User talk:Spoon!

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Hey Spoon!, How's it going on your side of the room? 131.215.240.181 05:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Did you decide that math notation should be written only in TeX on Wikipedia? If so you may want to look at pros and cons at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics. No one objects to TeX in displayed math, but embedded in lines of text it may sometimes look bad. Michael Hardy 00:08, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hey Spoon, Sorry, Caltech's motto isn't "Let There Be Light"—that's the University of California motto, from which the info table was enthusiastically copied. Yeah, that was embarrassing! (As far as I know, Caltech's motto is still "The truth shall make you free"; at the least, it seems to be the de facto motto). —Gku 08:07, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)

hi, wht do you think about removing Radiography from the pages needing attention? or do you think it still needs a lot of attention? I guess the last 3 paragraphs could use some rewording, but the article looks a lot better now? Deelkar 17:57, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hiya, in terms of the article on sp² bonds where do you think the article is right now? Is it good enough to remove the attention tag, or is there more to be done? EagleFalconn 15:58, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hmmm... no user page.

I guess there really is no Spoon! - Ta bu shi da yu 04:17, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
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To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

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I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Linux

In case you are interested in this wikiproject... Best wishes, Samsara (talk • contribs) 17:35, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for adding the See Also link on the Iterated binary operation page. NoJoy 20:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Electron configurations of the elements (data page)

Re: [1] - So far, this holds the title of the most extensive independent addition of further sources to 'my' datapages (wish there were more). You checked that everything else agrees with the table? Nice! Femto 11:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Hey, Spoon!

I've been reading through the archives about the debate over deletion/retention of information on the undergrad houses. Thank you for making excellent arguments in favor of preservation.

A Lloydie. DavidCBryant 04:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit Summary & Halting of Edit War requested

Would you please add Edit Summaries to your edits on Comparison of web browsers? Also, please stop adding templates for the "cost" and "open source" columns. Color coding was explicitely non-requested for these columns.
Please, look at the edit history and the talk page before you make a change that was reverted once before. There is a reason why your edit was reverted, and you should discuss the reasons and reach a consensus before proceeding to change that aspect.
When I reverted your edit, I have provided a link to the ongoing discussion as to give you a possiblity to express your opinion / convince others why this would be a good idea. Please give me respect by not making these changes over and over again. Thanks. --Grey 04:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Help Desk/Computing

I think your answer about how to crack XP passwords was highly irresponsible. I know I'm making an assumption here, but providing such information to someone who may well be a high-school student only looking to play pranks on their fellow students, is not such a good idea. That is the reason why I was sceptical of the OP's motives in my reply; and probably why ⁪ffroth was cagey in their reply too. That said, I think your 2nd reply took a more reasonable approach to the question.

Anyway, I took the liberty of removing the link to the article over at wikibooks. And, frankly, I think that article should be deleted from Wikibooks as well.

Astronaut 15:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Corporate Average Fuel Economy

Spoon, your edits to CAFE appear to come uncomfortably close to constituting vandalism. Your advocacy for a novel gallons-per-mile standard violates Wikipedia standards regarding original research, verifiability, point of view, and what Wikipedia is not. It is rather strange to see this sort of inappropriate activism from an editor with a contribution history such as yours. Nevertheless, I will assume good faith and thank you for please not doing it again. If there's verifiable, significant, organised, published advocacy for the sort of gallons-per-mile standard you espouse, by all means please feel free to add appropriate mention and references to the article. However, it seems to me that someone with your strong background in maths must surely realise there is no practical difference in effect between a standard that mandates minimum allowable distance travellable on a volume unit of fuel, and a standard that mandates maximum allowable fuel consumption per distance unit travelled. A regulation of either format can easily be set at a numeric value mandating a standard of fuel economy identical to that mandated by a regulation of the other format. Thanks for being a coöperative Wikipedian. --Scheinwerfermann (talk) 05:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, because it matters when you take the average. If a company has all its cars at 10 mpg (0.1 gpm), then its mpg average is 10 mpg, and its gpm average is 0.1 gpm. But if a company has half of its cars at 1 mpg (1 gpm), and half at 19 mpg (0.052 gpm), it still has an average of 10 mpg, but its gpm average is 0.52 gpm. If you think about it, you will realize that the second is much worse. A company with cars with a wide range of fuel economies will use more total fuel for the same average mpg than one with a small range of fuel economies. Companies can increase their miles-per-gallon rating by producing lots of cars with high fuel economy, which do not save as much total fuel as the low fuel economy cars waste, but draws up their average more. This is a basic math. There are lots of sources that can be found for this. I was hoping that other people can expand it. But if you don't want it on there, then fine; have it your way. --Spoon! (talk) 06:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CAFE is calculated on a sales-weighted basis, not on the basis of the number of models in a maker's line as you're assuming here. --Scheinwerfermann (talk) 16:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I've seen your important contributions for the article Recurrence relation. I'm looking for the general (non-iterative) algebraic expression for the exact trigonometric constants of the form: ${\begin{aligned}\cos {\frac {\pi }{2^{n}}}\end{aligned}}$ , when n is natural (and is not given in advance). Do you know of any such general (non-iterative) algebraic (non-trigonometric) expression?

Let me explain: if we choose n=1 then the term ${\begin{aligned}\cos {\frac {\pi }{2^{n}}}\end{aligned}}$ becomes "0", which is a simple (non-trigonometric) constant. If we choose n=2 then the term ${\begin{aligned}\cos {\frac {\pi }{2^{n}}}\end{aligned}}$ becomes ${\begin{aligned}{\frac {1}{\sqrt {2}}}\end{aligned}}$ , which is again an algebraic (non-trigonometric) constant. etc. etc. Generally, for every natural n, the term ${\begin{aligned}\cos {\frac {\pi }{2^{n}}}\end{aligned}}$ becomes an algebraic (non-trigonometric) constant. However, when n is not given in advance, then the very expression ${\begin{aligned}\cos {\frac {\pi }{2^{n}}}\end{aligned}}$ per se - is not an algebraic expression but rather is a trigonometric (non-algebraic) expression. I'm looking for the general (non-iterative) algebraic (non-trigonometric) expression equivalent to ${\begin{aligned}\cos {\frac {\pi }{2^{n}}}\end{aligned}}$ , when n is not given in advance. If not for the cosine - then for the sine or the tangent or the cotangent.

Eliko (talk) 08:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]