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Pabopa (2nd time)

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Filed: 11:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

The pattern of the ongoing canvassing by Japanese 2channel forum at South Korean cultural claims is just same as those of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uriginal and Talk:Sea of Japan. I think almost same people who participated in the two reappear at the AFD with their same/new accounts. Michael Friedrich who created the article of Uriginal canvassed the AFD to Japanese Wiki, did the same thing to the web forum again. Since several people there suspected him, he left a note at his talk page that nobody believes that he is the real/same person who left a note for the canvassing.[13] I also found something contradictory on his identity from this talk page. According to his introduction, he is supposed to be a native English speaker in Australia[14], but he also said that I've lived in Japan for more than 20 years.[15] Michael's IP is Japanese dion.ad.jp ISP, which is pretty static. He sometimes appeared as the anon.59.141.42.53 (talk · contribs)[16][17][18][19][20] Besides, almost every members who opposed to deletion of Uriginal, reappeared these days after their long break. Among them, Robert Houdini claims that he is a half-Korean and can speak Korean just like Michael Friedrich. The editor also uses the same ISP along with a school ip of University of Tokyo. He is also obsessed with the Uriginal.[21][22][23][24][25][26] In addition, NAZONAZO and Harada 3nosuke who participated in a poll held at Talk:Sea of Japan on Feb. showed up at the current AFD. When NAZONAZO took a vote at Sea of Japan, Friedriech did not appear while NAZONAZO did not even cast a vote at the current AFD. His argument of "Chosun Ilbo and JoongAng Ilbo are just identical to Michael's claims at the AFD.[27][28] At Prince Shōtoku on which Friedreich edit warred yesterday, NAZONAZO left the similar claim.[29][30] Given the info, I think Michael Friedrich is same as NAZONAZO and Robert Houndini.

On the other hand, Propastop (talk · contribs)'s first contribution was giving a 3RR warning to Kuebie (talk · contribs) whom he never met with the accont [31] when the socks were edit warring over multiple Korean related articles including Gaya confederacy‎. He reappeared since the AFD opened.[32] The user is harassing me as copying my comments and being dishonest about my editing.[33][34] I believe the user is either Pabopa, or one of other indef.blocked sockpuppeters due to my previous RFCU. He uses Twinkle[35] in contrast to his new registering and is very knowledgeable of "English Wikipedia" policies. Besides, he only appears on articles that Pabopa's socks showed up and did identical edits. When Propasto tried to remove NPOV/SYNTHES tags[36], Wahtsay (talk · contribs) tried to insert the same tags to other articles containing Japanese war crimes and history book controversies.[37][38][39], but soon all were reverted by an admin. User:Eichikiyama's insistence at Talk:Tribute are almost identical to Wahtsay's opinion at Talk:Yakiniku. Currently, Propastops is blocked for 3RR violation, and SPA, Wahtsay (talk · contribs) knows pretty well about me and complicate Wiki policies and takes over the job of collecting Korean editors without any evidences as if he were Propastaop.[40] I think the user is doing fishing expedition.[41] Besides, the user added the same material[42] that Pabopa's socks and Propastops tried to insert Baekje, and Gaya.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mochi (talk · contribs) has been following me and he admitted that he is involved in 2channel. He seems occasionally to edit English Wikipedia, but always followed me whenever I edit Japan-Korea related articles.[43] Everybody at the 2channel have talked about my changed screen ID, but he feigned not to know it.[44][45][46][47][48] He said he did not visit 2channel these days, but I think he blatantly lies just like his initial denial of his wikistalking. He may have sock accounts associated with aforementioned accounts given that his apt timing whenever a matter related me comes up.

After Watermint's meatpuppeting with Opp2 (talk · contribs), Jjok (talk · contribs), Gettystein (talk · contribs), Forestfarmer (talk · contribs), Watermint seems to edit with his sock ips and colludes with other Japanese editors to drive pro-Korean editors to violate 3RR.[49] I think he created his sock and other accounts show similar patterns of the aforementioned editors. --Caspian blue (talk) 11:36, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'll tell you the truth. It is true that my IP is "59.141.42.53." And User:Robert Houdini used the same ID. But actually, Robert is not me. It is my brother, who was using the same computer because there was only one in our house. But he has not been here since last summer. He graduated from university and went to the States. You can see that he has not logged in since last summer except that he edited his own page on the 31st of August this year. It was because he was back during his summer holyday. That's all.
If Robert were my sock puppet, I would have used him here and when the edit wars occured. But Robert did not appear, did he? That is the evidence that Robert is not me although we used the same IP. I have no intention to use sock puppets. Robert is not my sock. And when I used my IP, I only forgot to log in. I am usually careful.
As for NAZONAZO, it is not me, I promise. Caspian blue said something about the poll held at Talk:Sea of Japan, but I did not even know there was a poll. I edited wiki only twice in February. If I were his/her sock, why would I have had to refrain from voting then? And as for the article of Prince Shotoku, I think s/he saw the same website because the site comes at the top when you google "図画見聞誌"[50] or "今則臣属高麗也"[51]. If I were him, why would I have posted such a proposal as this one?
As for my introduction, I lived in Australia at the age of 10 to 15. I regard myself as Japanese Australian although my nationality is not Australian. I live in Japan now. That's why I said I had lived in Japan for more than 20 years. I often visited Japan even when I lived in Australia.
I have no intention to use sock puppets. It is true that Robert used the same ID as I did but he is not me or my sock puppet and he is away now. NAZONAZO definitely has nothing to do with me. This is the truth.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 18:10, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I replied to your talk page with this[52] which tells you some explanation sounds like "brother theory".--Caspian blue (talk) 19:28, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well first of all this page is getting very cluttered with a whole pile of things all mixed together. As it involves a lot of people I was partly through some of the rest, but I'll need some clearer reasoning which pairs up the people with each other in smaller sets and more clearly. This is becoming a bit of a mess. It's quicker if you just land on my talk page and start a thread under the CU section with the groupings in a more well-separated set. YellowMonkey (choose Australia's next top model) 09:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

++plus++ I add new users. Below list is compiled by me. Some of the edits have been disruptive and may turn out to have been avoidance of 3RR or the block. all of these accounts may be linked with Pabopa or Michael Friedrich.

If you have time, can you check this too? Kao no Nai Tsuki (talk) 13:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Confirmed Pabopa (talk · contribs) = Propastop (talk · contribs) = Newmenber (talk · contribs) = Wahtsay (talk · contribs) = Ozzyzzo (talk · contribs) = Goolbenjin (talk · contribs) = Benleibyc (talk · contribs) = Ccpccp (talk · contribs) = TEconv (talk · contribs) =Webcamera (talk · contribs) = Coreecoree (talk · contribs) = {{User|Venissee
 Confirmed Michael Friedrich (talk · contribs) =Robert Houdini (talk · contribs) . YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 03:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But I told you that he's been away since last summer. You can see that he has not edited wikipedia since then.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 03:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The "Brother Theory" has been a favorite excuse for sockpuppeters. If Michael Freidrich also has used University of Tokyo, well I don't buy his lying any more. Moreover, the two people has participated in many polls together, so it constitutes at least abusive meatpuppetry and sockpuppetry. Checkuser, could you also tell the rest of listed people? --Caspian blue (talk) 04:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If he were me, why didn't I vote as Robert Houdini here? Why didn't I use him to revert edits when I was involved in edit wars? He hasn't appeared for more than a year. I never used Robert as my sock. I have no intention to use a sock.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 10:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Pabapa's socks always has been lying about his relation to Pabopa and strongly denied it until Checkusers detect such lying.--10:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
I really have no relation with Pabopa. I've been editing wikipedia far longer than him/her and Checkuser did not say I am the same as Pabapa.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 14:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Honda-Hawk (talk · contribs), Zerosen (talk · contribs) could you also look at these obvious SPAs? --Caspian blue (talk) 12:18, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • It sounds like you accuse anyone against you no matter what.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 14:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't even know why you're still active. Sock.--Caspian blue (talk) 10:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Please be civil. I have no relation with Pabopa. Robert is away for a year. I'm not using a sock although I'm wearing socks.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 11:10, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • LOL, you accused that I filed any editor against my edits. The accused ones are almost SPAs. This is a request file for users, not for a discussion page. Why don't use the talk page of here? Well, the two accounts related to you were abusively meatpuppeting in the past and turns out to be idential. What needs more? Caspian blue (talk) 11:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Pabopa

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Filed: 19:30, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Same edits with same habits on same articles/ Possibly block evasion as well.[54]

--Caspian blue (talk) 19:30, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Pabopa is not only blocked for his edit warring but also has been topic-banned for disruptive anti-Korean editing for 2 month from today. A new account Teconv (talk · contribs) appears to edit Tribute which is extended article of one of which Pabopa made edit wars. If Teconv is Pabopa, the user is evading the given sanction. --Caspian blue (talk) 04:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • When I removed a claim with no citation, Northwest1202 inserted a Japanese version of JoongAng Ilbo news to the claim on Prostitution in Japan.[55] It is proved irrelevant to the claim, then suddenly an OCN ISP user inserted a news from the "same newspaper" to Prostitution in South Korea.[56] This is highly unlikely that they're not the same one. So Northwest1202 is using OCN is undoubted. Besides, Northwest1202 appeared to have the same agenda on rice cultivation right after the same ISP anon vandalised Japanese cuisine like the below,

--Caspian blue (talk) 20:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I add one suspected user at here.

exactly same behavior of Pabopa (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). [57][58]

He possibly use mutiple IDs and Accounts. Manacpowers (talk) 05:53, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my god. 218.12.194.86 (talk+ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) is a open Proxy ip in China. you can find this ip at here proxy list. [59] wow. really sneaky.... Please adminstrator, Please block this disruptive mustile accounts, sock, proxy IP user. Manacpowers (talk) 06:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Additional information needed You have provided evidence for checking Pabopa and Teconv. What is the relevance of the other user names? Thatcher 01:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Answer I provide evidence for Northwest and Webcamera as well. Pabopa, Teconv, Webcamera are new editors and Northwest is a returned editor whose editing style is very similar to Blue011011, and Jazz81089. --Caspian blue (talk) 01:23, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional info Then, Teconv evades his block sanction and topic-ban. This is writings of Northwest1202 and Blue011011. The three have similar names too.
  • Sorry I don't have no interest in you.>Caspian blue. Don't insistent me, any more. Northwest1202 (talk) 16:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[60]
  • do you have any contrary evidences of it? >Flying tiger --Northwest1202 (talk) 19:57, 26 July 2008 (UTC) [61]
  • Don't delete authoritative secondary sources, if you don't want to read them. >Flying tiger Blue011011 (talk) 16:40, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[62][reply]
--Caspian blue (talk) 01:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Confirmed Pabopa, Webcamera, Teconv, also Tyoron (talk · contribs); this is the same person as Factmen (talk · contribs) who was previously blocked. Thatcher 01:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Likely that Northwest1202, Blue011011 and Jazz81089 are the same person. Thatcher 01:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Clerk note: Confirmed accounts all indef blocked as Logitech95 (talk · contribs) and tagged as such, Northwest1202, Blue011011 and Jazz81089 have all been indef blocked as well. Tiptoety talk 01:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's impossible to say one way or the other. crystal ball CheckUser is not a crystal ball. Thatcher 04:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

and, i add some user at here,too. 218.218.132.9 (talk+ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) simlar edit with Pabopa[67][68] once Pabopa indefinite banned. this IP appear. Bentecbye (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)[69][70]

218.218.132.9 (talk+ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) simlar edit with Pabopa[71][72] once Pabopa indefinite banned. this IP appear. Bentecbye (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)[73][74] Pabopa was a only one person try to change like this style.[75]

Bentecbye are possibly another sock of Pabopa. even other user realized this.[76] Pabopa banned wikipedia editing indefinitely. Bentecbye did exactly same edit like Pabopa. Pabopa was a only one person change kowtow article like that.

It is possibly, Bentecbye is banned user Pabopa. after banned, he created new account. and he using IP and accounts same time for avoid 3r violation. Pabopa was a only one person who stick to injo kowtow.[79][80] Manacpowers (talk) 11:56, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • On technical evidence alone,  Possible or maybe  Likely that Bentecbye is Pabopa. 218.218.132.9 is a different editor who has not been named here (yet). Thatcher 13:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

add new possibly sock of Pabopa here.

this "new" account suddenly appeared, and he/she is a exactly same behavior with indefinite banned user Pabopa(his sock account is a Webcamera).[81][82]
Pabopa was a only one person who stick to "injo kowtow".Manacpowers (talk) 20:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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