Talk:Nickelodeon Games and Sports for Kids

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Template:Wikiproject Nickelodeon

Media:Moved to Nick GAS (from Nick GaS). While the logo has a lowercase "a", the official web site uses a capital "A" whenever it refers to the channel name. --Chessphoon 01:33, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

This page keeps getting vandalized by somebody in the 198.246.32.* IP range. Given the shoddy grammar, it is probably a little kid doing this. If this keeps up, the page might need to be locked until this user stops editing it. --Kilby 07:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have warned the user at 198.246.32.99 to stop vandalizing this and other pages (he is also messing with the VH1 and G4 pages). If he does it again (he has been warned a total of four times so far), he will be reported. --Kilby 20:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just reverted his edits again. --Caldorwards4 02:49, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted this Vandalism by this ID 68.193.121.126 On November 1, 2005 Pumping GAS was removed which caused Super Sloppy Double Dare, Global GUTS, along with Rocket Power, Speed Racer, Scaredy Camp, SK8-TV, and Family Double Dare were removed and it were replaced with additional repeats of shows such as Legends of the Hidden Temple, Get the Picture, GUTS, Figure it Out and Double Dare 2000.

As of present day Nick GAS remains the same as it was since November 2005. --91BOY 18:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Gas messing up the tv schedule?

Nick Gas messing up the tv schedule or are they? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.8.33 (talk) 13:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC) I have added the closure date with a note that DISH Network subscribers still get Nick GAS. Hookyboysb1 (talk) 21:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just edited the closure date and added it into a category. Hookyboysb1 (talk) 21:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Someone removed the "Problems with the switch" section. Hookyboysb1 (talk) 19:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: Oops, forgot to sign. Hookyboysb1 (talk) 19:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Programming

I would like to say that, like all of the other "nostalgia" networks, this network has corrupted. Many of the old shows, like What epeated. This is obviously a very low budget operation for Nickelodeon (read: Viacom). When this channel was first picked up by my cable provider, there were literally only 5 or 6 different segments, so you'd start to see them loop after just an hour. Now it's at least a bit more mixed up. --MMX 05:32, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer that there be no commercials. However, I will agree, that this network has become (if I'm using the word correctly) stagnant, showing that same old shows over and over again ever since Pumping GAS got cancelled. It feels as though this network isn't even aware of its own existence anymore...

Getting the axe

Somehow I feel that GAS might eventually get the axe. Reason is all they do is show the same old shows over and over again and Nick Arcade is only shown at the wee a.m. hours of the morning and there hasn't been any new shows lately. Anyone else feel this way. rksexy2finger

I agree. It was bad that they removed Double Dare, but kept Double Dare 2000. They need more Nick game shows. They have the programming, just not the interest. 67.188.172.165 18:08, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah they still have rights to those shows they took off oviously because they were made by Nick so of corse they'll always have rights to them. I may contact them about this sometime. rksexy2finger

Only Regular Figure It Out

Figure It Out Classic is on the network only. Wild Style and Family Style were removed from the network. I'm glad for this because family talents and secrets are not as prestigious, and animal-related talents and secrets can be disturbing, like pigeon bowling. I agree with the overpopulation of pigeons, but that doesn't mean you can use them like a bowling ball.

Figure It Out

Figure It Out Family Style Still runs on Nick GAS. Once in a blue moon Figure It Out Wild Style airs. The show descripiton on the tv guide still says Figure It Out even when wild style or family style is on.

The original Figure It Out seldom airs. I'm thinking that it was dropped in favor of the themed versions. 67.188.172.165 19:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since Figure it out Wild and Family Styles didnt air alot in the past few weeks they are now playing more often than not and in a few weeks reg FIO will come back on more than Family and Wild Styles--71.52.200.202 22:14, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I hope that they change the lineup because legends and guts repeat alot and almost everytime I channel surf one of those shows are on! I do like those shows but nick gas really needs more! They show the same shows over and over.--Pinkhayzze 21:15, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wild Style and Family Style wereremoved and they are! GD1223 14:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Website

I added a link to Nick.com's Sports Central since the Nick GAS site is under construction. --91BOY 17:51, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As of today the Nick GAS webpage on Nick.com says it is "under construction", possibly indicting a change in format of the website, television channel or both and second thought the Nick GAS will probably be change to Nick Rewind channel on next year which it shows Live Action featuring Games, Sitcoms, Reality and Sports with no Animated Shows, so say goodbye to Nick GAS forever and welcome Nick Rewind.

Sorry to break this to you, but the website you posted has no relevence whatsoever to the Nick GAS channel. As a result, I removed it. Brittany Ka 13:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Rewind Channel

Please stop adding information about Nick GAS being turned into a rewind channel. A fan site is not enough proof to add the information. When/If Viacom (who owns Nickelodeon) issues a press release then the infomation can be added. Tazz765 23:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As of today the Nickelodeon GAS webpage on Nick.com says it is "under construction", possibly indicating a change in format of the website, television channel or both. Several insiders are reporting a major shift in programming currently to take place sometime in June. The network will be revamping the format to appeal to a newer generation. Nickelodeon GAS will no longer showcase older programs and will be offering all original content targeted to the tween demographic.

Does anyone have a sorce on this?

No, this is just the same vandal that keeps adding this nonsense to the main article.Tazz765 03:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Finders Keepers

Well, looks like Finders Keepers has been moved to 2:00a E/T. That's another show that's being knocked off the daytime lineup. It and Nick Arcade should simply be removed or brought back to daytime, afternoon, or evening. 67.188.172.165 19:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Finders Keepers has been removed from Nick Gas replaced it is Figure It Out & Legends Of The Hidden Temple.

When did that happen? 69.141.79.71 19:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If it is the 2am est one, you will see legends of the hidden temple. if it is the 5am est one, you will see figure it out. it's sad how nick is slowly taking away the old shows. I bet next up is get the picture or nick arcade being replaced with Guts or something like that.

Semi-Protection

Is it possible to get semi-protection on this page since it seems to be unregistered users adding the nonsense? Tazz765 23:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey its semi-protected now. 91BOY 23:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Nickelodeon Arcade

I am really surprised this show hasn't been booted off Nick GaS. I can't imagine that many kids tuning in at 4:00am and 4:30am. 69.141.79.71 20:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I concur. You'd think they'd have removed it by now.

Do that many children watch the channel, period? 69.141.79.71 02:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Figure It Out

All I've ever seen on the network is Wild Style. 67.188.172.165 03:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Commercials & Shows On Nick GAS

These are the show now on Nick GAS-Double Dare 2000,Figure It Out,Get The Picture,Guts,Legends Of The Hidden Temple,Nick Arcade

These are the commerical now on Nick GAS-Global Gas,Heroes Of The Game,Live These Words,My Sport Is,Not For Shame,Pave The Way,Skill Drill,Snowboarding,Spent,Time Outs & Trade Tricks.

These are the show not on Nick GAS-Double Dare,Family Double Dare,Figure It Out:Family Style,Figure It Out:Wild Style,Finders Keepers,Gamefarm,Make The Grade,Play 2Z,Robot Wars,Rocket Power,Salute Your Shorts,Scaredy Camp,SK8-TV,Splash TV,Super Sloppy Double Dare,Super Special Double Dare,Think Fast!,What Would You Do?,Wild & Crazy Kids & You're On!

These are the commerical not on Nick GAS anymore-Fastbreak,Gas Caster Report,Gas Grill,Home Turf Highlights & MLS Player Of The Week

Get the Picture

Get the Picture have been stayed @ 1-2pm/12-1pm CT on weekdays (5 days a week) from 4/5/04 to 11/26/04 & everyday (7 days a week) since 11/29/04, @ 3-4am/2-3am CT on every early morning since 11/29/04 & @ 4-5pm/3-4pm CT, every afternoon since 11/1/05. It will be replaced with any show that currently aired or not been aired: 2 versions of GUTS(Nickelodeon GUTS & Global GUTS), What Would You Do?, Nick Arcade, Figure It Out, Legends of the Hidden Temple, Wild and Crazy Kids, Finders Keepers or the Double Dare series (Double Dare, Super Sloppy Double Dare, Family Double Dare & Double Dare 2000) and move to any different time slot between 12am ET & 5pm ET or be removed.134.124.143.149 15:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is Get the Picture prepared to be going be off the air on GAS?

It looks like it has not been back in the mornings since 9/05/04 & been automatically stay put @ 1pm/12pm CT hour when added 3am/2am CT repeat airing since 11/29/04. It should be replaced by the following shows that are airing: Double Dare 2000, Legends of the Hidden Temple, Nickelodeon GUTS, Nick Arcade, Figure It Out or other shows have not been airing: Wild and Crazy Kids, Global GUTS, Finders Keepers, Double Dare, Super Sloppy Double Dare, Family Double Dare. This will affect the schedule.12.127.178.158 21:06, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Get the Picture @ 1 & 1:30pm ET/ 12 & 12:30pm CT

The show been at 1-2pm ET for 3 years, 39 months(will be 40 months on 8/1/07), 173 weeks(will be 174 weeks on week of 7/30/07) & 1142 days. It's been a long time since it been here. do you agree?68.188.126.78 19:27, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nick GAS takes Get the Picture off the air

So well, is Nick GAS gonna be prepared to remove Get the Picture and It should be replaced by the following shows that are airing: Double Dare 2000, Legends of the Hidden Temple, Nickelodeon GUTS, Nick Arcade, Figure It Out or other shows have not been airing: Wild and Crazy Kids, Global GUTS, Finders Keepers, Double Dare, Super Sloppy Double Dare, Family Double Dare. This will affect the schedule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.12.38 (talk) 14:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nick GAS takes Nick Arcade off the air

So well, is Nick GAS gonna be prepared to remove Nick Arcade and replace with another episode of Guts at 4AM by September 2007 before September 2006 that Finders Keepers removed?

It's been a year since Finders Keepers been removed. Nick Arcade needs to be back in the daytime because since 2005, Get the Picture have not been yet to replaced at 12-1pm CT by another show while other shows along with Finders Keepers, Double Dare, Super Sloppy Double Dare, Family Double Dare & Global GUTS have not been airing on the network since then.12.127.178.158 22:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Nick GAS' Last Minute Change Predictions

the bad news is Get the Picture will expected to be removed by the end of September 2007 because it did'nt air in morning or evening hours so it will be needed replaced by Nickelodeon GUTS or any other show at 1pm ET, 4pm ET & 3am ET meaning Nick Arcade add more airings in morning,noon or evening. the good news that before being switch to broadband, the network planned to air finale week on 12/24-30/07.68.188.126.78 17:47, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nick GAS to become an online-only service

On December 31, 2007 Nickelodeon GAS is slated to leave the digital cable channel lineup and become an online-only service, with The N slated to take over Nick GAS's channel position after splitting from Noggin. DirecTV has confirmed that they will air both Noggin and The N. It is unknown if Dish Network, even though it carries Nick GAS, will carry The N in their lineup.

Putting scheduled end date in infobox

Recently, there has been edit warring over whether the infobox should have the scheduled end date of December 31, 2007. I personally think we shouldn't add the end date until it actually goes off the air, but that's my opinion. What do you all think? RJaguar3 | u | t 02:33, 23 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DISH and GAS?

Is there a reason why Nick GAS is not off of Dish Network yet? Or is it just because they are waiting until 6PM on 12/31 or until 2008? GD1223 (talk) 15:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Who knows, Nick GAS should still be a black screen (For it was starting after 6:00 AM, witnessed by viewers.), but it's back to broadcasting it's normal daily schedule for some reason. DietLimeCola (talk) 16:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why Nick GAS is still on Dish Network because Get the Picture has not been removed from lineup but it's been on GAS since 1999, Nick Arcade not yet been reinstated in the daytime and Both Global GUTS and the original Double Dare not have been back on the schedule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.151.128 (talk) 21:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OFF THE AIR

It is now official. Nickelodeon Games & Sports is now Off the Air. iO still shows the channel saying Off Air with the logo being Nick GAS and the 3 letter title being GAS. I'll add the ending date and a part of the article that says it's now off the air. I also should mention that The N is now airing on this channel. 68.197.90.193 (talk) 00:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's what Nick GAS has scheduled weeks/months ago, but due to Dish Network's brilliant planning, Nick GAS is back on the air (This was a last minute change, and last minute changes usually do not appear on the schedule). DietLimeCola (talk) 02:47, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How come I can't see it on broadband like they claimed? I can't find it anywhere online, let alone TurboNICK. 71.249.255.91 (talk) 14:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dish Network airing this channel - not a glitch?

Many of us believed the fact that Dish Network was still airing Nick GAS to be the fault of glitches incurred as a result of the switch. However, it turns out that this may be completely intentional. Read here. EPX2 (talk) 01:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Viacom did not plan for this of course, this is flat out Dish Network's doing. Viacom expected Dish Network to make the change, but for some reason they're not doing it for whatever reason. Like I stated before, starting at 6AM on 12/31/07, Nick GAS was nothing but a black screen, but about two hours later (after DirecTV corrected the problem), Viacom put Nick GAS back on the air probably due to Dish Network's request. We need people with Dish Network to view Nick GAS every once in a while until the official switch is made or until Nick GAS goes off the air again. (because as scheduled, the channel should not be broadcasting anything right now). Due to this, the close date of this channel might have to be changed too if it continues to air programs tomorrow and beyond. DietLimeCola (talk) 02:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


As of 7:09AMEastern Jan 1 Gas is still on Dish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.9.23.56 (talk) 12:10, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

9:00AM Jan 2 still has gas on dish —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.9.23.56 (talk) 13:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for keeping us updated, however I don't think it's going off the air until late January. Has anyone checked out the broadband channel on Turbonick though (I can't because I don't have Windows Vista), it might be showing the exact same programming as the one on Dish Network. If so, then Nick GAS may stay on way longer than we thought. DietLimeCola (talk) 16:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I still can't see it online anywhere. I have Verizon FIOS at home and it's already off the air. I don't know why it is that Nick GaS is not online. Anyone know? 71.249.255.91 (talk) 21:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think turbonick is an on demand thing, not an actual constantly streaming live network. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.9.23.56 (talk) 22:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't find it on demand. Perhaps it's not out for Verizon FiOS. In any event, I don't think it's available to anyone at all (other than Dish viewers). 71.190.208.128 (talk) 06:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

still on dish as of 6:40AMEastern Jan 4, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.9.4.35 (talk) 11:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


on demand on the internet not Fios —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.29.241.128 (talk) 10:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But where, though? Exact URL at all? 71.190.208.128 (talk) 01:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protect This Page

after seeing someone wrote info about this page related to Dish Network's issues with the N's launch as a 24/7 channel which was from a forum from the N website (which is not reliable source for info because the story about Dish Network opting out, is still a rumor at this time) so until Viacom or Dish Network makes a statement about the N/Nick Gas situation is made on their websites, so please lock this page to guest and new users of Wikipedia so they don't edit the page, because the user who wrote the info is a guest who has no name (the person who wrote the info is 71.124.50.191) since this page was reverted back after someone seen the reedit that isn't confirm by dish or Viacom (who owns Nick Gas and The N) so can we have that happen so this don't get reposted until Viacom or Dish Network can confirm it or it appears in a legit news website.--Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk) 04:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a good idea, I'm also tired of people adding the close date as December 31st. DietLimeCola (talk) 14:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

exact date

What is dish networks exact date on taking it off? can somebody find it? GD1223 (talk) 12:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

a guess of exact date

They say it might be no early till January 31, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.88.167.94 (talk) 03:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well its Feb. 1 WHERE IS THE N/NOGGIN SPLIT???? GD1223 (talk) 21:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NickGAS launched on TurboNick

Nick GAS launched on TurboNick today, without a logo on the episodes. Only the rotated shows are on there so far however. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudeman1233 (talkcontribs) 01:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It did? Where do I need to go, exactly? Any special link? 71.167.118.234 (talk) 05:22, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is Nick Arcade there? More specificaly one of the Episodes with Sonic 2 in it? Most likely not... =/ 2:22, 18 January 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.208.189 (talk)

I haven't seen anything on the site. 71.249.255.91 (talk) 20:21, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should be locked again

People with similar IP addresses (probably from the N forums) have been adding an unconfirmed "Dish Network is currently working on the channel glitch (it is not a glitch) and both the N will split to 24/7 etc etc". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dudeman1233 (talkcontribs) 00:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have searched Hi and Low and have seen no nothing about GAS on Turbo Nick or the main website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.10.100.136 (talk) 19:40, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GAS programs can be found on the Turbonick website by entering the name of a show (i.e. GUTS, Figure It Out) in the "Search" box 209.130.177.141 (talk) 21:52, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GAS' 24/7 Daily Schedule

the channel still airing on DISH Network but the entire 24/7 lineup hasnt been changed this much for weeks & months.Get the Picture has @ 12pm CT for 4 years & if have not been back in the morning hours but its been on the network since 1999, Nick Arcade been airing in late night/early morning hours only for more than 3 years and it havent been back to daytime since October 2004. it will be cooler if Global GUTS & the original Double Dare expected to be back on the air. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.237.220.220 (talk) 02:09, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Double Dare & Global Guts returns to Nick GAS

When will Double Dare & Global Guts be returned back to the Nick GAS TV Schedule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.88.166.172 (talk) 20:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GAS' 24/7 New Schedule Only For 3/9/08

the entire 24/7 lineup has been changed around a bit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.11.229 (talk) 03:38, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

end date

since nick gas is now The N, shouldnt there be an end date? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Legend of G (talkcontribs) 01:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Gas Changing To The N On Dish Network?

Dish Network said that The N took the change before Dish was fully aware and they are currently working on getting the channels separate. They said that they are working on channel numbers and need to re-program some things and they should both be 24/7 soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.245.15.178 (talk) 20:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Get the Picture is still on?

how many years does the show been on Nick GAS?? —Preceding 10 years. unsigned comment added by 199.181.178.246 (talk) 21:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this an "is" or a "was"?

Since there has been a protracted edit war going on, I wanted to put the discussion of whether Nick GAS should be considered to have ceased airing (since it is no longer generally available) or whether it should still be listed as a presently-airing channel (since Dish Network still gets the channel). Any thoughts? RJaguar3 | u | t 18:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Until it is removed from Dish Network, it should be kept as a presently-airing channel. CoolKid1993 (talk) 20:32, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think it should be a is until Dish removes it, also my papers tv guide says the n is 177, any ideas why? its the Washington post. 71.246.81.124 (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BLOCK THIS PAGE

Could we please lock this page as the same person who says that Dish is fully aware... is saying it will go on 1/31/09! Please lock it!!!GD1223 (talk) 00:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Finding NickGAS shows on turbonick

Incase anyone who doesn't know how to find nickgas shows, use the search function on the turbonick page. e.g. legends=legends of the hidden temple. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.155.43.226 (talk) 09:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We aren't a discussion forum on Nick GAS. We are a discussion on the Wikipedia article about Nick GAS and reliable sources about Nick GAS. See here for more info about talk pages. RJaguar3 | u | t 22:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Get the Picture's current time slot status (as of 6/15/08)

Here the number of days of Get the Picture been in each of current time slot (as of 6/15/08):

1pm-2pm ET since 04/05/04
(mon-fri:4/5/04-11/26/04, mon-sun: 11/29/04-???)
4pm-5pm ET since 11/01/05 3am-4am ET since 11/29/04
1444 consecutive days 958 consecutive days 1295 consecutive days

End date--once again

I've taken the liberty of removing the January 31, 2009 end date, as I cannot find a reliable source that indicates that that will occur. Feel free to add back the information with a source and talk about the issue here. Thanks. RJaguar3 | u | t 02:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I thought Nick GAS was finished forever when it left cable on December 31, 2007.

I thought Nick GAS was finished forever when it left cable on December 31 2007. What made that channel stay on Dish Network? AdamDeanHall (talk) 20:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea. It's all speculation. Since Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, I think it's fine to just state the facts without speculation, unless that speculation is confirmed by a reliable source. RJaguar3 | u | t 21:06, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It was a contract dispute or something it might be off soon.GD1223 (talk) 22:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's time to lock this article for awhile

Once again, people from the message board, theN.com, have been putting false statements on the Nick GAS and the N articles. Dish Network has brought out no new news about the switch -- or if there will ever be a switch. It's obviously not an error/glitch, because reprogramming shouldn't take over a year (they say January 31, 2009 - remember when GAS didn't shut down -- they brought up all sorts of dates just like this one). Seems like those people at theN.com can't get over the fact that the switch isn't happening and it may never happen and obviously don't know how to make anything on Wikipedia look real nor do they bring up a reliable source.