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==Engrish?==
Most people have accepted the truly bizarre names 'Solid Snake', 'Big Boss' and 'Metal Gear' into standard vocabulary by now, to the point where they sound perfectly normal. But have you ever stopped to think about it? What does 'Metal Gear' really mean? Isn't 'Big Boss' an oddly juvenile codename? You have to remember that these names were made up alongside the obviously mis-translated villians such as 'Running Man', 'Machine Gun Kid', 'The Shotmaker' and even the dreaded 'Black Colour'. I always wondered if 'Solid Snake' was the product of the same bad translation, and that Kojima decided to stick with it rather than retcon the protagonist's identity... [[Special:Contributions/83.71.43.124|83.71.43.124]] ([[User talk:83.71.43.124|talk]]) 13:17, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

==Nationality/Ethnicity==
I seem to remember Vulcan Raven remarking in MGS1 that the Inuits and the Japanese are related. Is that an indication that Snake is Japanese-American or at least part Japanese? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/61.59.88.121|61.59.88.121]] ([[User talk:61.59.88.121|talk]]) 17:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Snake's apperences==
Ima change that Solid snake was in Ape escape and snake versus monkey,That is clearly
big boss.--[[User:Hitamaru|Hitamaru]] 00:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
:The Snake in Snake Vs. Monkey from MGS3 was obviously Solid Snake. Unless Big Boss travelled through time to converse with Colonel Cambell.[[User:Optimus Sledge|Optimus Sledge]] 23:33, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== 'Solid Snake' Spoken Wikipedia ==

Can someone either delete the one on this page or upload a better one? It sounds rediculous and is hardly discernible through the thick accent of whoever is speaking.

== Unmatched? ==

Alright, it says in this article that Solid Snake's skills are unmatched. Well, thats not quite true. For one example, Hideo Kojima has confirmed that in MGS2 Snake and Raiden are at equal skill - whether Snake fanboys agree or not. And I can only assume that in MGS4m Raiden had only surpassed Snake (mostly cause of age) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.222.253.141|24.222.253.141]] ([[User talk:24.222.253.141|talk]]) 09:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== MGS4 Pic ==
some one is posting naked pictures of nasty things on this site

In the most recent trailer I've seen, Snake doesn't look old. In fact, he only looks slightly older than he did in MGS2. Can someone find a pic of this? If I find the trailer, I'll post it and then edit the article. [[User:DeathGodDragon EDGE|DeathGodDragon EDGE]] 23:28, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

As far as we know, Old Snake ''is'' Solid Snake

[[User:The Bread|<font color ="red">'''†he Bread'''</font>]] 05:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, but I'm just sayin' I saw a trailer with Snake using his camouflage suit to blend in. Then, the enemy walk past a statue looking for Snake. When they leave, part of the statue moves, revealing a guy using a camouflage suit (in the exact same color scheme as Snake's suit). He removes his mask, and it's not Old Snake, but a younger looking man. [[User:DeathGodDragon EDGE|DeathGodDragon EDGE]] 00:45, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

The guy you see using the camo is probably Raiden, who is said to also be in MGS4. Old Snake is Solid Snake.

He is right, at the end of the trailer the "young" Solid Snake is shown wearing the Octocamo. If not him a man with the same face as MGS2 Solid Snake and smoking a cigarrette, the only difference is that he doesn't wear the Bandana.
[[Black Dollar|Black Dollar]] 12 February 2007

== Vandalism ==
I just saw this page with several pictures from the precum article. Locking the page may be a wise decision. [[User:64.91.86.166|64.91.86.166]] 08:37, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:Not sure what you're seeing, but this page hasn't been edited in over 24 hours. — [[User:TKD|TKD]]::[[User talk:TKD|Talk]] 10:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
I believe he's talking about the picture of a penis in the other appearences section. [not signing out of safety] {{unsigned|24.209.248.70}}
:Having done some investigation, the {{tl|Spoken Wikipedia}} template, which that section includes, was vandalized recently, but it has since been reverted and protected. You may need to purge your browser cache if you're still seeing it. — [[User:TKD|TKD]]::[[User talk:TKD|Talk]] 20:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

== Vandalism!!!!!!!!!1 ==

Someone is posting a picture of a vulva on the site. Clearly this is vandalism!!!!!!!! <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/69.236.89.238|69.236.89.238]] ([[User talk:69.236.89.238|talk]]) 20:52, 10 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

Yeah, there was a picture of a vulva when I visited the page just now as well. Makes it rather hard to read the article.

i love all of you so much

== Japanese name ==

This article has "Solid Snake" written in Japanese, but any interview I've seen with Kojima or an Konami staff has them reffering to him as Snake (albeit "Snake-a") not Sorrido Suneku. Can anyone confirm this Japanese name?

[[User:The Bread|<font color ="red">'''†he Bread'''</font>]] 07:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

:The "Japanese name" is how the katakana used to spell his name is romanized in the literal sense. It is a close approximation of how Japanese speakers would say those English words. -[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''Saturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi/Esperanza|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''Yoshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon" face="comic sans ms">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 08:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

::Ahh I see, Sorrido does sound like Solid when said with a Japanese accent, same for Suneku, sounds like Snake. Thanks for clearing that up, 'twas bothering me for a while

::[[User:The Bread|<font color ="red">'''†he Bread'''</font>]] 08:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

=== More vandalism?? ===
What is up with this part??

"Kojima has told a story in several interviews about riding the train home and running into one of the staffers working on Snake's Revenge, and being asked to rejoin them and help make an authentic sequel to Metal Gear.[2][1] Upon agreeing to this, the game they produced was Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake. Metal Gear 2, initially released only in Japan for the SEX2, follows after the original Metal Gear rather than Snake's Constipation; indeed, all later games ignore the events of Snake's Revenge, relegating it to non-canon status.[3]

Metal Gear 2 sees Solid Snake once again called up to impregnates a heavily-fortified enemy , this time in Zanzibar Land. Zanzibar Land has aggravated an international oil crisis and declared themselves a nuclear power by kidnapping Dr. Kio Marv, the creator of the formula to OILIX (a bio-engineered algae that produces an oil substitute), and Dr. Pettrovich Madnar, the inventor of the Metal Gear. Snake infiltrates the base and retrieves Dr. Marv's OILIX formula (albeit not Marv himself, who is tortured to death). However, he discovers that Pettrovich and his former comrade Gray Fox have defected to Zanzibar Land, and that Zanzibar Land is led by none other than Big Butt. Snake screws the new Metal Gear D, confronts and kills Gay Fox in a dance fight in the middle of a soccer field during a championship game, then kills Big Butt with a makeshift gaythrower in a final dysenterial infection."

This is obviosuly not up to wiki standards, I will change this, if anybody doesnt like my wording, please comment here...

Never Mind... its been fixed Thanks!!

I found another sign of vandalism, the japanese name for Solid Snake was spelled as Complettu Badassu.
[[User:Black Dollar|Black Dollar]] 19 February 2007

== Um, wow. Jihadi? ==

<i>Solid Snake from the upcoming Metal Gear Solid 4, here he is seen using the Octocamo camoflauge system as well as the M1911A1, hesitating to shoot a fleeing jihadi.</i>

With very little of the plot revealed, plus with Kojima simply stating that Snake can choose between "Country A and Country B" we don't know if the middle eastern folk are "Jihadis." - [[User:75.4.200.230|75.4.200.230]] 00:07, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
:Don't be silly. All Middle Eastern folk are Jihadis. I know, I read The Sun. [[User:Optimus Sledge|Optimus Sledge]] 23:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
::I watch Faux News <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.91.195.117|72.91.195.117]] ([[User talk:72.91.195.117|talk]]) 02:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


What a country :) <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.15.64.119|24.15.64.119]] ([[User talk:24.15.64.119|talk]]) 02:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== '''This article is terrible''' ==

Can someone please rewrite it. it is all wrong half the article is telling me about the games in the metal gear solid series the article is supposed to be about Solid Snake have a look at the Big Boss or Revolver Ocelot article they are excellent examples of great articles. [[User:194.125.53.82|194.125.53.82]] 14:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

:They're excellent examples of bad articles. Ocelot's redeming feature is that it's at least got real world content, Big Boss is just bad. You're meant to write the article with minimal plot summary and focas on the real world

:[[User:The Bread|<font color ="#FF0000">'''†he Bread'''</font>]][[User talk:The Bread|<sup><font color="#3FFF00">3000</font></sup>]] 05:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

::Exactly. Articles written primarily in in-universe style are amaturish and reek of fancruft. --[[User:81.179.92.14|81.179.92.14]] 02:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

:::Wow, lack of understanding much? This article is meant to be based on a CHARACTER. As such the article should be based on the history and story surrounding that character, not just what appearances the character has made. This is a horribly done article. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/58.179.94.71|58.179.94.71]] ([[User talk:58.179.94.71|talk]]) 00:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

=='''Snake vs. Gibson'''==

In MG2, if going to call mode while smoking, the picture of Snake will show him smoking. Then it is even more similar to the one you have of Gibson, the position of the cigarrette is the same. So if you change it it would show even better the resemblance.

[[User:Black Dollar|Black Dollar]] 20 February 2007

== Abilities ==

In MDS:TTS Snake is clearly seen lifting Dr. Emmerich 4 feet above the ground. Can anyone add this to the article? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:Mac-10&Cheese|Mac-10&Cheese]] ([[User talk:Mac-10&Cheese|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mac-10&Cheese|contribs]]) 00:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

Actually that could just be the fact that Snake is really strong, I don't see any real reason to add this to the article, unless I'm reading it wrong?[[User:DarkAvenger280|DarkAvenger280]] 06:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

If we take Twin snakes as canon, then we can also add these to the list of abilities: Being able to delay is own unconsiousness, being capable of trowing a hand grenade ALL THE WAY trough a tank`s cannon from at least 15 feet, and the very useful ability of stare at a rifle`s beam for like ten seconds without realizing what was it. I`m being sarcastic. [[User:Zidane tribal|Zidane tribal]] 06:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
:Wikipedia is not the place to state your opinion of Twin Snakes. -[[User:MentosC|MentosC]] 23:20, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

I know, you are right. I apologize. But my point is still reasonable Twins snakes shouldn`t be seen as a source of real information, the game is full of exaggerations and discrepancies. I believe that TS shouln`t be used on any article of the metal gear series or the characters. [[User:Zidane tribal|Zidane tribal]] 20:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, since The Twin Snakes shares the same story as the original game, there's no reason not to consider it canon. The MGS games are full of exaggerations and discrepancies - not just TTS. Hideo personally wanted the cutscenes to look the way they did, which seems pretty clear to me that Hideo Kojima believes Snake is capable of performing everything he did in TTS. The MGS games are not suppose to be 100% realistic, and many characters use exaggerated moves. Vamp's speed and skills, Ocelot's ability to make a single jump to reach RAY's cockpit from the ground... you get my point. TTS is a remake, not a game based on MGS's storyline.

Concerning the above post ^ "Hideo personally wanted the cutscenes to look the way they did" No, he didn't. Hideo Kojima did not direct TTS, hence why the cutscenes are far over the top compared to the original MGS's cutscenes. It's not canon, it is a remake. And yes the MGS series is far from realistic, however kojima always maintained a real world base of abilities at least with snake. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/58.179.94.71|58.179.94.71]] ([[User talk:58.179.94.71|talk]]) 00:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Where he lives==
Kojima says that snake lives in alaska,in mgs1 he even says hes lives in alaska with his dogs. Should it be added???--[[User:Hitamaru|Hitamaru]] 22:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
: It changed betwee games. You have to realize he originally lived in Canada in MG2. [[User:Jonny2x4|Jonny2x4]] 21:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
:: He could have moved,it says he lives in Alaska at the end of Metal Gear 2:solid snake.. cause it shows snake face.--[[User:Hitamaru|Hitamaru]] 01:21, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

==Nationality/ethnicity==

Snake is part Japanese, this is canon from MGS. Which means Big Boss is part Japanese, too.

Snake is also Mongolian. Stated by Vulcan Raven "Your ancestors too were raised on the barren plains of Mongolia".. It's not direct but he never says anything direct. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.4.23.195|75.4.23.195]] ([[User talk:75.4.23.195|talk]]) 01:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Can someone get a pic of Old Snake ==
it's best to use the current Snake pic as part of the Metal Gear Solid part of the article and use the Old snake to show how he is today.--[[User:Hitamaru|Hitamaru]] 22:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

== It's an M1911. A SIG GSR is a 1911 copy, and the pistol shown here has no definitive markings of a SIG GSR. ==

I keep changing this, just to have someone change it back. Can we vote on this or something? It's obviously a milspec 1911 (and will be identified as such in the game, I'm willing to bet). <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:TehBeefWhistle|TehBeefWhistle]] ([[User talk:TehBeefWhistle|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TehBeefWhistle|contribs]]) 01:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


It's a GSR as identified by the playable demo that was shown some time ago. The inventory screen identifies it as a GSR. Vids are all over the place. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/129.171.233.79|129.171.233.79]] ([[User talk:129.171.233.79|talk]]) 00:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

You are both correct and wrong. In the game more than 1 M1911 knockoff is available. Recalling off the top of my head there is a custom M1911A1, the SIG GSR .45, and a standard mil-spec 1911. Does it matter? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/58.179.94.71|58.179.94.71]] ([[User talk:58.179.94.71|talk]]) 00:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== HoYay≠Canon or fact, kthx. ==

To the ''lovely'' person who edited in un-encyclopedic fannish speculation regarding Snake and Otacon's love life:
Don't. EVER AGAIN. I love them as much as the next fangirl, but NO.

Also, boasting about vandalism on LJ? Not a smart move. [[User:Alanahikarichan|Alanahikarichan]] 20:04, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Goddammit. Now, see, I had already reverted it about half an hour before you even did this. Which means you DIDN'T HAVE TO DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. Now you've just proved that you live for flame wars by branching this argument out from the community. &lt;/discussion&gt;
-BFM <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.30.194.10|71.30.194.10]] ([[User talk:71.30.194.10|talk]]) 23:28, 28 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

8( NO.--[[Special:Contributions/69.71.170.89|69.71.170.89]] ([[User talk:69.71.170.89|talk]]) 17:08, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== what color is snakes hair??? ==

some die hard fans insist that it is darck blond and uthers say light brown any info <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Doctorbrassstone|Doctorbrassstone]] ([[User talk:Doctorbrassstone|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Doctorbrassstone|contribs]]) 07:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: ... I fail to see how it matters, but in all the PS1, PS2, and PSP games, on every screen I've seen 3d renders of him on on, and in every realistically colored piece of official art, it appears to be brown; it's certainly several shades darker than my hair, which ''is'' a shade that can be argued to be either brown or blonde.
:I can't recall what color the sprite's hair is in MG1+2 or GB, though, and there may be canon evidence that it's naturally a different color that I just don't remember. [[User:Alanahikarichan|Alanahikarichan]] ([[User talk:Alanahikarichan|talk]]) 13:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
<small>PS: Dark, others. ''Please.'' D:</small>
:It is dark brown. Check the updated image I just posted in the article.
:*[[User:Guy1423|Guy1423]] ([[User talk:Guy1423|talk]]) 21:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

== Other nicknames? ==

I've seen on blogs AND in the game that he goes by Jack. I think this should be added to nicknames/aliases. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/65.208.220.204|65.208.220.204]] ([[User talk:65.208.220.204|talk]]) 20:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:That was Big Boss, '''not''' Solid Snake! --[[Special:Contributions/74.34.217.222|74.34.217.222]] ([[User talk:74.34.217.222|talk]]) 22:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

== David... Sears? ==

So I've been hearing from a number of, erm... rather UNciteable sources that Snake's full canonical name is David Sears. Of course, I have no idea whether or not this is, in fact, canon, and I do have my doubts, but this is pretty much the only "family" name I have ever seen the man given. I'm not requesting that it be mentioned in the article or anything (yet), but it would be nice if someone could scrounge up some info on this allegation. I've tried, but my Google skills have failed me. Wiki articles (both stubs, really) for [[David Sears]] are completely unrelated, and the only other Sears I found via Google was some game dev for the SOCOM series or something. Meh. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/75.117.166.122|75.117.166.122]] ([[User talk:75.117.166.122|talk]]) 11:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

"David" is indeed his first name (which you find out in the non-canonical ending of MGS when you ride off into the sunset with Otacon), and I think "Sears" comes from "George Sears", aka Solidus. I think most fans either assume we aren't allowed to know his family name (state secret, perhaps?) or that it's "Sears".--[[Special:Contributions/69.71.170.89|69.71.170.89]] ([[User talk:69.71.170.89|talk]]) 17:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

:Which is also revealed in the CANONICAL Meryl ending! And just because the Otacon ending itself is non-canonical, doesn't mean any plot revelation made there isn't (namely Meryl's parentage). [[User:Jonny2x4|Jonny2x4]] ([[User talk:Jonny2x4|talk]]) 07:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

== Young Snake in MGS4 ==

Don't you think that we should at least mention the appearance of Young Snake at the end of the Tokyo Game Show 2006 trailer in the article? [[User:Ruthless Xero|Ruthless Xero]] ([[User talk:Ruthless Xero|talk]]) 04:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
: Considering we know nothing about that character what is there to add? You're also assuming that it is Solid Snake when it easily could be a completely new character. [[User:Strongsauce|Strongsauce]] ([[User talk:Strongsauce|talk]]) 14:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::Without getting into a deep discussion about it, if you look at the video closely you'll see it is probably just old snake with the mask made to look like young snake. The clue would be the white hair apparently sticking out the back. [[User:John.n-irl|John.n-irl]] ([[User talk:John.n-irl|talk]]) 14:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I realize that it might not be Snake, hell I realize it isn't Snake, but I think we should at least mention that someone looking like Snake in his younger years appears in the trailer whether it is or is not him. At the very least we should mention in the [[MGS4]] article. [[User:Ruthless Xero|Ruthless Xero]] ([[User talk:Ruthless Xero|talk]]) 22:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::: Why? We don't know how this "Young Snake" fits into the game. He has only been seen that one time so nothing you put in would be anything other than speculation. At least all the other new characters have something that can be added e.g. Sunny: Olga's daughter [[User:Strongsauce|Strongsauce]] ([[User talk:Strongsauce|talk]]) 22:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::I know that we don't know what he has to do with the story, I'm saying we should at least add something along the lines of "At the end of one of the trailers, Young Snake, or a lookalike, was seen. There is no information as of yet on how he fits into the game." I realize that's sloppy but it was on a whim but something along those lines should be added. [[User:Ruthless Xero|Ruthless Xero]] ([[User talk:Ruthless Xero|talk]]) 21:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::: The sentence you created is essentially putting into the article that there is no information about X and that is what is notable about X. If this "Young Snake" is not some sort of gag that was put into trailers then we will eventually find out why this Young Snake is in the game when it is released. [[User:Strongsauce|Strongsauce]] ([[User talk:Strongsauce|talk]])

:::::::So hold on, his name wouldn't be "Young" Snake, it would just be Solid Snake.[[User:Darius Sinclair|Darius Sinclair]] ([[User talk:Darius Sinclair|talk]]) 20:35, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

== Images ==

Everyone, stop changing the image. Keep like it is right now. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Guy1423|Guy1423]] ([[User talk:Guy1423|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Guy1423|contribs]]) 20:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Snapshots ==

Please consider adding this gallery as a list of relevant photos about [http://www.brawlsnapshots.com/snapshots/tag?order=score&tag=Snake Snake] [[User:RyanTMulligan|RyanTMulligan]] ([[User talk:RyanTMulligan|talk]]) 16:48, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Needs to be more about Solid Snake. ==

While I admit the current revision is good, it feels more like an overview of the Metal Gear franchise than an actual article about Solid Snake as a character. While I'm not suggesting to turn this article into a fictional Solid Snake biography, I think it would interesting to show the reader how the character progressed from a typical [[silent protagonist]] with no backstory to a fully realized character in ''Metal Gear Solid''. [[User:Jonny2x4|Jonny2x4]] ([[User talk:Jonny2x4|talk]]) 00:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:I think that's there in the article as far as the sources allow, we just need to keep streamlining and reducing the plot detail. - [[User:A Man In Black|A Man In <font color="black">'''Bl♟ck'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:A_Man_In_Black|conspire]] | [[Special:Contributions/A Man In Black|past ops]])</small> 18:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Image ==
We should put the MGS4 image of Solid Snake on! --[[User:Wikinerd20|Wikinerd20]] ([[User talk:Wikinerd20|talk]]) 22:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== Images ==

This article currently has an excess of non-free images.

<!--[[Image:Biehn snake comparison.JPG|thumb|left|Left:Solid Snake on the boxart for ''Metal Gear''. Right: Michael Biehn as Kyle Reese in ''The Terminator''.]]-->[[:Image:Biehn snake comparison.JPG|Left:Solid Snake on the boxart for ''Metal Gear''. Right: Michael Biehn as Kyle Reese in ''The Terminator''.]]

This image is actually two non-free images, one of which doesn't illustrate the subject of the article. We already have one image illustrating how Snake is based on 70s/80s action heroes, so the first image isn't needed. The second image isn't even of Snake, and was only included in the article to visually illustrate a ''supposed'' (and unsourced!) claim that the similarity between the two images was intended.

<!--[[Image:MGS2 Snake.PNG|thumb|left|Snake in ''MGS2'' was designed to look more rough than his self in ''MGS''.]]-->[[:Image:MGS2 Snake.PNG|Snake in ''MGS2'' was designed to look more rough than his self in ''MGS''.]]

This is redundant; we have two images (title image and MGS screenshot) illustrating the MGS/Shinkawa Snake design. We don't need a third.

Additionally, there's no source to support the claim that Snake was intended to look more ragged in MGS2; this is easy to infer, but not sourced.


Please, please, please, use images frugally, unless someone figures out how we can use free images in this article. - [[User:A Man In Black|A Man In <font color="black">'''Bl♟ck'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:A_Man_In_Black|conspire]] | [[Special:Contributions/A Man In Black|past ops]])</small> 18:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Other appearances: Dossier vs. Prose ==

Personally I think a Dossier approach is much more readable than a prose that basically reads like "Snake is in X with A and B. He is also in Y with C and D. And Snake makes an appearance in Z with E and F."
===Dossier approach===
Solid Snake has appeared in a number of other games, including other Konami games, and more unusually, under license in games developed and published by other companies, such as [[Sony Computer Entertainment|Sony]] and [[Nintendo]]. Here is a list of examples:

*''[[Policenauts]]''
:The ''Policenauts: Pilot Disk'' for the [[3DO Interactive Multiplayer|3DO]] and ''Policenauts: Private Collection'' for the PlayStation features early artwork by Yoji Shinkawa of Snake and Meryl, as well as a group shot of FOXHOUND commandos, from the then-unreleased ''Metal Gear Solid'' as an [[easter egg (computing)|easter egg]].
*''[[Boktai 2: Solar Boy Django]]''
:Solid Snake appears in the game as an unnamed character (his name header is filled with three question marks) who sells "blindboxes" to the player containing random items. He returns in ''[[Boktai 3: Sabata's Counterattack]]'', which was released only in Japan.
*''[[Evolution Skateboarding]]''
:Snake, along with [[Raiden (Metal Gear)|Raiden]], appears as [[hidden character]]s. The game includes two levels set on the Big Shell featured in ''Metal Gear Solid 2''. The Skateboarding [[minigame]] featured in the PS2 version of ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance]]'' is actually a demo of ''Evolution Skateboarding'' comprised exclusively of these elements.
*''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]''
:Solid Snake is not featured in the main game, but instead appears in a crossover with the ''[[Ape Escape]]'' monkeys in the "Snake vs. Monkey" minigame.
*''[[Ape Escape 3]]''
:A continuation of the above crossover, Snake appears in the "[[Ape Escape 3#Mesal Gear Solid|Mesal Gear Solid: Snake Escape]]"{{sic}} minigame, where he is taken captive by monkeys and rescued by Pipo Snake. In this appearance, Snake was voiced by [[Peter Lurie]] in the English version, instead of David Hayter.
*''[[DreamMix TV World Fighters]]''
:Appears as a hidden character in his outfits from ''Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance''.
*''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''
:He is the first third-party character included in the series, followed by [[Sega]]'s [[Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]. According to producer [[Masahiro Sakurai]], Snake's inclusion in the game was done under Kojima's request, who "practically begged" for Snake to be featured.<ref>{{cite web|url = http://kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/e306-super-smash-bros-brawl-qa-173071.php|title = E306: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Q&A|accessdate = 2007-09-18|last = Mcwhertor |first = Michael |date = 2006-05-11 |publisher = [[Kotaku]]}}</ref>
*''[[New International Track & Field]]''
: Appears in his ''Metal Gear Solid 2'' outfit and drawn in SD style by [[UDON]].<ref name=trackandfield>{{cite web|url=http://www.newtrackandfield.com/atg/characters|title=New International Track & Field Community - Characters}}</ref>

===Prose approach===
Solid Snake has appeared in a number of other games, including other Konami games, and more unusually, under license in games developed and published by other companies, such as [[Sony Computer Entertainment|Sony]] and [[Nintendo]].

Hideo Kojima makes a habit of referencing his previous work. In the ''[[Policenauts|Policenauts Pilot Disk]]'' for the [[3DO Interactive Multiplayer|3DO]] (later ported to the PlayStation as ''Policenauts: Private Collection'') features early conceptual illustration of Snake and Meryl Silverburgh, as well as a group shot of FOXHOUND commandos, from the then-unreleased ''Metal Gear Solid'' as an [[easter egg (computing)|easter egg]]. In the Kojima-produced ''[[Boktai 2: Solar Boy Django]]'' (and ''[[Boktai 3: Sabata's Counterattack]]''), Snake appears as an unnamed character who sells items to the player. Konami's ''[[Evolution Skateboarding]]'' features Snake and [[Raiden (Metal Gear)|Raiden]] as hidden characters, as well two stages set in the Big Shell (the Skateboarding minigame in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance]]'' is a demo of ''Evolution Skateboarding'' comprised exclusively of these elements). Solid Snake's name is also used as an alias by Gillian Seed in the [[MSX|MSX2]] [[console role playing game|RPG]] ''[[SD Snatcher]]''; as the name of a vehicle in the PlayStation racing game ''Speed King''; and as the name of a bar in ''Policenauts''.

Solid Snake also appears in both halves of a crossover between the ''[[Metal Gear (series)|Metal Gear]]'' and ''[[Ape Escape]]'' franchises: the ''[[Ape Escape]]'' monkeys appear with Solid Snake in the "Snake vs. Monkey" minigame featured in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater]]''. In turn, Snake (voiced by [[Peter Lurie]] instead of David Hayter, his usual voice actor) appears in the corresponding "[[Ape Escape 3#Mesal Gear Solid|Mesal Gear Solid]]"{{sic}} minigame featured in ''[[Ape Escape 3]]'', where he is rescued by Pipo Snake.

He has also appeared in a pair of cross-company fighting games. In ''[[DreamMix TV World Fighters]]'', Solid Snake appears as a playable character alongside other third-party characters such as [[Bomberman]] and Convoy ([[Optimus Prime]]). Similarly, in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', a popular fighting game from [[Nintendo]], Solid Snake appeared alongside Nintendo-owned characters such as [[Mario]], [[Donkey Kong (character)|Donkey Kong]], and [[Pikachu]], and [[Sega]]'s [[Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]. According to producer [[Masahiro Sakurai]], Snake's inclusion in ''Smash Bros.'' was done under Kojima's request, who "practically begged" for Snake to be featured.<ref>{{cite web|url = http://kotaku.com/gaming/nintendo/e306-super-smash-bros-brawl-qa-173071.php|title = E306: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Q&A|accessdate = 2007-09-18|last = Mcwhertor |first = Michael |date = 2006-05-11 |publisher = [[Kotaku]]}}</ref>

Snake has been confirmed to be a playable character in the upcoming [[Nintendo DS]] game, ''[[New International Track & Field]]'', alongside fellow Konami characters such as [[Sparkster]] and [[Simon Belmont]], as well as new original characters.<ref name=trackandfield>{{cite web|url=http://www.newtrackandfield.com/atg/characters|title=New International Track & Field Community - Characters}}</ref>

===Recommendations===

== Unexplained categories ==

I'm about to remove the [[:Category:Fictional characters who can turn invisible|invisibility]] and [[:Category:Fictional martial artists|martial artist]] categories since the article does not support the inclusion of these, as required per [[WP:ORIGINAL]] and other policies. I realize they're probably true if you've played the games, however, [[WP:VERIFIABILITY|Wikipedia functions on verifiability not truth]]. So can someone confirm these or should they be taken off? [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] <small>([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]])</small> 03:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:Dumb, dumb, dumb. Removed. - [[User:A Man In Black|A Man In <font color="black">'''Bl♟ck'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:A_Man_In_Black|conspire]] | [[Special:Contributions/A Man In Black|past ops]])</small> 12:35, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks for looking into this. [[User:Sesshomaru|Lord Sesshomaru]] <small>([[User talk:Sesshomaru|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sesshomaru|edits]])</small> 17:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== 'David'? ==

Am I the only person who thinks Konami was just being silly when they had Solid Snake tell Meryl (or Otacon) his name was "David" at the end of ''Metal Gear Solid''? Konami has a rather sizable track record of doing all sorts of silly things in their games. Remember the Vulcan Raven action figure in ''Metal Gear Solid 2''? Or the mention of the [[MSX]] computer system in ''Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake''? (At least in the original MSX2 version.) That's just my take on this, anyway... ~ <font color="#00BF00">Joseph Collins</font> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[user:Joseph Collins|U]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Joseph Collins|T]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Joseph Collins|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 18:04, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well its not a reference to "David Hayter", if that's what you're implying, since the character was already called "David" in the Japanese script. David is a reference to the main character ''[[2001: A Space Odyssey]]'' (Hal Emmerich being named after HAL 9000 himself). Its also a possible reference to ''[[Policenauts]]'', where Meryl had a partner named Dave Forrest. The point is moot, since David is the name EVA/Big Mama refers to Snake as. [[User:Jonny2x4|Jonny2x4]] ([[User talk:Jonny2x4|talk]]) 18:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The script would have been completed long before any English language VA's were even auditioned. It's not a joke. Besides as mentioned above EVA refers to him as David in the disgracefully bad MGS4. [[User:The Bread|<font color ="#FF0000">'''†he Bread'''</font>]][[User talk:The Bread|<sup><font color="#3FFF00">3000</font></sup>]] 12:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::Well...that shut me up. Thanks for clearing that up. ~ <font color="#00BF00">Joseph Collins</font> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[user:Joseph Collins|U]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[User talk:Joseph Collins|T]]<nowiki>|</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Joseph Collins|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> 04:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Old Snake ==
Just to clear up doubts, is Old Snake an actual codename or it's simply a nickname to refer to the fact that Snake is old? [[User:Leader Vladimir|Leader Vladimir]]

It's just a nickname. Coined by Drebin, I believe. [[Special:Contributions/83.71.43.124|83.71.43.124]] ([[User talk:83.71.43.124|talk]]) 13:03, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I thought Meryl Coindet in Europe [[User:Eternal Pink|♥Fighting for charming Love♥]] ([[User talk:Eternal Pink|talk]]) 01:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Eye Color ==
Is there any explanation on Snake's eye color? In The Twin Snakes, his eye color is green but in the MGS4 box art, his eyes are like a blue/gray color. --[[User:CommanderWiki35|CommanderWiki35]] ([[User talk:CommanderWiki35|talk]]) 05:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Big Boss's eyes are blue (mentioned during the torture scene in MGS3 "I don't like those pretty blue eyes of his", or something) and Solid Snake's a clone of Big Boss, so I presume their eye colour is the same... [[Special:Contributions/83.71.43.124|83.71.43.124]] ([[User talk:83.71.43.124|talk]]) 13:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

== Fictional Character Bio ==
We need a short character bio for the character, since we are defining Solid Snake as a fictional character. Every other fictional character on Wikipedia has one, except maybe Solid Snake. We're leaving too much out in this article. [[User:Grifter tm|Grifter tm]] ([[User talk:Grifter tm|talk]]) 08:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:What would such a bio include? - [[User:A Man In Black|A Man In <font color="black">'''Bl♟ck'''</font>]] <small>([[User talk:A_Man_In_Black|conspire]] | [[Special:Contributions/A Man In Black|past ops]])</small> 22:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
::I know this is OT, but the term "fictional character biography" is a redundant oxymoron. "character overview" or "fictional history" is better. [[User:Jonny2x4|Jonny2x4]] ([[User talk:Jonny2x4|talk]]) 06:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

== Nationality/Ethnicity Solid Snake is part Japanese! ==

Straight from MGS4 cut scene with Big Mama (Eva)


==History==
*WARNING SPOILERS* <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:MastaGunZ|MastaGunZ]] ([[User talk:MastaGunZ|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MastaGunZ|contribs]]) 01:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
It was founded in the 14th century by [[Genoa|Genoese]] colonists, who employed large numbers of workmen (Calfats) in repairing ships. This industry gave its name. In 1854 a [[Russia]]n force was defeated at Calafat by the Turks under [[Ahmed Pasha]], who surprised the enemy's camp.


==Population==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fkZf0KL1U4 @ around 1:30-1:50
*1900: 7,113
*2000: 21,227


==Transport==
It says they successfully produced a fertilized egg and it came from Dr. Clark's assistant, A healthy Japanese Woman.
Calafat lies on the river corridor VII-Danube and the pan-European corridor IV which starts Germany and ends in Istanbul and Thessaloniki [http://www.unece.org/trans/main/ter/Countries/Corridors/corr4.jpg]. The city is at crossroads of DN56, DN56A, DN55A and E79. Between the city of Calafat and neighbour, Vidin (Bulgaria), standing links realized by specially equipped vessels (tanks), and there are plans to build a bridge over the Danube in the area called Başcov(whose construction will be completed in 2010) by the Spanish company FCC, the project of constructing a bridge in the area Calafat-Vidin dates from the year 1925. Road traffic between Vidin and Calafat doubles every year, so that became necessary to construct a bridge that will have four lanes of traffic road, a railway line, a line with the width of two meters for bikes and a pavement for pedestriens. The bridge will have a total length of 1,971 m and it will cost over 100 mil.euros.


==Newspaper==
Vulcan Raven then says "Blood from the east flow within your veins"
Calafat have more city newspapers. One of them is called "Ziarul De Calafat[http://www.ziaruldecalafat.ro]", which also is maintained online.
It has usefull daily information about the city of Calafat and the area around it. If you want to read or know more about it, take a visit.


Should this be updated?


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The third image in the article is not very good. It's a limited view of Snake, and really doesn't tell players anything that the other images don't. - [[User:A Link to the Past|A Link to the Past]] [[User talk:A Link to the Past|(talk)]] 00:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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Calafat
Municipality
Coat of arms of Calafat
Coat of arms
Country Romania
CountyDolj County
StatusMunicipality
Government
 • MayorPetre Trăistaru (Social Democratic Party)
Population
 (2000)
 • Total21,227
Time zoneUTC+2 (EET)
 • Summer (DST)UTC+3 (EEST)

Calafat is a city in Dolj County, Romania, on the river Danube, opposite the Bulgarian city of Vidin, to which it is linked by ferryboat. The construction of the Calafat-Vidin Bridge is planned between the two cities.

History

It was founded in the 14th century by Genoese colonists, who employed large numbers of workmen (Calfats) in repairing ships. This industry gave its name. In 1854 a Russian force was defeated at Calafat by the Turks under Ahmed Pasha, who surprised the enemy's camp.

Population

  • 1900: 7,113
  • 2000: 21,227

Transport

Calafat lies on the river corridor VII-Danube and the pan-European corridor IV which starts Germany and ends in Istanbul and Thessaloniki [1]. The city is at crossroads of DN56, DN56A, DN55A and E79. Between the city of Calafat and neighbour, Vidin (Bulgaria), standing links realized by specially equipped vessels (tanks), and there are plans to build a bridge over the Danube in the area called Başcov(whose construction will be completed in 2010) by the Spanish company FCC, the project of constructing a bridge in the area Calafat-Vidin dates from the year 1925. Road traffic between Vidin and Calafat doubles every year, so that became necessary to construct a bridge that will have four lanes of traffic road, a railway line, a line with the width of two meters for bikes and a pavement for pedestriens. The bridge will have a total length of 1,971 m and it will cost over 100 mil.euros.

Newspaper

Calafat have more city newspapers. One of them is called "Ziarul De Calafat[2]", which also is maintained online. It has usefull daily information about the city of Calafat and the area around it. If you want to read or know more about it, take a visit.


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