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St Anne

Thanks - I may well return there, & one day will do an iconographic article on the Life of the Virgin. Let me know when you have done on Kells & I will get going from Calkins. Johnbod (talk) 15:05, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kells - ok will do. Johnbod (talk) 12:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Kells theft

See the talk page; I have changed this to 1007, but can you check the ref to Henry:150 for the old 1009? Thanks. Johnbod (talk) 01:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch -- Henry confirms the 1007 date. I was focused on the quotation and missed it. Kafka Liz (talk) 13:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - often these are sneaky vandals who change a date to see if anyone notices - or a typo of course. Johnbod (talk) 13:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Franco-Mongol alliance

This Arbitration case is closed and the final decision has been published at the link above. PHG (talk · contribs) is prohibited from editing articles relating to medieval or ancient history for a period of one year. He is permitted to make suggestions on talk pages, provided that he interacts with other editors in a civil fashion. PHG is reminded that in contributing to Wikipedia (including his talkpage contributions, contributions in other subject-matter areas, and contributions after the one-year editing restriction has expired), it is important that all sourced edits must fairly and accurately reflect the content of the cited work taken as a whole. PHG is also reminded that Wikipedia is a collaborative project and it is essential that all editors work towards compromise and a neutral point of view in a good-faith fashion. When one editor finds themselves at odds with most other editors on a topic, it can be disruptive to continue repeating the same argument. After suggestions have been properly considered and debated, and possible options considered, if a consensus is clear, the collegial and cooperative thing to do is to acknowledge the consensus, and move on to other debates.

PHG is encouraged to continue contributing to Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects in other ways, including by suggesting topics for articles, making well-sourced suggestions on talkpages, and continuing to contribute free-content images to Wikimedia Commons.

For the Arbitration committee, Thatcher 01:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice!

Great news! :) Acalamari 20:39, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Acalamari! My home computer died on me, but I've got a replacement now. It's good to be back. Kafka Liz (talk) 20:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're very welcome! Acalamari Bellatrix! 21:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.

Ugh. I logged into a public lab and stepped away from the computer. Good catch, thanks. --Ryan Delaney ^talk 00:04, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I was just about to leave you a note to ask if someone had gotten into your account. It didn't seem like a typical edit for you. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 00:06, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PHG

File WP:SSP. How many newbie editors show up and add such a detailed reference, in French, on an article PHG has been editing. Quack, quack. Jehochman ^Talk 14:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent point. I'm afraid I won't be able to get to it until much later this evening, though... Kafka Liz (talk) 14:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IP user = newbie? LOL! What an excellent logic.--Appletrees (talk)

Sarcasm. Another service offered here. Appletrees, PHG is more than capable of speaking on their own behalf. Jehochman ^Talk 15:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of my own thought on this absurdity is not a matter of your concern. That is my free will. --Appletrees (talk) 16:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chrysobull

Joy

Aramgar (talk) has given you a Chrysobull! Chrysobulls promote Wikilove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Share the WikiLove and civility with everyone and keep up the excellent editing!

DYK

On 23 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Winchester Bible, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

-Susanlesch (talk) 06:26, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Hi, Kafka Liz. I re-added it. Let's see if it sticks this time. You're right it was dropped in the last update. Sorry I didn't notice. -Susanlesch (talk) 11:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Thanks for picking it. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 12:24, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On 23 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Winchester Bible, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Cheers, Bobet 12:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

For stepping in last night to diffuse the situation. It was such a small thing. Anyway, as you asked (your the first to ask!) its pronounced keohl; and is the Gaelic word for 'music'. Anyway, take care. Ceoil (talk) 20:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh and the Book of Kells was a great, great save bty. Ceoil

Thanks for the note, and for your kind words about the Book of Kells. I really enjoyed working on it and was glad to be able to help. About the other night, I'm glad everything has settled down. I just hated seeing everyone up in arms about something so trivial. Cheers, Kafka Liz (talk) 17:32, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the edits. If you might keep an eye on this, that would be appreciated. I need it, I cannot spell at all. Ceoil (talk) 22:52, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Similar would be great. The Triumph of Death? My, you were a happy little bunny as a a kid. It is great though. Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you should merge. Ceoil (talk) 00:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kafka Liz, nice to meet you. I thought I might not disturb if I edited from the bottom, but I'll leave Garden alone for now and you can continue. –Outriggr § 01:17, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I saw you had chosen Fränger—which is fine, I would think—and my last edit was to put back your Fränger after the edit conflict. Are you, um, a Kafka fan? –Outriggr § 01:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Liz. Thank you for all the work; and if you email a pdf of the article, that would be great. Sorry about all the typos! Ceoil (talk) 09:46, 3 May 2008 (UTC) Sent mail. Ceoil (talk) 17:39, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant. I've lit a cigarette, opened a bottle of red wine, and thrown the doors last album on the player thing. Reading now; gimme an hour. Ceoil (talk) 17:49, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Take it out. Its weak and marginal. Nice catch; I had a funny feeling somebody would call me on it ;-( Ceoil (talk) 13:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is very stong and interesting; I'm going to incorporate in the next few hours. Ceoil (talk) 13:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great, but it's too early for wine here. Was at a wake for a friend's birthday last night and I'm a bit shakey today, to put it mildly. Hence the low value edits you caught. Things are going from bad to worse; I can lift books and just about type, but I cant walk or cook. Ceoil (talk) 13:47, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Didymoteicho Fortress

Hey, I saw your request to fix an image about Didymoteicho Fortress. What do you want me to fix? Note: Detail in commons:Commons:Graphic Lab School/Images to improve#Didymoteicho Fortress. Ivan Akira (talk) 08:01, 5 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright it's done, please refer to User_talk:Ivan_Akira#Didymoteicho and commons:Commons:Graphic Lab School/Images to improve#Didymoteicho Fortress. Ivan Akira (talk) 06:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Garden

Reword certainly, but although Harbison has written a book on van Eyck, this is a throwaway comment in a survey work, and I doubt it is his idea. one or more of 3 Belgians with long names seem to be the culprits. Johnbod (talk) 00:51, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When in doubt, blame the Belgians. Would "Art historians speculate that..." be too weasle-ish? Kafka Liz (talk) 00:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No such thing as the wrong flavour

File:Ireland 37 bg 061402.jpg

Slainte

Your image was only three qarters full, and brown; not black, but it'll do. Thanks, once agian. Ceoil (talk) 02:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Smile

User:Eae1983 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing!
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--Eae1983 (talk) 04:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Komotini

Be careful on the fact that your sourced material you present from the so-called scholar refers to Turkish-speaking Minority and NOT Turkish Minority. Those are two pretty different things, which for your own reasons you see as the same. But they are not. Turkish-speaking minority refers to the Muslim minority speaking Turkish. There is officially NO Turkish minority. The Muslim Minority comprises of Turks (speaking Turkish), Pomaks and Roma. Anyway I added this material at the end where a reference about the multilingual status of Komotini is made. I sincerely hope you contribute with the same ethusiasm in Istanbul as well.Cheers.Aee1980 (talk) 12:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you read the lead carefully, you'll see that it does say "Turkish speaking." Thanks, Kafka Liz (talk) 12:51, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mother's Day

Hi KafkaLiz, I was wondering if you could look at something for me? There's an addition to the ASU library that I'd like to incorporate into Wikipedia, but since a relative of mine is involved, I have to be careful about COI. Would you be willing to take a look at this, and see if there's something that might be worth adding to the Elsie Dunin article?[1] Thanks, El on ka 02:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elonka, I'll check it out. Mondays can be long, hideous days for me, but I should be able to find some time. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 09:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and as a related matter, I recently created Cross-Cultural Dance Resources. I'm not a member of the organization, but since I am related to the organization's vice-president, there's a potential for COI. I'm pretty sure I have it properly sourced, but if you have a moment, could you please take a look, and maybe leave a note on the talkpage? And of course, if you see anything inappropriate, feel free to make changes as needed. Thanks, El on ka 15:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elonka, I'll check it out. I may not be able to get to it until this evening (that problem with Mondays :)), but I'll have a look. Kafka Liz (talk) 16:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Smiles and beaches!

Here's a beach for you! Beaches somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Acalamari 02:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tasty, thanks! Acalamari 15:59, 13 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You!

Thank you soooo much for your input on the article about Mrs. Pilate. I want to see this article expanded and improved as much as possible, and I'm genuinely interested in seeing this happen in a rancor-free environment. Personally, I am finding the process ruined by the actions of another editor (no point rehashing that here). However, I value having the intelligent and mature input of someone who can respect editors' opinions. Please stay and keep your wonderful observations and concerns flowing. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 16:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Ecoleetage. Like you, I am finding the process of improving the article somewhat less than collegial. I can work on gathering some sources, including the Origen and also an Encyclopedia of Orthodox saints. I may not be able to weight in on the article talkpage today -- busy day at work and long evening ahead -- but I have do have some opinions I'd like to share, particularly on the propsed name change. Much depends, I think, on whether the article empasizes the historical figure or the religious tradition, and within the latter, the differences between the more general traditional figure and the specific Orthodox saint. Hope I'll get a chance to weigh in on this, Kafka Liz (talk) 17:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again! Let's work together and with our like-minded peers to make this happen. I set up a Compromise List on the Talk Page for everyone to weigh in on what the article could look like. I hope this brings order from chaos. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA Thanks

Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker (talk) 16:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto

Kafka Liz, just a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully with 112 supports, 2 opposes, and 1 neutral. If there's something I've realized during my RFA process this last week, it's that adminship is primarily about trust. I will strive to honour that trust in my future interactions with the community. Many thanks! Gatoclass (talk) 06:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

For keeping an eye on my user and talk pages and keeping them free of vandals. :) Acalamari 15:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to help, but sorry that the need arose. You seem to be attracting an unusual amount of flak lately. Kafka Liz (talk) 15:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heh: just some IP-sockpuppeteer who has decided to vandalize my user and talk pages now that an article they were vandalizing previously has been protected. :) Thanks again. Acalamari 15:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right wing

No go right ahead, please. Actually, I was just about to ping you with a msg to you rude booay (ie you have email!!). Ceoil (talk) 00:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant. I'm just tending to the remaining issues at the PR, and will nom after that. Ja think its ready? Ceoil (talk) 01:15, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, lets give it 24 hours, as you say there are bits and pieces yet, and better to iron them outside of the spotlight. Also I notice a new source just popped up ;-) Thanks. Ceoil (talk) 01:33, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The pig is wearing a nuns head-dress.. Its to do with men being manipulated by femininity, and the notion the fall was essentially orchestrated through feminine guile. Not a very pleasant aspect of the work, considering womens positioning and prospects in society at the time. Ceoil (talk) 02:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, keep on going! If anything an FAC intensifies the rate of work. Ceoil (talk) 00:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer to keep journals in the citations only. But if a book is in the citations but not in the bibliography, then that needs to be fixed; which ones have you spotted. By the way, do you know how to wikify ISBN 9784805505458 so it turns blue? It beyond me. The FAC is going well, so far ;). Ceoil (talk) 19:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

much better. Ceoil (talk) 19:45, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No wait. Have a look at the formatting in this, maybe thats what we should go for. Leave it and I'll think about it. Ceoil (talk) 19:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree with those; would you mind looking after it, I working on the havard refs and the 'hairy people'! Abbreviate the cites, I suppose. Thanks again. Ceoil (talk) 20:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No author given, I'm afraid. Ceoil (talk) 20:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus. I'm trying to be all arty and intellectual here, and you are making jokes about Mr von Baldass and the hairy people—hairy from "head to foot" no less—he describes?? Tut tut. That remarkable and endlessly amusing concidence never even entered my head....<snigger> Ceoil (talk) 23:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Phew, glad to see you. Was feeling a bit out-gunned! Ceoil (talk) 23:57, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's much better. But we really need a copy editor! I pinged Notica, who really is one of the best, and then Outriggr, whom I worry may have left us - look at his last edit :( Ceoil (talk) 00:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jashiin's review is top notch though. Anyway enjoy your Friday night out. Log out, Go! Ceoil (talk) 00:29, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify: the article is now 5569 words, which under FAC glare is too much for any one editor to polish. You have done an amazing job copy editing, repairing and adding to the article so far, and note that no serious objection has been made on prose style; just on incidences of text recently added before you had got there first. (You might be relieved to hear I discovered Firefox yesterday, which as a built in spell-checker. Finally!) Anyway, I don't expect you to cover flow, repair, polish and style all in one bag. The style I like most for wiki is what Outriggr gave to Three Studies for Figures at the Base of a Crucifixion, the bastard has left me at the alter, though your work is bring it closer and closer to there. Ceoil (talk) 00:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sent a mail request re Dante and Bosch. Ceoil (talk) 00:34, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

oooooh! How nice ;-0 Congratulations and well done! Ceoil (talk) 01:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Jane Grey

Thank you for your advise.No, you were not butting in. I'm sorry and indeed rather embarrassed that you had to witness such a silly dispute which only began after I'd changed the article's DOB to the sourced established date. I never once imagined that such a minor edit would result in WWIII. Again, I offer my apologies for my participation in a senseless on-line dispute. I have, in fact moved away from Lady Jane as I really have nothing new to contribute to the article. Again I apologise and thank you for your tact and discretion.jeanne (talk) 11:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you did not take offense or see my comments as condescending or interfering. These things happen sometimes, and I certainly know from experience (I think we all do :) ) how easy it can be to get sucked into arguments like this, and how difficult to take a step back. Happy editing! :) Kafka Liz (talk) 11:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you made your timely intervention; you stopped me from making a complete fool out of myself before the Wikipedia community over a trivial detail. I really enjoy editing and submitting articles. Again, I must praise your discretion. Cheers.jeanne (talk) 14:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to bother you but it seems our editor PhDHistorian didn't receive your message. He is now vandalising my Talk Pages using an Anonymous User although I know it's him. I have not written to him since your advice nor have I edited the Jane Grey article, but it seems he's out to persecute me. It's upsetting and disruptive to my work at Wikipedia. He is also trying to provoke a fight between me and other editors by revertind stuff I deleted from MY talk pages. KafkaLiz, what can I do? It's most unpleasant.jeanne (talk) 16:25, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to see that you've been having trouble on your user- and talkpages. I'm not an admin, so I couldn't have been as helpful as Rockpocket was, but I can always offer advice. First off, I'm not sure that PhDHistorian is responsible for the vandalism to your talkpage. I'm pretty sure if he had more to say to you, he'd say it directly. Also, his userpage indicates that he may have retired from Wikipedia. Finally, the IP user's other contributions here and here seem to indicate that it is some third party. In short, I think this is just a troll, someone looking to stir up a little drama. The best thing to do in these cases is to revert and ignore. Don't let them get a rise out of you, because that is exactly what they are trying to do. The best places to ask for assistance if the trouble persists are Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts and Wikipedia:Requests for page protection.

On another note, if you do choose to interact with an anonymous IP vandalising your page, it is better to use one of the templates here rather than to write a personal note. The templates serve as formal warnings than can help lead to a block, and they also preclude the possibility that your temper may get the better of you. Does that make sense?

Finally, while you are free to delete whatever you like from your own personal talkpage, it is considered bad form to delete messages you leave others. The preferred method on Wikipedia is to strike withdrawn comments by <s>placing strike tags around them</s> ~~Example~~.

I hope I've been able to help, Kafka Liz (talk) 13:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again for your constructive advice. Yes, I can see that the vandalism to my pages was indeed the work of trolls. What pests they can be. Next time I won't respond at all.08:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)jeanne (talk)

Thanks...

for the positive feedback at my RFA and for the vote of confidence too, of course. It is nice to have one's contributions appreciated, isn't it? I have seen and respected yours too. Anyway I hope to goof up too badly, too soon! --Slp1 (talk) 13:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're more than welcome. I thought the patience and thoroughness you displayed while working on Christian Polak were admirable. You do good work here, and I doubt you'll "goof up." :) Kafka Liz (talk) 10:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mrs. Pilate Gets GA Status

Hey, I just found out that Pontius Pilate's wife received WP:GA status! Thanks for your input in this endeavor.

If I wasn't a big bully, I could actually cry based on the stress and grief I got in trying to push that damn article along. I am happy that my persistence paid off, but I genuinely wish someone along the line could've said "Thank you, Eco, for believing in this." Oh well, on to other conquests. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. In view of your efforts to bring order to that chaotic discussion on Pilate's wife, please accept this token of my appreciation:

		Civility Award
		For expecting (nay, demanding!) only the best of editors in a Wikipedia discussion. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations on Mrs. P's promotion to GA status! This is excellent news - I know you put a lot of hard work into the article. I'm sorry I wasn't able to offer more help. Once the FA I'm working on is done, I'd still like to see if I can't track down a few more sources for the article, as I am intrigued by the topic. I'll keep you posted on what I find.

Thank you, also, for the barnstar: it's such a lovely surprise to get one. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the kind message. With additional sourcing, perhaps we can promote the article for WP:FA status? Be well! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If we can find the sources, we can certainly try. I don't think it'll be easy, though, realistically speaking. Not necessarily impossible, but not easy. Kafka Liz (talk) 15:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yay for civility

I'd just like to second that civility barnstar you got the other day! --Bonadea (talk) 12:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sarayburnu

Have you seen this: User_talk:Lambiam#Ridiculous_Perspective.3F. Aramgar (talk) 16:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I've read the whole thing more closely now. I'm holding off editing it until I can write something for the talkpage that's more than just a brief note. I'm a bit crunched for time today and can't get into anything major just yet. Kafka Liz (talk) 17:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bosch

	The Barnstar of Cultural Transcendence
	Awarding this barnstar to Liz for her content addition, extensive copy editing, extensive formating, extensive restructuring, and for the many suggestions given along the way in bringing The Garden of Earthly Delights to FA. And for generally being a good 'un. Ceoil (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aee1980 is back!! :))

Hi Kafka Liz, our dear friend Aee1980 from Komotini is back, under a new name (Bunzo1980 -note the huge difference-) and is actively trying to take a revenge on us. He may soon come into your articles too. Anyways, as I do not know how to report sockpuppetry, I am also sure you could help me with that. He attacked one of my stub articles, List of largest flags because it contained a flag of the TRNC. He was warned for vandalism once, but he managed to convince the person that warned him that "The article was hijacked for political purposes" so the same person posted it for deletion in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest flags where he found many people, mainly americans, who did not like the article's shape (well, it's a stub...) that voted for a "delete". The worst, but maybe funniest part is that, he asserted in his comment for deletion that "the author has been involved in similar situations where articles have been modified to promote certain political values" when his account is just 4 days old... Which situations is he talking about? My account is 2 years old and I have never gone political, nor being accused as such, wait... He probably means Komotini, where we cleared, together with you and Aramgar his politcal propaganda.. There he gives away his true persona as Aee1980 :))

You are invited to check for yourself at: List of largest flags and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of largest flags...

I really appreciate your efforts to bring clarity into this very obscure world!

Cheers! --Eae1983 (talk) 22:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merhaba, Eae1983. I'm sorry not to get back to you sooner - my life's been pretty busy lately. :) Thank you for your nice note. I see that Aee1980 has been blocked as the sockpuppet of a banned user. I was not 100 % certain that Bunzo1980 was the same person -- although I can certainly see why it seemed likely -- and it seems that the checkuser indicates that they are indeed not the same. That said, it is certainly possible that he (or she) is someone's sockpuppet, as they definitely seem to have a certain knowledge of past disputes. Anyway... I'd prefer not to get involved with the flag article. While I appreciate your good intentions, it's my experience that flags and flag articles cause a lot of argument and edit-warring. For me, names are more important. Also, the situation in Northern Cyprus seems extremely complex: I have never been there and don't currently feel qualified to comment. I hope you understand. :) İyi akşamlar (my time), Kafka Liz (talk) 23:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sistine Chapel

Liz, I'm going to try and tackle the above if you are interested on collebarting again. May a bit ambitious, but we'll see how it goes. All the beast. Ceoil (talk) 12:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Symmachi-Nicomachi diptych

On 16 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Symmachi-Nicomachi diptych, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 11:28, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Northern Renaissance

If they're in Category:Early Netherlandish painters, which is a sub-cat, they don't need to be in the NR cat as well. It's a bit different for cats like Category:Arts in the court of Philip the Good as that is a less obvious place to find people. What could usefully be added, to the main cat, or the national subs where they exist, are the national groups of Category:Renaissance humanists. Cheers Johnbod (talk) 01:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done that now. Johnbod (talk) 03:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for being patient with me -- I'm new to working with categories on a broader scale like this. What you say makes perfect sense. Kafka Liz (talk) 12:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem at all - it's great to see someone else taking an interest in the poor cats - most of the better editors don't. Johnbod (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi liz -

Hi liz, I am satyajit ..I have created the sambalpuri/Koshali page on wikipedia...But off late i found many peoples are writing wrong information on my page and it seems you support them..I have made this page with an intention to let the world know about our culture i.e sambalpuri..This page represents the way of life and culture 2500000 people of whole western orissa but few peoples are trying generalise our culture with them...I did a lot of research and have collected so many information to create this page..but now you people are undo'ing changes made by me...Request you to please let me try to inform the world about our people who are still staying in jungles ..yet to get basic amenities...I hope you will understand me...thanks for your patience... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satyajit Nayak (talk • contribs) 12:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updated Catullus WikiProject

Hi Liz,

I updated the Catullus WikiProject this morning, which should give us a central location for discussing things and reach consensus. I made sub-pages for the three main issues:

so that newcomers will be able to find out what our consensus is easily. We can add other special topics as needed.

We really could use at least one image for the WikiProject. Have you been able to find something that's not covered by copyright?

I hope you like what you see, and please accept the invitation to join there! :) Willow (talk) 17:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads-up, Willow. :) I will reply here in short order. Kafka Liz (talk) 01:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beware what you want

Or something. Coming soon[2]. Eeek! Ceoil ^sláinte 02:06, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd noticed you were gone, but I hadn't realised you were dead[3]. Glad you recovered, as 'dead' can often be fairy serious. I expect quite a lot of vandelism with the Garden, give the number of naked people running around in the article, but ach, nothing that can't be handled. Welcome back anyway. ( Ceoil ^sláinte 23:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Catullus images?

Hi Liz,

Have you had any luck in finding apt images for Catullus? I'm just checking in, please don't feel rushed. Oh, you might not have noticed, but our fellow Catullus-friend, Yolgnu, has retired from Wikipedia. :( Willow (talk) 13:15, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Willow -- Please forgive my belated reply; I've been busy off-wiki beginning a new job, so I had to put Catullus on hold for a bit. I've been on an unannounced wikibreak for the past couple of months and am just beginning to get back into editing again. I do have a list of mss. culled from a critical edition that I believe will be useful. I'm sorry to hear about Yolgnu; being away, I didn't know he had left. Kafka Liz (talk) 11:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi!

Hi Kafka Liz, thank you so much for the kind note on my talk page! I can assure you that there's been no problems, just been on a break. :) I've responded to your E-mail, and I'll thank you here as well for your kind words in that note you sent. Best wishes. Acalamari 16:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to hear you are back, and that all is well. I'm still a bit sporadic, as you can see - new job, family visits eating up my time... :) Kafka Liz (talk) 15:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pleased to see you too. :) I hope everything with your family and work are good. Best wishes. Acalamari 15:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again

Nice to see you back again, and hope all is well and that your new job is suiting you well. You didn't miss much wiki drama during your break, except a lot of srife and the fact that we lost Outriggr to the real world + I still cant spell. Oh well. Ceoil ^sláinte 16:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He, Who would have thought that the real world could trump Wikipedia As FAR as I can see wikipedia is what happens when there is no real world. Anyway, the amazing library you mention has my interest; could you get a few JSTOR article for me if I asked nicely? Pretty Please. Ceoil ^sláinte