Template talk:Infobox Australian place

Adelaide South Australia
Population	1,124,315 (5th)
• Density	615/km2 (1,590/sq mi)
Area	1,826.9
Time zone	ACST (UTC+9:30)
• Summer (DST)	ACDT (UTC+10:30)

Elizabeth Adelaide, South Australia
File:Elizabeth, South Australia.JPG Looking towards Elizabeth on Main North Road
Population	811 (2001)
Established	1955
Postcode(s)	5112
LGA(s)	City of Playford
Suburbs around Elizabeth: Elizabeth West Elizabeth North Elizabeth Park Edinburgh Elizabeth Elizabeth East Elizabeth South Elizabeth Vale Hillbank

Mount Barker South Australia
Mt Barker summit, from Mount Lofty
Population	9,073
Established	1834
Postcode(s)	5251
Location	40 km (25 mi) from Adelaide
LGA(s)	Mount Barker DC
State electorate(s)	Kavel, Heysen
Federal division(s)	Mayo
Mean max temp Mean min temp Annual rainfall 40 °C 104 °F 3 °C 37 °F ?

Adelaide Hills Council South Australia
Population	36,629
• Density	46/km2 (120/sq mi)
Established	1997
Area	795.08 km2 (307.0 sq mi)
Mayor	Bill Cooksley
Council seat	Woodside
Region	Adelaide Hills, Metropolitan Adelaide
State electorate(s)	Morialta, Kavel, Schubert
Federal division(s)	Mayo, Sturt, Wakefield
File:AHC.gif
Website	Adelaide Hills Council

Replacing

What are we actually replacing?

Generic

• Template:Infobox Town AU
• Template:Infobox Australian Town
• Template:Infobox Australian City
• Template:Infobox Australian Suburb
• Template:Infobox Australian Suburb2

City specific

• Template:SydneySuburbBox2
• Template:MelbSuburbBox1
• Template:MelbSuburbBox1/Water
• Template:MelbSuburbBox2
• Template:MelbSuburbBox2/Water
• Template:MelbSuburbBoxIncomplete (redirects here)
• Template:Infobox MelbourneSuburbTable4
• Template:BrisSuburbBox
• Template:Infobox Brisbane Suburb (redirects here}
• Template:Perth Suburb
• Template:AdelSuburbBox (deleted)
• Template:Adelaide Suburb
• Template:Infobox Canberra Suburb

LGA

• Template:Austlocalgovtarea
• Template:Local Government Areas

Categories regarding obsolete templates

• Obsolete Templates
• Pages using obsolete templates

Post-implementation - some tinkering required

Now that we've got it through, I've changed across some of my model towns/suburbs/LGAs firstly to see how they look and secondly so that when I create brand new ones I'll be using the new template. Couple of oddities though:

• City of Joondalup - the images are out of whack - the old Austlocalgovtarea allowed size to be specified, and this wouldn't hurt to have on all of them - although it should be strictly optional (i.e. the template should behave as the template will normally, unless a size is specified). This also applies to those on the dreaded Perth Suburb template. My suggestion would be to have an "imgsize" attribute that if filled in can limit the size, and if not leaves the script to do as it does presently

Solution: get larger filesize images. TheJosh 12:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately with the Perth ones I didn't make them so that's not an option. (The image is about twice the size it needs to be on screen) Orderinchaos78 12:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Whats the problem? looks fine on my machine. A bit tall perhaps but thats it. Try refreshing your browser, or purging the file cache. TheJosh 12:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

• Duncraig, Western Australia - After doing this one I realised that the domain link (which is now itself deprecated as domain have changed their site) was messing things up (eg of new one: [1]). Otherwise works exactly right (and I like the smaller font for the neighbours! looks so much less ugly :))
• Works exactly right for towns (I've converted Harvey, Wandering and Beverley).

Great effort guys and considering the risk of hostility that existed just before this development project began, I think this has been managed in an incredibly orderly and collaborative fashion and will be far more useful than the ones it replaced. Orderinchaos78 10:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Check out our conversion progress with the query api. Current Count: 233 (thanks to Microsoft Word)

• I've only just had a look at this template since I noticed the infobox on the Melbourne article now has a notice saying that it is now obsolete with a link to this page. I'm interested in how it is intended to be implemented there.. Certain fields that were present in the previous infobox now don't appear to be there, such as the population estimate year (some estimates may not be recent so it is probably important to know what year the population is listed as)... Also, shouldn't they be consistent fields? Some just say for example, "Population" and some say "Established:" (ie with a colon). I might be bold and change them now - revert me if there is a good reason why this is the case. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 13:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Also, the LGA url doesn't seem to display unless there is a LGA image as well (I haven't checked the code, but I noticed in the LGA example on this talk page, it displays directly below the image). Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 15:32, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow - I just saw Diliff implement this on Hobart. Great work guys - a standard at last, and it looks fantastic! -- Chuq 23:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

• Quick one - we have a big problem re the header. On suburb, it previously (on IAS) linked to (city, state|city), (state) whereas now it links to (city), (state). End result - we have unhappy people from the other Perth running around changing all the Perth ones and breaking the template's logic for suburb neighbours. I realise the distinction has been drawn to support LGAs and towns, but is there a better way to do it? Orderinchaos78 01:59, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I have put a fix to this issue in the template code. If "Perth" is entered as city there should no longer be an issue. ◄§ĉҺɑʀκs► 16:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

• There was a version of the previous LGA template which supported the naming of adjoining LGAs. This appears to have been disabled. I know that this was not widely implemented and I only became aware of it 2 weeks ago, but I think it is moderately useful.--Grahamec 03:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

That was actually my doing (about two weeks ago I was mucking around with that template knowing it was going to be deprecated anyway and actually came into something that might be an idea) - [2] was one of the handful I converted across. It's easy to do for WA because Dept of Local Govt here produce a series of maps that draw borders for the entire state. If one wanted it back, it would be a matter of turning on "near-nw" to "near-se" for LGAs, and putting in code so it says "LGAs near..." instead of "Suburbs near..." - I think it would be overkill to link the word LGA as suburb presently is, as the "LGA" link further up already goes to the state based one. Orderinchaos78 ^(t|c) 10:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I implemented it for some of rural NSW and I think it should be turned on, but I'm not into programming templates yet.--Grahamec 13:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I can see the line that blocks access to LGA's - it's a pity this thing isn't more like a programming language, an "or" would be very useful here. Orderinchaos78 ^(t|c) 16:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I have now included the "neighbour box" for LGAs. The box will only show if a neighbour is specified using the near fields. ◄§ĉҺɑʀκs► 16:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. These are now good templates.--Grahamec 23:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

• Is there a problem with the LGA urls (where there is no logo) or am I doing something wrong? It seems to work for Tweed Shire Council, but not for Kyogle Council or City of Maitland. I think the logic should be: if LGA then (if logo... if url then...) else if url... (if you know I mean) but I'm not willing to experiemnt with this yet.--Grahamec 00:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for fix.--Grahamec 00:55, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

No problems, but it does look a bit strange having the url there on its own without the logo. I'll see if there can be better placement than this. ◄§ĉҺɑʀκs► 01:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the url should be bigger if there is no logo.--Grahamec 01:55, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

A url along will now create a new line, where if there is a logo it will show as before. TheJosh 02:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

When all of this is over, we should archive this conversation TheJosh 21:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. No need to wait. ◄§ĉҺɑʀκs► 06:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)