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Topics from 2007

60 Seconds

I think the 60 second rule has been done away with. If you watch the trailer it seems once the second touch happens your dead forever.

206.255.40.2 07:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC) Warren[reply]

You've got the rule wrong. If the person isn't touched within 60 seconds, someone else nearby will die in their place. If the resurrected is touched again, they die.

Specialk22 21:26, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Network / Air Date

the show is also played on the Canadian channel CTV, a day earlier, on tuesday. The real pilot premier was on CTV Tuesday October 2nd at 8pm. Why CTV shows the same episodes a day early is unclear, but it is true. —209.161.214.39 (talk) 04:13, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The same happened with Heroes last season on Global, and also Young and the Restless is always shown a day earlier, so its not without precedent. Anung Mwka 14:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mention a possible influence of Pushing Daisies?

Say, would anyone else consider this show to have many tribute aspects for the film Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain? They even feature the musical piece "Guilty" by Yann Tiersen, which was who did all the music for Amélie. Also, lots of green. And that specific time thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.144.45.226 (talk • contribs) 2007-10-06T00:13:55 (UTC)

The list of concepts and visuals "borrowed" from Amelie would be a mile long. Aside from being OR, however, such a list is not for Wikipedia to collect. Robert K S 18:04, 6 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dark Comedy?

I'm not really sure, but would the show be considered "dark comedy"? just asking. Doc Strange 15:07, 10 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would consiter it a bright comedy, that's diffrent, new, yet does have a deppresing undertone that is slightly detected ever once in awhile. You know people being dead and all. yet I don't find it that "dark"... it's perfect. Well at least I LOVE LOVE LOVE it.Umm... so no, I would not say it is dark!;)

Pushing Daisies has been described as "forensic fairytale" which nice covers both the detective and fantastic elements of the show, and although it does deal with death I personally don't think of it as a dark comedy. The lighter upbeat moments wouldn't work as well without the contrast of the darker moments. There is certainly a bittersweet touch to the comedy but compared to Dead Like Me a previous creation of Bryan Fuller it is far more upbeat and optimistic so I wouldn't really describe it as dark. -- Horkana (talk) 02:22, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dead Like Me was upbeat and optimistic to me :) It was about embracing life to me. Anyway, I wouldn't say that PD is dark, except perhaps in Ned's dodging of responsibility on the take-place rule.--87.42.205.130 (talk) 11:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last names

Chuck's name is "Charlotte Charles" but is Charles her last name or is it a middle name? There doesn't appear to be evidence that the Aunts share the last name "Charles". Also what is Ned's last name? 69.143.26.71 00:43, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Her name is Charlotte Charles. Charles is her last name. Her aunts are Lily and Vivian Charles. I have looked everywhere and can't find a reference to Ned's last name. Even ABC's site just calls him Ned the Piemaker. Olive Snook 14:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think that Ned not having a last name is just one of those "things" like the way they talk fast, and conected, or how ned doesn't show alot of expresion.

Webcomic

I added a small section about the comic that features new stuff and one that recaps old episodes, but I don't have any information about who makes them, or what the release schedule for the one with original content is. Your wiki-fu is needed! 66.36.150.101 17:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Daisies intertitle.jpg

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BetacommandBot 05:00, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Character pages?

Out of curiosity, is there a reason only Emerson Cod and Olive Snook have separate character pages? I'm not entirely sure they're necessary at this point, but if they have them, I'd think Ned and Charles should, too. Is it just by chance that no one's created those pages yet? VZG 19:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have created character pages for them but somebody decided to redirect those pages to the Pushing Daisies entry. - Jasonbres 12:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I reinstated the Chuck article. We'll wait and see what the deletionists do before reinstating Ned's. At least they should be consistent and not allow the articles on secondary characters to stand if they're going to redirect articles on the leads. In recent months, there has been a rather disturbing movement among the deletionists, who have made articles on television episodes and characters one of their primary targets. The Chuck article should certainly be improved, but a general trend on these television article redirects is an alarming lack of consistency. The targeting of television character and episode articles appears to be rather recent, and it is quite troubling. 128.138.42.218 00:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ow, wow. Now the Narrator even has a page, but still none for Ned. VZG 08:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I've gotten them all now. They have been redirected because they lack real world information, per WP:FICT. Considering how new these articles are, there is little excuse to letting them go without such information. -- Ned Scott 01:11, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarification and keeping us updated. VZG 10:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD notice

All of the character articles and episode articles (except for the first episode) have been nominated for deletion. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Misc Pushing Daisies articles. -- Ned Scott 02:10, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Topics from 2008

Pushing Daisies - Meaning of the phrase

So obvious it has been overlooked but where should the explanation of the phrase "Pushing Daisies" as in dead, as in worm food, etc. be placed? A link to Wiktionary or as part of the introductory note as part at the top of the page. Explaining the context and not assuming too much from the reader - the expression "pushing daisies" is non-obvious to those who have English their second language - is what makes the difference between an article and encyclopedic writing. -- Horkana (talk) 04:57, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, good idea. I think we should make a new sub-heading which explains the meaning. Щіκі RoςкЗ^(talκ) 14:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Might be able to rephrase part of the introduction to include some sort of explanation. Not sure how yet. -- Horkana (talk) 22:11, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I came here with that question - in British English the phrase is 'Pushing up the daisies' and I was wondering if 'Pushing daisies' was the American. 86.133.55.222 (talk) 20:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Daisyverse

I put that the series takes place in the Daisyverse. The term came from http://www.pushingdaisies-tv.com/forums in the subject called daisyverse where the fans voted on a name for the universe of Pushing Daisies. —Mugatu3333 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More specifically http://pushingdaisies-tv.com/forums/index.php?s=e14bbaedacafb4f3a53d2c89a826911b&showtopic=1200 —Mugatu3333 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Still, that's not really the official name of the "universe" that the series takes place in. So I wouldn't put it there. - Jasonbres (talk) 21:34, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's ok you don't have to. It's a fan coined name like they say about buffyverse and whoniverse pages. It's not like it's original research.--Mugatu3333 (talk) 22:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed - it isn't encyclopaedic, and terms coined by fan sites aren't used in a context that makes them seem "official". Otherwise, Wikipedia is in effect promoting the term as a de facto standard, which is not our role. --Ckatz^chat_spy 05:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further to this, I checked out the link; it is a fan forum discussion, discusses several different possible names, and has no value as a verifiable reference per Wikipedia's policies. --Ckatz^chat_spy 05:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What if we say that it is just a name used by certain fans.--Mugatu3333 (talk) 00:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I found the term used on another fansite.--Baitt (talk) 06:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Countries Also Aired In

Airing of the first episode started on 22 January 2008 in South Africa on the Subscription based TV channel, MNet. It airs every Tuesday evening at 19:30. I didn't add this to the article for the fear of inadvertently destroying it.

This links to the MNet page on the show http://www.mnet.co.za/Mnet/shows/displayShow.asp?id=569&Type=art&ArticleId=1970

Llvanden (talk) 19:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the USA considered 'normal' and the rest of the world is 'international' in this article??? —129.11.77.198 (talk) 19:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because it was made in the US and aired there first. 59.146.57.26 (talk) 05:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Parallels with Dead Like Me

Both shows by Brian Fuller feature a girl with a guy's nickname that dies, and is brought back to life - with a catch. She then lives more fully and grows in her post-life more than she was able to in her natural one. I think both definitely qualify as dark comedy in a sort of "morbid absurdity" sense. Camus would have appreciated these shows. 97.89.103.56 (talk) 02:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC) Thanatos[reply]

The fly

Stop saying that Ned's mother's death was caused by Ned's revival of a fly. Ned's mother did not die because of that, because
a.) As explained in almost every episode, but more specifically in "Pigeon", the rate of exchange for the life an animal is that of another animal, and the rate of exchange for the life of a human is that of another human, which is why Emerson didn't die when Pidge was brought back to life.
b.) It would take way more than a minute for Ned to revive the fly, go to Chuck's house, have a playdate with her, go back to his house, get cleaned up by his mother and then watch his mother kick the bucket.
In conclusion, Ned's mother actually did die of natural causes. - Jasonbres (talk) 23:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

article's "introductory" paragraph -- isn't very

could someone who knows something about the show please rewrite the intro paragraph so that it tells something about the content of the show, rather than details about people no-one gives a crap about and who they've worked with, what their bicycle colours are and so on. many thanks 85.194.245.82 (talk) 20:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UK Episode Skipped

Was it ever revealed what ITV were planning on doing if the strike hadn't happened? After all, there'd have been 13 episodes too many then, not just 1. Digifiend (talk) 11:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ITV were going to slot it in before Euro 2008 regardless, even though not a single British team will be at the European football championships :( ... --Badgernet (talk) 11:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They're putting it on their catchup service from 31 May for either 7 or 28 days (I've not been able to get a solid answer as to which) —82.21.104.117 (talk) 20:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Number of episodes ordered for second season?

Has anyone seen yet how many episodes were ordered for the second season? -Joltman (talk) 12:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Torchwood

Anyone notice any similarity with Torchwood, the Dr Who spin off. That show featured a glove with the ability of revive the dead for a short period of time. —165.69.13.113 (talk) 22:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

whats the age restriction?

hello, i'm a 15, nearly 16 in a month, and my legal guardian, has been questioning letting me watch it, she hasnt seen it, but she is protective and caring.

Is there any idea roughly, on the age limit? i think its great, and would love to know.

thank you (89.243.86.181 (talk) 20:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I don't know the formal ratings, as I've not seen a region 2 release of it, but to be honest, I'd let my 7 year old watch it with supervision (if she liked it), and a 10 year old could watch it without. Indeed, my 15 year old cousin who can't even watch shows like Grey's Anatomy or House M.D. has watched the whole series and laughed at it. There is very little of the "nasty" stuff that a parent would worry about. Most of the death and the like in it are so stylised and surreal that a 15/16 year old would be more likely to laugh at it than be disturbed by it (as an example, in this show, a revived pigeon has lost a wing, so olive and the aunts take a wing from a stuffed parrot and attach the parrots wing to the pigeon with what (I think) was called a bejeweller, with the net result of a pigeon with a green wing and some kind of jewelled gold backpack thing. —82.21.104.117 (talk) 20:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Field Cate

Who's the guy that keeps adding Field Cate's name to the regular cast? Please stop doing that! Cate is not a regular on the show. He's a recurring cast member! That's the reason why you never see his name after Kristin Chenoweth's name in the credits under "starring". He is ALWAYS listed as either "Co-Starring" or "Guest Starring". So please stop adding his name as a regular. -- Jasonbres (talk) 22:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the one who has attempted to add my son, Field Cate, to the cast list of "Pushing Daisies," since he's gained series-regular status on the show. I was simply trying to get the facts out, for the benefit of a more accurate page. But I apologize that I was unaware of the COI policy. Thanks. Fieldspring (talk) 09:29, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, unless he is stated in the "starring" section at the beginning of the show, he shouldn't be listed as a main cast member. -- Loveem at 11:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He is now... -- Fieldspring (talk) 14:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, I guess we will see. But until then, stop changing it. -- Loveem at 19:42, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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DumZiBoT (talk) 22:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of cameras capture colors like that?

The main article could be improved if there were more information on the lights and cameras used in shooting the scenes. The scenes really do look like they were shot in Technicolor. The colors appear to be very brightly lit, and I can't help but speculate that computers were used in post, so the colors could be made brighter and more uniform, all the way across the scene. 198.177.25.10 (talk) 04:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to the DVD, the color improvement is not caught on camera. It is done with computers. You know how you can adjust color with your television? That's basicaly how they do it. - Jasonbres (talk) 17:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So color correction through computer processing is how they did it. What kind of added time and expense did that consume? For every episode, two or three days more were spent on color correction alone? 198.177.27.32 (talk) 20:08, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I dunno. - Jasonbres (talk) 20:20, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Retrofit topic year headers

02-Oct-2008: I have added subheaders above as "Topics from 2007" (etc.) to emphasize the dates of topics in the talk-page. Older topics might still apply, but using the year headers helps to focus on more current issues as well. Afterward, I moved the Torchwood-topic into date order for 2008, and shortened 9 auto-signed dates. -Wikid77 (talk) 11:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]