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[[Image:Jemima_Cats.jpg|thumb|right|[[Veerle Casteleyn]] as Jemima in the [[1998]] ''[[Cats (musical)|Cats]]'' video.]]
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Jemima is a principal character in the [[musical play]] ''[[Cats (musical)|Cats]]'', written by [[Andrew Lloyd Webber]] using the poetry of [[T. S. Eliot]]. She is the youngest member of the tribe of Cats, the voice of innocence and wonder. She is also a demanding dancing role.


==Character==
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In the [[musical play]] ''[[Cats (musical)|Cats]]'', '''Jemima''' is a [[Tortoiseshell cat|calico]] kitten and, while usually a chorus cat, plays a role in accepting [[Grizabella]]; she is among several kittens (the others being [[Victoria the White Cat|Victoria]], [[Electra (cat)|Electra]], and [[Etcetera (cat)|Etcetera]]) who trust Grizabella and are pulled away in efforts to reject the ageing cat. A wide-eyed beautiful [[ingenue (stock character)|innocent]] cat with an ethereal voice, she truly hears Grizabella's plea for re-acceptance and encourages the older cat for a chorus in "[[Memory (song)|Memory]]".
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She is the youngest kitten, and is attracted to the charismatic [[Rum Tum Tugger]]; in particular, Tugger seems to have a soft spot for her as well. She also seems attracted to [[Alonzo (cat)|Alonzo]], [[Mr. Mistoffelees]], [[Jellicle cats#Pouncival|Pouncival]], and [[Jellicle cats#Tumblebrutus|Tumblebrutus]], and arguably some others and may have a relationship with one of them. She separately dances with the first three, and snuggles with Tumblebrutus after the Mating Dance. Jemima is very close to [[Victoria the White Cat|Victoria]], and the two seem to be best friends. She seems to be the most mature kitten in the pack. She may also have a rare relationship with the moon, the symbol of life for the Jellicles, because she sings to the moon several times and sings of the happiness and new lives that it gives. She might have seen into the past of Grizabella, which could be why she is one of the only cats to accept her. She also tries to help her when she shows up at various moments, when all of the other cats (except Victoria) turn away from her, and don't accept her.
The '''sock puppetry investigation''' page is used to discuss whether a user is likely to have violated Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry|policy on sock puppets]]. If you believe a number of accounts and/or IP editors are editing in breach of that policy, you may open a case here to inform other editors of your concerns.


She also has a connection with the leader, [[Old Deuteronomy]]. When he sings of 'The Moments of Happiness', naturally, the deep, reflective philosophical verse goes over everyone's heads. So he sends the message again through two cats (they vary; in the film it is [[Coricopat]] and [[Tantomile]]) and finally to Jemima, who sings the true meaning again for everyone to hear. She distils the essence of Deuteronomy's learning, and all the cats sing with her.
Because this may accuse a fellow editor of improper editing, you should be careful to read the notes below. Note that editing of these pages is '''strictly limited''' to evidence about actual misuse of accounts and IPs, and should be mainly based upon [[WP:DIFF|diffs]], visible behavior. Any user who has evidence or informed opinions may post them. Clerks will remove or redact '''all off-topic''' discussions.


It is unclear who her family is in the musical. Relationships within the show are fluid and dependant on the production. Jemima is possibly the daughter of [[Demeter (cat)|Demeter]] and [[Munkustrap]]. Her costume bears strong similarities to Demeter and Bombalurina, wearing gloves instead of arm warmers and in the spiked style of collar, and Demeter and Munkustrap are often portrayed as mates. It is also a possibility that Jemima is the last born kitten of [[Jennyanydots]] and [[Skimbleshanks]]. Skimbleshanks' overprotective nature over Jemima is displayed often in the filmed version, especially when a threat such as [[Grizabella]] or [[Macavity]] appears, he's seen placing himself in front of her, hiding her and pulling her away.
Sock puppetry cases are evaluated primarily on the basis of publicly available ''behavioral evidence''. You can ask for IP and other technical evidence from the [[WP:CHECK|CheckUser]] tool to be added, but this will only be done if [[m:Checkuser policy|CheckUser policy]] permits and only if appropriate to do so.


==Casting==
: ''Closed cases can be found at [[/Closed]].''
* [[Sarah Brightman]] originated the role in London
* [[Veerle Casteleyn]] played Jemima in the [[CATS (film)|1998 video version]] (although her voice was dubbed by Helen Massie due to her accent). (aka: Helen Massey<ref name=helenmassie>{{cite web
|url=http://www.helenmassey.com/home.html
|title=Helen Massey
|accessdate=2007-11-08
|work=Helen Massey Website }}</ref>)
* [[Ruthie Henshall]] played Jemima in London in 1988.<ref name=briefhistory>{{cite web
|url=http://www.ruthiehenshall.com/stage.html#cats
|title=Official Ruthie Henshall Website
|accessdate=2008-02-28
|work=stage work }}</ref>
* On the 2006-7 UK tour, she was portrayed by Louisa Barrett.


==Sillabub==
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When the show transferred from London to [[Broadway theatre|Broadway]], the name "Jemima" was believed to carry negative racial connotations, such as mentioned in relation to [[Aunt Jemima]]. The character was re-named using another of [[T. S. Eliot]]'s Jellicle names, "Sillabub". This, he explained, is a mixture of "Silly" and "Bealzebub" - devil-ish. Sillabub's costume is generally slightly paler than Jemima's.
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The name "[[Syllabub]]" has different connotations in the UK, being the name of a traditional dessert. The name Jemima carries no racial connotations in the UK, however the name is generally recognised as a Victorian girl's name (such as the daughter in [[Chitty Chitty Bang Bang]]).
== Information ==
=== Things you need to know ===


==References==
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=== Multiple accounts ===
Merely having multiple accounts, or the same opinion as another editor, is completely permitted. However, '''if the behavior of the accounts or IPs is also a concern''', and it looks like there is an attempt to improperly influence the editorial process or deceive other editors, then all of the following might be breaches of this policy:-
:* Two room-mates, house-mates, or friends who edit very similarly (and are a cause for concern) in some areas
:* The same user editing with two accounts, or (deliberately) as an account and also an IP, or pretends to be more than one person
:* A person who asks someone else (or is asked) to come to Wikipedia to support them on a discussion or vote
:* An account that appears to be operated mainly in order to behave differently (in terms of conduct or controversy) from some other main account that is probably being kept "clean", without a good reason.

[[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Agapetos angel#Meatpuppets|Past cases]] by the [[WP:AC|Arbitration Committee]] have also held that for the purposes of making decisions on Wikipedia, two accounts or IPs that appear to exist mainly to support each other's edits, may be treated as the same person, for the purposes of this policy.

''See the [[/Guidance notes#Forbidden activities|guidance notes]] and [[WP:SOCK|sock puppetry policy]] for more.''

=== Claims of sock puppetry ===
Identifying sock puppetry is not always a simple factual matter. There is often an element of judgement and assessing of evidence. You need to provide evidence showing the accounts or IPs are probably acting in a disruptive or forbidden manner, which other editors will then assess and may look further if they feel the need. If there is a good case that checkuser data from the server logs may be needed to resolve the case, you may request that a checkuser adds this evidence to the case. They will only do so if they feel it is necessary and appropriate. (See [[/Guidance notes#Checkuser|guidance notes]] for more.)

=== Defending yourself against claims ===

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If accused of puppetry, stay cool and behave well. If you have not abused multiple accounts or IPs and have not breached the policy on meat-puppetry, then that will almost always be the finding, so do not point fingers back unless there is a genuine need. If there is a good reason why the evidence does not show what it claims, point it out in your own section. If you are operating a legitimate multiple account and do not want to make this public, then please see [[WP:SOCK#Alternative account notification|Alternative account notification]], and [[Special:Listusers/CheckUser|email any checkuser]] (or [[WP:AC|any Arbitrator]]) to ask for help.

Sockpuppet inquiry pages are '''only''' about account and IP misuse, nothing else. If an accusation on this page is "bad faith" (an editor making a fake case as an "attack" or to prevent their own mis-editing being looked into) then you may wish to say so briefly, but at the end of the day, a case on this page will be decided based upon '''evidence of misuse of accounts only'''. If the evidence is not there, then the case will be closed without an adverse finding.

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=== How to open a case ===

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:* ''2nd or further case?'' - If a previous case ''already exists'' for ''this user'', under the same name, IP, or a different one, use that name, and add the case as a new report on the same page.
:* ''Not sure?'' - If you ''aren't sure'', create it as a new page, and comment that you aren't sure - a clerk will check for you.
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| '''Create the report page (or section):''' Using the box below, create the case by replacing "CASENAME" with the name of the puppetmaster, or previous case name. The name given to the case should be the original case name (if any), or the main name the user is known by (do not add the word "user").

Eg, if the case name is about '''[[User:Example|User:JohnDoe]]''' or the existing case is at [[{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Example|{{FULLPAGENAME}}/JohnDoe]], then you should enter '''{{FULLPAGENAME}}/JohnDoe''' in the box.

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=== See also ===
*[[Wikipedia:Sock puppetry]]
*[[Wikipedia:Single purpose account]]
*[[Wikipedia:Call a spade a spade]]
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Revision as of 14:41, 11 October 2008

Veerle Casteleyn as Jemima in the 1998 Cats video.

Jemima is a principal character in the musical play Cats, written by Andrew Lloyd Webber using the poetry of T. S. Eliot. She is the youngest member of the tribe of Cats, the voice of innocence and wonder. She is also a demanding dancing role.

Character

In the musical play Cats, Jemima is a calico kitten and, while usually a chorus cat, plays a role in accepting Grizabella; she is among several kittens (the others being Victoria, Electra, and Etcetera) who trust Grizabella and are pulled away in efforts to reject the ageing cat. A wide-eyed beautiful innocent cat with an ethereal voice, she truly hears Grizabella's plea for re-acceptance and encourages the older cat for a chorus in "Memory".

She is the youngest kitten, and is attracted to the charismatic Rum Tum Tugger; in particular, Tugger seems to have a soft spot for her as well. She also seems attracted to Alonzo, Mr. Mistoffelees, Pouncival, and Tumblebrutus, and arguably some others and may have a relationship with one of them. She separately dances with the first three, and snuggles with Tumblebrutus after the Mating Dance. Jemima is very close to Victoria, and the two seem to be best friends. She seems to be the most mature kitten in the pack. She may also have a rare relationship with the moon, the symbol of life for the Jellicles, because she sings to the moon several times and sings of the happiness and new lives that it gives. She might have seen into the past of Grizabella, which could be why she is one of the only cats to accept her. She also tries to help her when she shows up at various moments, when all of the other cats (except Victoria) turn away from her, and don't accept her.

She also has a connection with the leader, Old Deuteronomy. When he sings of 'The Moments of Happiness', naturally, the deep, reflective philosophical verse goes over everyone's heads. So he sends the message again through two cats (they vary; in the film it is Coricopat and Tantomile) and finally to Jemima, who sings the true meaning again for everyone to hear. She distils the essence of Deuteronomy's learning, and all the cats sing with her.

It is unclear who her family is in the musical. Relationships within the show are fluid and dependant on the production. Jemima is possibly the daughter of Demeter and Munkustrap. Her costume bears strong similarities to Demeter and Bombalurina, wearing gloves instead of arm warmers and in the spiked style of collar, and Demeter and Munkustrap are often portrayed as mates. It is also a possibility that Jemima is the last born kitten of Jennyanydots and Skimbleshanks. Skimbleshanks' overprotective nature over Jemima is displayed often in the filmed version, especially when a threat such as Grizabella or Macavity appears, he's seen placing himself in front of her, hiding her and pulling her away.

Casting

Sillabub

When the show transferred from London to Broadway, the name "Jemima" was believed to carry negative racial connotations, such as mentioned in relation to Aunt Jemima. The character was re-named using another of T. S. Eliot's Jellicle names, "Sillabub". This, he explained, is a mixture of "Silly" and "Bealzebub" - devil-ish. Sillabub's costume is generally slightly paler than Jemima's.

The name "Syllabub" has different connotations in the UK, being the name of a traditional dessert. The name Jemima carries no racial connotations in the UK, however the name is generally recognised as a Victorian girl's name (such as the daughter in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang).

References

  1. ^ "Helen Massey". Helen Massey Website. Retrieved 2007-11-08.
  2. ^ "Official Ruthie Henshall Website". stage work. Retrieved 2008-02-28.