Help Page Patrollers are a group of Wikipedians who patrol the help desk and help users who have placed the {{helpme}} template on their talk pages. The patrol is an optional service. Patrollers can come and go, and there is no official sign up process.

Regular patrollers may add {{User HPP}} or {{user help desk}} to their user page:

This user is a help page patroller

This user volunteers at the
Wikipedia Help Desk.

What helpers can do

Make sure all messages are formatted correctly,
Answer questions,
Check the Help Me Category and answer questions from users,
Check archives

Patrollers

Add yourself with

#~~~ (Joined ~~~~~)

and if you are not using the userbox, add yourself to the Help Desk Patrol Category.

List

Levonscott User talk:Levonscott User:Levonscott (Joined 07:38, 21 August 2011 (UTC))[reply]
StewieGriffin! • Talk 07:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC) I'm Back Founder of the HPP[reply]
RyRy5 (talk) (Joined 00:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Hersfold ^(t/a/c) (Joined 21:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Soxred93 | talk bot (Joined 19:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]
...... Dendodge.Talk^Help (Joined 09:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Alexfusco⁵ (Joined 14:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Bauani (talk) (Joined 22:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Kerotan ^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) (joined 06:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]
::Manors:: talk to me (Joined 15:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Sunny910910 ^{(talk|Contributions|Guest)} (Joined 02:21, 4 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Teratornis (talk) (Joined 06:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) (Joined 01:54, 13 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes (Joined 16:13, 16 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Josh Powell (talk) (Joined 14:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]
-- ShinmaWa^(talk) (Joined 19:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC))[reply]
-- Natalya 22:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Active earlier this year, hope to regain that. Rudget (Help?) 13:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ChristopherJames2008 (talk) (Joined 13:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Iamzork (talk) (Joined 11:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) (Joined 02:30, 15 June 2008 (UTC))[reply]
:-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] (Joined 16:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC), but have been doing this for ages)[reply]
–thedemonhog talk • edits (Joined 18:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC); made twenty-three edits to the help desk page prior to joining the patrol)[reply]
IaM7DeadlySins (talk)
Scottydude _talk (Joined 02:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]
TermyJW - The One and Only (Joined 13:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC))
Eric (mailbox) (Joined 04:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Etineskid (talk) (Joined:18:32, 23 July 2008 (UTC))[reply]
ukexpat (talk) (Joined 15:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Lego K^ontribs T^alk M (Joined 00:51, 12 September 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Chamal ^talk _work (Joined 15:20, 16 October 2008 (UTC), but have been contributing to Help desk long before signing up here.[reply]
Genius 101 ^Guestbook (Joined 22:28, 18 October 2008 (UTC))[reply]
Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 06:46, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
-Porchcrop ^{(talk|contributions)} 04:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
$\xi ri\pi i\vartheta \alpha \xi$ (Joined 09:34, 1 August 2009 (UTC))[reply]
Unionhawk ^Talk ^E-mail 18:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
LbB (Joined 14:33, 5 October 2009 (UTC))
Mysdaao ^talk (Joined 15:50, 18 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]
Enti342 (talk) (Joined 21:30, 20 January 2010 (UTC))[reply]
-- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ (Joined 07:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC))[reply]
œ ^™ 23:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bobby122 (talk) (Joined 15:17, 27 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Sainsf--Sainsf<^> (talk) 15:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Imagine Wizard (talk • contribs • count) Iway amway Imagineway Izardway. (Joined 13:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC))[reply]
John of Reading (talk) (Joined 22:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]
—ASPENSTI—TALK—CONTRIBUTIONS (Joined 17:38, 2 March 2011 (UTC))[reply]
Goswamir14- www.rohangoswami.webs.com (Joined 00:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC))
Vibhijain (Joined 11:34, 15 April 2011 (UTC))
Electriccatfish2 (talk) (Joined 16:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC))[reply]
Creeper jack1 (talk) (Joined 21:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC))[reply]
—Prhartcom (talk) (Joined 02:27, 22 September 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Denver C. (talk) (Joined 16:36, 9 May 2015 (UTC))[reply]
Masssly (talk) (Joined 18:12, 12 June 2015 (UTC))[reply]
MarkYabloko (Joined 07:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC))[reply]
Boomer Vial^{Holla! We gonna ball!} (Joined 20:50, 24 February 2017 (UTC))[reply]
TheDoctorWho (talk) (Joined 02:46, 13 January 2018 (UTC))[reply]
Sam Sailor (Joined 21:49, 6 April 2019 (UTC))[reply]
Kichu🐘 ^Discuss (Joined 11:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC))[reply]
Jack Reynolds (talk to me!) (email me!!) (Joined 12:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC))[reply]
Kk09771 (talk) (Joined 17:21, 27 January 2022 (UTC))[reply]
ThatOneWolf ^{(talk|contribs)} (Joined 23:03, 9 November 2023 (UTC))[reply]

June 8

HTML?

Resolved

– requester resolving. RyRy5 (talk) 02:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've been seeing that word often and I was wondering what "HTML" meant and what it stood for. Maybe what it is used for. A l ink would help also. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 01:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See HTML. Soxred 93 02:01, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Briefly, it stands for "Hyper Text Mark-up Language". It's the basic language used to write webpages. This article has a lot more info, as Soxred93 points out. TN‑X-Man 02:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Thanks. -- RyRy5 (talk) 02:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Creating page?

im part of a great orgonization and would like to create them a page on Wikipedia. Is that possible? If so, please explain. THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS!

Sincerely,

Marissa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.67.99.3 (talk) 02:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since your currently an IP address, no. You have to create an account first and then you will be a registered user. If you were a registered user, It's possible to create the page, yes, but it make sure it passes WP:N, more specifically WP:CORP if your going to create an organization.. --RyRy5 (talk) 02:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:BFAQ too, and WP:WWMPD to see what often happens to new articles by new users, due to Wikipedia's complicated rules that are all too easy to unwittingly violate. You may want to list your organization on another wiki such as Wikicompany, while you learning whether and how you can create an article on Wikipedia. Also see WP:COI since you are part of the organization you want to make an article for. If you don't want to create an account you could try requesting an article. --Teratornis (talk) 03:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Font

How do i make the font on wikipedia smaller? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.195.251 (talk) 02:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean make the text on Wikipedia smaller all the time, your browser should support something that will shrink the text on a website (CTRL and +/- in Firefox). If you mean just make certain words in the articles smaller, the code is SMALL TEXT or TEXT. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 03:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a mouse with a center wheel, you can make the font you view smaller by holding down the Control key and cycling the wheel one click away from your wrist. Corvus cornix_talk 16:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~::Similarly, in Firefox at least, CTRL + the minus sign/dash key will decrease font size, CTRL + the plus sign to increase. – ukexpat (talk) 16:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)~~Doh, already covered above. – ukexpat (talk) 16:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection and notices

Resolved

– 15:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I was aware of some debate about how to handle tags for when a page is protected. For instance, if a page is protected so that only users registered some time could edit, then a small lock in the top right corner would be present.

Mitigation of global warming is protected from editing from all users, but I don't see any notice or even discussion. Unless I'm wrong about something, that needs admin attention. -Theanphibian ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An admin has placed a protection tag on the article. The protection log for any page can be located by going to the history tab for any page, which includes a link to view logs for this page. -Optigan13 (talk) 04:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion on this currently at Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard/Incidents#User:Raul654 and indefinite full protection of 10 global warming related pages -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 07:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possible copyvios

I found film articles with plot summaries pretty much word-for-word identical to their Turner Classic Movies counterparts, e.g. Take the High Ground and the TCM version, Kiss of Death and this, Destination Gobi and this, etc. etc. These were the work of User:Thismightbezach, so I left a message on his talk page asking him about it in December 2007. I got no response. I brought this issue here, more recently as I recall. Somebody promised to investigate, but never got back to me. So now what? Clarityfiend (talk) 04:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Copyright problems these appear to be possible copyright violations but it is not blatant. It appears that TCM allows to submit information. I see your notification [1] but it appears to have been mixed in with hundreds of bot image notifications, you may want to notify the user again, and work them out based on the instructions at the copyright problems page. -Optigan13 (talk) 04:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When placed on the balance of probabilities, taking into the account the nature of TCM, the ease of contributing to TCM vs. Wikipedia, the Wikipedia contributor (who appears to have gotten in trouble with copyvios in the past), and the sheer number of pages, I would have to say that it is highly likely that the Wikipedia's version copied TCM's version -- not the other way around. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 07:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citation Templates

Resolved

– Feel free to laugh at my stupidity

58.107.242.113 (talk) 10:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm an established user here, I'm just editing as an IP for a liitle while. Anyway, I feel silly for asking this, but I've had a minor issue here. I'm trying to cite a newspaper that I got off LexisNexis, what's the proper citation template I need to use? And, please tell me rather than doing it for me. Thanks, 58.107.242.113 (talk) 10:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to use template:cite news, which seems to work well. Thus: <ref name="">{{cite news | last = | first = | date = | title = | work = }}</ref>, where "work" is the title of the newspaper (which I wikilink, where appropriate), and the name="" in the ref tag is normally the last name of the author and the year (just in case the same article needs to be referenced more than the once). - Bilby (talk) 10:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh, I was using it, I just realised I didnt add <ref> and </ref>. See?. (whacks self for stupidity) 58.107.242.113 (talk) 10:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've made the same mistake so often, I keep the various citation templates enclosed in pre-made ref tags on my user page. Copy-and-paste solves many an error. :) - Bilby (talk) 11:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've edited Wikipedia for over four months with my account, and I've never made a mistake like that. :) 58.107.242.113 (talk) 11:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

What is the typical age (range) for banned users? 124.181.14.142 (talk) 12:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It probably varies a lot, but there is no real way to be sure. As Wikipedia does not ask for such information, it has to be freely given. In my experience, there are not many vandals/banned users who volunteer their birthdates. TN‑X-Man 13:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As part of the way wikipedia works, they do not ask for personal information like this, so it would be nearly impossible to discover this information, little alone report on it. :) However, given the immaturely of the user, you might assume that they're young(er) but that is not always the case -- plenty of "old" people act like teenagers some times. Tiggerjay (talk) 15:38, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

IMHO however, a measurable indication is the most frequent year articles that get spurious additions of birthdays - either non-notable self entries or insulting entries to their friends. These seem to peak around the 1980s but I have not actually done any counting. SpinningSpark 18:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Cute 1 4 u, for example, was 11 when she was banned. However, there are plenty of active constructive contributors around her age that help the encyclopedia. Hope this helps. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 01:21, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing an common image

I asked this at commons too, but no one have answered yet.
At the moment there's a commons:Image:Euro 2008.png wich was uploaded after Image:Euro_2008.png, the en: one is tagged with "The Wikimedia Commons has another file with the same name as this file. To include the Commons media file in Wikipedia, this locally stored file needs to be renamed.", though the picture here at commons is the "wrong" one, not in order with the old ones Image:Euro 2004.png, Image:Euro 2000.png etc.

So, how would you move the WP:EN picutre to commons when there's already a picture there. ← chan dler 13:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like it's best to request a rename at Commons, if the image isn't in line with the others in terms of naming. Commons renames can be a complicated business, though, because so many wikis may be using the image. --ais523 15:37, 8 June 2008 (U T C)

Well it's got the right name, it's just that the picture is wrong... It might be easy to just upload a new version of the image which i right, but perhaps the talk page and other history should follow aswell? ← chan dler 16:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How to edit a wrong fact in the box on the top right of the Wikipedia page about Soko Morinaga Roshi?

The page I am asking about is the page about Soko Morinaga Roshi.

I knew him when he was alive and I still know his successor.

His successor is not Venerable Myokyoni as stated in the box on the top right of his page on Wikipedia.

I would like to correct this as soon as possible.

Thank you.

Signed: hontodesu —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hontodesu (talk • contribs) 14:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">[reply]

To edit the top-right boxes, or an intro of an article, you must click on the "edit" tab, as there is no link to only edit that section. Depending if it's protected or not, you may or may not edit a full page unless you are registered. Chimchar monferno (talk) 15:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also please be sure that your information is has a reliable and verifiable source. First hand knowledge is not sufficient per WP:OR, as well as there may be some problems with WP:COI so you might want to review those first. Tiggerjay (talk) 15:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If by "correct" you mean "remove the incorrect information" then it would be unreasonable to expect you to provide a souce which positively asserts that the information is wrong. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 17:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, correct - however please remember to include an edit summary when removing content which appears valid, otherwise it may appear to be vandalism. Tiggerjay (talk) 21:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki

What does this mean, which is coming up on my wiki:

Database error
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

    (SQL query hidden)

from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'simlandw_wiki.cu_changes' doesn't exist (localhost)".

How do I fix it? StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 17:54, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try reinstalling the checkuser extension, and making sure you've run its initialisation scripts correctly. --ais523 17:57, 8 June 2008 (U T C)

This is coming up at Special:Userrights StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 18:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is an SQL file in the download of the checkuser extension. Did you run that on the database? You have to do that. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 18:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can search for MediaWiki error messages on these sites with Google, by clicking the following links:

If other MediaWiki administrators experience an error message, often someone writes about it on one or both of those sites. --Teratornis (talk) 22:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

how to make my posting appear on web

i posted something about theater how can i make it appear on the wide web linda samet or lhsamet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhsamet (talk • contribs) 18:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you posted it here on Wikipedia, it'll take a few days before Google picks up the new page or changes you made. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 20:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that you posted some comments about theater on your user talk page: User talk:Lhsamet. Your user talk page is on the World Wide Web, so your comments are already on the Web. However, like many people who are new to Wikipedia, you don't seem to understand the proper way to use Wikipedia. Please read: Help:Talk page, Help:User page, and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. Most likely, the type of comments you want to post here would be more appropriate for some other site. For example, you could start your own blog site. --Teratornis (talk) 22:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Content Box on Userpage?

Resolved

– Done using __NOTOC__...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 18:39, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there,

Can someone remove the "contents" box on the top of my userpage? It's aesthetically unpleasing, and of little value on my userpage.

Cheers, Perfect Proposal ^{Speak Out!} 18:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done using __NOTOC__...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 18:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Perfect Proposal ^{Speak Out!} 18:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Language question

what language is this and wnat does it mean coucou ca va C'est pierette tout le monde va bien. Gros bisous pierete —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.185.11.92 (talk) 21:00, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be French. However, I am not certain what it means. TN‑X-Man 21:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might try Google Language Tools to see if you can get a coherent translation. The French to English translation appears to translate some, but not all of it. Also, this question would be better brought up at one of Wikipedia's Reference Desks, which specialize in answering factual questions. -- Natalya 21:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Reference Desk even has a Language section. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 21:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

'? OK it was made of stone all the world ? good' is my amateur translation, going on what I learnt a school...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 21:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And the second sentence is '? ? something about stone', I've heard 'gros' before, but can't remember the meaning...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 21:45, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Babelfish helped me fill in 'cuckoo OK it was made of stone all the world goes good. Large kisses stone'.

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Language reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps....... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 21:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Hello, how are you? It's Pierette [I suspect that Pierette and Pierete are the same; a spelling mistake]. Everyone is fine. Love [lit. big kisses], Pierette [or Pierete]." Coucou is a greeting (like bonjour), tout le monde means "everyone" or "everything", not sure which, but I suspect the former, and gros bisous is literally "big kisses" which can be thought of as "love". x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sharon Johnston Park

Resolved

– —teb728 t c 23:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I merged Sharon Johnston Park to Sharon johnston park, using the latter name for the merged article because it had most of the history. Now I would like to switch the names of the article and the redirect. One way that should be possible would rename the redirect to a temporary name; rename the article, and then rename the temporary name to the original article name, fixing up the target of the redirect. Is there something easier? —teb728 t c 23:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requested moves. And I am not even sure if your plan would work. –thedemonhog talk • edits 23:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done (properly, with the history merged). Nick (talk) 23:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, faster than I could even read the directions at WP:RM. Thanks. —teb728 t c 23:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Magic words

I'd like to add a part to the Aviation Project banner {{WPAVIATION}} that, when someone uses the B-class checklist, there will be a timestamp of when they did it. I'm guessing I'd need to enter something along the lines of "If you do this, then do this:{{subst:LOCALMONTHNAME}} {{subst:LOCALDAY}}, {{subst:LOCALYEAR}}". But how do I write that without the subst'ed stuff getting subt'ed into the template? - Trevor MacInnis (Contribs) 23:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to take a look at {{PROD}} as an example of this. In short, use this little trick: {{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>CURRENTMONTHNAME}} -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 00:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 9

Helping nominating Allegations of Israeli Apartheid for deletion

I did the standard deletion process tag but that was deleted. The neutrality tag was also deleted but I re-added that. I've tried several times to delete it according to the manual, but I've been having some difficulties. I've seen some strong support to delete the article, and I personally feel it is a good candidate for deletion. If someone has the patience to guide me through this process I'd be very appreciative. And for those who want to know, I've been editing for more than 6 months. Only recently did I actually register a username. here is the mentioned article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid Wikifan12345 (talk) 01:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)thanks for any response[reply]

Could you provide a rationale for deleting the article? Also, for those interested, there are two Arbitration cases that are relevant: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Allegations of apartheid & Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Palestine-Israel articles. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 01:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. 1) Support. Vast majority of people who were involved in the nomination process (the most recent one) voted for delete. 2) It is politically biased. Article is thoroughly sourced, but article is over-dependent on biased sources. Many have preferred the term propaganda piece, and I agree with them. 3)The article has been in clean up limbo for more than a year, but nobody has made any real attempt to do a write-up. All in all, I think it is a perfect candidate for deletion. I can't think of any other reason why it should stay other than the potential to be cleaned, which as far as I can tell won't happen any time soon. If I see some pursuit by other members to fix this article, I'll gladly drop my want to delete this article. thanks for the quick response. Wikifan12345 (talk) 02:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

update: Also I've recently learned that several of the original authors of the article have been banned/disciplined for wikipedia violations. I don't know how relevant that is but I thought I should let you know! Wikifan12345 (talk) 02:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done The AfD can be found here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of Israeli apartheid (8th nomination). — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 02:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Admin help may be required at Steve Peters

Resolved

– Disambig page created. --TN‑X-Man 03:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A new editor has, I think, gone about the creation of the Steve Peters disambig page the wrong way. The page about the politician was there first with an edit history and talk page. I think he should have created Steve Peters (disambiguation) as the disambig page, rather than copy and paste the original page to Steve Peters (politician). Can an admin fix this -- I don't want to mess it up any further. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 02:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be corrected by GlassCobra, as there is now a disambig page at Steve Peters. Let me know if this helps. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 03:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, excellent thank you. – ukexpat (talk) 03:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disappearance of an entry...

Hi, the wiki entry on "Idol Backstage", an Australian television show, has disappeared entirely. But it doesn't even show up in the deletion log so I can't be sure what's happened. There's just no trace of it whatsoever. Any ideas what's going on...? Many thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tassieboy92 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

it was made into a WP:REDIRECT [2]. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 04:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be the work of User:Giggy which decided that the article did not have enough notability on it's own, and instead setup the redirect to the main show, Australian Idol. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Wisdom89 and Tiggerjay.

How did you find out who deleted the article, and when? And how do I appeal such a unilateral declaration of "non-notability"? It was an article about one of the biggest online shows in the world from the most popular television franchise in the world, Idol. There are many articles with less notable subjects than that!

If you could advise me how I go about trying to have the article reinstated, I'd appreciate it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.124.83 (talk) 08:53, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The best way would be to recreate it from the last version pre-redirect, but supplying references to prove its notability - see WP:N for details. -mattbuck (Talk) 08:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you go to the page Idol Backstage you will see that it bring you to Australian Idol and you will see (Redirected from Idol Backstage) at the top of the page. When you click on Idol Backstage you'll see a new, different page - this shows the redirect. From here you can click on the History tab at the top and see that User:Giggy made the note regarding (not independantly notable) and when you click on Compare Selected Versions you can see that he replaced the content with the redirect script. You can click on "Undo" to revert back to the older edit, but be sure to use an edit summary. Tiggerjay (talk) 16:33, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Box Art and Screenshots for Video Games

What is the rule about finding a picture of the box art and screenshots on the internet? Do I actually need to take the pictures and screenshots myself? Or can I use anything I find?

EX: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rise_of_Nations:_Thrones_and_Patriots, Box art upper-right, screenshots lower-left.

Thanks for any help, Nkot (talk) 06:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can generally take them from internet sources, as long as you attribute and add a fair use rationale. That being said, it's probably preferable for screenshots to be self-made. -mattbuck (Talk) 08:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What to do

In the recent changes I often see ip addresses changing dates or number facts in articles. What it the standard response to this. I haven't the time to check every one of those facts to make sure its correct. Is the typical thing to revert the edit unless they have given a reason for the change in the edit log? Rhodopsin drinker (talk) 09:49, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it depends. Sometimes, an IP deliberately introduces incorrect info (saying that the moon landing took place in 1869 instead of 1969). I'll revert those edits. Other info I'll look up before changing (correcting an athlete's height by an inch, something along those lines). I try to assume good faith, whether its an IP or registered user. I hope this helps. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 11:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can also post something on the talk page of the article to ask people who may know more about the subject if that is really true or not (and even if they don't know, it at least alerts them to it). -- Natalya 12:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki information pop-ups on other homepages

Hi

How do you add the feature that let you have "information Pop-ups" from wiki to your own site. (like the pop ups that come on some sites when you move your mouse over a specific name etc.) 170.140.120.21 (talk) 14:59, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm petty sure that those pop ups are made possible by third party software and/or services. For instance, I think http://www.snap.com actually advertises the ability have "Snap Shots" of Wikipedia content on personal/commercial blogs and/or sites using their software. You might also want to check out http://www.websnapr.com; they provide those kind of pop-ups as well. Keep in mind, however, that we're not endorsing or ensuring the quality of either of these sites; it's up to you to decide what third party product or service to use. GO-PCHS-NJROTC ^(Messages) 15:54, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, try asking over at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing since the Help desk is on how to use Wikipedia, and the people overa t Reference Desk can help you with how to do something with your computer (website). Tiggerjay (talk) 16:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You mean the navigation pop-ups? Add the following code to your monobook.js (or other appropriate js page for the skin you are using on that wiki). Note that it will not work on some wikis if the appropriate modules (or whatever they are called) are not installed. For example, it does not work on lostpedia.com:

// User:Lupin/popups.js

document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="'

+ '[index.php?title=User:Lupin/popups.js http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/popups.js]'

+ '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');

Reuse license on images

I want to upload a self made image to Wikipedia under the recommended license, but I want to reserve just a few "common sense" rights (I don't want my image to be used for any malicious purposes). I'm think I know how to do that (put the restriction with the description), but I just want to make sure I'm doig this right before I save it. GO-PCHS-NJROTC ^(Messages) 15:46, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't think that is permitted under the conditions of free use, also see WP:ICT Tiggerjay (talk) 16:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Is it possible to add a parameter for the background colour of the infobox? (Not the bar along the top, the entire infobox)Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 16:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you are creating you own infobox, then yes. If you are using an existing box, then it depends. What infobox is this? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:30, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 17:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See the section on "Optional CSS styling". You can use "bodystyle" to set parameters for the body of the box, for example: "|bodystyle = background:#ccf;". --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:37, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cooly thanks....Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:43, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wait hang on....where do I put that code?Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photo question

When is it appropriate to place a tag under a photo to give the author credit? E.g. When should there be a "Photo by John Doe" caption underneath the photo? I can't find the wikipedia guidelines on it. smooth0⁷0₇ (talk) 17:11, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Generally speaking, the attribution's put on the image description page, rather than on the page that uses the image. --ais523 18:13, 9 June 2008 (U T C)

query.php

it says I need that extension to install Lupin popups correctly.What extension is that? Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mw:Extension:BotQuery. --ais523 17:40, 9 June 2008 (U T C)

do you have an internal link?that link is blocked from me. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no, because it isn't documented on Wikipedia; the MediaWiki wiki is where the extensions are documented. However, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/query.php (which is query.php itself) prints out an informative error message if you visit it directly. --ais523 17:48, 9 June 2008 (U T C)

where can I find that code so I can put it in myu monobook.js? Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 17:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You don't. query.php is something on the server (which the Wikimedia server admins have already installed), not per-user. So you don't have to install it, if the script thinks something's wrong with it, most likely it's because your security settings that are blocking external links are also blocking query.php from working from your computer. --ais523 18:12, 9 June 2008 (U T C)

The extension needs to be installed on the wiki, not on your monobook - I think we're confused here, people answering this assumed you were running your own wiki and were trying to get popups to work there. It'll work fine here with just the popups code because the extension is already installed

but whenever I try to use lupin popups on pictures, it doesn't work.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 18:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For images I use User:Zocky's picture popups -- User:Zocky/PicturePopups.js – ukexpat (talk) 18:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zocky's doesn't work for Internet Explorer does it? Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 18:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not at the moment, but apparently Zocky is looking into it. – ukexpat (talk) 20:20, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Danger Guys Series - Notable?

Resolved

Someone has just created Danger Guys Series. I can't see any reason why its notable but its got several results on Google ([3]). WOuld someone mind looking at the article and marking it as non notable if appropriate. (Sorry if this isn;t the right place to ask this) Anonymous101 (talk) 18:03, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It definitely needs cleanup, but google turns up some good sources. I'd probably !vote keep at AfD. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 18:05, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as it stands, it does not appear to be notable, since there are no sources listed. However, if there are sources that can be added, feel free to jump in and list them. The best notability guide for books can be found here. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 18:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. I'll ry and add some references. Anonymous101 (talk) 19:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

toolserver problem

Am I the only one who gets an error message when I try this link? J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 18:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, S1 and S3 seem to be down, see what happens when you try this link:

"Due to technical problems, s1 is unavailable now"
"Due to technical problems, s3 is unavailable now"

So it is not only you. Woody (talk) 18:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I get

onoes!! some kind of database error occured ((2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'sql-s3' (111)"))... please try again later
Due to technical problems, s1 is unavailable now
Due to technical problems, s3 is unavailable now

...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 19:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like they're back online now, all links work using repeated attempt. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

image

im creating a page about my medical school fraternity and I would like to upload a picture that i found in our records in the attic. I scanned it and it belongs to me. It is our crest. What do i have to do to be able to upload this picture to our website? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boryanaj (talk • contribs) 19:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. First, I'm not sure if such an article would meet Wikipedia's notability criteria. But if you want to upload an image, just click "Upload file" in the toolbox below the search bar, and you will find instructions from there. Good luck, and if you have any more questions, just leave a message on my talk page. Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 19:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please clarify what you mean by "our website". If you mean Wikipedia, then you can follow the above instructions to upload the image (and see Help:Image for more - and be prepared for other editors to challenge and possibly delete the upload if it isn't notable enough to be on Wikipedia). If you mean some other site (such as a site run by your school or fraternity), then you can either ask the site's administrators, or give us the URL of the site and maybe one our resident geniuses can figure it out. --Teratornis (talk) 21:31, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It appears he is referring to Alpha kappa kappa‎ on Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 21:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Non-admin accounts can move pages over redirects??

A week or two ago, I standardized the article titles for "name (Playboy Playmate)" to "name (model)" since this is a more generic disambiguator and these women have usually done more modelling than just Playboy. Today, a non-admin (as far as I can tell) performed this edit moving the article back over a redirect. Was I wrong in thinking that non-admins could do this? What's going on here? Dismas|^(talk) 20:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a nonadmin may move a page over a redirect, if and only if the page to be moved over only has one revision in it. NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 20:44, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think what you mean is that it can be done if the redirect has only one revision. —teb728 t c 21:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As part of WP:BRD now would be a great time to discuss. There is nothing wrong with your BOLD edit, nor his REVERT, necessarily - simply discuss both of your rationales for your action. Tiggerjay (talk) 22:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 10

Huh

Resolved

– See m:SUL.

When I logged out, this

appeared. But haven't created any accounts (using the name NanohaA'sYuri) at any other wiki. What's that about? NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 00:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! That is defaulted onto everyone's log out screen I believe. Tabor (talk) 01:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this is part of the SUL (single unified login) project, which lets you create an account on every Wikimedia project. For more info about this, see m:SUL on the MetaWiki. macy^talk 02:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming an Article/Changing Articles Titles

I'm not exactly new, here, but I'm also not a huge editor beyond minor corrections. What I'd like to know is exactly how to change the title of an article/rename an article? I've been able to glean that it has something to do with redirects, but those confused me. What I'm looking to do is change the title of the Lansing Capital City Airport page to "Capital Regional International Airport" to reflect the airport's official and formal renaming. As opposed to someone simply doing this for me, I'd like to know how to do this, myself, in steps so that I will have learned something. --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At the top of the page click the move tab. In the To new title: field put the article title of your choice. Add a short comment as to why you moved the article and I generally move the talk page as well. (the box should already be checked) The page is now moved. You should fix the double redirects; but if you miss some a bot will get to it. For more information see meta:Help:Moving a page. Hope that helps! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 02:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes moving a page introduces additional complications. WP:EIW#Moving lists additional links you may want to at least be aware of. Skimming through them would be a good idea before you run into a problem. --Teratornis (talk) 06:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Posting articles

I have been editing many articles on wikipedia but I would like to create my own. How do I do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15rthughes (talk • contribs) 01:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. For a simple guide on creating articles, see this page. Cheers, Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Paragon12321 (talk) 02:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

how to

up load images and put it in my article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.124.96.150 (talk) 04:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You will need to login or create an account before being able to upload an image or create a new article. Tiggerjay (talk) 04:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) IP addresses cannot upload images. You have to create an account first and then follow the directions at WP:UPLOAD. Hope that helps. --RyRy5 (talk) 04:53, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template for edit-mode-only in dab pages

I'd like to create a template, that only appears in edit-mode, at the top of any page tagged with a disambig template. Much like the template that appears at the top of this page when adding a comment here. The template would contain 2 or 3 of the MOS:DAB frequent mistakes, like "Each bulleted entry should, in almost every case, have exactly one navigable (blue) link". I'm not sure how to go about building such a template. Thanks for any help. :) -- Quiddity (talk) 05:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The key is HTML-style comment tags: . Text placed between these tags will not be displayed while viewing a page, but will be visible while editing it. For example:

''blah blah blah <!-- This is a comment --> kitty cat''

Produces: blah blah blah kitty cat

The comment can be long, short, on its own line or mixed in with other text, and so forth. The key is that any such template will need to be substed to be effective. See {{NoMoreLinks}} for a working example, if you like. – Luna Santin (talk) 05:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping to have the template-message at the top of every disambig page by default, without having to make 100,000 odd edits, or add more code-cruft... ;) -- Quiddity (talk) 07:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The feature you refer to in adding a comment is not a template, because the text appears above the edit window rather than in it. It is closer to dynamically changing the user interface of MediaWiki, but not by the usual method of editing a page in the MediaWiki: namespace. See: Wikipedia talk:Help desk/Archive 5#Bug 5175 has been fixed; the Help Desk could do with an editintro. I don't know whether you can get that exact effect to appear when a user merely edits a page. For example, when we edit the Help desk by clicking a section-edit link to answer a question, the editintro argument page (Wikipedia:Help_Desk/editintro) does not appear above the edit window. See mw:Extension:Inputbox to see how that works. I don't know if there is a way to trigger the editintro feature from the standard Wikipedia edit links on an existing article, but ten minutes ago I wasn't even aware of the editintro feature, so who knows. --Teratornis (talk) 06:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes, I should've clarified that I understand the same hack can't be used for my request. ;)

I wasn't sure whether to ask this here, or at WP:VPT. If it's an esoteric plan, I'll take it there!

I guess MediaWiki:Talkpagetext is a better example, too. -- Quiddity (talk) 07:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The way that redirects only show their {{r from...}} template in edit mode is another route.

I've asked at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Template for edit-mode-only in dab pages. Thanks again. -- Quiddity (talk) 21:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

blacklisted?

I have been a contributor before and found a short piece on lox. Just wrote an article about how to home-cure salmon and tried to add it as a reference. Received a "blacklist" smack-down.

Why?

Thanks, Jacqueline Church —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacquelinec (talk • contribs) 05:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page you tried to cite was on the Mediawiki:Spam-blacklist, I think. On a side-note, you're not supposed to cite stuff you wrote yourself... it's part of WP:Reliable sources. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 05:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How can I create a link to a section of another article?

Basically I wish to create a link in one article to the character profile Tim Nice-But-Dim in the article Harry Enfield's Television Programme. Could somebody please advise me as to how I might do this. Many thanks. Jamesmh2006 (talk) 05:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You use Article name#Section title. For example, to link to this discussion, you would use Wikipedia:Help desk#How can I create a link to a section of another article?. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 06:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But what your pointing out is impossible. You can only link to what Conman said is only possible if it is a section, no matter level, and nothing else. In the article you showed us, it is bold faced so it cannot be done. --RyRy5 (talk) 06:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Section heading create an HTML anchor, which is what you actually link to. You can create your own anchor using the template named... {{anchor}}. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 07:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cookies are n, you woon't accept tham.

I am trying to create an account and or trying to log in and it says cookis are needed, yours are turned off. I have checked my settings-cookies are enabled and I have several in it; wh won't your rogram acceppt that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.166.159.204 (talk) 06:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

These kinds of problems depend on the specific Web browser you are using. You will need to tell us what browser you are using. Or you can read through the links under WP:EIW#Browser such as Wikipedia:Browser notes and m:Browser issues with MediaWiki. Another possibility is to search the Help desk archive for: cookie - quite a few cookie-related questions have appeared before. --Teratornis (talk) 07:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shredding

Does wikipedia would "SHRED" data whatever articles, images, discussions, and any other? SHRED and similar mean permanently erases from wikimedia servers and UNABLE to recover or undelete by anyone even through sysops, stewards, and oversighters.

What's sistation to being shred.140.128.151.245 (talk) 06:35, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your question is difficult to read in places (what is "sistation"?), and I don't know the answer, but if the answer to your question is in writing somewhere, it is probably in one of the pages under WP:EIW#AfD-etc. Note that sites outside Wikipedia can mirror or archive Wikipedia's content, so even if someone could utterly obliterate an item from Wikipedia, copies could still exist elsewhere. For example, see the interesting Deletionpedia. Wikipedia handles text and images differently; see Help:Image#Revision history of pages containing images and Help:Page history#Image history. It looks like deleted images are totally gone from Wikipedia (although copies could still exist on mirror sites). --Teratornis (talk) 07:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, images are deleted (presumably to save space), but I don't believe text ever is. Even oversighted edits are visible to oversights. The devs could directly delete text from the database, of course, but I don't think they have ever done so. Algebraist 08:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I thought that Wikipedia has to maintain text (or at least history records) under the GDFL. Possibly I am thinking of something else? TN‑X-Man 11:48, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is correct, but some types of edits (eg copyvio and libel) are removed completely from the view of users, including in the page history. SpinningSpark 13:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By my reading of the GFDL, deletion of individual revisions and oversight both violate it. If only we were using a licence actually designed for Wikipedia... Algebraist 13:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aren't deleted articles permanently deleted sometimes? I thought I read somewhere that there were. Harland1 (^t/_c) 13:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you are thinking of Wikipedia:Revision hiding. --Teratornis (talk) 21:40, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My mean is erasing from wikipedia servers, not just hiding from public view and will not have any possible to restore it, like file shardding softwares on local computer.

If not, wikipedia will be like store-house consciousness, a place to preserve anything permanently.219.68.144.162 (talk) 13:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

railway platform

what do we say for railway platform in hindi and sanskrit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.224.113.90 (talk) 06:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On the Help desk, we would say you have to ask this question on the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language. It's unlikely that any Help desk volunteers who happen to be reading just now speak Hindi or Sanskrit, but I suppose someone will prove me wrong now. --Teratornis (talk) 06:56, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Downloading Flickr images

There is something odd about this and this image because I can not download them. I want to use the former as the main image at Exelon Pavilions and the latter as a supporting image at McDonald's Cycle Center. They are only downloading as a 1x1px gif for me.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:25, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The images are actually here and here. However, they're both fully compyrighted, and not fair use, so they shouldn't be on Wikipedia unless you can persuade the owner to release them under a free licence. Algebraist 07:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

btw, that's a feature of Flickr. They're trying to make it harder to download images the owner doesn't want downloaded. Algebraist 08:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have been talking to the author about using the Exelon Pavilion one and he has asked me what he needs to do. I told him to change the license on flickr and he did. I don't know why they aren't changed where you are pointing me to, but I am going to copy those to commons and point to the flickr pages above as the source.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The images got deleted from commons I see. I thought I would get seven days to work it out before they got deleted. The guy has flickr mailed me and I think he is going to change the images. The articles are going to be on the main page of WP by the weekend in the DYK process and I wanted the images to be see. I guess if he was yanking my chain maybe I should have waited.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I finally have gotten the images properly licensed with the enticement of a DYK main page appearance.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi Translation

Hindi Translation has been withdrawn. I request you to kindly retore the same

Vikram Malhotra —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.144.62.130 (talk) 11:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Was this a translation in an article? Or or a link to the Hindi wikipedia in an article? Sorry not to be of more help. Harland1 (^t/_c) 12:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly he means he is withdrawing his question about railway platforms above. SpinningSpark 13:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly but it is a different IP. Harland1 (^t/_c) 13:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Plagerism

With this article. Call it a hunch. Can someone check this out? I don't have access to the internet (outside of Wikipedia) at the moment. --Endless Dan 12:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a little suspicius it was added all here by an anon. But I've done a google on bits of it and nothing but wikipedia comes up. It could however be from a book. Harland1 (^t/_c) 12:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm gonna knock it out as it doesn't sit well with me considering this contributor's previous contributions. --Endless Dan 12:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

man made disaster

what is road-accident? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.145.131.216 (talk) 13:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The answer you're looking for may be here. Please note that the Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 13:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Next time you have a question like this try the Wikipedia:Reference desk which specialises in knowledge questions and can answer almost anything except how to use Wikipedia which is what this desk is for. SpinningSpark 13:11, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Linking to Wikipedia in a frame

I am building a web site in which a link to a Wikipedia article will be provided alongside other links on the same topic, and the linked-to page will appear in an IFrame. Yes, I know all the reasons people say not to use frames; this is for a specific atypical use case.

The issue I'm running into is that when a Wikipedia page is viewed in an IFrame, the mouse wheel does not scroll it. What's more, the arrow keys won't scroll it either. Clicking inside the IFrame doesn't help.

I'm not having this problem with any other site. It's just Wikipedia.

Any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaleb70 (talk • contribs) 13:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The best place to ask a question like this would be at the reference desks. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 15:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little confused as to how this is a reference desk question. It's a question about using Wikipedia. It's Wikipedia that's not functioning properly when it appears in a frame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaleb70 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please, just don't do it. The Foundation is apt to block your site from doing it anyway: Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks#Remote loading. If you want to serve a Wikipedia article, then make a local copy of it, including appropriate references to the article history and the GFDL. Wikipedia's servers suffer enough delivering content for this site; they're not meant to be used to serve content inside anyone else's site. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification: I am *not* remote-loading. I am linking. You click a link and it takes you to the page. The link simply has a target attribute directing it to a particular frame. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaleb70 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, and there are lots of ways to use Wikipedia. However, the volunteers who monitor the Help desk can only answer questions about the ways to use Wikipedia they happen to know something about. If none of the Help desk volunteers who are paying attention just now know anything about the way you want to use Wikipedia, then you won't get a useful answer here. Thus the good faith way to interpret Mr. Green's advice would be as his belief about where you might be more likely to get an answer. Asking about IFrames on Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing or possibly Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) would expose your question to more users who focus on technical issues. And please read How To Ask Questions The Smart Way. In particular, you are asking about your step, but not your goal. If you clearly explain why you want to display Wikipedia articles in an IFrame, someone might suggest an alternative method that solves or avoids the problem you are having. --Teratornis (talk) 18:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tag image for speedy delete

Resolved

– Image deleted. --TN‑X-Man 15:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I am wanting to tag an image for speedy delete, but after reading through the procedures on how to do so, I'm extremely confused. I'm supposed to add such-and-such tag to the image page, but only if it's been tagged with some other tag for a minimum of X number of days, and honestly my brain is about to explode. The image is a copyrighted work tagged under fair use. There are four reasons I believe it qualifies for speedy deletion. 1) It is orphaned. 2) It has no fair-use rational. 3) It's tagged with the wrong license template. 4) It's 900px wide. I'm stuck - what do I do? The image in question is here. Thanks for your help! --hamu♥hamu (talk) 15:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've been rouge and deleted it. Non-free images that are unused qualify for speedy deletion. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 15:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Peter. My brain can stop swimming now. :) --hamu♥hamu (talk) 15:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SUL

When accounts are merged how are they automatically created, exactly? (Since usernames are just reserved... the accounts aren't actually created until at least you logon... but, sometimes it seems accounts are created without even logging in intentionally... so, how exactly?) 212.219.0.19 (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They're created when you view one wiki when logged onto another, or when you log onto a wiki you've never previously visited with a username that exists on another wiki, as long as that username has been created as a global account. --ais523 16:23, 10 June 2008 (U T C)

So I practically should try to avoid going on other wikis (like wikis with languages I don't know) if I don't want an account on them? Should I delete those already created? (Through stewards?) Or... should I strive to create accounts on all wikis? O_o 212.219.0.19 (talk) 16:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A global account theoretically extends to all wikis anyway; the autocreation is just how it's implemented, and works effectively the same way as if all the accounts were created at the time you merged your accounts. An autocreated account that you never use isn't a problem; exactly the same things will happen whether it was created or not, if you never use it. Deliberately autocreating accounts which you don't plan to use is a little pointless, though. --ais523 16:41, 10 June 2008 (U T C)

I understand. Thanks! 212.219.0.19 (talk) 16:44, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See m:Help:Unified login and m:Single signon transition. --Teratornis (talk) 17:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do you create branches in the Route Diagram Template for Railways?

I am currently making a map of a underground line, but it has a branch off. I don't know how to do these in HTML form. Please help me! A1personage (talk) 17:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't what i was after!!!!!!! How do you put branches off in railway diagrams? A1personage (talk) 17:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK first, a little civility is in order. Second, it is not clear what you are referring to. Is this in relation to an image or article already on WP? If so, please provide the name of the page. If it is a general, non-WP related, question, try the reference desk. – ukexpat (talk) 17:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Geof Sheppard may be able to help you - I would recommend asking him. DuncanHill (talk) 17:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey calm, down. That was just someone else asking a new question without putting in a heading. The maps in the articles you seem to be editing are in SVG format (scaled vector graphics). You need to get an SVG editor. You can get one FREE from Inkscape here[4]. While it is theoretically possible to edit SVG files with a text editor, don't bother to try unless you are a real expert. SpinningSpark 17:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! A1personage (talk) 17:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Traffic stats

Hi, is it possible to obtain Wikipedia traffic stats on the daily basis for 2001-2003 the way they are presented in the following page: [5] ? I need it for an estimation of traffic growth rate for my university project. I would really appreciate! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.30.160 (talk) 17:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I doubt it's availiable. There is Wikipedia:Traffic, but that's out of date, and there's WP:AWARE, but that doesn't give you as much detail. You might like to try [6] - this might give you a little more info. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 17:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wait Time After Submitting Article Request

How long does it take for an article to be created once it has been submitted to the 'Request Article' page?

Loomstate (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever a helper gets around to reviewing it. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 17:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How long is a piece of string? There is no guarantee that the article will ever be created. It waits until an editor comes along who happens to find that subject interesting. It is only meant to give suggestions to editors, we are all volunteers so there is no compunction on us to write a particular article. SpinningSpark 17:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See the links under WP:EIW#Missing, for example: Wikipedia:Articles requested for more than a year. (One common limiting factor is the lack of reliable sources on which to base a new article.) Writing new articles on Wikipedia is easy, but making them stick can be much harder. A new article must comply with Wikipedia's complex and generally unintuitive policies and guidelines, or else someone will delete it. Put simply, there are a lot more people who might notice the lack of an article than there are people who know enough about Wikipedia to create those articles and make them stick. People who know a lot about Wikipedia usually know that Wikipedia has lots of existing articles that need cleaning up. Given that Wikipedia has 6,822,926 articles already, and the vast majority are below featured quality, editors who care primarily about Wikipedia (as opposed to caring primarily about some particular subject) will tend to focus on improving the enormous backlog of substandard articles, before adding to the backlog by creating yet more articles that need work. --Teratornis (talk) 17:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now that was really disingenuous Loomstate. You failed to tell us that that page has been deleted as spam and you have been warned three times for vandalistically recreating it. I have deleted your request from the Requested Articles list on the grounds that this is further spamming. SpinningSpark 17:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I left an extended unBITEy message on the user talk page, pointing them to our relevant policies and guidelines. —teb728 t c 21:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Contributors

Hello,

I was wondering how and where I can find your biggest contributors. I don't see where the author's name is on articles, and would greatly appreciate any help regarding the sites most important authors in the academic and knowledge sharing sphere.

Thanks so much,

Noah Simon —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.205.133.76 (talk) 18:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't know about "most important" authors, as that is very subjective. I can tell you that this page lists editors by number of edits. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 18:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, just because a user has so many edits, doesn't mean they are "important". Everyone is equal here at Wikipedia. --RyRy5 (talk) 18:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you would like help on something this is a great place to ask for it.I can help you if it has anything to do with your userpage or an article.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 18:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, I kind of doubt that the IP would be having trouble with his/her user page because, well, IPs don't have one. :( But if it's an article, sure, we can all help. --RyRy5 (talk) 18:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point....Actually I can't help I have to get of in 2 seconds but I will tommarow.That goes for anybody on this Help Page....YEA!!!!Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}About Me 18:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While it has already been said that the top contributor has very little relevace to the knowledge of a particular editor on an article, there are various tools such as: this one which can display the top editors for an wikipedia article. Tiggerjay (talk) 19:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a new Wikipedia page

How do I create a new wikipedia page with new information on a topic? Marlouis1 (talk) 19:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This guide is really helpful in terms of getting started. It lists a lot of info to aid with getting an article off the ground. Good luck! TN‑X-Man 19:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You sound like some of my old socks (sorry!). Check WP:FIRST. StewieGriffin! • Talk Sign 20:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:23, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

watchlist-compatible rollback?

Hi. Is there a way to make rollback Watchlist-compatible that works with IE? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 20:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you asking for way to list the "rollback" option on your watchlist? TN‑X-Man 21:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If that is what your asking, rollback does not appears on IE nor Firefox. Tiggerjay (talk) 03:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphical timelines problem

Hello,

When I tried to insert this specific graphical timeline, the timeline would not show up under specific text values:

| NAseats = <timeline> ImageSize = width:100 height:25 PlotArea = left:0 bottom:0 top:0 right:0 TimeAxis = orientation:horizontal format:yyyy DateFormat = x.y Period = from:0 till:577 TimeAxis = orientation:horizontal AlignBars = early Colors = id:gray value:rgb(0.85,0.85,0.85) id:darkgray value:rgb(0.27,0.27,0.27) id:midgray value:rgb(0.57,0.57,0.57) id:blue value:rgb(0.07, 0.44, 0.76) id:green value:rgb(0.38, 0.73, 0.27) id:orange value:rgb(1, 0.55, 0) id:red value:rgb(0.80,0, 0) BarData = bar:Wikipedias PlotData= bar:Wikipedias from:0 till:577 color:gray width:0.2in text:/577 bar:Wikipedias from:0 till:313 color:blue width:0.2in text:312 </timeline>

| NAseats =

If you enter both values to be till:313 and text:313, the timeline doesn't show up. If you enter till:313 and text:312, it will show up. If you put both as 312, it won't work, and neither will till:312 and text:313.

Like this:

| NAseats = <timeline> ImageSize = width:100 height:25 PlotArea = left:0 bottom:0 top:0 right:0 TimeAxis = orientation:horizontal format:yyyy DateFormat = x.y Period = from:0 till:577 TimeAxis = orientation:horizontal AlignBars = early Colors = id:gray value:rgb(0.85,0.85,0.85) id:darkgray value:rgb(0.27,0.27,0.27) id:midgray value:rgb(0.57,0.57,0.57) id:blue value:rgb(0.07, 0.44, 0.76) id:green value:rgb(0.38, 0.73, 0.27) id:orange value:rgb(1, 0.55, 0) id:red value:rgb(0.80,0, 0) BarData = bar:Wikipedias PlotData= bar:Wikipedias from:0 till:577 color:gray width:0.2in text:/577 bar:Wikipedias from:0 till:313 color:blue width:0.2in text:313 </timeline>

The template is used on this page Union for a Popular Movement, and the same problem doesn't come up on the two other timelines (SEN and EP) used there.

I desperately need help on this. could someone answer me or direct me somewhere to fix it? i really need help and want to fix it fast. thanks and i hope i get a speedy answer :)

--Petrovic-Njegos (talk) 21:52, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Contributions/Edits

Resolved

– Number of edits found. --TN‑X-Man 22:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if there was a way to know exactly how many edits one has made on wikipedia. I se them mentioned in RFA pages, but I wondered if I could find how many I had made, or if it was a special Admin tool for special occasions. Many thanks, Skinny87 (talk) 22:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can use this tool or just click on "my preferences". The difference between the two is that you preferences also includes deleted edits. Pedro : Chat 22:02, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh hey, thanks for that. Gosh, 1277. Seems so low when I feel like I've been so busy :) Skinny87 (talk) 22:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

block

How can I block a site like this [[7]]? Thnx. Kawe2620 (talk) 22:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "block" exactly? Did you want the article removed, for example? Pedro : Chat 22:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(Edit conflict) I'm not sure what you mean by "block" the site. If you mean block it on Wikipedia, you could nominate the article for deletion, but I don't think it would pass. If you mean block it on your computer, you may want check at the reference desk, as they help with computer/ browser questions. TN‑X-Man 22:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think he meant page protection. Please request it through Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I mean that nobody can edit the page. Kawe2620 (talk) 22:16, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then PeterSymonds has the right idea: WP:Requests for page protection. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 22:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, I'm just good. ;) But seriously, Kawe, you have to understand a few things about page locking (called protection) first. Wikipedia:Protection policy is a good place to start. There are two types of protection: "full" protection, which locks the page for everyone who isn't an administrator. Then there's semi-protection, which locks the page for everyone who is either not logged in, or who has not had an account for four days and made 10 edits (autoconfirmed). The page is locked in few circumstances, the most common one being semi-protection against IP-vandalism. Please read the protection policy link above for all the reasons. Only administrators can protect pages, and therefore the request must be made at the requests page. Feel free to ask here or on my talk page if you need any assistance. Thanks! PeterSymonds (talk) 22:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changing Signature

How do I add colours to my signature? Tabor (talk) 23:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Taborlechner. This page might be of some help. Jamie^☆S93 23:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Tabor (talk) 00:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do I just use HTML to change the colours? Tabor 00:06, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Well first go to "my preferences" the add something like this which will produce this. Regarding the colour, you can use basic colour asignments like "black" "blue" or more varied colour assignments like hex "FFFFFF" "FF33FF". here is a link to a hex colour chart [8]. So this is another example, this time using hex code:Tabor. The required code.Tabor --Kero tan-^{Have a nice day :)} 00:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As a web developer in the making, I would recommend avoiding the deprecated tag. A preferable alternative would be using span tags (using span tags), where you would replace the hex code "FF33FF" with the color of your choice. Kal ^(talk) 00:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Normally, I would agree with using CSS, but you only get 255 characters for the signature- HTML can be more compact. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 01:43, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

is deprecated Antonio Lopez ^(talk) 01:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 11

S. Scott Bullock

For some reason, someone keeps removing the birthday from the article S. Scott Bullock. Whenever I go to look it up, his birthday is not listed. Then I put it back up there, and then, a random amount of days later, it's gone. I'm beginning to feel like Template:Pp-semi-vandalism should be put on the article, because it's making me suspect that a vandal (or more than one of them) may be behind this. I found out in the history that one of the vandals is 76.172.223.174, who should've been warned since last month for removing text without an explanation! Any kind of admin help would be appreciated. Thank you. Kitty53 (talk) 00:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. From the history, I doubt it's vandalism per se. It's been removed twice by similar IP addresses, perhaps the same person each time - although I'd be interested to know whether the other information added in the same session by the first IP is accurate. However (a) is there a reliable source for the birthday? IMDB isn't generally regarded as reliable. (b) Are we in Wikipedia:BLP#Privacy of personal information territory here? Is the birthdate, as opposed to the birthyear, necessary? (c) the template by itself does nothing. What counts is whether an administrator has actually protected the page. On the current history, I wouldn't semi-protect it (which stops IP edits, not established editors). Bencherlite ^Talk 00:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. When the editors removed the B-Day, did they provide an explanation? Nooooooooooooooooo! Removing text and not providing an explanation is considered vandalism, which they should have been warned about.Kitty53 (talk) 00:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a very strong statement there, Kitty53, and one that is not supported by WP:AGF.... or WP:VAND for that matter. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 00:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let's go back to the WP:RS issue regarding the birthdate; Kitty can you provide a reliable source for this date? Tiggerjay (talk) 03:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let's back up even further. I would definitely say that Mr. Bullock is not particularly famous. As such, we should be very careful about publishing his birthdate for privacy concerns. In fact, birthdates are specifically called out in WP:BLP#Presumption in favor of privacy. The IP editor both times only edited this article and only to do the same action (remove the birthdate). I can not ignore the fact that this pattern suggests we are gearing up for a WP:DOLT scenario where those IPs are, in fact, S. Scott Bullock himself removing his own birthdate. I, of course, can't prove that. I only have an editting pattern which supports this conclusion. So, it comes to a balance of needs here -- Is providing this information weighed more than the privacy concerns laid out in WP:BLP? Without evidence that this information is already widespread (outside of IMDb), I have to lean in favor of privacy for this living person. As such, I'm removing the birthdate myself until multiple reliable sources showing this information is already widespread, per WP:BLP. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 03:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unusual text

What has happened to the contents box in Euthanasia and the Law? To me, it looks like:

เนื้อหา [ซ่อน]

Did a template malfunction, or my browser? 129.215.49.243 (talk) 01:08, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try clearing your cache, because it looks just fine for me.--Kero tan-^{Have a nice day :)} 01:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed I just fixed it [9]. It looks like the Thai-language refrence inside the {{quote}} template caused MediaWiki to think that the page was on the Thai Wikipedia. That's just bizarre. When I moved the reference outside of the quote, everything went back to normal -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 01:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit not appearing

Resolved

– Spam link removed. --TN‑X-Man 01:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi folks - I only occasionally edit, so please forgive me if I've missed something obvious, but I just tweaked the Chopsticks article to remove a commercial link, and while my edit shows up in the revision history, the main page doesn't show it. What did I do wrong? TIA. Herichon (talk) 01:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try clearing your browsers cache, because Its not appearing for me.--Kero tan-^{Have a nice day :)} 01:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weird, I had refreshed the page and it was still there for a while, but I agree, now it appears to be gone. Oh well. Thanks for checking. Herichon (talk) 01:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes just hitting refresh won't do the job. Try bypassing your cache next time it happens. The link I gave has instructions on how to do that. Raven4x4x (talk) 06:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not filter JCN and KICS email as spam

Dear Server Manager of shahed university

We publish International Journal JCN and we have overseas editors and reviewers. However, we recently cannot communicate well with the authors, editors or reviewers in shahed university by email and have problems with review process of our journal.

Therefore, I'm writing to ask you to check whether JCN emails are filtered as spam or not. If so, please remove JCN IP or domain immediately from your spam list so that shahed university members can receive JCN emails correctly since the mutual communication among memebers is very inportant.

The detailed information of JCN email is as below. JCN IP: 211.116.129.40 JCN Domain: @jcn.or.kr / @kics.or.kr/ www.e-society.or.kr

Please contact me if you need further information. Your cooperation will be highly appreciated.

Thank you.

Best regards, Yumin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.148.77.8 (talk) 06:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Er... does this question have to do with Wikipedia? – Luna Santin (talk) 06:38, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Dear Server Manager of shahed university". Apparently not. --grawity 12:33, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please Help Me.

Somebody has chosen to omit data from the definition of "Bear Magazine" repeatedly.

My magazine, 100% BEEF, is the publishing heir to Bear Magazine, which unceremoniously disappeared in 2002. The former staff, plus contributing writers, photographers and artists who created Bear Magazine now contribute regularly to my magazine, 100% BEEF, now entering our 7th year of publishing. When Bear Magazine disappeared, 100% BEEF continued the publishing legacy, and became "the" community magazine for Bears and like-minded men. Now, a new publisher who, through legal wrangling, has acquired a copyright for the "Bear Magazine" name, has chosen to edit and omit references to my publication in the "Bear Magazine" definition; references which have been part of that Wikipedia Definition for a long time, now. This individual keeps editing the content to that end, even though 100% BEEF Magazine's information has been part of the Bear Magazine Wikipedia definition for years now. And, when I re-edit the page for accuracy, they report me for "Vandalism". I have not vandalized any Wikipedia Pages and I have not deleted any of their information; they have. Please help me. Thank You. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rustyspot (talk • contribs) 07:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rustyspot, and welcome to Wikipedia! I've looked at your edit here which was called vandalism, and it looks like you're trying to add categories to the page. The correct syntax to use is:

[[Category:Human sexuality]]

[[Category:LGBT argot]]

...

with each category in a new set of square brackets. You had the syntax slightly wrong, but you're correct that that wasn't vandalism (a mistake made in good faith is never vandalism). I've let the user who warned you know on his talk page that I think he was being overzealous.

As for the content of the article itself, you might want to take a look at the policy Wikipedia:Verifiability, which explains what Wikipedia articles need to do to establish the veracity of their content: if an article contains reliable, third-party sources it'll be much less likely to have its content removed. At present neither version of the article contains sources so it's impossible for another editor to tell which if either is correct.

Finally, you should also read our policy on conflicts of interest. We discourage people from editing articles about themselves, their companies, or other things closely related to them in the interest of openness and neutrality. Perhaps you would be best off finding a third editor and suggesting the changes to them, or doing so on the article's talk page, rather than doing it yourself. Wikipedia:Third opinion is one place you might be able to get a neutral editor to take part.

I hope all of that helps. If you have any more questions you can contact me on my talk page, or ask again here. Happy editing! Olaf Davis | Talk 10:24, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

writing new article

I am trying very hard toget to grips with writing a new article, which is valid and no other article exists with the title. I have opened my user page and have also opened what I think is a sub page which has the working title /marchmont in brown just below the heading of my user page. I have tried to type the article into here where I understand it cannot be editted by anyone else until I press save at which point it is launched into shared Wikipedia space. Can I not just copy/paste the document into this sub page space and then start formatting adding photos, references, links etc? I tried this and then it disappeared, why was this and why is it so hard to find an area in my user page where I can work on an article for a few days on my own? I am determined to crack this but find the whole writing a new artice un-user friendly. I would be grateful for some basic help. Thanks. Mark J Richards (talk) 10:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a Sandbox page for you (User:Mark J Richards/Sandbox) that you can use to develop an article. I'm glad you're interested in writing articles, this guide has a lot of useful tips. You can caopy and paste the article you're writing into the sandbox, at which point you can click save, and it will be there to edit and update. Or you can just start the article from scratch in your sandbox. Just remember to hit save to save your progress. Feel free to ask questions too. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 11:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can keep track of your subpages by placing a section on your user page like the section I have:

User:Teratornis#Subpages

That is, on your user page: User:Mark J Richards, you can have this wikitext somewhere:

==Subpages ==

These are my [[Wikipedia:User page#What about user subpages?|user subpages]]. 

*[{{fullurl:Special:Prefixindex|namespace=2}}&from={{PAGENAMEE}} See all my user subpages] and [{{fullurl:Special:Prefixindex|namespace=3}}&from={{PAGENAMEE}} all their talk pages]

=== Sandboxes ===

These are pages for my test edits.

*[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Sandbox]]

To make this simple, I'm adding this to your user subpage for you. If you don't like it, you can remove it. The sense of "unfriendly" you get from Wikipedia is actually from the complexity of the process by which 47,387,941 registered users (and many more unregistereds) built an encyclopedia of 6,822,926 articles. With that many participants and topics, getting them all to work together productively cannot be simple. Wikipedia requires highly complex policies, guidelines, and procedures to organize everyone to work well together - if we just let everyone do whatever, the result would be utter chaos. Wikipedia is unlike anything most people have experienced - after all, most people don't have any experience with organizing 47,387,941 strangers from all over the world to work together with virtually no face-to-face contact or spoken communication. Learning to edit on Wikipedia means learning an incredible number of details, many of them new. This tends to overwhelm the short term memory of the new user, creating the sense of anxiety and distress you feel just now. However, Wikipedia is amazingly friendly in the sense of having all its instructions in writing. In most large organizations, much of what a member needs to know exists only in a kind of oral tradition, which people have to pick up inefficiently through socializing face to face, getting experienced people to explain it all to them, and by a clumsy process of trial and error learning. On Wikipedia, we can't use the lazy method of speaking; our only tool is writing. Written instructions are actually friendlier than unwritten instructions, because writing is more definite. A person can write something once, and then we use computers to repeat it to anyone who needs it. All those people who wrote all those instructions spent thousands of hours being friendly - in a kind of abstract, disconnected way - to all those other people who will read those instructions in the future. To see the scale of this friendliness, peruse the Editor's index to Wikipedia.

I might mention that you seem to have chosen the hardest way to learn Wikipedia - going straight to creating a new article without first learning the ropes by editing existing articles. This is like jumping into combat without first going through boot camp. The urge to create an entirely new article from scratch is a common motivation for people to learn how to edit on Wikipedia, but unfortunately a complete article involves an incredible amount of know-how. It's easier to work with the collaborative editing model of Wikipedia by making small edits to existing articles, thereby learning one thing at a time. But if you want to do it the hard way (and why not, that's pretty much what I did too), see WP:LAYOUT, WP:LEAD, WP:ARTICLE, WP:CITE, WP:FOOT, and WP:CITET for just a little warmup. And keep Help:Editing and WP:CHEAT handy. Oh yeah, and be prepared for other users to mercilessly edit all your contributions, or even delete them outright if you unknowingly violate some rule you haven't read about yet. --Teratornis (talk) 17:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

columned tables

I am considering creating a columed list, much how a multiplication table looks/short of spreadshetish, but with all words contained within inline and outlined boxes. however I have no idea how to go about starting this, is there a tutorial you could direct me too or a ready made template that i could use, and just & fill in the gaps? i want several boxes each with thier own main heading, consiting of columns with headings, and various numbers of rows to correspond with each column . To form easily read grids of information, and easy to edit. Bloodkith (talk) 13:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Help:Table. I am posting below a multiplication table for your to look at in edit mode. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Multiplication table
×	1	2	3
1	1	2	3
2	2	4	6
3	3	6	9
4	4	8	12
5	5	10	15

Where do you want to put this table? If you intend it for an article, there may be some Manual of style guideline you need to comply with. --Teratornis (talk) 19:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

how to contact OTRS email system

I have an issue with an article that is biased and not susceptible to negotiation, so I'd like an editor to pay attention to it. From what I've read, I'm supposed to use the OTRS email system in a case like this, but Ican't find instructions on how to do so (I am barely literate re computers). Can anyone clue me in please? thanks - MtnWolfLadyMtnWolfLady (talk) 14:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To which article were you referring? I couldn't see any articles in your recent contributions that have dispute issues. More info on OTRS can be found here, but hopefully we can help you out on this page. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 14:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the user means how to get in contact with OTRS - you just need to send an email to info-en@wikimedia.org. Stwalkerster [ sock:talk ] 14:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stwalkersock (talk • contribs) [reply]

Template:Infobox Museum Image caption

I am unable to caption the infobox image within {{Infobox Museum}} at Boeing Galleries.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the code and documentation for the template, it does not support an image caption. Discuss it on the talk page and see if there is consensus to add it. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

printing

An article in Indopedia will not print. "Hanilgalbat" will only print the first page the rest come out just with a header. I have tried highlighting it all, after the 'printable version' only printed the first page, right clicking - nothing works Suggestions?? thing u —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.181.108.90 (talk) 15:48, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is Wikipedia, your question refers to Indopedia, direct your question there...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 16:56, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changing a page's title

Hi.

I've just created my first Wikipedia page ("Professor sa'ad medhat") and have manged to lower case the name in the title.

How can I edit the title to capitalise the first letters of the name?

Thanks, Weottelescope (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)Dan[reply]

If you look at the top of the article, one of the tabs should say "move". This tab allows you to move the entire article to a new title, assuming it's not already in use. You should be able to move the article to "Professor Sa'ad Medhat". Give it a shot and let me know if it works. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 17:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and moved the page to Professor Sa'ad Medhat. I believe that IPs and very new users cannot move articles. Be weary that articles require notability, and thus might be deleted. See if you can find some references which show that he is notable. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 17:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, guys. I really appreciate all that. Many, many thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weottelescope (talk • contribs) 17:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Completely a vanity page. In fact, it might be the guy's resume. Tan | 39 17:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated this one for speedy deletion per G11, as blatant advertising for the subject and his foundation. – ukexpat (talk) 17:45, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Using "Commons" Files to Edit Wikipedia Article

Hello,

I uploaded a picture to Wikipedia Commons called . How do I removed the outdated picture on Ira "Bill" McCollum's wikipedia page, and add this new one?Flegal (talk) 17:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's no such image on the commons. But to link to a commons image, just use the same syntax as a standard en.wp image - commons images are common to all wikimedia projects. -mattbuck (Talk) 17:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Help:Images and other uploaded files - the name is Wikimedia Commons rather than "Wikipedia Commons". Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia Foundation projects have so many similar-sounding terms that we have to be careful to use terms correctly - being off by even one letter can lead to misunderstandings sometimes. I know it sounds like hairsplitting, but hairsplitting is how we keep 47,387,941 registered users working together more or less coherently. You can make your questions easier to answer if you link to any article you mention. Otherwise, help desk volunteers have to search for it. (I hope it would be obvious, but for some reason it often doesn't seem to be obvious, that for someone to help a questioner with a problem, that someone would need to look at whatever Web page the questioner was looking at when the problem came up.) Are you talking about the article: Bill McCollum? If so, the link to the image at the top of the article is inside the code for the {{Infobox Politician}} template. That's up in the lead section of the article, so to edit it, you would click the "edit this page" tab at the top. The code in question looks like this (and if you are new here, this is probably somewhat scary):

{{Infobox Politician
| name          = Bill McCollum
| image         = Bill McCollum 106th Congress.jpg
| width         = 200px
| height        = 
| caption       = 
...

You would change at least the image parameter value. For more about these kinds of templates, see Help:Template and Help:Infobox - you shouldn't have to learn all that stuff now just to edit the image parameter value, but the farther you get with Wikipedia editing, the more instructions you will need to read. --Teratornis (talk) 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Printing pages from Wikipedia

I've printed many pages from this wonderful source but in the last week math equations have failed to print. Everything else is fine; just the math formulas(LaTeX?). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mytg8 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try changing the setting in the 'Math' section of Special:Preferences, I don't know what to though...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 20:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Column problem

When I click on any of the film links in the second column on my user page, the column just disappears. However, the other three columns work just fine. How can I fix it? Clarityfiend (talk) 20:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried clicking on a link in each column, and they all work for me (Firefox 2.0.0.14 on Ubuntu). Try purging and reloading the page. If that doesn't work, tell us what Web browser and Operating system you are running. See Wikipedia:Browser notes. --Teratornis (talk) 20:09, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa! The same things happened to me. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.14 on Windows 2000. Hmm. Let me look around. TN‑X-Man 20:11, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I changed the number of columns to 5 (don't worry, I didn't save it) and it worked fine. I have no idea what that indicates though. TN‑X-Man 20:26, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Creating Discussions / Requesting Page Edits

Hey guys,

I feel really lame. I've been a software developer for 10 years, in nearly every language you can think of, and I have no idea how to figure out how to add a discussion, comment, or question under a page. On a couple of pages I started, like in particular, the Enterolobium Cyclocarpum page (Elephant Ear Tree / Guancasta), I have been editing it for a while, but I would like to request an edit from someone with more experience. In particular, I wanted to request a "endangered species" chart be added to it (if it's needed). I click on Discussions, and since there is not one currently there, I don't know how to add or edit, or create a new one?

How can I create a new discussion under an individual page, or request that someone make an update?

Thanks, and sorry if this has already been covered, I wasn't sure how to search for that either.

Todd —Preceding unsigned comment added by Todd82TA (talk • contribs) 20:44, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You see the tab "discussion" at the top? That's where talk pages exist. If it's redlinked, it means no-one's created it yet, so you can create your comment in the same way you'd create an article. If it's bluelinked, click it, and then the tab "new section". Add your title in the smaller box, and your question/comment/request in the bigger box. Then click "save page". And you're all done/ :) See also WP:Discussion. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:47, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) To add a discussion page, just click the red link and type what you want. Then click Save Page. If you want attention from editor put an applicable template at the top. Also, to sign just use ~~~~ instead of a name. Paragon12321 (talk) 20:49, 11 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

v t e Wikipedia help pages
*Visit the Teahouse* or the Help desk for an interactive Q & A forum. FAQs (?) Reference desks (?) Noticeboards (?) Cheatsheet (?) Directories (?)**
About Wikipedia (?)	Administration Purpose Principles Policies and guidelines What Wikipedia is not Disclaimer (parental advice) Making requests Who writes Wikipedia?
Help for readers (?)	FAQ Books Copyright Glossary Mobile access Navigation Other languages Searching Students Viewing media
Contributing to Wikipedia (?)	Advice for young editors Avoiding common mistakes Etiquette Simplified Manual of Style Simplified rule-set "Ignore all rules" "The rules are principles" Style-tips Tip of the day Your first article (article wizard)
Getting started (?)	Why create an account? Introductions by topic Graphics tutorials Picture tutorial IRC (live chat) tutorial VisualEditor user guide
Dos and don'ts (?)	Accessibility Biographies Biographies (living) Categorization Consensus Discussions Disambiguation Images Leads Links Lists References Tables Titles (of articles)
How-to pages and information pages (?)	Appealing blocks Article deletion Categories Citations/references Referencing for beginners Citation Style 1 Cite errors References and page numbers Convert Diff Editing Minor edit toolbar edit conflict Find sources Files Footnotes Image deletion Infoboxes Linking (link color) Logging in Merging Page name Renaming pages Redirect Passwords Email confirmation Reverting Simple vandalism cleanup Talk pages (archiving simple archiving) User contributions WP search protocol
Coding (?)	Wiki markup Barcharts Calculations Characters Columns Elevation Hidden text HTML Lists Magic words Music symbols Sections Sounds Tables Templates Transclusion URL Visual files
Directories (?)	Abbreviations Contents (Encyclopedia proper) Departments Editor's index Essays FAQs Glossary Guidelines Manual of Style Policies Tasks Tips Tools
Missing Manual Ask for help on your talk page (?)