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'''Merton Howard "Mert" Miller''' ([[May 16]], [[1923]]{{ndash}} [[June 3]], [[2000]]) shared the [[Nobel Prize in Economics]] in [[1990]], along with [[Harry Markowitz]] and [[William Forsyth Sharpe|William Sharpe]].


== Merge: Batman Beyond ==
He was born in [[Boston, Massachusetts]]. He worked during [[World War II]] as an economist in the division of tax research of the Treasury Department, and received a [[Doctor of Philosophy|Ph.D.]] in economics from [[Johns Hopkins University]], [[1952]]. His first academic appointment after receiving his doctorate was Visiting Assistant Lecturer at the [[London School of Economics]].


Is there a good reason for this page to exist independently? The character doesn't appear outside of the Batman Beyond context, and that article already gives all of the important details. Opinions? [[User:Simnel|Simnel]] 19:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
In [[1958]], at [[Carnegie Institute of Technology]] (now [[Carnegie-Mellon University]]) whose [[Graduate School of Industrial Administration]] (now [[Tepper School of Business]]) was the first and most influential research-oriented U.S. business school, he collaborated with his colleague [[Franco Modigliani]] there to write a paper on “The Cost of Capital, Corporate Finance and the Theory of Investment.” This paper urged a fundamental objection to the traditional view of [[corporate finance]], according to which a corporation can reduce its [[cost of capital]] by finding the right debt-to-equity ratio. According to the [[Miller-Modigliani theorem]], on the other hand, there is no right ratio, so corporate managers should seek to minimize tax liability and maximize corporate net wealth, letting the debt ratio chips fall where they will.


I personally always thought this guy deserved his own article, as several DCAU supporting characters not approaching his level of importance (e.g.: Galatea) have their own pages. The Batman Beyond page is also not very well organized. --[[User:Ace ETP|Ace ETP]] 18:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
The way in which they arrived at this conclusion made use of the "no [[arbitrage]]" argument, i.e. the [[premise]] that any state of affairs that will allow traders of any market instrument to create a riskless money machine will almost immediately disappear. They set the pattern for many arguments based on that premise in subsequent years.


I don't think, despite the recent improvements, the current quality of this article warrants independent existence. As the vote on the Batman Beyond page is slightly in favor of the merge, I'm gonna do so as soon as I get the time. [[User:Simnel|Simnel]] 15:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Miller wrote or co-authored eight books. He became a fellow of the Econometric Society in [[1975]] and was president of the American Finance Association in [[1976]]. He was on the faculty of the [[University of Chicago Graduate School of Business]] from [[1961]] until his retirement in [[1993]].


I think McGinnis deserves his own article. He's the second fulltime Batman. He's a DCAU original, independent character. He had his own comic and is a part of the main DC continuity. He fulfills all the criterias Harley Quinn does, and more. --[[User:Antrophica|Antrophica]] 07:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
He served as a public director on the [[Chicago Board of Trade]] 1983-85 and the [[Chicago Mercantile Exchange]] from [[1990]] until his death in [[Chicago]] on June 3rd, 2000.


Uh...technically existing in the future separates ter from main DC continuity the same way characters in [[MC2]] are separated from the current marvel continuity.
==Selected books==
*{{cite book |author=Merton H. Miller |title=Merton Miller on Derivatives |publisher=[[John Wiley & Sons]] |location=New York |year=1991 |id=ISBN 0-471-18340-7}}
*{{cite book |author=Merton H. Miller |title=Financial Innovations and Market Volatility |publisher=[[Blackwell Publishing]] |location=Cambridge, MA |year=1991 |id=ISBN 1-557-86252-4}}
*{{cite book |last=Merton |first=Miller H. |coauthors=Charles W. Upton |title=Macroeconomics: A Neoclassical Introduction |publisher=[[University of Chicago Press]] |location=Chicago |year=1986 |id=ISBN 0-226-52623-2}}
*{{cite book |last=Kessel |first=Reuben A. |coauthors=R. H. Coase, Merton H. Miller |title=Essays in Applied Price Theory |publisher=[[University of Chicago Press]] |location=Chicago |year=1980 |id=ISBN 0-226-43200-9}}
*{{cite book |last=Fama |first=Eugene F. |coauthors=Merton H. Miller |title=The Theory of Finance |publisher=[[Holt, Rinehart & Winston]] |location=New York |year=1972 |id=ISBN 0-030-86732-0}}


Anyway, it's nice to know we have or had [[douche]] on top of this half hearted merger attempt. [[User:Ace Class Shadow|Ace Class Shadow]] 08:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
==See also==
*[[Modigliani-Miller theorem]]
*[[Eugene Fama]]


:Despite that he's a successor to the role, this is a completely individual character, like [[Cassandra Cain]], with his own mythos. It's also brilliant to see that [[Derek Powers|Blight]] and [[Inque]] have articles of their own, but not the protagonist of the show. --[[User:Antrophica|Antrophica]] 11:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
==External links==
*[http://ideas.repec.org/e/pmi18.html IDEAS/RePEc]


If this was going to be merged with anything, it should be merged with [[Batman]]. Multiple versions of [[Aquaman]] [[The Flash]] and [[Robin]] exist on the main page of all of them.[[Special:Contributions/122.46.174.121|122.46.174.121]] ([[User talk:122.46.174.121|talk]]) 06:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
{{Laureates of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences 1976-2000}}
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I think this page should stay separate, and I suggest a name change to "Terry McGinnis". --[[User:Damuna|Muna]] ([[User talk:Damuna|talk]]) 23:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
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During the creation of of that "late" article I always stated that it was a draft or unproject. It took weeks until Bennon cleverly figured out what I was trying to do was a sandbox (which I didn't know how to do until now).
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Now everyone can edit it with no time pressure and talk about what to do with the info when i's finally finished. I coul'd have created the sandbox in my own talk page, but I don't want anyone to assume I '''"[[WP:OWN|OWN]]"''' the project. Feel free to erase, add and source stuff to improve it.--[[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the wise]] 22:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
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The article follows the same line of thinking that created this very article, lets asy it's just the bio of the Old Bruce Wayne appearing in Batman Beyond, but got extended up to his very origins. The material should end up looking like [[Question (comics)]], or [[Joker (comics)]] "In other media" sections.--[[User:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow|T-man, the wise]] 22:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
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== Parallels to cb version of Tim Drake ==
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Ok, we all know that the cartoon version of Tim Drake is
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based of of Jason Todd, but has anyone noticed the similarities between Terry and the comic book version of Tim Drake? Both were never formally adopted by Bruce, both lived with their own families, both fathers were murdered by villains, both have a similar attitudes, both have the same basic relationship with Bruce Wayne, and -most noticeably- Tim Drake will supposedly become the second batman. Is this worth mentioning?
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:Nope. Too speculative. --[[User:Antrophica|Antrophica]] 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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Merge: Batman Beyond

Is there a good reason for this page to exist independently? The character doesn't appear outside of the Batman Beyond context, and that article already gives all of the important details. Opinions? Simnel 19:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I personally always thought this guy deserved his own article, as several DCAU supporting characters not approaching his level of importance (e.g.: Galatea) have their own pages. The Batman Beyond page is also not very well organized. --Ace ETP 18:51, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think, despite the recent improvements, the current quality of this article warrants independent existence. As the vote on the Batman Beyond page is slightly in favor of the merge, I'm gonna do so as soon as I get the time. Simnel 15:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I think McGinnis deserves his own article. He's the second fulltime Batman. He's a DCAU original, independent character. He had his own comic and is a part of the main DC continuity. He fulfills all the criterias Harley Quinn does, and more. --Antrophica 07:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Uh...technically existing in the future separates ter from main DC continuity the same way characters in MC2 are separated from the current marvel continuity.

Anyway, it's nice to know we have or had douche on top of this half hearted merger attempt. Ace Class Shadow 08:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Despite that he's a successor to the role, this is a completely individual character, like Cassandra Cain, with his own mythos. It's also brilliant to see that Blight and Inque have articles of their own, but not the protagonist of the show. --Antrophica 11:05, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

If this was going to be merged with anything, it should be merged with Batman. Multiple versions of Aquaman The Flash and Robin exist on the main page of all of them.122.46.174.121 (talk) 06:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I think this page should stay separate, and I suggest a name change to "Terry McGinnis". --Muna (talk) 23:49, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Batman: The Animated Series/Animated Series Batman (character)

During the creation of of that "late" article I always stated that it was a draft or unproject. It took weeks until Bennon cleverly figured out what I was trying to do was a sandbox (which I didn't know how to do until now). Now everyone can edit it with no time pressure and talk about what to do with the info when i's finally finished. I coul'd have created the sandbox in my own talk page, but I don't want anyone to assume I "OWN" the project. Feel free to erase, add and source stuff to improve it.--T-man, the wise 22:34, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

The article follows the same line of thinking that created this very article, lets asy it's just the bio of the Old Bruce Wayne appearing in Batman Beyond, but got extended up to his very origins. The material should end up looking like Question (comics), or Joker (comics) "In other media" sections.--T-man, the wise 22:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


Parallels to cb version of Tim Drake

Ok, we all know that the cartoon version of Tim Drake is based of of Jason Todd, but has anyone noticed the similarities between Terry and the comic book version of Tim Drake? Both were never formally adopted by Bruce, both lived with their own families, both fathers were murdered by villains, both have a similar attitudes, both have the same basic relationship with Bruce Wayne, and -most noticeably- Tim Drake will supposedly become the second batman. Is this worth mentioning?

Nope. Too speculative. --Antrophica 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

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Request Block

Too many new members and unregistered users are using this as a sandbox, ruining the viability of the topic. I request a block. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SuperSaiyaMan (talkcontribs) 05:23, 11 October 2008 (UTC)