spidery renderings of inline math into ordinary formatted text. Then sometimes I think I should leave them alone as one day this might be fixed so they display nicely. Is there any official line on this? Matt 02:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC).

    See Help:Displaying a formula. It shows how to force an image on a formula for all readers, or an image on all formulas for your account. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, I know how to do that, but it doesn't solve the problem. When you have, say, just a variable name or a very short expression in amongst ordinary text, the huge-type format looks even worse than the spidery format. Matt 02:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.48.221 (talk)
    Not sure what you mean exactly by spidery format, but I think what we're supposed to do, usually, is something like this: ''x''<sup>2</sup> = ''y'' which displays as x2 = y when representing formulas within text. Wikipedia:Manual of style (mathematics) says "Having LaTeX-based formulas in-line which render as PNG under the default user settings, as above, is generally discouraged, for the following reasons...". When displaying formulas by themselves set apart from the text, (display mode), it's fine to use LaTeX (<math> tags.) Theoretically, I prefer using math tags all the time, but I go with what the Manual of style says since I guess that's the consensus. --Coppertwig (talk) 04:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The section that you highlight just says that you shouldn't use inline math that renders as a graphic (like ). It doesn't say anything about changing "spidery format" inline math that doesn't render as a graphic (like ) to ordinary formatted text (like x2 = y). However, reading on a bit, in the next section, "very simple formulas", it goes on to say, of "LaTeX rendered as HTML" versus "regular HTML": "Either form is acceptable, but do not change one form to the other in other people's writing. They are likely to get annoyed since this seems to be a highly emotional issue. Changing to make an entire article consistent is acceptable." This answers my question, so thanks for the pointer! Matt 12:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.168.133 (talk)

    Need assistance on upoading an image

    I recently wrote the article King Goldemar, about a character from German folklore. I've found a nice, public-domain image of Goldemar on Google Books, for I'm having trouble figuring out how to upload it. I'm in Japan, and Google Books blocks lots of public-domain sources to visitors from outside the US (I supposed to sidestep international copyright issues). At any rate, the work in question was published in 1877 and should present no problems. I can access the book through a proxy server, but the proxy doesn't let me download the freely available PDF provided by Google.

    I guess that's a long way around to my request: Could someone please get the image from p. 134 of this book and upload it to Commons? I can then use it in King Goldemar. Thanks for any help! — Dulcem (talk) 03:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If you make a request at Wikipedia:Images for upload, the editors there will confirm the license of the image and upload it for you. Since PDF's don't really display well, they may be able to convert it to another format for upload for you. Hersfold (t/a/c) 04:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, OK. Didn't realize there was another place to request help for this. Thanks! — Dulcem (talk) 04:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    BLP violation

    I believe there is a serious BLP violation at J Stalin, claiming the rapper sold drugs, this is potentially libel. It is only sourced claiming it is mentioned on his album notes. However this rapper is not signed to any label besides his own which he is the only artist on. The album is not available in any stores. Therefore the source is completely unverifiable and potentially false. This violates BLP as it is a bio of a living person and regarding a negative aspect. Any thoughts?Icamepica (talk) 04:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I deleted the statement about selling drugs from the article and explained why on the talk page, citing WP:BLP. --Coppertwig (talk) 04:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Whenever you encounter a potential WP:BLP violation - an unsubstantiated controversial claim - feel free to remove the statement on the spot. Wisdom89 (T / C) 05:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Well there are WP:OWN issues with user wikidemo, and user boomgaylove whiched tried to removed the content was blocked for 3RR violations, and was chastized for citing BLP and later permanently blocked.

    I also think the information about him selling candy on BART as a child should be removed. Its also libelous, emabrassing, uses same source as drug dealing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Icamepica (talk • contribs) 05:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    user wikidemo reverted my removal of the selling candy on the bart train, and also removed my {{fact}} on the non contentious claim that he started rapping at age 13 which is cited based on unpublished album notes which cannot be found. this is on the J Stalin article, would someone intervene and revert and also discuss?Icamepica (talk) 07:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Please be careful about getting involved without first taking the time to understand the issue. The person raising this issue is a contentious editor and accused WP:SOCK who seems to be forum shopping and has been canvassing to try to delete the material and knock me off of troll patrol. The material in question was added a while ago and seems to be from an interview with the subject of the article, published in connection wtih his own album. The editor has already edit warred and started AfD on two articles, the matter is on AN/I and as a report of suspected sockpuppetry. All of this is following the edit patterns of a puppetmaster who was just banned indefinitely for this. We really ought to sort the sockpuppetry issue out first, then figure out what's going on with the articles. Wikidemo (talk) 10:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The unavailable liner notes don't seem to be a reliable source, that puts this at a BLP violation, as the original author mentioned. If you can't provide reliable proof for the contention, it has to be removed. Corvus cornixtalk 00:08, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I've listed this at WP:BLPN. It's already at WP:RSN, and there, a reviewer has indicated that they don't think the source is appropriate. Corvus cornixtalk 00:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    As I have mentioned umpteen times and places, it is reliably sourced. It is a pain to get dragged into yet another fork of this discussion created by the sock to wikigame. Wikidemo (talk) 01:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Someone has registered an external domain name....

    ...that links to an article on wikipedia. http://www.coachkdome.com links to the article Dean E. Smith Center. Is this allowed? "Coach K" is the coach of the rival Duke University, and this is some sort of prank by a Duke fan. Ebtunc2006 (talk) 04:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia can't control what people do outside of Wikipedia. The Domain Name System something entirely removed from the control of the Wikimedia Foundation. Oh, and Duke sucks. (little joke). —Noah 05:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not "not allowed", but it is a bit rude. They've used a frame to mask the real URL of the Wikipedia page. No matter, it's probably harmless. • Anakin (talk) 20:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    new page

    bonni allen


    Bonni has over 17 years of experience in the entertainment industry. For over 5 years Bonni worked with two film/media funds as Director of Acquisition/Creative Executive. She has been responsible for bringing in projects from and developing relationships with some of Hollywood’s major producers, including Jonathan Sanger, Lawrence Gordon, Steven Soderbergh, The Farelly Brothers and Penny Marshall.

    Bonni is unique in her ability to work closely, and cooperatively, with writers, producers, talent agents and managers. She can analyze any pitch almost before it is over and she has the unique ability to make anyone sit down and listen to her ideas. Bonni’s success is built upon three key attributes: her instinctual knowledge of talent and marketable intellectual properties, her creative writing abilities which enables her to develop projects, and the respect given to her by the Hollywood community based on her honesty, professional relationships and her background as a casting director and the former owner/founder of a bi-coastal talent agency.

    Bonni has worked freelance negotiating and drafting deals in New York and Los Angeles on various film and television projects. She has been intimately involved in negotiations for several feature film projects in the $5 million to $40 million-dollar range.

    Bonni’s career took off in the late 1980’s when she opened a talent agency in New York City. Her agency successfully represented film, television and Broadway actors. Within two years her agency enjoyed the reputation as one of the strongest boutique agencies on the East Coast. Her client Jason Alexander was hired to play George on the wildly successful TV series Seinfeld: At that point Bonni moved to Los Angeles to open a branch of her agency. Bonni's bi-coastal agency continued representing TV and Film actors until she decided a career change was in order and she became a casting director.

    As Director of Talent for an independent film company, Bonni cast six independent films. Her duties included contract negotiations for the directors and writers as well as the actors. She saved several productions more than 30% on their budgets via her negotiations. She became co-producer on three of the films.

    Bonni became one of the first executives hired by Studio M/Weberworks, a nationwide cable television network reaching an estimated thirty million homes. As Creative Executive in charge of acquisition and development of new projects and casting, she was responsible for seeking out, developing and pitching new TV and Film projects and negotiating all talent-related contracts.

    In addition to her accomplishments listed above, Bonni is an ABA certified corporate/litigation paralegal with a specialty in entertainment. She has also worked in the area of development on a freelance basis for studios and independents including Kennedy/Marshall, New Regency, Lion’s Gate and others. Most recently Bonni was the Casting Director for Six TV Movies.

    Presently Bonni is attached as a Producer on a Steven Soderbergh comedy, as well as two other independent films. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nevergrl (talk • contribs) 06:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply]

    I think what you're looking for is Articles for creation, however as you are a registered user, you are also able to post this article yourself. Here are some tips on how to do so:
    The pages at Help:Starting a new page and Wikipedia:Your first article should have most of the information you need. Before you begin, please carefully read through our policies and guidelines on notability, citing reliable sources for verification, neutrality, and formatting and article layout, where many new users commonly make mistakes. You may also want to consider checking out what Wikipedia is not, the deletion policy and criteria for speedy deletion so you know specifically what to avoid when writing your article. I hope this helps. Hersfold (t/a/c) 13:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    neighborhood notability

    is there a policy on what makes an artice about a neighborhood notable? i believe i read it once but can't locate it. and i believe it stated that a neighborhood must have wide notability, or a neighborhood council, be a elected council district or frequently appear on maps, or appear in real estate listings for a long with with well established and specific boundries. cany anybody help? this is regarding a claim i am lying on the Afd of Cypress Village, Oakland, California which is completely unreferenced and not even a neighborhood its public housing.Icamepica (talk) 06:53, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hmmm... given your J Stalin entry on this page earlier today me thinks there might be some WP:CANVAS issues goin' on here. Just a thought. On a humerous note: a neighborhood is just a housing project with an army of realtors. Cheers, —Noah 07:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry didn't mean to break any rules. Its all true though, not really my opinion. Very funny. Whats a good way to get some opinions anyways, not that i was looking for them. I am seriously just looking for the criteria for neighborhoods.Icamepica (talk) 07:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This — Wikipedia:Notability_(Places_and_transportation) — is the semi-official guideline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noah Salzman (talk • contribs) 07:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    text format?

    Hi

    What screen font(s) do you use for Wikipedia? When I copy articles to my hard drive for reference, I get a "generic" ouput therby losing the format you've used.

    Paul M Pettigrew —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul M Pettigrew (talk • contribs) 07:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm pretty sure the font we use is Arial, however I may be mistaken. You may want to wait a while to see if someone contradicts me. Hersfold (t/a/c) 13:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia's default MonoBook style uses the default browser's font, which is usually Arial.
    What browser are you using? --grawity talk / PGP 15:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I think mine (the latest firefox) is Verdana. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 15:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Why Vandalism?

    i have received a warning for vandalising pages i have never visited.This allegation has caused me mental agony.Please do not send any of these unjust warnings again. Could you give me an email address where I can explain my position? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.42.21.53 (talk) 10:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sorry to hear that - most likely the problem is due to your using a shared IP address, that is used by many people at various times, including someone who did make vandalism edits. If you would like to avoid receiving these warnings in the future, you are welcome to create an account. Any contributions made by your IP address cannot be connected to your account, once created. I hope this helps. Hersfold (t/a/c) 12:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You can read more about IP addresses at IP address. The IP address used in your post has made many vandalism edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:10, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    TV

    Resolved

    Hello , My question is: can I receive digital tv on a tv with an analog tuner? Thanks for your answer in forward,

    Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 6262pb (talk • contribs) 12:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I haven't the faintest idea, but I suggest asking a cable technician or someone else who is more familiar with television systems. As this is the Help Desk for Wikipedia, we are only able to help you use Wikipedia, not fix your TV. Hersfold (t/a/c) 12:59, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    math

    Resolved

    2+2 is what —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.44.33 (talk) 14:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    4. Next time please use the Wikipedia:Reference desk. Vivio TestarossaTalk Who 14:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    IP address

    Resolved

    Hiya. Is it possible to check the IP address of a newly registered account? --Stenun (talk) 15:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Accounts can edit from multiple IPs, there might be a way to view the one they created under but I'm not entirely sure. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 15:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Well then is it possible to view the IP address a certain edit was made under, even when made under a newly registered account? --Stenun (talk) 15:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You may not see the IP address associated with an account. See WP:CHECKUSER. —Noah 16:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, this is a better reference for the Checkuser Policy. —Noah 16:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Then is it possible to please request a check on someone? I am fairly certain that a newly registered account (as in, registered this morning) is a sockpuppet of an IP address that has been trying to hijack an article for a while now. But obviously I need to be sure of that before I respond to them on the talk page. --Stenun (talk) 16:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If the article's semi-protected they'll have to wait 4 days before they can edit it and if they repeatedly vandalise it they may end up blocked from editing. By the way, what makes you think the new user is the same as the IP? Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 16:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Unfortunately, the article is not currently protected at all. There are several factors that make me think it's the same person, including timing (this new user conveniently shows up after the IP Address had been told off several times - the one and only edit of this new user is to comment on the talk page), style (it reads much like previous comments by the IP address) and content (it tells everyone to stop being so silly then directly criticises legitmate edits but ignores other less helpful edits). --Stenun (talk) 16:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Edit: Of course, it could genuinelly be what it says and who it implies it is from - the signature implies personal knowledge of the subject in question - but I really would like to know for sure. --Stenun (talk) 16:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    As the Checkuser policy states, looking up an IP is a last resort. If this is just the normal run-of-the-mill edit conflict then it is best to just try and work it out (even if frustrating) on the article's talk page. If this is a serious and on-going problem then you might bring it up at the Incidents Noticeboard. —Noah 16:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, thank you. --Stenun (talk) 16:47, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Errata in TV shows

    I was wondering if there is a Wikipedia guideline for discussing errata in articles about TV shows. It is human nature to point out an error if you see one, but people seem to do so without regard to Wikipedia's policies on OR. So, two questions: (1) suppose the discussion of an error is NOT original research (i.e. IS verifiable from a reliable source), but the error is a technical one and does not affect the plot or themes of the TV show. Should it be included? (2) Suppose the claim of error CAN be supported by external links, but the links do not specifically address the TV show. Should it be deleted for OR? I was specifically wondering about the discussion on this talk page in which the TV show apparently made a blooper about inheritance of blood types. Fortunately it does not seem to appear on the main article (which sucks, for other reasons), but I was hoping for some clarification on this issue. Fritter (talk) 15:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    If there's an error and you have sources to prove so, change it If you're not sure, discuss it on the article's talk page. Wikipedia can not just sit there with an error in it. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 16:19, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If I was unclear, I meant the error was in the TV show, not in the WP article. I wanted a perspective on whether WP articles should discuss purported errors in TV shows. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fritter (talk • contribs) 16:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If the error is notable (not just trivia) and verifiable, and you can provide references to reliable sources that give significant coverage to the error, then feel free to add it to the appropriate article. —Bkell (talk) 16:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Every show also has actors and a plot; that is not a reason to refrain from writing about them. If Wikipedia's goal is to make "the sum of human knowledge" freely available, then I can't imagine how anything else we might write about a television show could be more important than pointing out errors of fact in a show whose setting includes elements that purport to be real. Obviously, a show set in a realm of complete fantasy might feature absurdities such as talking animals and so on, but most people understand that real animals generally do not converse like humans. A show like ER (TV series), on the other hand, while having fictional plots and characters, includes elements of realism most viewers won't know in detail. If an encyclopedia does not correct the incorrect beliefs viewers may form as a result of watching a show, why do we call ourselves an encyclopedia? We would be no better than a semi-literate extension to illiterate pop culture. Just my opinion. --Teratornis (talk) 18:16, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for your perspective, Teratornis. I don't quite agree with you, mainly because it's an invitation to violate Wikipedia's No Original Research guidelines, but also because some errors may be so small that they amount to trivia, and WP frowns on trivia. But what is a significant error and what is trivial seems like a gray area, which is why I wanted to see other people's opinions. However, I'm going to take Gtstricky's advice and post my question to the talk page at Wikipedia:WikiProject Television, which seems like a better place for the question. Fritter (talk) 19:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Reporting a factual error in some aspect of a TV show which viewers might reasonably interpret as a statement of fact would only be original research if the contributor was reporting a fact with no reliable source. For example, someone might have personal unpublished knowledge that a factual-sounding claim in a TV show plot was incorrect - that would be original research. If, on the other hand, a character in a TV show made a statement of fact we know to be wrong (such as denying the Holocaust), and no other character on the show addressed that error, then we could certainly provide reliable sources to support our claim that the show contained an uncorrected error. However, if for some reason it is controversial to have a factually accurate Wikipedia, there are lots of other wikis about TV shows, many having different content policies; see: wikiindex:Category:Television. You might mention that in your further discussions. In my experience with content disputes, people find it easier to reach consensus on Wikipedia when they can find safe outlets elsewhere to get their POV on. I think only a masochist could remain neutral on every subject at all times. Editing on Wikipedia is, in some ways, like holding one's breath. Even a whale must eventually come up for air. --Teratornis (talk) 03:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Start of a section

    This is probably not compulsory but i think it is a good idea if a section has a short summary at the start or at least something at the start introducing it. If one exists, can someone point me in the direction of a template which shows a section needs this (I'm going to guess it is a cleanup template)? If one does not exist, should i create it? Simply south (talk) 17:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Usually the only section that requires a summary is the WP:LEAD. Although, it is not uncommon for a section to be subdivided into smaller sections. These usually have a an introductory paragraph before the breakdown. The cleanup template is really a general notification to editors that the standards of the article aren't quite optimal. Wisdom89 (T / C) 17:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I would tend to agree with you, Simply south, but I don't think that a template is a good idea. If you come across something like this, just write a sentence or two to serve as an introduction, so that you fix the problem right away. —Bkell (talk) 17:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hypothetical questions get hypothetical answers, which may or may not apply to whatever specific example(s) motivated the question. It's like asking people to shoot at a target without telling them which target. On Wikipedia, one size does not fit all. Our guidelines are fantastically complex, and growing steadily more complex, because Wikipedia has many articles on many subjects, leading to many different kinds of articles. If the section you have in mind seems to need an introduction, perhaps it has become too large. If so, see: Wikipedia:Summary style and Wikipedia:Article size. --Teratornis (talk) 18:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Permanent Link

    What is the purpose of Permanent Link in the Toolbox Pane?

    --Navstradomous (talk) 18:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Change is the very nature of Wikipedia articles. Sometimes you want a "snap shot" of an article at a particular revision — either for yourself or to send to a friend. The Permanent Link feature lets you do that. You may also want to cite an article in a school or work paper in which case it is best to cite a static version of the article. —Noah 18:15, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Also see Permalink and Help:Page history#Linking to a specific version of a page. --Teratornis (talk) 18:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Movies of Tito Gobbi

    I am looking for the movie 'Davanti A lui Tramava Tutta Roma' starring Tito Gobbi and Anna Magnani. possibly made in the 1940's; Also the movie 'O Sole Mio' - if possible I would like a 'link' to contact Mrs Gobbi and or her daughter Cecelia or whoever is in 'charge of keeping the music and memories of Tito Gobbi alive to the public. I have always been a fan of Mr Gobbi and am collectiong as much of his music and movies that I a able to find. Thank you, Loretta Giordano24.99.75.171 (talk) 19:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC)°19:14, 25 February 2008 (UTC)24.99.75.171 (talk)[reply]

    I am afraid Wikipedia cannot help you there. Your best bet would be to contact Tito Gobbi's agent or record label. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 19:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Vertical Text

    Is there any way to flip text vertically for a table? I tried using the code from here [4] but it doesn't seem to work. --Superneoking (talk) 19:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't see a way but look here: Wikipedia:Wikitable GtstrickyTalk or C 19:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Not possible. The method described on that page uses a proprietary Internet Explorer filter to do it, but it won't work in other browsers. Some tables like the one at Eurovision Song Contest 2007#Score sheet get around this by doing each piece of vertical text as a separate image. • Anakin (talk) 20:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Incoming/Outgoing page links (Backlinks and What links here) issue

    Hi everyone,

    I'm sorry if this has been asked/answered before, but I wasn't able to find any info on this specific problem when I searched the archive.

    I am interested in gathering a list of links to and from a page. To get the links to a page (Backlinks), I use the 'what links here' tool. now the problem is that certain included templates skew the results for me in pages like FOXP2. Most of the pages that link to FOXP2 such as P53 (protein) don't actually directly link to FOXP2, but instead link to a template (Template:Transcription factors). However, the "What links here" doesn't make a distinction that page A->C only because A->B->C. After reading up on it, I was under the impression that there should be a "(inclusion)" next to the entry, but that is not the case.

    I have the same problem using the /w/api.php or /w/query.php tools for outgoing links from a page - these templates really inflate the listings. I was able to partially solve the problem by screen scraping the pages I am interested in for outgoing links (but that feels really sloppy to me and a waste of Wikipedia's Bandwidth). Since I am basically doing a count of these tyeps of links, the templates greatly increase the results (like a 20 to 450 count difference). Is there anyway I can get the results that I am looking for? Thanks! JonSDSUGrad (talk) 20:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I see what you mean, but distinguishing between direct links and transcluded ones isn't currently possible with the MediaWiki software. The pagelinks table in the database, which the 'What links here' feature uses, stores only three things for each row: (1) The ID of the page the link is from, (2) The namespace of the page the link is from (so that filtering by namespace can be done efficiently), (3) The title of the page it links to. The table is updated after a page has already been built from all its transcluded templates, so the distinction between direct links and transcluded ones is lost. Not sure there's any easy workaround to that, unfortunately, unless someone knows of an external tool that can do it. • Anakin (talk) 20:46, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Until very recently, but apparently not now, links were marked as either internal wikilinks or Transcluded. Previously links from template navboxes were listed as transcluded but now they are listed as normal wikilinks. Has something changed? Boghog2 (talk) 21:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I might be wrong but I thought the "transcluded" links were just the links to the templates themselves.... Bug #6934 is a request for marking the links as inclusions, redirects, etc. There's a partially functioning patch available for it, but it doesn't seem to be installed at Wikipedia. At least I can't seem to get it to work. • Anakin (talk) 21:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless my memory is playing major tricks on me, I am fairly certain that the links that were marked as transcluded originated from the linked pages on the navbox, and not from the navbox itself. For example, for pages that included Template:Transcription factors, hundreds of pages were marked as transcluded, even though the page in question only included one or a few navboxes (e.g., FOXP2). Boghog2 (talk) 21:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    (undent) You might find something useful under: WP:EIW#Querie. For example, I wonder what this can do:

    Also see: Wikipedia:Wikipedia in academic studies, Wikipedia:Researching Wikipedia, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikidemia. --Teratornis (talk) 03:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    IP addresses

    Hello, is it legal on Wikipedia to have an IP address that one uses to edit sometimes when he forgets to log in? Or would it be considered a sockpuppet? contribsSTYROFOAM☭1994TALK 21:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Perfectly fine, don't worry about it. As long as you don't !vote twice on the same thing :) Prodego talk 21:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    OK, thanks. contribsSTYROFOAM☭1994TALK 21:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Border/Box Help

    Hi there. I'm looking to find out how to either A) Put an old discussion into a box to set it apart as an official discussion involving something in the article, or to just find out how to put a border around the text. Using {{Template:Border}}, I just get a border with {{{1}}} instead of all the text. I've been wondering randomly through the pages looking for the box that I'm looking for, but I can't find it. Any help is appreciated! -- JTHolla! 21:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    There are different kinds of boxes for different purposes. It's not clear to me what you mean by "official discussion" and why you want a box for it. Which page and which text are you referring to? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Here -- JTHolla! 00:09, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    OK. I see you already added a box. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Problems with a template

    What is the syntax for the {{DISPLAYTITLE}} template? I noticed it in the Template:lowercase, decided to try to have fun with it, and am having some trouble with it. Thanks, flaming-lawyerc 21:29, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    {{DISPLAYTITLE}} is not actually a template, but a "magic word" – implemented by the software. See Help:Magic words#Miscellany for its syntax, and see the rest of that page for some other useful tricks. • Anakin (talk) 21:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmmm... thanks, I'll look it over and post again if i still have any questions. flaming-lawyerc 23:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Leon's Furniture wikipedia inaccuracy

    Dear Wikipedia, We noticed an inaccurate commentary added to a wikipedia page that incorrectly linked Leon's Furniture Ltd. with current issues involving a Leon family member. The issue appears to be a dispute between the Dovercourt Boys and Girls Club in Toronto and private citizen George Leon. George is a member of the Leon family however he has no affiliation with the furniture company or its day-to-day business. We have removed the paragraph as well as a hyperlink to the Boys and Girls Club web site that appear to have been added around February 16, 2008. We will continue to monitor the Leon's Furniture Ltd. wikipedia web page and appreciate any advice you have for us to ensure its integrity. Sincerely, David Leon Systems & Procedures Leon's Furniture Ltd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.188.94.238 (talk) 22:02, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Please post this on the article's talk page. The help desk is for asking about how to use Wikipedia, not errors in its articles. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 23:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from enterprise) actually suggests that people post here about problems with content about their enterprise. The poster was right to come here. The pdf source [5] to the removed content says: "Leon is related to the founder of furniture chain Leon's, but does not work for the company and there is no business connection." In view of this it seems sensible to omit the information from an article about the furniture chain. But be careful about editing an article when you have a conflict of interest. See Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. An edit like [6] would have been better to suggest on the talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about... well, continuation of topic 2-above this one

    OK, I followed Anakin's advice, went to the page, read the part that pertained to my question, tried it on my userpage, and, well it didn't work. The page mentioned said that the syntax was 

    {{DISPLAYTITLE:xxx}}

    with xxx being what the page name should be. I typed: 

    {{DISPLAYTITLE:flaminglawyer}}

    so that I could get it lowercase without using the template. But it still came up as User:Flaminglawyer. purging didn't work, so i'm back here. Please help. flaming-lawyerc 23:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    [7] says it should normalise to the same. The real name is User:Flaminglawyer so you can write {{DISPLAYTITLE:User:flaminglawyer}} to get lower case f but it appears you cannot get rid of "User" with this magic word. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    February 26

    How does someone ask for an unblock?

    I don't even know if this question will go through.

    How does someone ask for an unblock? Will they even consider it or just be nasty to me? The checkuser cleared me. 216.185.29.69 (talk) 00:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    There are no current blocks on your IP. You are good to go. Dr.K. (talk) 00:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If you are having problems editing a page, it was probably a protected article. ---CWY2190TC 00:28, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Although I would consider getting an account if I were you, because your IP is shared and looks like it is used for vandalism. Soxred93 | talk bot 00:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you. I am blocked. Somehow, I can edit from here but my account is blocked. 216.185.29.69 (talk) 00:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Which account is it? —teb728 t c 00:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Subpage List?

    I remember that a page existed that listed every subpage for a given page. Can someone give me a link? Perfect Proposal Speak Out! 01:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Yep! Special:Prefixindex is what you want. • Anakin (talk) 01:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    At what point is an article deemed "Wikified"?

    Hi

    I pretty much tried to add internal links (as requested) at this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanne_Fedler

    It is riddled with internal links, several of which don't exist.

    At what point does common sense prevail and you will allow the article to be approved as "Wikified"?

    Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.202.124.156 (talk) 02:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Personally, I'd say that was probably just a little overboard. If your aim was to get rid of the notification up the top of the article, it doesn't happen automatically when you wikify the article - you have to remove the {{wikify}} up the top, which you are allowed to do once you believe that you have solved the problem. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I have removed the tag but as said, you could also have done it yourself. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks both of you, I thought I had removed it as well. No matter. I am a bit of a newbie, thanks again for the help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.202.124.156 (talk) 03:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Just some added info. Typically an article is considered "wikified" once certain guidelines are followed/met - per WP:LEAD, wikilinking relevant terms/dates, following WP:MOS. Also, see WP:ARTICLE and WP:YFA. But as the others have already pointed out, simply remove the template at the top if you feel you've met the "requirements". Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:32, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Trivia template broken?

    Could someone check out the trivia template, there seems to be something wrong with it, as it no longer adds the pages to Category:Articles with trivia sections. NanohaA'sYuriTalk, My master 03:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It's working as intended as far as I can tell. The monthly subcategories like Category:Articles with trivia sections from February 2008 transclude {{MonthlyCleanupCat}} which has added the new magic word __HIDDENCAT__ in this edit. It means the category is no longer displayed on the article, but the article is still listed on the category page. See Help:Magic words#Other. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Guitar Compatibility Chart Deletion?

    Can someone explain why the chart of guitar controller compatibility was removed? Guitar controller compatibility "Spartaz (Talk | contribs) deleted "Guitar controller compatibility" ‎ (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guitar controller compatibility)" I can personally attest to it being a huge help in my quest for information about rhythm video games, and I disagree with it's deletion. 666Fox (talk) 03:40, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guitar controller compatibility for more information. If you think the deletion should be reviewed, see WP:DRV for more information on that process. However, make sure you read the page and understand why, exactly, the article was deleted. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 03:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Guitar controller compatibility. Most people wanted to keep it but Articles for deletion is not a vote and the closing administrator thought the delete arguments fitted our policies and guidelines better. See also Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Image editing

    At Image:Bubonic plague map 2.png, I believe "Marsailles" should be spelled "Marseilles". The image history shows 2 editors have worked on the image, but both have left Wikipedia. Is there a practical way to fix it, short of redrawing the map? Art LaPella (talk) 04:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I'll see if I can fix it so that it looks passable; I'm afraid it probably isn't possible for you to fix it, unless you've got some advanced graphics editors. I'll tell you how that goes on your talk page soon. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 04:48, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you. Art LaPella (talk) 04:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Dashes

    Are they being used properly in references #27 and #43 of this article? Thanks, –thedemonhog talk • edits 05:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't see anything wrong; probably a browser bug? Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 05:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I was actually referring to the manual of style. –thedemonhog talk • edits 05:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Glitch in the Matrix

    why does 25th precede 24th in this contribution list? --Seans Potato Business 06:54, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Hah, that's some bug! I would file a bugzilla report now. Soxred93 | talk bot 07:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, hold off on the bug. Look at the years. The edits on the 25th were made in 2007, the 24th in 2008. Soxred93 | talk bot 07:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Another opinion requested

    I would appreciate a disinterested opinion on the appropriateness of a few small edits that I've made. (If this is the wrong place to ask, then please direct me elsewhere.) In particular, I'd like to know if I might have violated 3RR, or if I would be doing so if I persisted with more such edits, in case my latest edit is reverted. I'd also like to know if I'm off base with the reasons that I gave in the talk page & my edit summaries. If I'm all wet, I'll just move on. If the other editors involved are in error, I'd like to know how to bring that to someone's attention if they persist.

    To review my edits, I would suggest reading them in the following sequence: First, read my comments in Talk:Citrix_Systems#External_links, and then read the following of my edits to Citrix Systems:

    1. 22:30, 1 February 2008 revert counter-productive EL changes (see talk)
    2. 09:56, 6 February 2008 restore previous link; pls state reasons for edits & justify second link to citrix.com, per WP:EL#Points_to_remember; see talk
    3. 07:50, 23 February 2008 restore previous link. Note to User 76.108.135.51: Repeatedly replacing another link with one that you prefer may be in opposition to NPOV, as well as the issues previously noted.
    4. 05:55, 26 February 2008 see talk and my previous comments re deleting this link

    I have no vested interest in Citrix Systems, its products, that article, or that subject, nor do I have any interest in an edit war for its own sake. If I've found something worth improving in the article, great; if it's better for me to ignore it, that's OK, too. I read some of the article originally for some info on the subject. That's when I noticed a bad EL, which led to my 1 February 2008 edits on the article & talk pages; the other edits followed from that when my changes were reversed w/o comment.

    Thanks, Rich Janis (talk) 07:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I will take a look over the links and edits and reply on the talk page there. • Anakin (talk) 20:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Theft

    Hi! Someone has uploaded an image on Commons with the wrong attribution. The image is actually mine. The user who did it is [8], and the image is [9]. I've originally uploaded it to another site under a free license. Can't remember where, but I'll find it in 24hrs. The problem isn't the license, but the attribution. I can prove I'm the author because I always upload images (including WP) at a lower resolution than the original, and I have the original - the uploaded image is 1024x768, the original 1600x1200 (if an admin would like to check, I'll e-mail it). I also have other photos from the same location because I've done them... from the window of my home.

    This is plain theft and because I'm angry I think it's best for me not to speak with the uploader. Thank you. adriatikus | talk 11:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    This is the Wikipedia help desk, and your problem relates to an image somewhere else, i.e. on Commons. You would be better off taking the matter to the Commons help desk instead. BencherliteTalk 11:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Note that I've added {{disputed}} to the Commons image due to a helpme request by the same user; {{db-copyvio}} would be appropriate if the source of the image (either the emailed high-resolution version, or the original source on the Internet) is found. --ais523 11:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
    The copyright violation has now been deleted. • Anakin (talk) 20:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    If Adriatikus uploaded the image to another site under a free license, the other user had the right to upload the image to Commons, didn't they? Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 20:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    It depends on how "free" the license was. Regardless, improper sourcing still makes it a copyvio. -- Kesh (talk) 23:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    More precisely, improper attribution. We only require sourcing so that we can verify attribution. Sam Korn (smoddy) 23:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Expand the article of an iconous actor in Tamil Nadu

    Dear Editor,

    Article title: "Joseph Vijay" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.145.125.100 (talk) 12:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    Why have you limited the content of this article to a single paragraph? is there no other news about him? Does it need stupid lines such as "his mother tongue is Tamil"? And why cant you put more things about his childhood life and how he struggled in his childhood days? He is not a born-actor and born-rich. Taking Ajith's article you have put up heaps of things about him with lots of headings. Do Wikipedia thinks Vijay is in someway cheaper than that Ajith? IN NO WAY!

    This is not a fan blog after all. Only a global encyclopaedia aspired by all, I believe.


    After all, he is an iconous actor in TN next only to Superstar Rajni. If you dont bother, we will be giving content about Vijay with lots of headings which you can search, break your heads for accuracy and approve it.

    Thanks WikipediaFan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.145.125.100 (talk) 12:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. You can edit almost any article on Wikipedia by just following the Edit link at the top of the page. We encourage you to be bold in updating pages, because wikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can always preview your edits before you publish them or test them out in the sandbox. If you need additional help, check out our getting started page or ask the friendly folks at the Teahouse. AndyJones (talk) 13:50, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    download data dumps

    I am a research student working on visualization of online social networks. Totally new to wikipedia. Trying to familiarise myself with datadumps, downloading datasets into databases and the same stuff

    Am wondering why the following links do not work;

    http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data-dumps http://download.wikimedia.org/tools/

    Tried it several times to download a sample datasets. But it always failed. There should be something wrong with the above mentioned URLs.

    Waiting for your help and response

    Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.40.95.206 (talk) 14:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Maybe you mean http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps . the other one seems to work. Freestyle 14:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you see the url http://en.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data-dumps somewhere? That would have to be corrected. Freestyle's correction and the other 3 url's work for me. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    The following are also faulty.

    1. Dumps from any Wikimedia Foundation project: http://download.wikimedia.org/
    2. English Wikipedia dumps in SQL and XML: http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/

    Really confused. I have no idea why cant load these urls.

    Any comments are highly appreciated

    Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.40.95.206 (talk) 14:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Those urls are working fine. What type of error message are you getting? GtstrickyTalk or C 14:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Since you are a research student you may wish to see: Wikipedia:Wikipedia in academic studies, Wikipedia:Researching Wikipedia, Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikidemia, and WP:EIW#Querie. --Teratornis (talk) 22:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Opinion on Lead Paragraph

    I'm not sure whether this question is meant to be under Wikipedia or Miscellaneous but...I'd like advice on the lead paragraph for McFly (band). I know it's meant to be 3-4 paragraphs, but I'm having trouble in deciding what the content to be. Is it good at the moment? (We're trying to get GA Status) What else should be added? -- Stacey talk to me 16:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Asking here works fine. Your lead section looks pretty good. The lead section is supposed to be a brief summary of the rest of the article, which appears to be what you've done. Wikipedia:Lead section has more information on what should be included. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia Signatures page problem

    The page puts the cart before the horse: it assumes you already have a signature and then tells us how to use a signature, what to include in a signature, and when to use a signature. But! It should start with HOW TO CREATE A SIGNATURE; if you don't have one, you can't use the page. Or at least a link at the beginning of the page to the how to create a signature page. If it's already there, I can't find it. How does one CREATE/edit a signature? McGoo 17:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

    • Try this page Wikipedia:Signatures (or maybe that is the page you are talking about). You have a default signature which can be seen when you sign with ~~~~ . GtstrickyTalk or C 17:58, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing_your_signature has that information. We have the page laid out in that order as the priority of all guidelines is to show editors how to make edits that are constructive to the project, that is building an encyclopedia. Discussing changes and signing those discussions is constructive to that project - making a signature is less so. Please try to include a link to your user or user talk page in your signature, as this is one of the requirements of a signature. Thanks. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    helpme question

    I would like to use Wikipedia information in my book. If I just credit Wikipedia with the text quote, is that enough? Does Wikipedia want to see the information I use before I publish? Thank you. Joan Hibbs (talk) 18:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC) Joan Hibbs[reply]

    So long as you cite the source of the information, using the "Cite this page" link in the toolbox, you can use the information freely. See the text of the licence under which Wikipedia content is licenced for more information. Stwalkerster [ talk ] 18:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    "magic words"

    I am having problems with the "magic word" {{DISPLAYTITLE}}. I went to the WP:Magic words and read the text on the DISPLAYTITLE, it says the syntax is 

    {{DISPLAYTITLE:xxx}}

    where xxx is the intended title. So I used, on my userpage: 

    {{DISPLAYTITLE:flaminglawyer}}

    for variety from the {{lowercase}} template, but it still came up with the title being User:Flaminglawyer. What is the proper syntax? flaming-lawyerc 19:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    It works for me, try clearing your cache. Soxred93 | talk bot 19:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    I replied above in #Question about... well, continuation of topic 2-above this one. My edit [10] worked but you reverted it. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Google Earth and coordinates

    I have just loaded up Google Earth and find it facinating. I recently wrote an article on Blue Ridge Music Center. I can find the coordinates there (36|08.58|64N and 81|41.32|35 W) and would like to drop these exact coordinates into an appropriate template. Which template and how how to I go about that without typing in these numbers myself - can they just be copied in somehow? Would this then show up in the upper right hand corner as I have seen in other articles. For those that have Google Earth installed, then would these coordinates work automatically by clicking on the hotlink. Also I understand there is "Wikipedia for Google Earth" where apparently then this article would show up on Google Earth if someone looked it up or was "flying by" the area of the location. Is it a good idea to have these coordinates available in the article then? Where is the best place it should be located (e.g. "External Links")? Could someone help me on this one example (Blue Ridge Music Center), then I will be able to take it from there on other new articles. Thanks.--Doug talk 20:36, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    {{coord|LAT HERE|LON HERE}} should do it. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 20:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I tried, however I still don't get it.

    1. I can find the coordinates for Blue Ridge Music Center on Google Earth, however how do I copy those numbers in the lower right corner marked ""Pointer" into a template.
    2. That template doesn't seem to give the coordinates in the upper right hand corner of the article.
    3. For those that have Google Earth installed, then would these coordinates work automatically by clicking on the hotlink.
    4. Is it a good idea to have these coordinates available in the article then?
    5. Where is the best place it should be located (e.g. "External Links")?
    6. most important (please) Could someone help me on this one example (Blue Ridge Music Center)?

    Thanks! --Doug talk 21:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I went ahead and added it. The formatting for those {{coord}} templates is not straightforward. —Noah 22:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks! --Doug talk 22:50, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Calendar with or without year

    The page January 1 and 365 other pages display a calendar. The calendar header shows the year 2008, but if you click on a date, it links to, for example January 5 not to January 5, 2008. Is it desired that a year is displayed in the header?

    See also Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/December current version (without year and without weekdays) and previous version (with year and weekdays). HandigeHarry (talk) 21:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Since this is not the place for this type of discussion, I recommend that the topic be discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 21:34, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia articles cited elsewhere - what responsibility ?

    Where a Wikipedia article is tagged as having been cited elsewhere, for example with {{onlinesource}}, what responsibilities are there on editors to maintain the substance of the article at the time of citation, even though the article needs major major work ? Is there some form of formal versioning to which the citation can be referred as well ? See for example Death threat. Pee Tern (talk) 21:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Those are some good questions. I don't see anything in Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia that helps. Neither did anything jump right out at me from the Editor's index (although my search was hardly exhaustive). The entries on Template talk:Onlinesource suggest there are more questions about this template than answers. If someone wants to cite a specific revision of a Wikipedia article, they can use a Permalink. See: Help:Page history#Linking to a specific version of a page. --Teratornis (talk) 22:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. If I get time I will have a look at some cleverer templates - actually one with parameters!
    While this question will now go to the relevant template discussion page, just to kick it off, what are people's thoughts on having "reverse references" appearing in {{reflist}}, that is references, in standard format, references TO the wiki article? My thinking is that if we can put the inward citations on the article page they will be more obvious to editors and give the article "obvious non wiki standing"? Also, what is involved in getting the server primitives for a {{citlist}} developed. There does not seem to be any parameters or class attributes documented to allow /reflist to filter into more than one reference list? Pee Tern (talk) 11:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I participate in discussion?

    I don't see how to participate in discussion of an article. The "how to" section of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#How_to_use_article_talk_pages does not explain how to. Instead, it repeats good manners advice. If someone could include a step by step instruction that would be helpful. It might also be helpful to say that THIS form is submitted by clicking "Save page". (Since there's no submit button I assume that's correct?) Aefields (talk) 21:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)Adrian Fields[reply]

    To participate in a discussion, simply click on the "edit this page" button at the top of the talk page, and write your comments either underneath the last comment (bottom of the page), or under the comment itself if you're replying to something specific. Usually, you can add a * (bullet point) beforehand to demarcate the start of a new comment. Don't forget to sign afterwards with four tildes (~~~~). Hope this helps. Mr Senseless (talk) 21:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) You got it correct. :) Wikipedia doesn't have special forum software for discussions. Instead, article talk pages are just like other pages technically, but you edit them in a different way. If you click the little "+" tab at the top of a discussion page, you can add a new section. If you want to add to an existing section, click the [edit] link beside that section and post at the bottom of it. I see you've already figured the four tildes bit out; it adds your user name and the current UTC date and time. Post it with the Save page button as usual. You'll get used to it fairly quickly. Wikipedia:Talk page has better information about using them than Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines, so you may want to look at that too. • Anakin (talk) 21:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Censoring Wikipedia

    This is in reply to you accusing me of censoring Wikipedia. I would just like to explain that I was not censoring, but correcting, because that subject matter is in debate (it even says so further down in the article) but that statement implies that there is no debate, but a definate answer. Therefore the article was contradicting itself in favour of a bias answer, which supports potential hateful content that can be dangerous when used to support hatespeech towards minorities. It is also irresponsible to claim it as a fact seeing as it is targeting a group of people who are already subject to abuse and restricted human rights -all of which use the same theology to justify such actions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.45.158.119 (talk) 22:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    The people who read and contribute to the Help Page -- "you" in the paragraph above -- are not the single editor who left the comment on your talk page. I would kindly suggest you bring the issue up (in the same civil manner you have already employed) with that editor. Cheers, —Noah 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    My edits are not appearing on the Wikipedia page

    While I have thoroughly searched all the references and FAQs, I have not found an answer to my question: Today I contributed a major edit to the article on ICONOGRAPHY, following Wikipedia rules and style manual. The information added was used with permission; no copyright infringement was involved. The addition specifically addressed iconography in the Eastern tradition and added a wealth of information missing from the original article. Now that information, i.e., my edit/addition, is not appearing. Why? And how may I correct that? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mymim3 (talk • contribs) 23:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Your contributions were reverted by Johnbod (talk · contribs) with the justification "Not wified, includes spamlink etc & would belong on icon and other pages rather than here. likely copyvio also". [11] Without commenting on the merits or otherwise of his reversion, your best course of action is to ask him exactly why he reverted the information and how you can address his concerns, using his talk page. Rockpocket 23:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec) Your edit was reverted by Johnbod, an experienced editor in this field, in this edit. His view was that your addition to the article contained no wikilinks (which help improve the encyclopaedia by connecting relevant articles to add detail and explanation), was suspected of being a copyright violation, did not necessarily fit on this article (as opposed to others) and included an unnecessary/inappropriate external link (possible spam). I suggest you think again whether what you want to add is necessary and appropriate, and perhaps then discuss possible changes to the article at Talk:Iconography so that other editors can add their views on how best to improve the article. Regards, BencherliteTalk 23:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    That's right - the material is however still preserved in the article history. If the material is used "with permission" - ie is copyright, but permission has been granted - that permission has to be documented, by procedures I am not an expert in. Very similar material already exists at Icon and Russian icons; it would not be appropriate just to add the whole text there either, but some of it could certainly be worked in. But you need to sort out the copyright permission too - you said you were quoting your expert, and I expect she asserts copyright on her website material or wherever it came from. Hope this helps. Johnbod (talk) 01:59, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    magic word

    The "magic word" {{DISPLAYTITLE}}: why does the title have to have a namespace in it? i.e. User:Flaminglawyer: 

    {{DISPLAYTITLE:flaminglawyer}}

    produces title "User:Flaminglawyer" (the default). But: 

    {{DISPLAYTITLE:User:flaminglawyer}}

    produces the title "User:flaminglawyer", which works (notice that all I did was add the namespace). Why is this? Is there any way to get around this? flaming-lawyer-c 23:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    You can always use the following:

    {{User:One/Title|(insert title here)}} - Milk's Favorite Cookie 00:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


    [12] says:
    Fix up DISPLAYTITLE and enable per default:
    • Clean up the mess in ParserOutput
    • Reject (ignore) custom titles which don't normalise to the same as the current page -- THIS IS IMPORTANT OTHERWISE LINKING GOES TO POT (and not the good kind of pot)
    [WARNING: Touches parser version. Old caches will be expired. You might wish to undo this and add some temporarily backwards-compatibility for a few days.]
    I don't know more about DISPLAYTITLE than this. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    February 27

    Inserting an image from Wikipedia Commons

    I just uploaded an image into Wikipedia Commons and wish to insert it into an article. I thought I understood how to do this, but when I try to edit the article and hit Preview, the photo doesn't show. Just the words, Image:blah-blah-etc., show. Is it possible I need to wait four days? I just joined Wikipedia Commons to upload the photo. This is not the case with Wikipedia, because I have been a member for a couple of months. If anyone has any ideas it would ease my frustration! Thank you. Voiceperson (talk) 01:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    • Check the formatting of other commons images in articles. No need to wait, AFAIK. Johnbod (talk) 02:02, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Usually you can insert the image immediately. No need to wait for days. Just copy the image name from commons, eg: Image:Nice Photo.PNG and put it in the article like this [[Image:Nice Photo.PNG|right|thumb|A nice photo.]]. Just an example. ќמшמφטтгמtorque 02:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Just write [[Image:Ryan Allen.JPG‎]] to display the image like I did here.

    By the way, the name is Wikimedia Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See more about displaying images at Help:Images and other uploaded files. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I edit?

    How do I edit Mike Huckabee? 70.234.154.58 (talk) 02:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Create an account since Mike Huckabee is a semi-protected article, wait for 4 days and then you will be able to edit.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 03:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    The IP also posted at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page#Can't edit an article and has seen the replies there. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Long articles


    What do you do if you feel an article is too long.Chessmaster3 (talk) 03:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Click "edit page" and add {{toolong}} to the top of the article, fill in an edit summary, and then save the page.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 03:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:Article size. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Fish Cuts eg; En Tresse, Delice

    I am currently in a Level 3 Chef course and have been asked to find culinary uses for fish cuts such as En Tresse, Pave, Gougons can you please direct me to a good site/page to do so thankyou219.89.235.180 (talk) 04:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikimedia images used by media

    Is there any template we can use to indicate that a photo has been used by the media? Something similar to that used in Wikipedia, whereby an article was quoted by the media: {{Press}}. I found this photo taken by wikimedian User:Johnleemk used in the article: here. There are also many other pictures used by media from commons. I know this question should be for Commons, so a similar question was posted at Commons:Help desk, but there was not much response. ќמшמφטтгמtorque 05:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    All images in Commons are free, so they may be reused in the media, provided that licensing conditions like attribution are complied with. —teb728 t c 08:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes i know that. I just thought that there should be some kind of an indicatoin that an image has been used by a media organisation, like some sort of trophy/medal or acknowledgement. Like {{Press}}. Or is it not practical? ќמшמφטтгמtorque 08:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    You would have to ask at Commons, unfortunately. They use different templates than we do, and while I'm sure they do have something similar, I'm not sure if it would be {{Press}} or something else. Hersfold (t/a/c) 13:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Withdrawal of picture permission

    Hello. Mainly I was wondering what the situation is when someone withdraws permission for a picture they had previously uploaded to Wikipedia, as has happened with Image:smarties2008.jpg which User:RAYBAN no longer wishes to be available for use. Is there somewhere it can be listed for deletion? Or does this not happen? (And if anybody wants to have a look over at Smarties (Nestle) and offer some advice or calm words to any of us, I would welcome it. It's calmer now, but it doesn't feel like an optimal solution.) Skittle (talk) 11:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Strictly speaking, by releasing the image into the public domain they no longer have that sort of control over it -- it's legally free to anyone to use for any purpose, with or without permission. Practically speaking, the continued good will of contributors is a valuable asset; is there sufficient reason to ignore the author's wishes, regardless of whether we're obligated to do so? The image doesn't seem worth fighting over. – Luna Santin (talk) 12:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Indeed it doesn't, and there isn't really any goodwill to spare in this case :( Just wondering if there was something that was normally done, some procedure I could direct RAYBAN to, to avoid anyone accidentally using the image elsewhere and incurring wrath. Skittle (talk) 13:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    From a strictly legal point of view, it may not be possible to release anything into the public domain. Also, since these licenses are not contracts, it may be that they cannot impose obligations on the licensor; in other words, as much as we may like these licenses to be irrevocable, it's possible that we can't force the licensor to irrevocably license his work unless we pay him for it. I am not a lawyer, though. —Bkell (talk) 14:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Economics

    How business environment influences business managemnet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.199.205.25 (talk) 12:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    load data dumps in a database

    I a newcomer. Experimenting wikipedia community as a huge social network. Intending to get the data dumps and load them into a MySQL database.

    Am wondering if someone can guid me through the simplest way.

    As far as I understand the dumps are really huge. I download one but it is saved with an unknown format. I cant see its content. And have no idea how to create a database out of that data.

    In the first step can any one help me on dowloading a dump (revision history pages) and see its contents. I just want to find out how different versions of an article is saved in a dump. Is it exactly the same as shown on the history page?

    Highly appreciate any help

    Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.67.245 (talk) 13:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    I've never done it, but I can give you a few pointers. Wikipedia:Database download explains it briefly and meta:Data dumps explains it in lots more detail. The first thing is that the the files you downloaded are either .sql or .xml files, compressed with either .bz2 or .7z. You'll need a program like 7-Zip to uncompress them. I'm not familiar with the rest of it but I hope those links can help a bit. • Anakin (talk) 14:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Change mouseover text of a link

    Is there any way of changing the text that appears when you hover over a link in Wikipedia, like when using the title tag in html links? Freestyle 15:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Okay, I found it out myself :) a link.. this seems to work in IE7 and Firefox. Freestyle 15:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    removing warning box

    Hi, I had a warning box put on my page at:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Connection

    saying that I hadn't cited enough sources or given enough references to be considered a noteworthy page. I believe that I've fixed that problem by now and would wonder if someone could please give me some feedback about this and what the isssue was in the first place, and remove the box, please.

    Thank you,

    --Beakymouse (talk) 15:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    Will address on your talk page. GtstrickyTalk or C 15:47, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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