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Does this creature actually have an official taxonomic classification?--Marhawkman 21:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Why is this in WikiProject Paranormal? Just because it's related to cryptozoology?--Marhawkman 21:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It has not been proven to exist24.36.212.177 00:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are two possibilities: The onza exists, or the onza doesn't exist. Both hypotheses have nothing paranormal about them. No cryptozoologist observing scientific methods would add unnecessary paranormal (ghosts, UFOs, whatever) hypotheses to that - that's left to pseudoscientific I-want-to-believers. Therefore, I don't see any reason why this article should be classified as paranormal. --130.92.9.56 14:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Onza is still a mysterious creature and many people believe its lack of 'evidence' suggests that its existence is other-worldly. PigeonPiece (talk) 15:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge this article with Jaguarundi?

The Onza appears to be the Herpailurus yaguarondi or Herpailorus yagouaroundi (CONAP naming), aka Puma yaguarondi. It is considered an endangered species. Moreover, "The Jaguarundi is so elusive that researchers have been unable to estimate how many are left in the wild." according to Texas Parks and Wildlife.

There is an Onza population in the Sierra de las Minas biosphere reserve in Guatemala.

I suggest this article be cleaned up, and merged with the Jaguarundi article. Arjuno 19:43, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

What makes you think the onza has anything to do with a Jaguarundi? I've never seen a source indicate this. Before a merger can take place, there needs to be a reliable source connecting the two. Firsfron of Ronchester 03:18, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1. The Parkswatch profile on the Sierra de la Minas Biosphere Reserve in Guatemala includes this reference to the Onza: "There is also a significant presence of felines, including the jaguar (Panthera onca), puma (Felis concolor), onza (Herpailorus yagouaroundi), ocelot (Leopardus pardalis) and margay (Leopardus wiedii.) (FDN, 1997.)" FDN stands for Fundación Defensores de la Naturaleza, an NGO that manages the Sierra de las Minas biosphere reserve and has first hand knowledge of the fauna in the reserve. See: http://www.parkswatch.org/parkprofiles/pdf/smbr_eng.pdf

2. The spanish wikipedia article on the yaguarondi (unfortunately unreferenced) lists a series of popular names for Herpailurus yaguarondi, including "Onza": El yaguarundí es un felino nativo de América, cuya distribución comprende desde el sur de los Estados Unidos hasta el centro de Argentina. Se lo conoce también como yaguarondi gato lagarto, gato moro, gato nutria, onza o gato eyrá. See: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpailurus_yaguarondi Arjuno 21:28, 27 July 2008 (UTC).

3. The onza has also been identified as "Felis yaguaroundi" in the "Bocas del Polochic wildlife reserve" in Guatemala (see http://selene.uab.es/brodriguezl/IM_05_MCE-Izabal.pdf page 126).

4. A field report on the fauna in the Río Sapo in El Salvador (in 2005) mentions the presence of Herpailurus yaguaroundi, aka “gato zonto" or "onza”. See http://www.marn.gob.sv/uploaded/content/article/331857920.pdf pages 6-7.

5. The zoological park "Parque Zoológico Las Delicias" in Venezuela mentions having a number of onzas in the park: "Herpailerus yaguaroundi (Onza)" See: http://zoologicolasdelicias.com.ve/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=45