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I get distracted sometimes.

Stolen from Kross, who stole it from -asx-, who stole it from Redwolf24, who stole it from Linuxbeak, who stole it from an old nun.

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You archived!

You archived, the Apocalypse is coming! :-O --Jedi6-(need help?) 03:26, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The wiki hit a million articles, GWB was elected president twice, Redwolf24 burned out - these are all portents and signs! Don't blame me, the messenger, for it was written that they shall have eyes, and not see articles, ears and not hear ogg files... --maru (talk) contribs 03:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Next up on the Apocalypse countdown: Willy on Wheels becomes an admin! Jedi6-(need help?) 03:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, that happened last year. It kept the Wikipedia Index in a tizzy for weeks! --maru (talk) contribs 03:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey he was over the 75% support mark. Wikipedia:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense/April Fools' Day 2005/Willy on Wheels for admin :-) Jedi6-(need help?) 03:41, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, and that was exactly why the policy wonks went crazy attacking the process wonks and vice versa. Quite a flamewar! --maru (talk) contribs 03:46, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Awww. I missed all the fun :-( If I tried to do that I would probably be blocked on spot. Jedi6-(need help?) 03:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Probably! Heck, your username already looks like a sock (I can just imagine another admin looking at it and going, "Hmm. I wonder what happened to the other 5 Jedi?"). --maru (talk) contribs 03:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well Jedi1 died of dehydration, Jedi2's page was moved to Jedi4's page by Willy on Wheels which caused them both to gang up on Jedi3. Then Jedi5 proceeded to destroy them both by tricking them into starting a wheel war over a userbox. Finally one day Jedi5's apprentice Jedi6 overthrew him when he wasn't looking. Jedi6-(need help?) 04:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If I became your apprentice... would I be able to save Padme? --maru (talk) contribs 04:15, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes but you must give into your anger. You must kill your former master and friend. Just make sure that if Padme comes to plead to you and you find your former master with her, Don't force choke her, you can't believe what happened last time. Jedi6-(need help?) 04:25, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I... must kill Jon Hart? But what about Deckiller? --maru (talk) contribs 04:31, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Don't you worry about Deckiller, muhuhaha. Jedi6-(need help?) 05:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, my master. He is either with us or against us. --maru (talk) contribs 17:13, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You archive and then Wikipedia suffers a major power failure and is down for 6 hours. Coincidence? Jedi6-(need help?) 02:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can't prove anything- the power failure happened the next day, and there is no possible consequence one day later that could explain it, so I am dismayed at your weckless weckless accusations. --maru (talk) contribs 02:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is with great reluctance that I have agreed to this calling. I love editing … I love Wikipedia. The power you give me I will lay down when this (power) crisis has abated. And as my first act with this new authority, I will create a Grand Army of the Wiki to counter the increasing threats of Wookieepedia." --Jedi6-(need help?) 03:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So this is how fancruft dies... to applause and laughter. --maru (talk) contribs 03:33, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I need your help son… I am counting on you to be the eyes, ears and voice of the Wiki. Marudubshinki , I am appointing you to be my personal representative on the Administrators' noticeboard. --Jedi6-(need help?) 03:45, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Surely the Cabal will make me an administrator now! --maru (talk) contribs 03:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Admin or bureaucrat. Jedi6-(need help?) 03:57, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What did you say? --maru (talk) contribs 04:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm offering you power, ultimate power. --Jedi6-(need help?) 04:21, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Real Ultimate Power?
/me gasps
You're the Vandal Lord the Cabal has been searching for! --maru (talk) contribs 04:23, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I know what has been troubling you . . . Listen to me. Don't continue to be a pawn of Jimbo Wales and the Cabal! Ever since I've known you, you've been searching for a life greater than that of an ordinary Admin . . . a life of significance, of conscience Jedi6-(need help?) 04:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're POVed! --maru (talk) contribs 04:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are you going to ban me? Jedi6-(need help?) 04:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would certainly like to! --maru (talk) contribs 04:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I know you would. I can feel your POV. It gives you focus, makes you revert. Jedi6-(need help?) 06:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I am going to turn you over to the cabal! --maru (talk) contribs 14:17, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course you should. But you're not sure of their intentions, are you? What if I am right and they are plotting to take over Wikipedia, or worse? Jedi6-(need help?) 23:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will quickly verify your unsourced edit. --maru (talk) contribs 23:32, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You have great barnstars, Marudubshinki. Know the power of editcountitis. The power to save Padme.
I am not going anywhere. You have time to unblock my fate. Perhaps you'll reconsider and help me rule the wiki for the good of the Internet. --Jedi6-(need help?) 23:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pfft, don't listen to him. I've seen them come and go, those snot-nosed punks who decimate entire planets and kill millions. Happens all the time. Like this last guy, he actually ended up trying to convert his son into a Sith! Would you imagine that pervert... _-M o P-_ 05:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Wikipedia's downtime

What happened last night...? Wikipedia was inactive for quite awhile; nine hours I believe. --ZeroTalk 04:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There was a power failure. --Jedi6-(need help?) 05:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Downtime. --maru (talk) contribs 14:14, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Two recent deletions

Hey Maru, why did you delete Zebadiah W. Ziegenbein and Zeb Ziegenbein? There's not a word of explanation in their deletion logs. Thanks. - the.crazy.russian τ ç ë 06:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy Ivan, because they were totally non-notable. --maru (talk) contribs 14:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Your BeBox question

In case you don't have random geeky articles on your watchlist, you are hereby notified of my attempt to answer your question at Talk:BeBox. Hope that helps :) --Qviri (talk) 17:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't have it watchlisted- 1700 articles is quite enough! (One must draw a line somewhere). I'm glad the answer is a good one, and a geekport isn't... something else I feared it might be. --maru (talk) contribs 23:25, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Got reply from Wayne Muromoto (regarding Kaijo)

Hey. Got a PM from above mentioned dude today: "Hello Fred (?),

I just happened to have salvaged the jo notes from my office disaster...and found the source rather quickly, considering the mess things are in right now. I probably took the date of 1629 from an article in Hiden Koryu Bujutsu, 1991, v. 6, titled "Muso Gonnosuke Katsuyoshi," by Osano Jun.
Osano gave the date of publication of the "Kaijo Monogatari" as 1629, or Ganmon 6. According to Osano, Yoshikawa Eiji probably read it and developed the chapter on Muso Gonnosuke in his "Miyamoto Musashi."
Wayne Muromoto"

So that is his source. I think we should make it as you suggested, that "this author claims 1629" and "that author claims 1666" type of entry. I'll get right on it :) --Fred26 08:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Any chance that you could get that article from Hiden Joryu Bujutsu? If you can't, and if it is in English, my local research library can get a copy for me. --maru (talk) contribs 18:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ignoring guidelines language?

After our discussion on IRC tonight, I wonder if you would like to help me work on some language for WP:POL that would help describe the status of guidelines better? I've been operating under the misapprehension that:

  • A guideline is something that is: (1) actionable and (2) authorized by consensus. Guidelines are not set in stone and should be treated with common sense and the occasional exception. Amendments to a guideline should be discussed on its talk page, not on a new page - although it's generally acceptable to edit a guideline to improve it.

meant that it would not be acceptable to completely ignore a guideline (especially when doing mass edits) that you disagreed with. I think the above quote is really misleading given what you told me on IRC. I bet others don't understand it either, so it'd be great to get the policy language more in line with reality. So can I pick your brain to try to write a proposal, or do you already have some ideas about how it could be rewritten to be more correct? Thanks! --TreyHarris 05:52, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just link to WP:IAR. :) --maru (talk) contribs 05:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Heh, whoopsie

(re) Had no clue Machiavelli had written a book called The Art of War. D'oh! --EVula 18:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't blame you in the least! It is a fairly obscure work, and The Prince deserves its greater fame (I've read NM's Art of War, and frankly, it stunk as badly as your typical antique treatise on war. Not nearly as good as Sun Tzu's.) --maru (talk) contribs 05:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Thank you! (re: Wikipedia essay)

Dear Maru:

Thank you for your suggestions.

Yes, my essay is absolutely, 100% positively under the GDFL, and I personally cannot think of any scenario or reason why it isn't GDFL.

You have my permission to do anything to my essay that you think is necessary. (since it's GDFL). Speaking of "open-source" I think I should probably also give you a copy of the original "source" M$Word file. But right now I'm home on a dial-up Internet connection so doing anything fancy on-line gets tedious for me. I'll take care of this once I'm back at school.

Again, thank you. You may do anything to my essay. --Shuo Xiang 18:06, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response. I deleted your test.pdf file, since it wasn't doing anyone any good, and you said you wouldn't mind, and I also deleted Image:Wikipedia.pdf, since I uploaded it to Commons as Image:Shuo-Xian-Wikipedia-essay.pdf. I hope you don't mind. --maru (talk) contribs 03:26, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Foucault's Pendulum index wikideletion

The list was deleted as an experiment to see if anyone actually would notice. Apparently someone did. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShadowyCaballero (talkcontribs)

Two people did. Please don't do such things again- they're awfully close to violating WP:POINT. --maru (talk) contribs 17:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Heroin reversion

Hi maru,

Yes, anon was correct about heroin metabolizing to morphine beyond the blood brain barrier, and anon could be right regarding Bayer being embarrassed. However no reference was given for the Bayer claim (and I think one is probably necessary) so I just found it easier to revert the whole edit. Perhaps that was a mistake and if so I apologize. Feel free to re-add anything you feel I inappropriately removed.

Thanks, --Bk0 (Talk) 21:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alright then. In that case, I shall partially restore it and add a verify tag to the embarrassment claim. --maru (talk) contribs 22:08, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Hen Fap vandal

A few weeks back you (quite rightly) upgraded User:TuomasTumour's block to indefinite (although I thought I did this myself earlier... must not have gone through properly). I think it may be necessary to institute a bot to revert and autoblock anonymous IPs that continue to place Tumour's catch phrase "hen fap" in articles (it struck again today). Unfortunately we can't block anon IP's indefinitely. Do you have any idea how one would go about creating a bot to catch future occurrences of "hen fap"? Thanks. --23skidoo 23:27, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go to CVU's IRC bots, Lupin's vandalism tool, whoever's running CryptoDerk's VandalFighter's filters, and possibly Tawkerbot, and ask to have the henfap fed in as a indicator of vandalism. Or at least, that's what I'd do. --maru (talk) contribs 00:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for fixing and clarifying my incorrect revert about the Lars and Jawas. It didn't make sense to me and was added by an annon, but I have now removed the warning from that IP address. Sorry; thanks. --Xol 02:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Think little of it. You probably could've done the same thing if you had paused to untangle the grammar of the anon and pondered the plot of Episode IV. --maru (talk) contribs 02:32, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Tarkin

Sorry, I mis-read the article thinking it said "... executed at the Emperor's Will." Sorry again. ;) --The Filmaker 02:26, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's just silly. I am disturbed by your lack of careful reading... --maru (talk) contribs 02:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Welcoming newcomers

What's the best practices in welcoming people to become new editors? --Kakurady 05:45, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if it is an anon, I use the {{anon}} template, since it contains most of the good reasons to register. For regular users, I use the ol' {{welcome}} template. If it is more than a casual welcome, I sometimes go through their contributions and give advice or quietly (but clearly) fix some things up. --maru (talk) contribs 05:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Editing

Sorry man - didn't know you were working on it. I was categorizing pages in the Category Needed department when I came across Dokkodo - I clicked on Musashi Miyamoto to figure out some background on the book and fixed some wording in the intro. I wasn't stalking your edits or anything - pure coincidence. I can look it over if you need some proofreading but I don't know much about Japanese culture... The article seems interesting though. Regards, Gardar Rurak 06:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No no- you misunderstand me. I was telling you I'd finished editing, not that I intented to keep editing it. If you could copyedit it, that would be good. I'm certain there are any number of things that could be fixed that I'm blind to. --maru (talk) contribs 06:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


PAGENAME template

Although it unfortunately cannot always be used (e.g. when the title is Metal Slug series or Cabal (arcade game)), I don't see there's anything wrong with using this template. In case you can convince me it's evil I'll remove it of course, for that matter i'll sum up the articles I've made (massive) use of it in. (just give me a second). --elias.hc 06:33, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blood Bros., DoDonPachi, Final Fight, Garou: Mark of the Wolves, Giga Wing, Guwange, Mars Matrix, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter, Metal Slug, Metal Slug 2, Metal Slug X, Metal Slug 3, Metal Slug 4, Metal Slug 5, Metal Slug 6, NAM-1975, Progear, Soul Calibur III, Street Fighter Alpha, Street Fighter II, Street Fighter III, Super Street Fighter II. --elias.hc 06:42, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's needless abuse of templates, confusing, space-wasting, and so non-standard I'm not sure there are even any rules against it. FWIW, everyone I asked on #Wikipedia thought using PAGENAME that way was a bad idea. --maru (talk) contribs 15:07, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, I get none of your points. I don't see how it's abusive, confusing (it's obvious what it does) or spacewasting (it doesn't waste space on 13 of the 22 articles I used the template on, it even saves space on 6 of these) to use the template the way I did. Also I wouldn't count being non-standard as a bad thing... Sorry I didn't take a good look at how it (the talk page) is already formatted before. --elias.hc 17:55, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
First, thanks for formatting your post. I really do have reasons for formatting all posts to my talk page this way- it's not merely a personal preference; my Emacs macros which I have to use to archive in anything under an hour pretty well require a uniform formatting.
Now, on to the subject matter. I say it is abusing templates because templates are designed for adding complicated and/or changing information to multiple pages, and for doing it in real-time; hence the whole transclusion thing. You're using them to display page-specific, static, unchanging content which is rather obvious, and could well break if the articles are ever merged or split or whatever- unlike the text that the templates replaced. It also breaks common-sense rules of not using complex and tricky things that few people really understand when they hold no advantage over the universally used other way. Overuse of templates where static text would work just as well is also strongly discouraged because changes in the template have to be immediately mirrored in the pages, which can bring a server to its knees, in addition to the havoc that any changes wreak on a page's history.
"Use the simplest markup to display information in a useful and comprehensible way." -WP:STYLE
"Templates are used to duplicate the same content across more than one page. You can change a template in one place and it will immediately propagate to the pages that use it."
"Templates should not masquerade as article content in the main article namespace; instead, place the text directly into the article." -Wikipedia:Template namespace
--maru (talk) contribs 23:00, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't quite aware of what you quoted from WP:STYLE. Although I have to disagree on the possibility that any problem could arise from changes in the template, because PAGENAME is not editable, I've replaced it wherever I'd put it. --elias.hc 06:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Glad I finally convinced you! And I hope you didn't do those replacement manually, but with a good editor. --maru (talk) contribs 17:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Writing for the Encyclopedia Project

Hey, Maru. You only writing here these days? --Uncle Ed 23:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all, Ed. I sent off my contract for Fujiwara no Teika a few days ago, but the problem is I've been both busy with projects and mildly sick, so I find editing Wikipedia to be rather soothing. I did get some of the books and suggestions I need, so if my health permits, I'll finish in a few days. After all, the article really doesn't need that much work. --maru (talk) contribs 23:45, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, something isn't really clear to me. When I submit my final product, should it be a link to a particular Wikipedia revision, or should I copy it over to the EP site? --maru (talk) contribs 23:46, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey dude - Muso Gonnosuke

I've added the diplomatic stuff about the Kaijo Monogatari in the Muso Gonnosuke article. Sorry it took so long but I've been a bit busy. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to modify the Jodo article. I've added a short list of ryu that uses jojutsu in one form or another and will keep searching for more. :) --Fred26 11:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fairly good. Glad to see the quote from the Nitenki. --maru (talk) contribs 17:29, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

#9 Dream

Forgive me for killing your #9 Dream link in the number9dream article. I won't do it again as you've clearly got a lot more experience at this than me -- however the link still doesn't go to the blank/new page. You click it and you stay at the number9dream article. And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/#9_Dream takes you to the Main Page. It's all a problem with the # sign methinks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamiwebb (talkcontribs)

Hmm. I never checked the red link. Now that I think about it, internal links starting with a hash mark generally redirect to another section in the article (so it would be trying to go to a section entitled 9dream, which does not exist). I do not know what happens if the specified section does not exist. I guess I'll have to point it at number9dream (song) or something. --maru (talk) contribs 20:10, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I hope you'll forgive me for trampling through your garden. I'm obviously very new at this and I'm learning and reading all the tutorials as I go. I fiddled with the link so that it read like the song is written (with the # sign) but still directs to the page you've made. All this because I saw David Mitchell give a wonderful reading last night. Love his books. Adamiwebb 21:49, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You saw Mitchell at a reading? That's odd; I thought he was still resident in Japan. But anyway, I know of no way to avoid the parsing of the #, so writing it out is the only praticable solution. --maru (talk) contribs 21:52, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
He left Japan a few years ago (when he began work on Cloud Atlas) to return to England. He now lives in Cork, Ireland, where (he told us last night) he's continuing to work on his big historical novel about a Dutch colony in Japan. BlackSwanGreen was written during a dry spell on the new one. He's touring America currently. Last night in Boston was the first night of the tour (since Homeland Security kept him from getting to Philadelphia on time) so depending on where in the world you are, you might be able to see him soon. Adamiwebb 22:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Tsk. Boston is nowhere near me. That's too bad, as I would rather have liked to see him- he's one of the few contemporary regular literature authors I actually care about. That novel about the Dutch colony sounds awesome, however: I've never seen any decent treatments of it. --maru (talk) contribs 23:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Recent Unix program edits

Are you really sure adding a See also to List of Unix programs is the best way to go? Categories are usually used for that purpose. --maru (talk) contribs 19:21, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking the same thing, after seeing some pages with categories. I don't know if there is a category for Unix Programs yet, but I will check it out. Thanks for the tip. --Unixguy 11:00, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, there sure is - it is Category:Unix software. I will start making the updates. --Unixguy
Well, I guess all's well that ends well. Too bad about the extra work, but you did learn something. --maru (talk) contribs 20:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

West Wing

Is there a West Wing template somewhere? Or where would I look for one? I just would like to put one on my user page. Second thing: would I be allowed to remove my warning now? Or does it have to stay there for all time? Thanks Maru!!! The ed17 17:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC) (talk) [reply]

Well, I'ver never seen a West Wing userbox template around. I supose you could ask someone in the Userbox Wikiproject to make one, or make itself.
As for your warning, go ahead and archive it if you want (see Wikipedia:How to archive a talk page). It's bad practice to simply delete stuff off your talk page. --maru (talk) contribs 21:09, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Thank you very much. The ed17 19:57, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Cat Lovers' Committee

Marudubshinki/Archive 54, I can see from the fact you own a Russian Blue, that you may be partial to cats.

Would you be interested in joining the Wikipedia Cat Lovers' Committee?

If you want to join, you can add yourself to the members list, and contact me, Sergeant Snopake, on my talk page, or the committee founder, GeorgeMoney, on his.

I also see that you voted keep on the deletion page.

Thank you very much for that!! :3

I appreciate that you are on a Wikibreak, just get back to me as soon as you can, please! --Sergeant Snopake, 22:35, 21 of April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I'm afraid I'm just a dilettante where it comes to our furry feline friends. I would be of little use, and the articles seem to be in good hands. Indeed, the MFD vote happened only because I noticed the page in another editor's contribs. --maru (talk) contribs 01:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Web link

Please try this link. --Uncle Ed 00:13, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'm in. I've started my user page, set up me preferences etc. --maru (talk) contribs 01:06, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1 strike? And you get a bizaare personal attack from a blocking admin

just for the legal threats, you are being banned. luckily, I am not based in whereever, and am not a customer of a cowardly ISP

sorry, comment, I tend to watch the block logs sometimes, and I can't help but noticed, you've blocked an ip with only 2 contributions for 31 hours, i guess there are either extenuating circumstances, or you have a 1 strike policy for ip vandals. --64.12.116.67 04:21, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In fact it doesn't seem to have made any threats, legal or otherwise, it just looks like a garden variety linkspammer, unless there's something I'm missing here? --64.12.116.195 04:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes, you are missing something. That person had already just been blocked for 24 hours on another IP, you see, and that was the second or third time they had made long and detailed rather hostile legal threats (and you could well interpret his messages as being personal threats as well). When you combine that with the block circumvention, I feel it justified the long block. (I forget which IP it was; but the history of the Administrator Alerts should have it). --maru (talk) contribs 05:05, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AT-AT/AT-ST

Sorry about that. I was showing a friend how to edit Wikipedia; I must have forgotten to change it. Sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Destroyer 45 (talkcontribs)

Oy vey. Are you sure you haven't forgotten anything else? Your contributions are in areas of Star Wars I am not really familiar with, and it would be a headache to go through all of them. --maru (talk) contribs 21:53, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Taken care of. --maru (talk) contribs 02:28, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... I am not sure I understand what you wrote (or if you understood me at all :-P): The image is lacking a source, that is, from where the image was taken, in example, the URL of the site you got it, or if you took the screenshot from a DVD you own, or you scanned it from a magazine, etc. If you got it from a site, please give the URL to the page that has the image and a direct link to the image, not just a link to the homepage (in example, putting that I found the image at www.google.com isn't useful at all for determining the source).
From what I read, it "seems" you have made the screenshot yourself, but it is not clear if that is right. If you can clarify that, it would be better :-) -- ReyBrujo 03:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nah, I'm not following you. It's a screen cap of an anime episode. Practically by definition it can then only be used under fair use, and I've added the appropriate templates for fair use, and it is allowable. What more is needed? --maru (talk) contribs 04:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Attacks

I'm just in a bad mood today. --Weirdy 03:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC).[reply]

That's not a good excuse; you know better than that. --maru (talk) contribs 04:21, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Would you mind putting in a word to help come to a concensus on this article's talkpage...? I and Zero1328 have done research, but the trolling of BIG (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is really not helping any matters. -ZeroTalk 04:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. You're lucky I like you, or I wouldn't take the time to go through all those bloody diffs. --maru (talk) contribs 05:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. I'm such a loveable oof. And ladies can't get enough of me. I'd disclose my secret for female mongering, but... awww then everyone would be too jealous. -ZeroTalk 13:54, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Modesty is not a vice you indulge in all that often, eh? --maru (talk) contribs 19:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Modesty! Good grief! I don't know the meaning of the word. -ZeroTalk 06:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously then you could never engage in it. Perhaps a brief block will teach you the meaning of modesty... --maru (talk) contribs 15:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Dear me! I suppose next you'll permaban me for being a good-looking womanizer! -ZeroTalk 16:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... there's an idea. That'd leave more of the chick Wikipedians for me, wouldn't it? --maru (talk) contribs 16:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Be fair, now. The ladies wouldn't be able to keep their spirits up without my godly aura eminating about the wiki. -ZeroTalk 16:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All's fair in love and war... --maru (talk) contribs 16:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to interrupt, but I feel that perhaps you should look over the talk page for the Colonel article, maru. If I ignore the persistance of BIG's opinion, he seems to have no regard for the Wikipedia rules. What do you think should be done? I decided to turn to you, since Zero's asked for your opinion on this before. - Zero1328 08:52, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Not really sure what I can do beyond what I've done. --maru (talk) contribs 13:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
He's done quite a bit more than break 3RR. He's essentially contributing to disruption with what has been identified as vandalism. He also has been involved in quite a great deal of personal attacks and nonsense we dont' have to put up with at wikipedia. I regard this as a respective, enclosed dispute, not appropriate for WP:AN/I. However, this has gone on quite enough, and there's certainly no reason to. I'm going to have to post on the board if something is not resolved about this. -ZeroTalk 14:11, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You can post on AN/I if you want. What I would do is be patient, and engage in a series of escalating blocks (assuming he is also making legitimate edits; I don't remember if he is); after reaching week-long blocks, I'd then go with an indefinite ban. That's just me, of course. If you want, you could ask another admin. Nufy8's not doing that much these days- you could try him. --maru (talk) contribs 01:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • That sounds plausible. I believe it would behoove us all to go along with that idea; blocks seem like the only course of action to cease the disruption. -ZeroTalk 12:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the block log, he was originally blocked for general disruption by MONGO. You replaced this with a 24 hour block and then unblocked completely. Can you explain the reasoning for this..? -ZeroTalk 19:20, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
MONGO had already blocked him for the 3RR I was going to block him for, is why. --maru (talk) contribs 19:26, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No Microsoft Products

How do you reconcile your refusal to use Microsoft products and your preference for the X-Box home gaming console? --209.6.26.54 01:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I simply imagine mentally that the Game division is unconnected with Microsoft except for receiving infusions of cash, and I do penance by running Xebian on my Xbox. --maru (talk) contribs 01:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Conspiring to commit a felony! Who do you think you are?

You said, "Good grief. I'm starting to wonder whether we should have a group of editors who haven't been foolish enough to break their pseudonymity assigned to articles like this (the idea being that if they haven't been foolish enough to give out their names and pictures for people like Brandt to abuse, they'll be less liable to be threatened by "exposure"; for instance, if Brandt were to make any threats against me, they would be completely hollow: no one on the wiki or the web knows who I am, where I live, or what I look like; the data just isn't there.)" Are you even aware of the new law? It was signed on January 5, 2006 by President Bush. Wikipedia is in Florida and I am in Texas. Both are under this federal law's jurisdiction. The law states: "Whoever ... utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet ... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person ... who receives the communications ... shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both." This offense is defined as a felony. If a U.S. Attorney used administrative subpoena power, he could get your IP address from Wikipedia in a matter of hours. If you are in the U.S., your service provider would cough up your identity instantly from their records. If you are out of the U.S., the authorities in that country would most likely cooperate on a criminal case like this, depending on the country where you are located. What you are saying on an open mailing list, by discussing techniques for greater secrecy, falls under the category of conspiring to commit a felony. You started harassing me by making stupid edits to that bio article on me that I want taken down. I think you should be more careful about what you do. --Daniel Brandt 66.142.90.168 01:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised you lurk on the mailing list. But that little law quote applies to you: I have not harassed you in the slightest, but here you are, making legal threats and harassing me. So, tell me, why do you enjoy conspiring with your Hivemind followers to commit felonies? --maru (talk) contribs 01:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
See that phrase quoted above -- "...without disclosing his identify..."? I disclose my identity. You do not disclose your identity and brag about it. The law does not apply to me, but it applies to you. --Daniel Brandt 66.142.90.168 02:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Note the logical connector "and". See the Logical conjunction article? You should go read it. --maru (talk) contribs 02:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Daniel. Dude. You need to lighten up. Maru isn't harrassing you, under that law, any other law, or Wikipedia policy.
Coming here and making that statement above qualifies as a violation of the WP:LEGAL "no legal threats" policy. You could be blocked for doing that, and banned if you keep making threats like that. Not to mention that it's rude and uncivil.
There are lawyers around. WP policy is within US legal bounds, and WP normal editing is perfectly legal. If you can't deal with minor content disputes, you need to calm down or stop editing until you can act in a more civil manner. Georgewilliamherbert 02:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'm familiar with Boolean logic. The AND means that even if I was harassing you, the fact that I identify myself means that the new criminal law does not apply. You would have civil recourse (you can sue me), but you would not have a criminal complaint. But if my identity was secret like yours is secret, then you would have the option of complaining to the U.S. Attorney regarding a criminal matter, and see if he is interested. On the other matter, I'm already banned forever from Wikipedia (for the second time, actually), so I fail to see what the point is that you're trying to make. Brad Patrick, Wikipedia's lawyer, is fully aware of my position. Now that Seigenthaler has no case (the new law went into effect post-Seigenthaler, and I inadvertently bailed out Wikipedia by identifying Seigenthaler's vandal too soon), my case could be the biggest threat to Wikipedia on the horizon. Welcome aboard. --Daniel Brandt 66.142.90.168 04:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to see you are at least half-educated and not a complete lackwit like some people have professed to me; you can then easily see that half the clause does not apply to me, as I have not harrassed you. If you're banned from Wikipedia, precisely what are you doing here? Perhaps you can expound for me the legal ramifications of deliberately breaking a site's Terms of Service- that would at least be relevant. And Seigenthaler never had a case, save in the court of public opinion, where (the judgement of various uninformed and erroneous pundits to the contrary) he has decisively lost. I can't imagine you'll do much better. But go ahead and make your empty threats, or sue. It'd be nice to have a good solid precedent to use against cranks like you. --maru (talk) contribs 21:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Red: edit section 0

I've never tested any of those scripts except in monobook. Alphax τεχ 05:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that could explain it. The adding-tabs thing sounds skin-specific. --maru (talk) contribs 21:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Per the Peer Review, where you said you found the clan business confusing: I've reworked that section. Is the new version clearer? --maru (talk) contribs 01:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yes. It explains why poetry was significant and what it had to do with clans. Looks much better. I think it can be a FA now. :) --Cat out 10:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad to hear that. I think FA is a little optimistic (I suspect they'd demand it be at least twice as long, and have every sentence footnoted), but it is nevertheless a rather good article. --maru (talk) contribs 21:10, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was created after the first protection[1], but I don't think he used it when he removed the office templates that someone else added (the edits were deleted, so I don't know the time). So the answer is both yes and no. Kotepho 02:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, he didn't use Dannyisme when he removed the OFFICE templates, from what I remember of the deleted edits; the use of the dannyisme account has struck me and others as inconsistent. --maru (talk) contribs 03:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It was in reply to your <!-- --> comment in the signpost article about this incident. The waters are even muddier now that other people are carrying out OFFICE actions. Kotepho 04:22, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interior Wiktionary links

I didn't know that you could add them like that. Thank you for pointing it out. Phydend 00:32, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you can do it for pretty much any wiki or project-sponsored-by-the-Wikimedia-Foundation, from Wookieepedia to Ward's Wiki. --maru (talk) contribs 00:34, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User notice: test3

Please block this User: 24.242.152.166; he's been warned several times. --Mahogany

Done. --maru (talk) contribs 20:41, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Graham

How do you know bugbear is Paul Graham? Nothing in his edit history is smoking gun to me. Sure, his Slashdot id is bugbear, but that's on slashdot, not here. --maru (talk) contribs 22:13, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He told me. AaronSw 03:06, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Technically, that's Original Research, but as long as the man himself doesn't show up angry, I guess I'll let it go. --maru (talk) contribs 03:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rationales to impeach George W. Bush (2nd nomination). The issue of the name has not been resolved and therefore people are now recruiting others to delete. Feel free to make your judgement known, thank you. Holland Nomen Nescio 21:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I got this too late. I was going to vote to merge into the Movement article, since all the rationale should be sourceable to proponents in the movement. --maru (talk) contribs 23:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion in Meme article

Hi Maru, I had a question about your recent edit to the Meme article. You deleted this paragraph:

The 'selfish gene' on which the meme is based ignores transcription factors and that only genes that work together are evolutionarily successful. The meme then stands on a metaphor rather than on biological science. 'The Selfish Genes', genes working together promoting the fitness of individuals, fighting for a spot on the team, is a somewhat more apt description of evolution but with this more accurate description of evolution the foundation of memetics is undermined.

Your edit notes simply say "Rv. I disagree". Could you explain what you disagree with on the meme talk page? You may have good reason for not reverting the statement, but I think it would be fair to 24.10.221.159 to have more than a two word rebuttal.

Thanks, mennonot 22:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quite simply, I disagree with the anon's characteterization of the selfish gene as a "metaphor" and not a reality. While it is trivially true that not all genes can be selfish (since otherwise the organisms would die), that doesn't prove "that only genes that work together are evolutionarily successful", and thus the body of the anon's argument is invalid. --maru (talk) contribs 23:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Teika formatting

Remember Fujiwara no Teika? Well, I'm trying to get those nice little boxes you set up to be in the center instead of left-aligning (I've asked around, and people find center aligning better, apparently), but I can't figure out how- the relevant code already says "center". --maru (talk) contribs 05:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Aye aye, done. :) --Cat out 08:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars Editing: Master Plan

Hello, Marudubshinki, or however you would like to be called... ah, yes. You see, "minor Star Wars ships" was moved to something like "list of minor Star Wars ships". I was going to put the first one under AfD, and uh, had something to do urgently before I could finish it. Anyway, I wasn't familiar with how to do it, so... Anyway, if you could put "minor Star Wars ships" under AfD, I would be grateful

RelentlessRouge 11:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]