User talk:Gwen Gale

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Dude

Do you seriously think I give a shit what you think? What happened to Wikipedia:Ignore All Rules. Looks like you don't know the spirit of Wikipedia. Jabunga (talk)

Response

I don't think you want to help, and it's amazing how much of Wallamoose's antisocial behavior you've ignored. The notice is a brief one that will only be up for a few days. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 12:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks aren't allowed. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I request that the personal attacks against me on Wallamoose's talk page be removed. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Please provide diffs here, thanks. Gwen Gale (talk) 15:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

They can be seen at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wallamoose#Dreams_and_Hope and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wallamoose#Zen_Buddhism , if they are not refactored again. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 15:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I've removed the PAs. Mind, I think you should very carefully review WP:BLP, WP:OR, WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF before carrying on with any further edits. I don't think you understand Wikipedia's policies along these lines, or how most editors manage to get along with each other, even when they don't agree on stuff. Gwen Gale (talk) 15:54, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I understand all the policies. I don't think suggesting I post original research would be effective; all additions I make to pages are cited. Additionally, I never called any other editor "brain damaged" or questioned anyone's scholarship, or anything like that, unlike other editors. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 15:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

You clearly have not understood the policies, or have been unwilling to follow them. If you want to edit on this private website, you must follow its policies, which have come about through community consensus. If you do not follow them, for whatever reason, you will be blocked from editing. As for original research, you may not be aware that synthesis isn't allowed. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't see how I've ever synthesized material. Please provide an example. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 16:08, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

At Clarence Thomas you've tried to gather many carefully selected sources into a narrative which fits your highly slanted PoV on the topic, rather than citing reliable sources which offer their own sundry overviews, analysis and PoVs. The latter is WP:NPOV and not original research. The former isn't allowed. Please stop doing that. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:24, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

You provided a link to a Talk page comment I made and said I have a highly-slanted PoV, but the article itself doesn't meet the definition of synthesis. Also, the sources used are all reliable - government transcripts, Time, Newsweek, the Wall Street Journal, etc. - and I didn't even select them all, or even most of them, myself. I am going to respectfully disagree with your assertion of synthesis and leave this page for now. The Clarence Thomas page has more than enough people watching it. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 16:28, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Stay away from Wallamoose. Gwen Gale (talk) 16:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Could you check to see if User:Fclass has been editing as User:168.12.197.37?

I know that User:Fclass has a history of bypassing bans by editing as an IP. All I know of that User:168.12.197.37 did was make a polite request that I do a map of a race track. However, since he simply assumed that I do that type of stuff and other users that admins stated were User:Fclass did the same thing…

Note: User:Fclass has a history of assuming that I answer to him. Example: He told me not to do a track as though he would attempt to get me in trouble if I did. When making requests, he is polite. When telling not to do something, he isn't. I haven't yet brought this up on his talk page. Will (Talk - contribs) 18:32, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes that's how Fclass behaves. The IP is likely him, I more or less knew we'd see this, please let me know if it starts up again. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:38, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for all the time you've devoted to helping me out

You're one of the most helpful administrators I've come across. Sometimes I'm actually reluctant to thank people because I worry that I'll be accused of trying to bias them. That's how neurotic I've become in dealing with certain "issues" for so long... Thank you very much.(Wallamoose (talk) 19:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC))

Hey, you're welcome! (and I see you now know how to use the strikeout tags!) Talking online isn't always easy and the things we say can sometimes be taken wrong, but saying "thanks" is never untowards :) Gwen Gale (talk) 19:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

help with wind generator article

hello. we wanted to put up an article BATWING Wind Generator - but it looks like it was deleted (oops!). i had not finished with working on the page - we have lots and lots of info which show how in general any wind generator can be useful.

though a lot of this wasnt posted on the first time round - batwing is simply an acronym, not a trade name or otherwise - this is strictly a personal/family-and-friends type of project - strictly non-commercial :)

while we've not received any major coverage in the news, we believe wind power is good and putting up test results of a home made wadge of turbines (we've made 7 so far) would be provocative, in good sense.

if this isnt ok or there is a better way to go about this please guide me on this topic.

thanks!

Wherrelz (talk) 11:40, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wherrelz (talk • contribs) 11:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:GGcsd Gwen Gale (talk) 11:50, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Tarun Tejpal(journalist)

You moved too fast for a wiki article. See talkpage and restore the content.-Bharatveer (talk) 11:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:GGcsd Gwen Gale (talk) 11:55, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Music2Titan

Dear Gwen Gale,

I have worked on a new version of my Article on Music2titan.

In this new version i got rid of the mention of Apple's ITMS & Quick Time Implication in the process of distributing these unique music as you might have taken this mention as some kind of an adverticing, though this implication should be considered as a sign of the time : Only an immaterial distibutor could consider distributing music traveling in a space craft as know one knew if this space craft (Huygens probe) landing on Titan will be a success before it succedded (January 14 2005).

More over regarding this point : In many artistic project the mention and the action of the label and/or the distributor has it's importance in the understanding of the project in it self

I have also ad informations about the meaning of the musics accoding to it's composer and a quote by Ian Anderson who created the Music2Titan Logo.

Please have a look at the "Articles, References and sources" for more details.

I hope this is enough to bring back this subjetc into your great encyclopedia.

Best regards, Laura. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.202.97.188 (talk) 12:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Template:GGcsd Gwen Gale (talk) 12:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Micronations

Are groups with fancy names as long as they lack the power to tax their citizens. Of course. I'm going to have some more coffee—thanks for taking care of this! Darkspots (talk) 12:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Wherever that might be true but only if they never would, I'd say they'd be more worthy. Gwen Gale (talk) 12:26, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

who is know somewhere in the world or Not?

Hi Gwen Gale,

Well I think now you started looking for people who are putting Information about less know people. I wonder how you know who is know somewhere in the world or Not? Some people are locally known, do your created Web will not accommodate them! I have seen many pages on same website which I have never heard about, I am not going to delete them.

Regards,

Nas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nasirgilani (talk • contribs) 12:32, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Please have a look at Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. Also, have you read this page yet? Gwen Gale (talk) 12:35, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Music2Titan bis

Dear Gwen Gale,

I might not be very Familiar yet with all the WIkipedia Technics & Tips but it seems to me that you have answer to my previous message regarding the deleting of my article on Music2titan.

You answer looks loike an automatic answer as i saw the same sentence used to answer to other questions.

It maybe means that you did'nt have the time yet to read my message and especially to read the changes i made in The Article.

In that case i will wait for your precise answer on the subject, as i have read the page you mention and i did'nt find any objectiv reasons not to print this article.

Thank you for your time and attention.

Best regards,

Laura. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laura bland (talk • contribs) 13:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I answered above, you might need to read this page much more carefully then. Also, have you read Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines? Anyway, aside from some publicity blurbs on sundry space agency websites, this sub-project (putting some music data on a space probe) seems to have gotten no meaningful coverage. It might be more helpful to mention it in Cassini-Huygens. Gwen Gale (talk) 13:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

help with wind generator article

Hi Gwen, I did read through, yes. I'll try to get some better coverage so I can post a more comprehensive article. Thanks.

Btw - looks like while posting this reply i've done something silly - it appears i've mistakenly created this page http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hi...&action=edit - would you please delete it? thanks. I'm yet to get used to the posting interface; although I've used wikipedia for a lot of useful info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wherrelz (talk • contribs) 14:33, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Smoki People

A google search gets about 107,000 hits on the Smoki People and the Smoki Museum they created - which exits til this day.

I'd say that's enough to be included in Wikipedia.

EoGuy (talk) 18:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)EoGuy

Hardly 107,000 hits, more like less than a thousand for the string "Smoki People." The article is a CSD A7, carrying no assertion of significance or importance, was so tagged by one editor and deleted by me.

Please read this page, then see what you can do about fixing the text and citing some sources, I've put the article at User:EoGuy/sandbox, you can put it back in the article space when it's ready. Cheers, Gwen Gale (talk) 18:24, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Message to Garcia

Mr. Garcia is entering into 3RR status on Sarah Palin (sigh). With full force and vigor. A word or action from you might spare him worse from others. Thanks. Collect (talk) 23:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Just want to go on record, I reverted User:RafaelRGarcia and while I don't agree with him i'm no longer confident in my revert.--Cube lurker (talk) 00:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't matter, he should know by now not to edit war, much less on BLPs, it only stirs editors up and yes, as happened here, can cause them to make mistakes whilst coping with it. Oh and for the record (given his comment in his unblock request), I had not a clue what "side" he was editing from, I only tallied up the reverts and read the edit summaries. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I note Garcia claims you have actively edited in Sarah Palin though I thought I knew about all the active editors there by now (having read all the archives in a masochistic frenzy). Collect (talk) 00:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I'd forgotten about the single edit I made to the article on 29 August (restoring deleted, sourced content) when she got famous and I was watching the article following a request on ANI to do so, about 6 weeks and 8-9,000 edits ago. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, that's certainly enough to get you burned at the stake as a witch. Dayewalker (talk) 01:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

C'est quatre ans depuis ma dernière visite à Rouen, au moins :) Gwen Gale (talk) 01:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I had not realized I was on the road to ruin. (ducking) Collect (talk) 01:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Haha! Ain't heard that one in donkeys' years :P Gwen Gale (talk) 01:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

There is only one block of four edits in a row by RafaelRGarcia. One of the four is this. As you can plainly see, it is in no way a revert. I bring your attention to WP:3RR: "A revert is any action, including administrative actions, that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part. Consecutive reverts by one user with no intervening edits by another user count as one revert. (This differs from the definition of "revert" used elsewhere in the project.)". Unblock Garcia immediately, as per WP:3RR. I suggest an apology is in order. (copy edited to Garcia talk) Anarchangel (talk) 01:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I counted 6 reverts in only 3 hours. I did not count "consecutive reverts." At 23:59, 23:55, 23:48, 23:45, 23:42 and 22:05. Non-consecutive. I think six is a higher number than 3, and 3 hours is less than 24? If I recall correctly, you have been very active in Sarah Palin? Collect (talk) 01:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

You are mistaken, see "Golden Flurry" on the Discussion page of Sarah Palin. Anarchangel (talk) 01:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

• revert 1
• revert 2
• revert 3
• revert 4

These do not include the 5th revert which he took back. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I should also say, I stopped counting after I found these, there could indeed be more. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:32, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

You say you "did not count consecutive reverts". So I take it you are backing off from your position that you blocked him under WP:3RR. An apology for having invoked that rule misleadingly might perhaps be more in order, to say nothing of amending the block on his talk page. The wording is quite specific, and does not allow wiggle room as in mass number of edits; if they are not consecutive, it is not WP:3RR.

You might also want to consider how many of the six edits were in fact reverts. My diff shows the insertion of a comma. I think you would have a hard time convincing anyone that that counts as a revert. Anarchangel (talk) 01:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

The four reverts I listed above show a lot more than a comma and it was for those four reverts that he was blocked for 3rr. Edit warring isn't allowed. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I concede that point. They were reverts. They were not consecutive. You have not responded to my quote of 3RR, which shows you must desist from invoking that rule other than as context and attempt to restore what damage has been done by erroneously invoking it. You have an opportunity now to retract your statements regarding Garcia's blocking under WP:3RR. Anarchangel (talk) 01:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

The reverts I listed above weren't consecutive. Note that another admin declined the unblock request. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Isn't the protocol to warn a user on their talk page first? Switzpaw (talk) 01:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

No warning is needed: Users violating the rule may warrant a block from editing for up to 24 hours in the first instance. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

If I err not, Garcia has been a poor playmate in several venues now, including in ANI? And each time he says "I will be good"? And each time he falls short? Collect (talk) 02:06, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Priest River Lamanna High School

If you get a sec, can you spare a moment over at Priest River Lamanna High School. Some IP is inserting some weird fan-fic to the page. Could be inflammatory, but definitely gibberish. The page could either use semi-protecting, or the IP blocked, whichever is easier. Thanks in advance! Dayewalker (talk) 00:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Gracias! Dayewalker (talk) 00:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't like comin' down too hard on fit creative writers like that IP, if I can skirt it. ;) Gwen Gale (talk) 00:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:RafaelRGarcia

Would you mind taking a look at the most recent unblock request. Thanks, Tiptoety ^talk 01:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I guess that'll do. Gwen Gale (talk) 01:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)