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| Name = The Hoople
[[Image:Thompson&Thomson.png|thumb|right|232px|Thomson and Thompson ''(Dupont et Dupond)'']]
| Type = Studio
| Artist = [[Mott the Hoople]]
| Cover = thehoople_album.jpg
| Released = {{Start date|1974|3|29}}
| Recorded = Advision Studios, [[London, England|London]], {{Start date|1974|1}}, [[AIR Studios]], London, {{Start date|1974|2}}
| Genre = [[Glam Rock]]
| Length = 39:09
| Label = [[Columbia Records|Columbia]]
| Producer = [[Dale "Buffin" Griffin]], [[Ian Hunter (singer)|Ian Hunter]] and [[Peter Watts (musician)|Pete "Overend" Watts]]
| Reviews =
*[[Allmusic]] {{Rating|4.5|5}} [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:66jiear04xd7 link]
*[[Robert Christgau]] (B) [http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=mott+the+hoople link]
*''[[Rolling Stone]]'' (favorable) [http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/mottthehoople/albums/album/287493/rid/5945266/ link]
| Last album = ''[[Mott (album)|Mott]]''<br/>(1973)
| This album = '''The Hoople'''<br/>(1974)
| Next album = ''[[Live (Mott the Hoople album)|Live]]''<br/>(1974)
| Misc = {{Extra album cover 2
| Upper caption = Alternate cover
| Type = studio
| Cover = th2006.jpg
| Lower caption = 2006 reissue cover
}}
}}


'''''The Hoople''''' is a 1974 album by [[Great Britain|British]] band [[Mott the Hoople]]. Its highest chart rating in the US was #28. <ref name=allmusicalbumcharts>{{cite web |url=http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:66jiear04xd7 |title=allmusic (((The Hoople > Charts & Awards > Billboard Albums))) |accessdate=2008-05-20 }}</ref> A remastered and expanded version was released by [[Sony BMG]] on the Columbia Legacy label in Europe in 2006.
[[Image:Woodenthompsontoy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This wooden toy depicts Thom'''p'''son, albeit without his characteristic bowler hat. His moustache does not flare out like Thomson's. When the red string is pulled, his arms and legs move.]]


==Track listing==
'''Thomson and Thompson''' ('''''Dupond et Dupont''''') are a pair of detectives in [[Hergé]]'s classic [[European comic]] strip ''[[The Adventures of Tintin]]''. It is unclear whether the two are related; they have different names but are referred to as twins or brothers at least twice in the series. In any case, the two clumsy [[detective]]s look like [[twin]]s and can only be told apart by the shape of their moustaches. They provide much of the [[comic relief]] throughout the series, as they are afflicted with [[spoonerism]]. They are thoroughly incompetent, and always bent on arresting the wrong character, but in spite of this they somehow get entrusted with delicate missions, such as ensuring security for the [[Syldavia]]n space project or investigating arms dealing.
All tracks written by [[Ian Hunter (singer)|Ian Hunter]] except as noted. <ref name=album>Mott the Hoople. ''The Hoople.'' (Columbia Records, 1974).</ref>
# "[[The Golden Age of Rock 'n' Roll]]" – 3:26
# "Marionette" – 5:08
# "Alice" – 5:20
# "Crash Street Kidds" – 4:31
# "[[Born Late '58]]" ([[Peter Watts (musician)|Overend Watts]]) – 4:00
# "Trudi's Song" – 4:26
# "Pearl 'N' Roy (England)" – 4:31
# "Through the Looking Glass" – 4:37
# "[[Roll Away the Stone]]" – 3:10


''Track listing note:'' On the original [[LP album]] release, side one was comprised of tracks 1-4; side two of tracks 5-9. <ref name=album />
The detective with the flared moustache ('''''t'''roussée'', hence ''Dupon'''t''''') is Thomson (without a "p"), who often describes himself as ''"Thomson, without a 'p,' as in [[Venezuela]]!"''. The detective with the flat moustache ('''''d'''roite'', hence ''Dupon'''d''''') has described himself as ''"Thom'''p'''son with a 'P,' as in..."'' and then used words with either a silent "P," or in which the "P" is combined with another letter, as to change the sound, such as [[Philadelphia]], [[psychology]] and so on.


===Bonus tracks (2006 reissue)===
==Character history==
# "Where Do You All Come From" ([[Dale "Buffin" Griffin]], Hunter, [[Mick Ralphs]], [[Peter Watts (musician)|Peter Watts]]) – 3:26 <small>B-side of "Roll Away the Stone" single.</small>
The first appearance of Thomson and Thompson was in ''[[Cigars of the Pharaoh]]'' when they came into conflict with Tintin on board a ship where he and Snowy were enjoying a holiday cruise. When this adventure was first published in 1932 they were referred to as X33 and X33bis (or X33 and X33b). On this occasion they showed an unusually high level of cunning and efficiency, going to great lengths to rescue Tintin from the firing squad in disguises that fooled even him, and saving Snowy from sacrifice.
# "Rest in Peace" – 3:55 <small>B-side of "The Golden Age of Rock 'n' Roll" single.</small>
# "[[Foxy, Foxy]]" – 3:31 <small>Non-LP single A-side.</small>
# "[[Saturday Gigs|(Do You Remember The) Saturday Gigs]]" – 4:20 <small>Non-LP single A-side.</small>
# "The Saturday Kids" – 6:03 ([[outtake|Work in progress mixes]])
# "Lounge Lizzard" – 4:19 (Aborted [[single (music)|single]] [[A-side and B-side|b-side]])
# "[[American Pie (song)|American Pie]]/The Golden Age of Rock 'N' Roll" ([[Don McLean]], Hunter) (Live) – 4:15 ([[recorded live track|Live]] from [[Broadway (New York City)|Broadway]])


==Personnel==
In this and other stories like ''[[The Blue Lotus]]'' and ''[[The Black Island]]'', they would spend most of their time pursuing Tintin himself for crimes he had not committed, although they later reconciled with him.
*[[Ian Hunter (singer)|Ian Hunter]] – [[singing|vocals]], [[rhythm guitar]], keyboards
*[[Peter Watts (musician)|Pete "Overend" Watts]] – [[bass guitar]], vocals, riff guitar, [[twelve string guitar|12-string guitar]]
*[[Dale "Buffin" Griffin]] – [[drum kit|drums]], vocals, [[percussion instrument|percussion]]
*[[Luther Grosvenor|Ariel Bender]] – [[lead guitar]], vocals, [[slide guitar]]
*[[Morgan Fisher]] – [[Organ (music)|organ]], [[synthesizer]], [[piano]]
===Additional personnel===
*Howie Casey – [[tenor saxophone]] on 1 2 3 7
*Jock McPherson – [[baritone saxophone]] on 1 2 7, [[tenor saxophone]] on 1 2 7
*Mike Hurwitz – [[cello]] on 2
*[[Lynsey De Paul]] – [[backing vocalist|backing vocals]] on 3 9
*[[Mick Ralphs]] – backing vocals on 7, rhythm guitar on 9
*Graham Preskett – [[violin]] on 8, [[conducting|conductor]] on 8, [[tubular bell|tubular bells]] on 8
*Sue Glover & Sunny Leslie – backing vocals on 1 8
*Barry St. John – backing vocals on 1 8
*[[Thunderthighs]] (Karen Friedman, Dari Lalou & Casey Synge) – backing vocals on 9


===Technical personnel=== <!-- need engineering/mastering folks -->
In spite of the codenames mentioned above, they remained nameless in the early adventures, including ''[[The Blue Lotus]]'', ''[[The Broken Ear]]'' and ''[[The Black Island]]''. It was not until ''[[King Ottokar's Sceptre]]'', published in 1938, that Tintin mentions their definitive names when introducing them to Professor Alembick at the airport.
* Dale "Buffin" Griffin - producer
* Ian Hunter - producer
* Pete "Overend" Watts - producer


==Charts==
While the original version of ''Cigars of the Pharaoh'' came out in 1932, the rewritten and redrawn version was issued in 1955, and the English version was not issued until 1971. This resulted in some chronological confusion for new readers of the Tintin series, which is why the text hints that Tintin already knew the pair, and was surprised at their unfriendly behavior; however, on the original chronological sequence, this was indeed the first time they ever met.


'''Album'''
In the next Tintin volume, ''[[The Blue Lotus]]'', an unforgettable half-page drawing appears of Thomson and Thompson walking down a street in China "in disguise" (in fact wearing outfits for a Chinese opera), unaware that they are being followed by a large crowd of amused locals.
{| class="wikitable"
!Year
!Chart
!Peak<br/>Position
|-
|1974
|[[Billboard 200|''Billboard'' Pop Albums]]
|align="center"|28 <ref name=allmusicalbumcharts />
|-
|1974
|[[UK Albums Chart]]
|align="center"|11 <ref name=ukt40>{{cite web |url=http://www.everyhit.com |title=UK Top 40 Hit Database |accessdate=2008-05-20 }}</ref>
|-
|}


'''Single'''
Thomson and Thompson also appear in a [[retcon]] on the very first page of the 1946 remake of ''[[Tintin in the Congo]]'' though they keep at a distance, looking on as Tintin, surrounded by admirers, sets off for Africa. A remark made by one of them implies that at that stage they do not even know Tintin by name, only reputation.
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
!Year
!Single
!Chart
!Peak<br/>Position
|-
|1973
|"Roll Away the Stone"
|[[UK Singles Chart]]
|align="center"|8 <ref name=ukt40 />
|-
|1974
|"The Golden Age of Rock 'n' Roll"
|UK Singles Chart
|align="center"|16 <ref name=ukt40 />
|}


==Certifications==
The detectives usually wear [[bowler hat]]s and carry walking sticks, except when abroad: during those missions they insist on wearing the "[[National costume|costume]]" of the country they are visiting so as to blend into the local [[population]] (like in ''The Blue Lotus''). But in general they only manage to find some ridiculous folkloric attire that actually makes them more conspicuous and leads to trouble, such as in ''[[The Calculus Affair]]'' when they are arrested in Swiss traditional outfits. In ''[[Destination Moon]]'', they even managed to be arrested in Syldavia while wearing ''Greek'' costumes, convinced they were wearing Syldavian ones, due to an error on the part of their [[tailor]].
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
!align="left"|Organization
!align="left"|Level
!align="left"|Date
|-
|align="left"|[[British Phonographic Industry|BPI]] – [[UK]]
|align="left"|Gold
|align="left"|{{start date|1974|4|1}} <ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.bpi.co.uk/ |title=BPI Certified Awards |accessdate=2008-05-20 }}</ref>
|-
|}


== Notes ==
Another recurring joke in the early adventures was when they and Tintin would requisition fast cars, motorcycles or boats in order to pursue the villains: Tintin would start up so fast that the Thompsons would be thrown off while Tintin, unaware of this, would continue the pursuit warning them to hold on tight.
{{reflist}}


[[Category:Mott the Hoople albums|Hoople, The]]
Thomson and Thompson were originally only side characters, but later became more important. In the redrawings of the earlier albums, especially ''[[The Black Island]]'', the detectives gained their now traditional mannerisms.
[[Category:Glam rock albums|Hoople, The]]

[[Category:1974 albums]]
In ''[[Land of Black Gold]]'', the detectives mistakenly swallow some pills which cause them to sprout immensely long beards which frequently change colour. The condition wears off by the end of this adventure, but relapses in ''[[Explorers on the Moon]]'', causing problems when the enormous beards threaten to fill the confined space of the moon rocket.

In the 19 books following ''Cigars of the Pharaoh'' (not including the unfinished ''[[Tintin and Alph-Art]]'' or the book of the film ''[[Tintin and the Lake of Sharks]]''), Thomson and Thompson appear in 17 of them, not appearing in ''[[Tintin in Tibet]]'' or ''[[Flight 714]]'', although in some books their role is minor; their appearance in ''[[The Shooting Star]]'' is confined to a single panel.

==Inspiration and cultural impact==
The detectives were physically based on Hergé's father and uncle, who were twins, both of whom wore matching bowlers. Another inspiration was a picture of two mustachioed, bowler-hatted, formally dressed detectives who featured on the cover of the ''Le Miroir'' edition of [[March 2]], [[1919]]. They were shown escorting a criminal &mdash; one detective was handcuffed to the man while the other was holding both umbrellas. <ref>Michael Farr, ''Tintin: The Complete Companion'', John Murray, 2001.</ref> In turn, the Thom(p)sons inspired the name of the [[United Kingdom|British]] 1980s [[Popular music|pop]] band, the [[Thompson Twins]].

They (or at least their Roman-era ancestors) also make a brief cameo appearance in the [[Asterix]] book ''[[Asterix in Belgium]]''.

==Names==
Translators of the series have tried to find in each language names for the pair that are similar or identical in pronunciation. Thus ''Dupond'' and ''Dupont'' in the original [[French language|French]] become:<ref>"[http://tintin.francetv.fr/uk/aventures/persos/dupon.html Thomson and Thompson]." ''Tintin''.</ref>
*''Thomson'' and ''Thompson'' in [[English language|English]] and [[Czech language|Czech]]
*''Schultze'' and ''Schulze'' in [[German language|German]]
*''Jansen'' and ''Janssen'' in [[Dutch language|Dutch]]
*''Hernández'' and ''Fernández'' in [[Spanish language|Spanish]]
*''Douponte'', ''Doupone'' in [[Persian language|Persian]] (دوپونت و دوپونت)
*''Citserono'' and ''Tsicerono'' in [[Esperanto]]
*''Skapti'' and ''Skafti'' in [[Icelandic language|Icelandic]]
*''Tik'' and ''Tak'' in [[Arabic Language|Arabic]].
*''Dupont'' and ''Duvont'' in [[Japanese language|Japanese]] (デュポンとデュボン ''Dupon to Dubon'')
*''Uys'' and ''Buys'' in [[Afrikaans Language|Afrikaans]]
*''Johns'' and ''Johnes'' in [[Welsh Language|Welsh]]
*''Clodius'' and ''Claudius'' in [[Latin]]

The original Dupond and Dupont was kept in [[Swedish Language|Swedish]], [[Danish Language|Danish]], [[Portuguese language|Portuguese]], [[Indonesian language|Indonesian]] and [[Finnish language|Finnish]].

==References==

{{refs}}

{{Tintin and Hergé}}

[[Category:Tintin characters]]
[[Category:Fictional duos]]
[[Category:Fictional detectives]]

[[cs:Kadlec a Tkadlec]]
[[da:Dupond og Dupont]]
[[de:Tim und Struppi#Schulze_und_Schultze]]
[[es:Hernández y Fernández]]
[[fa:دوپونت و دوپونت]]
[[fr:Dupond et Dupont]]
[[gl:Hernández e Fernández]]
[[id:Dupont dan Dupond]]
[[nl:Jansen en Janssen]]
[[pt:Dupond e Dupont]]
[[sv:Dupondtarna]]

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The Hoople is a 1974 album by British band Mott the Hoople. Its highest chart rating in the US was #28. [1] A remastered and expanded version was released by Sony BMG on the Columbia Legacy label in Europe in 2006.

Track listing

All tracks written by Ian Hunter except as noted. [2]

  1. "The Golden Age of Rock 'n' Roll" – 3:26
  2. "Marionette" – 5:08
  3. "Alice" – 5:20
  4. "Crash Street Kidds" – 4:31
  5. "Born Late '58" (Overend Watts) – 4:00
  6. "Trudi's Song" – 4:26
  7. "Pearl 'N' Roy (England)" – 4:31
  8. "Through the Looking Glass" – 4:37
  9. "Roll Away the Stone" – 3:10

Track listing note: On the original LP album release, side one was comprised of tracks 1-4; side two of tracks 5-9. [2]

Bonus tracks (2006 reissue)

  1. "Where Do You All Come From" (Dale "Buffin" Griffin, Hunter, Mick Ralphs, Peter Watts) – 3:26 B-side of "Roll Away the Stone" single.
  2. "Rest in Peace" – 3:55 B-side of "The Golden Age of Rock 'n' Roll" single.
  3. "Foxy, Foxy" – 3:31 Non-LP single A-side.
  4. "(Do You Remember The) Saturday Gigs" – 4:20 Non-LP single A-side.
  5. "The Saturday Kids" – 6:03 (Work in progress mixes)
  6. "Lounge Lizzard" – 4:19 (Aborted single b-side)
  7. "American Pie/The Golden Age of Rock 'N' Roll" (Don McLean, Hunter) (Live) – 4:15 (Live from Broadway)

Personnel

Additional personnel

Technical personnel

  • Dale "Buffin" Griffin - producer
  • Ian Hunter - producer
  • Pete "Overend" Watts - producer

Charts

Album

Year Chart Peak
Position
1974 Billboard Pop Albums 28 [1]
1974 UK Albums Chart 11 [3]

Single

Year Single Chart Peak
Position
1973 "Roll Away the Stone" UK Singles Chart 8 [3]
1974 "The Golden Age of Rock 'n' Roll" UK Singles Chart 16 [3]

Certifications

Organization Level Date
BPI – UK Gold April 1, 1974 (1974-04-01) [4]

Notes

  1. ^ a b "allmusic (((The Hoople > Charts & Awards > Billboard Albums)))". Retrieved 2008-05-20.
  2. ^ a b Mott the Hoople. The Hoople. (Columbia Records, 1974).
  3. ^ a b c "UK Top 40 Hit Database". Retrieved 2008-05-20.
  4. ^ "BPI Certified Awards". Retrieved 2008-05-20.
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