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Musical

Isn't it about time that someone made an article for the musical? I'd do it, but, despite having seen it, I don't know enough and the website's not the most helpful. Cheers! —This unsigned comment was added by Willnz0 (talk • contribs) .

I do believe there is a seperate article for that, which can be found here --JJMan 20:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Ragner

Infobox

The infobox was missing alot and had some errors, I fixed it all and did a little cleanup on the page. I made a plot section and will do a little more work to raise the page's rating. If you think I messed up or want some help, please write here or better, leave me a message Caf3623 04:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Nominations & Awards/Class

OK. I just added ALL of the nominations and awards that the film recieved from 2000-2001. It took forever. Also, I have looked over this article and really think that it can be upgraded to B-Class, so I changed the assesment on it to B. Caf3623 06:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The article should be Start-class, no offense to you on all your hard work but check out Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Style_guidelines for information that all articles need to even be considered for a higher class, B-class is very close to being complete. Cbrown1023 19:59, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

plot

Where did the information for the first part of the paragraph come from? I don't recall it being in the movie at all but maybe I'm wrong? --Breezy hwesta 09:22, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Accurate?

It is stated that Billy has to miss ballet due to the strike. I remember in the film however, Billy's dad finding him doing ballet and banning him from doing it any more. Billy agrees and tries to keep his promise to begin with, but partly due to his mother's letter and partly due to his friend, and also due to his instructor, he goes to the audition in London and is accepted for ballet school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.152.148 (talk) 17:40, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Adam Cooper?

I suppose that the Adam Cooper in the link in the cast is not the correct one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.100.79.152 (talk • contribs) 22:29, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

The Stars Look Down

The sentence about this 1939 film (based on the novel of the same title by A.J. Cronin) being an inspiration for Billy Elliot should be included in this article, because it is factually correct. Also, it was never deleted before, Mr. Cooper (only the wording was altered to make it more speculative) - you took this upon yourself, so you're wrong there too. In its present form - "may have been" - it is already a tangential statement. I read an interview (I am looking for the url) wherein Lee Hall explicitly said that this film left an impression on him for various reasons (for one, it is partially set in Newcastle, his place of birth). The powerful sense of solidarity and socialist principles bodied forth in The Stars Look Down really resonated with him. He also spoke of how the film, directed by Carol Reed, was so visually memorable, even saying that certain shots from The Stars Look Down were deliberately echoed in Billy Elliot, such as the interminable rows of miners' houses in the pit village and the children playing in the mud outside the houses (Hall had a girl always standing in the alley near Billy's home). There are undeniable correlations between the two works (aside from the larger theme of striking miners and a son trying to escape from a life in mining...) - one being that Davey's (played by Michael Redgrave) younger brother, Hughie, chases his dream of a life outside of the pit via football - and he carries his cleats around with him everywhere (YouTube), not unlike Billy and his ballet shoes. In the film version of another Cronin novel, The Citadel, the protagonist offhandedly says, "What are you supposed to go down a mine in - dancing pumps?" (YouTube) - the list of similarities goes on... Writers often influence other writers - see Bloom's The Anxiety of Influence for further discussion - they often do not own up to this, but Hall clearly has done so in this case. In the Scotsman interview, Hall plainly states that he hopes to remake The Stars Look Down, and there is footage of the film shown during the opening number of Billy Elliot the Musical (which just happens to be titled "The Stars Look Down"!). Furthermore, the opening song's lyrics are strikingly close to the text ("We'll stand as one, beneath the sun" - obviously a dramatic counterpoint to "the stars look down") of Cronin's novel (also depicted in the film - YouTube), when Davey argues at a debate for the nationalization of mines: "I do not necessarily believe that everything under the sun should be publicly owned... I might, of course, say that coal mining is not something under the sun." Denying that there is any connection between these two works when there is abundant evidence to the contrary is downright ridiculous. I suggest that you first see The Stars Look Down (or even better, read the novel) before haphazardly deleting information that is entirely valid - this is an act of ignorance on your part and quite UNencyclopedic. Purpleroyale (talk) 03:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)