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Why is it you can't use a fair use image on a userbox? It's fair use. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]]
Why is it you can't use a fair use image on a userbox? It's fair use. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]]
:Where is the restriction that says it is only fair use "if"? Fair use is fair use so long as it's cited as such. That's like a company saying the use of their image is fair use, so long as you don't try and sell it, but when another company shows it on their site the original company says no you can't do that. If restrict it's use then it is no longer "fair use" and it becomes "restricted use", where permission is necessary for usage. There are dozens of userboxes with images that are fair use. That's why they are fair use, because you are using them in a manner that is not for profit or copyright infringement. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 01:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
:Where is the restriction that says it is only fair use "if"? Fair use is fair use so long as it's cited as such. That's like a company saying the use of their image is fair use, so long as you don't try and sell it, but when another company shows it on their site the original company says no you can't do that. If restrict it's use then it is no longer "fair use" and it becomes "restricted use", where permission is necessary for usage. There are dozens of userboxes with images that are fair use. That's why they are fair use, because you are using them in a manner that is not for profit or copyright infringement. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]] 01:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
::I gotcha covered now. This is a much better image, I think so at least. [[User:Bignole|Bignole]]

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Hello The Rogue Penguin/Archive3, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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The default 250px as it is now defeates the point of size parameter. Does it not? --Cat out 19:00, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it doesn't. The way the paramaters are set up currently make the size parameter the senoir parameter of the two. Should it be left blank, the image box defaults to the original. However, if {{{size|250px}} is used, it will cause an error in some templates. Should someone declare the parameter with "size = ", but not give a value, the image will not display. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 20:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Oh I see. Thanks then. ^_^ --Cat out 22:44, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Jutsu

Well, I would first ask if "Jutsu" is ever used outside of a Naruto context. WhisperToMe 22:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

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Welling

Watch the clip. Welling himself didn't say anything about being considered for the role, just that him and Ratner discussed it and acknowledged the scheduling conflict. His last statement was that he didn't know if he was being considered or if it was just for comparison purposes. Nevermind, I see that you were just revert in mass dose and didn't see that. My bad. Bignole 01:56, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Corrected for it. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 01:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I saved the page and immediately saw that you had gone back and corrected it. My apologies. Bignole 01:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Superman

Ok, so what is your opinion on this "preceeded by". I started a discussion, but it seems to be between me and one other person that they lag in their response time. If you could take a look, if you haven't already, I'd appreciate another opinion. Bignole 16:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I do believe I am going to need your help on this "preceeded by" section from other users (namely the last two that have posted on the TALK PAGE for the article). Not only for Superman Returns, but also for the previos Supe movies that they have edited to say that Superman Returns Follows Superman II, and that Superman Lives follows Superman IV. Bignole 06:13, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your help with these articles, and with the "protection" that was placed. It amazes me that these people don't understand simple definitions. I feel like I'm trying to explain something to a 5 year old. You tell what is really going on and they still stick to what they are talking about because that's all they know. Anyway, Thank again for all the help. Bignole 06:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm glad it went up quick, otherwise we would have had to deal with Superman II as the Preceeding film till it was up. Well, I can finally get some rest without having to worry about those children. Bignole 06:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Didn't you say Kitty's name was spelled Kosawlski? or however that other person was spelling it?? I thought I saw you say that, and you changed it, but now it seems as though you are going with Koslowski. How was it spelled in the credits? Bignole 01:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, cause I didn't know if I had read you wrong and you were really saying it was Koslowski. Right now it's sitting at Koslowski, being redirected from Kowalski. What we have to do is find the ones that are resticting the correct name and put them up for deletion. Then, after they have been deleted, we can assume the proper name. Bignole 01:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. Oh, thanks for including that trivia back in. I can kinda see where you are coming from, but to me that was just so much of a stretch that it was either an error on their part or they decided to change it. They did have Clark fly at age 15 as well, which he didn't do until around 18 or so. Bignole 01:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
When you get a chance I need you to revert Wah's edits to the 'sub-plot' section. He keeps inserting POV comments about whether Superman is or is not Jason's father. Right now it reads like "some people believe that..." and this is clearly POV, because you cannot interpret someone else's opinion. I do not wish to revert again because I am already at 2 reverts, while Wah (if you included his disguised revert) is now at 5. If you could help I would appreciate it. Bignole 17:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies for "Wild Vine"

I'm sorry for changing the Unnamed Alien back to Wild Vine. When I first saw it I thought that its proper term was incorrect. Being a mere 10 years of age, I'm very gullable to false information. Especially information on my favorite topics. I'll try not to assume unresearched information for now on.--Sheep 21:05, 24 June 2006 (UTC)Cryptosporidium-137

Im 11 and If I were you I would leave the pages alone, Some person, I think my brother, Blanked out pages and added stupid things like new aliens and stuff like that, and I got in trouble, but if I were you I would leave the pages alone. SerpentsTail

Wording on akatsuki bijuu

Akatsuki having 7 bijuu, and Akatsuki knowing the whereabouts of all remaining jinchuuriki, are two separate pieces of speculation. It is perfectly logical to say "current info suggests speculation1 and speculation2", because both speculations are, separately, suggested by current info. It is not logical to say "current info suggests speculation1 OR speculation2", because that makes it sound as if it suggests only one of the two. Grrblt 18:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Using the word "and" is not in any way an indication of a statement being correct. "And" only ties two parts of a sentence together, which in this case is correct. Current info suggests speculation1, and current info suggests speculation2. As I've included the word "suggests" I've made plain that the speculations may be wrong altogether and adding an "and" does not change that. I even included "may" in speculation1. With your wording, it gives the impression that current info suggests one of two things, when in fact, it suggests both. Anyway, the entry is changed now to something that fits better so it doesn't matter anymore. Grrblt 18:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

User:The Wretched's edits to Naruto articles

Checking his history, I noticed that he moved all the Naruto episode titles to romanized versions of their Japanese names. Is this kosher? Danny Lilithborne 04:51, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with Naruto spoilers

Just wanted to mention I appreciate the work you're doing to tag/remove spoilers from the Naruto article. Spoilers are a killer, especially in this series, especially in a page that I hope will someday achieve FA - Meersan 19:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Superman Lives

What exactly is the problem and what do I need to look at? Bignole 15:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

OK, well, right now I'm at work so it's going to be hard for me to go through the whole thing, but the first thing I will do is put up a POV warning for the page, so signify that it's under dispute. I've "watched" the page, so I will know what changes are made after that. When I get a chance I will read through and see what needs to be done. Does the discussion page refer to the tense or to the references? When i glanced it was just the references that were under fire. Bignole 15:24, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Why do Superman Lives and Batman vs Superman have their own article? Shouldn't they both be lumped in as part of the process to bring Superman back to the big screen. Neither was ever made, yet they have articles as if they were made. It seems more fanbased to have separate articles for both when they could all be put to better use in one large article that details the struggle to bring Superman back. What do you think? Bignole 01:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Spidey

Has that character been confirmed? Do you know? Bignole 20:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Not just Rhino, but the guy that becomes Rhino. His name is now listed. Bignole 20:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I removed it. Also, about the other thing, I changed the name, but kept the page link. I will go back and move all the "character" pages to none 'cap' titles. Bignole 20:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Why do you keep reverting my changes to this article? I am linking dates to allow user preferences on dates to work. By reverting my changes, you are not allowing users who have an alternate date style to be able to use it. Not everyone wants their dates shown in the format "May 4, 2007". Please read WP:DATE. Thank you. --Tim1988 talk 09:42, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. No where in the article does it say that it is the Ultimate version, but the fact that you are linking EB Jr. you should link it to the correct page. That is why 'Venom' is linked to the general Venom page, and Eddie Brock Jr. is linked to the Ulimate Venom page, because that is the only place he was known as such. That doesn't imply that this is the version being used, it's simply a link. Even if they reinvent the character of Venom, and nothing from the comic carries over, you still have to link to that comic, because that is where it comes from. Bignole 21:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
But now you have a terrible gap between the title of the section and the first bullet. What's worse, a right index or a big gap between the text and the title. Bignole 17:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Now the gap is between the first and second bullet. You can't see the gap? What browser are you using, and what is your pixel size? Bignole 17:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Maybe it's cause I am using IE. I meant screen resolution, not pixels. My bad. What resolution do you have? Maybe it's cause your screen is smaller, but chances are it's cause of Firefox. Bignole 18:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism, again, by 207.69.137.11

Hey, this is User:ProfessorPaul; I was checking on the Wikipedia article on Rose State College, and I regret to report that it has been vandalized (again) by 207.69.137.11. Now, I checked 207.69.137.11's talk page; you were the last person to leave a message there--and the message there was a final warning that to please STOP vandalizing Wikipedia. Check the history in the Rose State College article; I will try and revert it. Thank you for your attention to this matter. User:ProfessorPaul 23:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Naruto

Why do you keep adding (video game) to the "Naruto: Clash of Ninja" articles? That is usually only done when there is something else on Wikipedia with the same name(like a manga or TV show with the same name). TJ Spyke 06:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry Im not sure how to change back to a certain revision(feel free to edit my user talk page to teach me if you have time). I should have used the sandbox. I was trying clean it up to make Uchiha Obito as a link in the List of Chunin, not Uchiha Clan#Uchiha Obito which looks somewhat gaudy. jeydo 18:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Dammit, that second data book again

Always such a thorn in my side. I'll go back and fix them again. The Splendiferous Gegiford 21:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Information

Just thought you should look at [1] for information on the identity of 24.159.183.244. Also feel free to delete this. – Pedantic79 (talk) 06:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I have deiced to apply the German usebox solution to prevent conflict over image. Myrtone

Keeping the screting and losing trust

Do you think that Jeremie and the others should spiull the beans on their secret if they regain the ability to trust other people? --User:Angie Y.

I don't, but I do think you should have verified that you were talking about Code Lyoko. Brainiacoutcast 15:20, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

About moving articles

Quit acting arrogant. I wouldn't have to do this if you din't make the proper article titles in the first place. Its you that has screwed every thing up. I can't use the move tab because the page that it needs to be moved to already exists. Please tell me if there is a way around this so i can quit playing your little game.--SwordKirby537 05:41, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Naruto Ages

The Rookie Nine are all 12, not 13, but Team Guy's members are 13. This "second databook" crap is probably between Part 1 and 2. If you look at the characters ninja files in the games, or prettymuch anywhere else, you'll see they are 12. Darklinkskywalker 22:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

3-Revert Rule

You have been cited for violating the 3-revert rule on the Superman Lives article. Do not threaten your peers for the actions you committed. I'm contacting a system administrator; they'll block you soon enough. Wumbo 04:26, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Someguy0830, you made four reverts. Do not lie. Recheck the History page; do not go into denial over an article. I'm sure some people around here are a little tired of all this. Why don't you take a break for a few days and calmly think this over? I'll be right here waiting. Wumbo 05:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, that's Superman Lives, not Superman Returns. A simple typo; however, my offer is still open. Wumbo 05:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Naruto

So instead you just revert it to the non-sensical way it was before? Theres a section in here about Rock Lee thats virtually nothing to do with Naruto. They don't have a close relationship.Darkwarriorblake 15:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't finished, the sections were waiting for a write up on what he did during the first half. I did my best with the sections but its hardly the ideal article to work with. A section on personality that has aspects of his physical appearance in it, then relationships which is entirely not needed, then more personality with physical appearance and a brief overview of what hes done so far with no mention of anything from the first saga, no Zabuza, no nothing and a chunk of trivia which hurts my eyes. It needs a major overhaul.Darkwarriorblake 15:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

We've Got a Terrorist on Our Hands

Someguy, there is a vandal known as "AAH Vandal" with a self-proclaimed vendetta against our Code: Lyoko wikis. He destroyed Angie Y's talk page (you should really see how hostile this user is) and called her and the wiki some choice words I choose not to repeat. I know that you and KFan are at extreme odds with each other, but the threat posed by the AAH Vandal seems to be serious indeed. This might be the time to set aside our differances and cooperate. --Jeremie@theLab 02:21, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for removing that odd comment off my talk page. -- Gogo Dodo 18:02, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Chiyo

I noticed that you are very knowledgeable about the Naruto articles, so I was wondering if you think Chiyo has enough information to have her own article? I think she does, but I would want a second opinion from someone with experience. 65.175.199.104 22:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Really? I think she was fairly important. She was around for a little more or less than Zabuza and Haku and I see they have articles. She also seems more important to the story. Though, she's defiantly more important than Shizune or Tenten who will probably never get any more development. But, whatever. Thanks anyways. 65.175.199.104 22:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

English spelling reform

Regarding [2]: just what kind of 'Dragons and Dungeons,' what kind of false game of magic and superstition are you playing, whereby you 1. virtually admit to vandalism by use of the word 'seriously' and 2. decide that there are some parts of the cosmos (notably Wiki Talk pages, for some reason) which can't constitute a source for Wiki main entries? I understand that you are trying to avoid the implied incest of a main entry referring to a talk page, but how else to encapsulate a lengthy and somewhat off-centre debate which has been had there? Your case is of course weakened by the vandalism you appear to admit to, today, but it wouldn't surprise me if you now were to quote some arcane, bureaucratic Wiki game rule to support your case. After all, the convention whereby authors reveal their identities only on the Talk pages is similarly weird, unexplained and inexplicable enough already. Enough already. --Etaonsh 20:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

A little question...

where do you get the codes for user-boxes?--Darwin 23:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)Cryptosporidium-137

Thanks!--Darwin 00:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)# Cryptosporidium-137

Eurekanav and Television Character Infobox

I disagreed with your cleanup of the eurekanav box, so I reverted...the original conforms to standards from nav boxes from some other shows, and I am trying to create some consensus. If you really hate it, lets talk about it. On the other hand, I like the character infobox simplifications that you have made.Transcendentalstate 20:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that consistency is relative, especially in Wikidom, but starting somewhere is helpful. You may not choose to claim it as a reason for a revert, but it seems quite reasonable to me. And what do you have against centering? I'll leave it alone, but with all the other things there are to do, it seems odd to fuss over centering or not. Transcendentalstate 20:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

That is a matter of opinion.Transcendentalstate 20:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Umm, ok...not certain I follow your logic, but no big deal. Thanks for the rational dialogue instead of a revert war. Have a great weekend.Transcendentalstate 21:00, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Today's FHFIF vandalism issues.

You missed one piece of vandalism. But I removed it. I personally believe the cases of vandalism are linked, seeing as the only other articles that were touched by the IPs' users were ones related to Digimon. So if any of them act up, it's worth reporting to a Wikipedia admin like Shanel immediately. --Juigi Kario (Charge! * My crusades) 05:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)


Did you follow the link?

I realize that you don't especially feel the need to follow any standards, and granted, standards are not mandatory rules, but if you look at what is trying to be done to keep entries for television shows uniform, you can see that using the words "Arc Significance" in that order is a perfectly sensible thing to do. Arc significance is actually fairly common parlance amongst people who follow arc heavy shows, and there is no implication that the entire arc is contained in the show. I protest heartily your reversion, and once more I refer you to Wikipedia:WikiProject Television episodes. I also refer you to Veronica Mars, as the folks who have run those episode pages have done an exceptional job. Not trying to be rude at all, just suggesting that you look at what else is happening. Transcendentalstate 23:08, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

New Idea

Since you don't like "Arc Significance" and I don't like "Significance in Arc", perhaps we could find something more agreeable to both of us that might convey more information? May I nominate "Significance to Overall Storyline" or "Significance to Storyline"?Transcendentalstate 14:00, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

spelling of guy

In Japenese, the version is spelled Gai. I'm just wondering what version we should put up because I see your constant change of Gai to Guy without an explanation. Can you please tell me why? Thank you. -ScotchMB 22:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

OK thank you for your explanation, even though it seemed a little rude. =) -ScotchMB 01:07, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
It's ok, I should've read better. It's my fault and I understand. ~----

Request by KFan II

Dear esteemed sir Someguy0830, we've had our differences, and I now realize that you were right. My site is overvandalized and the articles are sometimes misleading. Now that most of our articles have been deleted, I ask you to help revert the ones vandalized and create new pages out of the ones destroyed, these pages with canonical information supported by the show. I want to team up with you to try and make a better Code: WIKI. If you agree to this compromise, I will unblock you, give you SysOp powers, and once you have helped restore the pages and such, give you a Materialized Roachster. Please accept this offer, and let us overlook our previous fights and try to make a safe, secure, non-vandalized, canonical wiki for the sake of our French cartoonists who make such good shows. KFan II 06:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Hulk

Why is it you can't use a fair use image on a userbox? It's fair use. Bignole

Where is the restriction that says it is only fair use "if"? Fair use is fair use so long as it's cited as such. That's like a company saying the use of their image is fair use, so long as you don't try and sell it, but when another company shows it on their site the original company says no you can't do that. If restrict it's use then it is no longer "fair use" and it becomes "restricted use", where permission is necessary for usage. There are dozens of userboxes with images that are fair use. That's why they are fair use, because you are using them in a manner that is not for profit or copyright infringement. Bignole 01:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I gotcha covered now. This is a much better image, I think so at least. Bignole