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Daddy Kindsoul

Hey man, I notice you're having trouble with Daddy Kindsoul too. Let me guess, he continually reverts your edits to suit his own purposes? Believe me, he's been doing the same on an article I'm involved with. I just wish I knew what we could do to get him sorted out. He says he's doing it all for "the benefit of Wikipedia", but as we know he's blatently not, so what can we do? PeeJay 11:16, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pearl Jam vs. NME

Hey, I read in an article from 1992 that said the NME lambasted Pearl Jam and said they were "trying to steal money from young alternative kids' pockets". Can you find anything about it? I'm trying to expand upon early criticism of the band over in the Pearl Jam article. Thanks. WesleyDodds 11:08, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you revert this article (without explanation) to incorrect capitalisation and infobox formatting? --Mel Etitis (Talk) 22:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Triptych, May-June 1973

Updated DYK query On 10 May, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Triptych, May-June 1973, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.
--howcheng {chat} 18:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kurt Cobain

I would appreciate your opinions on this section. Quite ungodly, but CloudNine and I are going to try and it, uh, not crap. Any thoughts on how to keep this as NPOV as possible?

In other news: I'm taking a short break from editing The Cure but I'll get back to that within a week. The reason for my brief break is that I've run into some problems on the page where it seems someone possibly affliated with the band keeps trying to alter material about the exit of Perry Bamonte and Roger O'Donnell in a very POV manner. Reverting POV edits from several different IPs gets old pretty quickly. WesleyDodds 04:13, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gorecki

Yeah, I can try to help out with the symphony a little bit. Gosh, Wiki's coverage of modern Polish concert music is really scant - that section in Music of Poland could use a serious overhaul, and some of those names really need articles (Roman Palester!) Two books worth looking into are Adrian Thomas's "Polish Music since Szymanowski" (Oxford, 2005) and Bernard Jakobson's "A Polish Renaissance" (1996). Chubbles 18:24, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious, why are you doing the Gorecki work on your userspace rather than on the article itself? Chubbles 18:50, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Have you checked his Grove entry? That should have decent biographical info, and will point you toward other sources. The two sources above should help with that, too. Chubbles 18:57, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! Chubbles 20:31, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Triptych

Work "The triptych is a portrait of Dyer dying" into the first paragraph of the lead. Some items like East End and maybe even triptych should be Wikilinked. I have no problem with the "Background section"; since Dyer doesn't have his own article this seems the ideal place to go into detail about him. In the line "Although his arched back, thighs and legs are, according to the art critic Colm Tóibín 'lovingly painted', Dyer is clearly a broken man," the last part ("clearly") needs a cite or shoudl be rephrased. Are Yard and Russell critics too? And how do the black triptychs relate to the topic aside from similar subject? Mention the Sotheby's auction later in the article as well, in addition to the lead.

The main thing that seems to be missing is further critical reaction, particularly in the years since its initial debut. WesleyDodds 08:25, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from one citation request which I added to the article, I have no problem with the article's level of citation. Should I have any suggestions for improvement I'll give you a bell; good luck in its FAC (that's definitely going to be successful). LuciferMorgan 18:12, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re:Three Studies

Certainly, I have given it a quick spell check just now (see diff) but I have changed the spelling in a number of quotes. If they contained spelling errors in the actual quote please undo my change, use [sic] after something quoted with incorrect spelling to indicate to readers that you realise the spelling is incorrect but the quote would need to be changed otherwise; eg. "it was rianing[sic] cats and dogs". I'll give it another, more thorough look later today because I need to go now. This artice is really good. Should be ready for FAC soon. Good work, James086Talk | Email 00:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I put it through a spellchecker, so it's not quite right to say that I found them ;) I noticed that there is "centralised" in British spelling and "fiber board" which is American spelling; WP:ENGVAR says it should be consistent throughout. I'm not sure which units should be used in the final section for the dimensions of the painting so I added cm in brackets. Also I think it could use more internal links (Wikipedia:Build the web and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)). I'm rather pressed for time lately (I have exams coming up) so I can't really make long edits, but I can point things out. Sorry if I sound overly criticising, I don't mean to be, after all, it is a really good article. James086Talk | Email 14:37, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query On 16 May, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Roman Palester, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
--Carabinieri 21:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Would you take a look at "Eyes of the Insane" sometime for me please? I wish to nominate it for FAC soon, and would rather address any concerns you may have prior to my nomination instead of during it. Any help is welcomed, and thanks for your time :) LuciferMorgan 14:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help, which is real appreciated. There were no typos, so no worries. As concerns your second point, I meant that Slayer were on tour and so others were contacted to produce the film - I'm not sure if you can reword this in any way. Thanks once again :) LuciferMorgan 21:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Three Studies

Right now I want to get breakfast; give me an hour or so and then I'll get to copyediting it. WesleyDodds 13:16, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"The work summarizes themes explored in Bacon's previous paintings." WesleyDodds 16:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, can you verify something from the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" article? SandyGeorgia pointed out that the NME link used to reference the line "In 2002, NME awarded the song the number two spot on its list of '100 Greatest Singles of All Time'" is dead now, and she had some concerns about the date. Can you verify this item and replace the citation with one of the actual print issue? WesleyDodds 20:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sandy found the link on a web archive [1]; she mainly was concerned about the date. I see what she means (there's two different dates listed on that page), but I think it's clear from the context of the article that the 2002 date is correct. WesleyDodds 20:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I figured it out. Turns out the 2006 date is the screenshot date. I went to the NME site right now and that spot that had the 2006 date is used to display whatever today's date is. WesleyDodds 20:57, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I like to refrain from casting votes in FAC. I'm fine making comments and suggestions during the process, but I feel uncomfortable taking declarative positions because it is such a delicate and important process; a "support" or "object" is a rather definitive investment of faith that I like to make only if I am 100 percent certain of my position (I know that sounds a little silly). Nevertheless, I am leaning towards "Support" on this article and will vote accordingly once some prose issues in the "Background" section are cleared up. I'll list the parts I have questions about in the FAC within the day. WesleyDodds 21:53, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Emsworth

I just posted this to Yomangani, and thought you might have some ideas as well. Cheers, Marskell 20:55, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The **** or the real God**** ****ing ****? No doubt I was ****ing annoyed at the time, but I'm not sure what you're talking about now :). Probably for the best.
You know what's funny, Emsworth's articles and a lot of the apparently difficult FARs probably take four or five hours to cite—if you've got one of those cards that let's you into a good university library. I had one for four years, to one of the top three libraries in NA, and never really thought about it. Where I am now, it's literally impossible to cite an Emsworth article. Take nothing for granted!
If you do want to help with his bunch, I'd suggest quietly adopting for yourself and working it up to standard. I posted that long thread thinking just three or four people taking an extra half-hour of their Wiki time a day could save a few in short order. But I would say that, doing none of the work myself ;). Cheers, Marskell 21:19, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]