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Gliese 581 c: Good Article Reassessment

Hi, no sarcasm from me this time I'm afraid. I regret to inform you that due to ongoing problems I put Gliese 581 c up for a Good Article Reassessment as I feel it has failed the stability criterion (Good Article criterion #5) and possibly a couple of others as well. Icalanise (talk) 22:33, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The {{FLC}} and {{FAC}} and to be transcluded on talk pages, not substituted. If it is substituted then someone has to fix them for the bot to work, as it has been done for the previous FLCs. Gary King (talk) 15:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick reminder, you need to pick a third list for the FLCon. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RFA Thanks

Nergaal, I'd like to thank you for voting in my RFA. Thanks also for expressing your trust in me, and I hope that I live up to your expectations. Don't forget, if you have any questions (or bits of advice), please leave a message on my talk page. Thanks again, Spencer^T♦^C 02:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Haumea GA

Congrats on all your hard work. Note my comments at GA page. Thanks. — ceranthor ^(strike) 23:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I have one quick suggestion — Haumea is exceptional among the known trans-Neptunian objects because of its extreme elongation.=??? Needs work. — ceranthor ^(strike) 00:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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-{{User|Jac16888}} - Dear All, I'm pleased to offer up Jac16888 for consideration. A long term account, Jac started editing around March of last year. Very much a content creator Jac has also been highly active in the project space of late. So, as ever, the rationale and headlines;
+# [[/Archive_1 | Archive 1 - ''2007'']]
+# [[/Archive_2 | Archive 2 - ''2008'']]
+# [[/Archive_3 | Archive 3 - ''2008'']]
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+== Gliese 581 c: Good Article Reassessment ==
-'''Main Space'''
-* Around 68% total edits are to the main space - a commited encyclopedia builder.
-* Substantial Talk Page entries show a desire to colaborate.
-* Realtively large number of template edits.
+Hi, no sarcasm from me this time I'm afraid. I regret to inform you that due to ongoing problems I put [[Gliese 581 c]] up for a [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Gliese 581 c/1|Good Article Reassessment]] as I feel it has failed the stability criterion (Good Article criterion #5) and possibly a couple of others as well. [[User:Icalanise|Icalanise]] ([[User talk:Icalanise|talk]]) 22:33, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
-'''Project Space'''
-* Substantial input at [[WP:AFD]] - not just drive by comments but adding real value and creating discussions
-* Around 300 or so deleted edits are due to accurate speedy tagging / PROD's
-* Substantial input at [[WP:ANI]] and the village pump - Jac is not afraid to get his hands dirty
-* A review of talk pages shows less experienced editors asking questions and getting answers - the additional tools will help this even more so.
+== Notice ==
-'''Editing Tools'''
-* Accurate use of [[WP:RBK|rollback]] and [[WP:UNDO|undo]]
-* Accurate use of Twinkle but with most edits good "old school" editing
+{{notice|header=Please accept this notice to join the [[WP:Wikiproject Good Article Collaboration Center|Good Article Collaboration Center]], a project aimed at improving five articles to GA status every month. We hope to see you there!--[[User:LAAFan|<font color="orange" face="Times New Roman">LAA</font>]][[User talk:LAAFan|<font color="black" face="Times New Roman">Fan</font>]]''<sup>[[User:LAAFan/Guestbook|sign]]</sup> <sub>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/LAAFan 2|review]]''</sub> 02:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)}}
-'''House Keeping'''
-* Clean & sensible User Page
-* Clean block log
-* Sensible signature
-* E-mail enabled
+== FLC template ==
-Jac16888 declined an immediate nomination a few weeks ago due to other commitments (see [[User_talk:Jac16888#Tool_Kit|here]]). Jac is in no haste for the tools, and modest and demuring as to wether a request would pass - an excellent attitude to the role. I believe that only a '''[[User:Pedro/Net Positive|Net Positive]]''' will be forthcoming by giving him access to the bit. I hope the community agree with this course of action.  - <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 13:21, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
+The {{tl|FLC}} and {{tl|FAC}} and to be transcluded on talk pages, not substituted. If it is substituted then someone has to fix them for the bot to work, as it has been done for the previous FLCs. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 15:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
-:''Candidate, please indicate acceptance of the nomination here:''I accept this nomination, and thank you Pedro--[[User:Jac16888|Jac16888]] ([[User talk:Jac16888|talk]]) 15:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-::One more thing, since i've heard of it coming up lately, I am currently 20 years old, and writing that makes me feel ancient--[[User:Jac16888|Jac16888]] ([[User talk:Jac16888|talk]]) 15:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
+:Just a quick reminder, you need to pick a third list for the [[WP:FLCon|FLCon]]. -- [[User:Scorpion0422|Scorpion]]<sup>[[user talk:Scorpion0422|0422]]</sup> 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-<!--The candidate may make an optional statement here-->
-====Questions for the candidate====
-Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Wikipedia as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:
-:'''1.''' What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
-::'''A:''' If this Rfa passes, i don't intend to immediately throw myself into every possible admin related activity, instead i'm simply going to ease myself into it gently, starting of with the things i'm confident i can do, and as time goes by moving into other areas of adminship;
-::*Speedy deletion, as Pedro said, i have a considerable number of correct taggings, there have not been to many cases where a speedy tag i have placed has been declined, and from the ones i can remember, many of those were eventually deleted anyway and as an added bonus i plan to set myself an informal rule whereby i will only delete articles that others have tagged(when valid) and tag ones i find myself for other admins, although i won't apply this to obvious cases, i.e. Attacks, vandalism and copyvios.
-::*Checking and deleting expired prods, and closing Afds, which as i understand it, the only task for an administrator is to gauge which way the consensus goes and act accordingly, starting of with the more clear-cut nom's.
-::*I will also try to be active at [[WP:AIV]]. Although i have not used that page a significant amount, its mostly because the vandals i come across are not often committed, just ones who make one or two bad edits then never come back, although i try to keep tabs on them anyway, checking their contribs regularly for a few weeks after.
-::*Finally, i hope to remain active at AN/I and AN, that won't change whichever way this goes, although it would be nice to have an increased ability to help.
+== RFA Thanks ==
-:'''2.''' What are your best contributions to Wikipedia, and why?
-::'''A:''' Unfortunately, I have no really significant contributions i.e. FA/GA's, hopefully i'll be able to change this sometime soon, i have a few ideas up my sleeve. As for my best contributions, i have none that stand out in particular, instead, i'm simply proud of the time i've spent on wikipedia, i feel that i have in general been a net gain for the 'pedia, i've done a fair amount of work in cleanup, tidying and improving articles to just to get them to a decent level. I'm also quite proud of some of the work i've doing with newer editors, helping them to improve their articles by talking through it with them rather than simply jumping in and doing it for them, i feel that helping them do it themselves will help their confidence here and hopefully convince them to stay on and do more good, the most recent example of this is the work i'm doing here [[Nicole Lai]].
+Nergaal, I'd like to thank you for voting in [[Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Spencer|my RFA]]. Thanks also for expressing your trust in me, and I hope that I live up to your expectations. Don't forget, if you have any questions (or bits of advice), please leave a message on [[User talk:Spencer|my talk page]]. Thanks again, '''[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#006400">Spencer</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">C</span>]]</sup> 02:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-:'''3.''' Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
-::'''A:''' As anyone here will no doubt soon discover i was at one point fairly deeply into the whole "TTN/fiction" thing that caused so much drama across wikipedia, and yes, once upon a time i was dead against everything the so-called "deletionist cabal" were doing. However i dealt with this simply by stepping back from it, and trying to work out compromises, working to get the two "sides" to work together. I do however feel that i have shown myself to be able to see past my own likes/dislikes and work with them, particularly [[User:Eusebeus]], with whom i managed to negotiate something of a truce, and i believe that edits such as these, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sacred_Heart_Hospital&diff=prev&oldid=240868239],[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J.D._%28Scrubs%29&diff=238806910&oldid=238719133], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carla_Espinosa&diff=238826006&oldid=236449406], show that i'm willing to make edits that need to be done regardless of how i feel about it.
-::As for other disputes, none especially come to mind, i've generally learnt to avoid major conflicts, and i find that the more recent ones have come to amicable conclusions
+== Haumea GA ==
-<!-- ;Additional questions from [[User:Example|Example]]: -->
-'''Optional question from''' [[User:Jac16888]]
-:'''4.'''Why do you have only one image upload and so few edits in Image space
-::'''A:''' I'm asking myself this because i'll be surprised if it doesn't come up. Yes i do have barely any edits in the imagespace, to date the only image i've uploaded was this [[:Image:Aspire Sculpture Artwork - Nottingham.jpg]] (since moved to commons) which took me several hours to understand and sort through organizing the copyright OTRS stuff for it. The reasoning behind this is that i simply cannot comprehend all the copyright policies we have going on, it seems like a lot of technical mumbjo jumbo to me. Perhaps someday i'll have a spare few days and force myself to learn it all, but in the meantime i simply intend to avoid that area of wikipedia, if i don't touch it, i can't break anything. Hopefully you won't think any less of me for this
+Congrats on all your hard work. Note my comments at [[Talk:Haumea (dwarf planet)/GA1|GA page]]. Thanks. &mdash; <font face="Bank gothic">[[User:Ceranthor|<font color="green">'''ceranthor'''</font>]]</font> <font face="Georgia"><sup>'''([[User talk:Ceranthor|<font color="silver">strike</font>]])'''</sup></font> 23:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-'''Question from [[User:Stifle|Stifle]]
+:Yeah, I have one quick suggestion &mdash; ''Haumea is exceptional among the known [[trans-Neptunian object]]s because of its extreme elongation.''=??? Needs work. &mdash; <font face="Bank gothic">[[User:Ceranthor|<font color="green">'''ceranthor'''</font>]]</font> <font face="Georgia"><sup>'''([[User talk:Ceranthor|<font color="#0000CD">strike</font>]])'''</sup></font> 00:49, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-:'''5.''' Under what circumstances may a non-free image of a living person be used on Wikipedia?
-::'''A.'''As i said above, i have little to no understanding of the image policies, although from a quick look at [[WP:Nonfree]], i can say that they shouldn't be, unless it is a person who is notable for their appearance, who is no longer in the public sphere, and the only images that illustrate the person properly as they were at the time they were active are non-free. To give what i think is a valid example, sort of, If [[Gene Simmons]](first thing that came to mind, no idea why) had retired 20 years ago, and the only photo of him in his Kiss outfit and make up was non-free, it would be acceptable. Hope that's right
-;Questions from [[User:Jamesontai|Jameson L. Tai]]
-:'''6.''' I see that you are 20 years old.  Do you have any personal commitments which may hinder your work as an administrator?  (Look, I'm 21, and I have assignments, design projects, lab reports, etc to deal with on a daily basis.  How comfortable are you in handling your personal affairs along with administrative duties?
-::'''A.''' Well I'm currently at university, so that doesn't take up of my time(joke). I do have real-world commitments, i think it would be more worrying if i didn't> I have my university studies, so similar to you in that i have assignments, design projects and lab work to do(plus the related social life), and I'm also looking for a part-time job, but no i don't think any of that would really hinder any admin work i undertake, I've long been able to balance Wikipedia with real-life stuff, and since i don't intend, if i get the bit, to suddenly triple the amount of time i spend on here i don't think i'll have any trouble.
-:'''7.''' How do you see Wikipedia in five years?
-::'''A.''' This is quite a difficult question, i can barely imagine myself in 5 years never mind Wikipedia, but I'll have a stab at it. I think/hope, that it will continue to improve, particularly if it continues to spread through the academic world, obviously for a student its the font of all knowledge(or rather a good base point), but i have now had several lecturers, not just the younger ones but some very high ranking, emeritus ones, who not only refer us to specific Wikipedia articles, but use them personally. This, i believe, is absolutely vital to the project, the biggest task we face is convincing the academic world that we are in fact a reliable source, and i think that this is starting to happen. If we achieve this, and get them not only reading, but editing, then i think we will be well on our way to perfection
-:'''8.''' How do you view the role of an administrator and how do you see yourself as one?
-::'''A.''' ''I fully intend to answer this question, i just want to give some real thought before i answer it''
-;Optional question from {{user|Juliancolton}}
-:'''9.''' In your acceptance statement, you pointed out that you are 20 years old. Do you feel that age is a deciding factor in regards to adminship?
-::'''A.''' Not in the slightest. Being at university the last year I've met people of different ages, 16-30, and I've found that a persons age often has no bearing on how mature a person is, in fact in more than case older people tend to be less mature than you would expect, and that is what is relevant to adminship, how mature a person is, maturity being completely separate to age. The reasoning behind my indicating my age was because, although i don't often follow RFA's, i have been aware of recent cases where a persons age is taken into account, and since I've never revealed my age before, it seemed like a good idea to disclose it.
-;Optional question from [[User:Blooded Edge|Blooded Edge]]
-:'''10:''': As an administrator, you will most probably come across rash users/IPs, who will not take kindly to reversions by yourself, for whatever the reason. Indeed, you may already have been in such situations before. I wanted to know what exactly your personal stance is on the ''cool down'' block. Wikipedia generally discourages admins from taking this course of action, due to the belief it only inflames the situation. However, there is still the small chance that the subject will indeed take the oppurtunity to review his/her actions, and may change his/her way of acting to something more appropriate. Assuming that Wikipedia had no clear policy on this, would you use such a block? Or wait until the IP/User simply becomes too irksome to ignore?
-::'''A.''' A cool down block is simply a bad idea, in almost all cases, as you say there is a small chance that the subject will actually cool down, but its a very small chance, and its more likely that it will really inflame the situation. However, if a person is really overreacting to a revert, then a block may be necessary, not as a cool-down because they actually warrant a block, i have seen cases where a reverted user goes out of control and starts attacking other users or vandalising, although if i had reverted the user, it would be foolish for me to block them, and would take to AN/I or AIV dependent on the situtation, and let some others look at it .
-;Optional Question from [[User:Pedro|Pedro]]
-:'''11.''' I am 34, a company director and father to two children under three. Do you think my self evident real life commitments impact on my ability to be an administrator?
-::'''A.''' Erm, ok then. Yes, of course your job and your little Pedrinos are going to impact on the time you have free to be on wikipedia, nobody could expect otherwise, but on your actual ability? I very much doubt it, short of you being a bit tired sometimes. I think it might actually have been you who said this, but if an admin spends one hour, one day or one week a month doing admin duties, that person is still a net gain for the community.
-====General comments====
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-*See [[User:Jac16888|Jac16888]]'s edit summary usage with [http://toolserver.org/~mathbot/cgi-bin/wp/rfa/edit_summary.cgi?user=Jac16888&lang=en mathbot's tool]. For the edit count, see the [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Jac16888|talk page]].
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-{{#ifeq:Jac16888|Jac16888||<div class="infobox" style="width:50%">RfAs for this user:<ul class="listify">{{Special:Prefixindex/Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Jac16888}}</ul></div>}}
-* Links for Jac16888: {{usercheck-short|Jac16888}}
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-<!-- IMPORTANT: Only registered Wikipedians may comment in the "support", "oppose" or "neutral" sections. Non-registered users or editors who are not logged in are welcome to participate in the "general comments" and "discussion" sections. -->
-''Please keep discussion constructive and [[Wikipedia:Civility|civil]]. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review [[Special:Contributions/Jac16888]] before commenting.''
-====Discussion====
-*I can't quite make out the point of Pedro's question. Is he not simply repeating what Jameson asked before him? Except, the question asks the nominee to give opinion on the asker himself. If you get what I'm trying to say, please explain =|. [[User:Blooded Edge|Blooded Edge]] ([[User talk:Blooded Edge|talk]]) 20:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-::I'll let some others comment perhaps. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 20:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::Sure thing. '''[[User:Blooded Edge|Blooded Edge]] ([[User talk:Blooded Edge|Contact]])''' 20:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-::::Noted your edit summary Blooded Edge. Basically it's a flip to the rather odd Q6 question (from a respected editor don't get me wrong). This place is <small>almost</small> entirely a volunteer effort (unless someone else is getting my pay cheques!). RL commitments don't really mean anything when it comes to granting +sysop unless a candidate has so few edits because of their commitments we can't form a consensus on their abilities with the tools. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 20:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::::Aah, OK, so let me just clarify. You want to be sure he stays active enough to warrant the tools which come with the status? Or am I missing something? [[User:Blooded Edge|Blooded Edge]] ([[User talk:Blooded Edge|talk]]) 20:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-::::::You're missing something (no disrespect)!. I'm saying Q6 is a poor question. Future or current real life commitments are totally academic to gaining adminship. Let us see - '''''Oppose''' User is 21 and likely to take a gap year after leaving university to go around the world. No point them having the tools.'' Doesn't make much sense to me. BTW - did you note I actually nominated the user? <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 21:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-Sheesh, no I did not notice that, I didn't bother looking to see the name of the nominator after reading the text, my bad. Thanks for explaining more clearly. Cheers, [[User:Blooded Edge|Blooded Edge]] ([[User talk:Blooded Edge|talk]]) 21:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-=====Support=====
-#'''Support''' As nom. Even if I now feel very, very old ''':)''' <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 15:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' A bit on the old side, but ok. '''[[User:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFFF00;background-color: #0000FF;'>MBisanz</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:MBisanz|<span style='color: #FFA500;'>talk</span>]]</sup> 15:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' I like the initial decline for the tools, as well as the work with deletions. Very valuable in that area and can be trusted with admin.--[[User:Banime|Banime]] ([[User talk:Banime|talk]]) 16:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#:Sorry, I forgot to make an an age joke. --[[User:Banime|Banime]] ([[User talk:Banime|talk]]) 16:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support'''. Recent assistance on a "major" rewrite of a list specific set of guidelines as well as as stepping into an Edit War shows Jac16888 to be helpful and neutral. (Guess with age comes wisdom huh?) [[User:Soundvisions1|Soundvisions1]] ([[User talk:Soundvisions1|talk]]) 16:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''[[User:Naerii|<span style="font-size:15px;font-family:helvetica;color:#1693A5;">naerii</span>]]''' 16:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' - Not power hungry, not seen them around but from what I can tell they would be a net positive for Wikipedia. <font face="Trebuchet MS"><b>&mdash; [[User:Neurolysis|neuro]]</b><sup><i>[[User talk:Neurolysis|(talk)]]</i></sup></font> 17:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#<s>Oppose, is too old.</s> Seriously, though, he should be fine. &ndash;[[User:Juliancolton|Juliancolton]] [[User talk:Juliancolton|<font color="#66666"><sup>'''T'''ropical</sup></font>]] [[Special:contributions/Juliancolton|<font color="#66666"><sup>'''C'''yclone</sup></font>]] 17:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' - Per Pedro's nom. User looks a.o.k. [[User:Wisdom89|'''<font color="#660000">Wisdom89</font>''']] <sub>([[User_talk:Wisdom89|<small><sub><font color="#17001E">T</font></sub></small>]] / [[Special:Contributions/Wisdom89|<small><sup><font color="#17001E">C</font></sup></small>]])</sub> 17:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' Per nom. Good user. —[[user:aitias|αἰτίας]] ''•''[[User talk:Aitias|''discussion'']]''•'' 17:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' per nom. [[User:Cosmic Latte|Cosmic Latte]] ([[User talk:Cosmic Latte|talk]]) 18:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' I give credit to the nom for pointing out all those facts, it saved me some time, anyway, looks good. Good luck! [[User:America69|America69]] ([[User talk:America69|talk]]) 19:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#Best of luck. &mdash; <font face="Bank gothic">[[User:Ceranthor|<font color="green">'''ceranthor'''</font>]]</font> <font face="Georgia"><sup>'''([[User talk:Ceranthor|<font color="silver">strike</font>]])'''</sup></font> 19:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' as per above comments [[User:Booksworm|Booksworm]] <sup>[[User Talk:Booksworm|Do you speak Orange?]]</sup> 20:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC) (Could someone explain the relevance of the Image upload question? I do not quite understand the connection
-#::Do you mean question 4? If so, i asked myself that, so that i could give an explanation for my lack of image edits--[[User:Jac16888|Jac16888]] ([[User talk:Jac16888|talk]]) 21:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Oppose''' - too old :P  [[User:Garden|<font color=#666666>'''Garden'''</font>]]. 21:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#: No way that joke has been done... meh, I think he'll be a good admin.  [[User:Garden|<font color=#000000>'''Garden'''</font>]]. 21:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' has over 4000 mainspace edits.As per track see no chance of misuse of tools.[[User:Pharaoh of the Wizards|Pharaoh of the Wizards]] ([[User talk:Pharaoh of the Wizards|talk]]) 21:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Strong Support''' - After examining the user's talk page and contributes; And the full examination from the [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username={{urlencode:{{ucfirst:Jac16888}}}}&site={{SERVERNAME}} Interiot's 'Wannabe Kate' Tool] and from the SQL's Tools [http://toolserver.org/%7Esql/sqlbot.php?user=Jac16888]. — [[User:Orion11M87|Orion11M87]] ([[User talk:Orion11M87|talk]]) 22:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' Why not? :) Looks good to me! [[User:II MusLiM HyBRiD II |<span style='font-family:"Arial Black";color:white;background:blue'>II MusLiM </span><span style='font-family:"Arial Black";color:yellow;background:black'>HyBRiD II </span>]] 22:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' I trust him. <font color="0D670D" face="Georgia, Helvetica">[[User:Rootology|rootology]]</font> (<font color="#156917">[[Special:Contributions/Rootology|C]]</font>)(<font color="#156917">[[User talk:Rootology|T]]</font>) 22:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' I usually trust Pedro, anyways. Good luck! [[User:SWik78|SWik78]] <small>([[User talk:SWik78|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SWik78|contribs]])</small> 23:52, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''', I very much trust the nom. [[User:RockManQ|<font color=#808080>'''RockManQ'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:RockManQ|(talk)]]</sup> 00:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' - Jac, don't be humble about your contribution history. I've gone all the way through it and you're an excellent wikipedian. By the way, I am an administrator and I know nothing about image policies either, and there's nothing wrong with that, because I do hardly any work with images. You clearly understand the policies that apply to the areas you work in. Incidentally, my understanding of current policies is that list-type articles are allowed to contain redlinks, because they encourage others to create articles to turn the redlinks blue. If the redlinks bother you, you can link it to something else. Have a look at my articles [[Agro-]] or [[Aggi]] for some examples. See how I have no redlinks, but there is a link on every line despite some of the topics not having an article? - [[User:Richardcavell|Richard Cavell]] ([[User talk:Richardcavell|talk]]) 00:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''': I see absolutely no reason not to support. [[User:Tcrow777|Tcrow777]]<sup> [[User talk:Tcrow777|Talk]]</sup> 00:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' There is plenty of reason to support. It has just all been said already. Good to see another speedy-deletion-willing candidate. I experienced in my RfA to be opposed because I said I wanted to handle this as it was considered an "easy task" but with days such as today, where there are more than 600(!) requests for speedy deletions, I am glad of anyone willing to help. And much more so, if the person in question is shown to be as competent as this candidate. '''[[User:SoWhy|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #AC0000">So</span>]][[User talk:SoWhy|<span style="font-variant:small-caps; color: #1F3F53">Why</span>]]''' 10:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' You'll make a fine admin, no worries here. You'd better start growing that beard ;) [[User:Nancy|<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;color:#FF6600;font-size:14px">Nancy</span>]][[User talk:Nancy|<span style="font-family:Segoe Script;font-size:14px"><sup> talk</sup></span>]] 12:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support.''' Per nom and positive contributions to this project. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 13:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' - good contributions to the project. [[User talk:Caulde|<span style="color:#8B0000;font-weight:bold">Caulde</span>]] 16:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support'''- Looks good to me.[[User:CMJMEM|CMJMEM]] ([[User talk:CMJMEM|talk]]) 17:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' <s>Old fogeys are much more calm and useful than the young idealists</s>Great candidate, lots of contribs, [[WP:WTHN|why the hell not]]?<font style="font:12px Harlow Solid Italic">[[User:Universal Cereal Bus|<font color=#00ffff>Special</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Universal Cereal Bus|<big><font color=#ff0000>K</font></big>]]([[User talk:Universal Cereal Bus|KoЯn flakes]])</small> 18:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' I can spot a Pedro nom from a mile away. :) [[User:GlassCobra|<font color="002bb8">Glass</font>]]'''[[User talk:GlassCobra|<font color="002bb8">Cobra</font>]]''' 20:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#:''':)''' <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 20:47, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' I was swayed by how Jac16888 responded to Q5. '''<font face="Arial">[[Special:Contributions/Maxim|<font color="#FF7133">Maxim</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Maxim|<font color="blue">(talk)</font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 22:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''support''' Stifle raises an interesting point but since the user does not intend to do image work it is not a serious concern. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] ([[User talk:JoshuaZ|talk]]) 03:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Weak Support''' lack of image policy knowledge concerns me, but not enough to make me oppose an otherwise wonderful candidate. Erik the <font color="red">[[User:Erik the Red 2|Red]]</font> 2 <small><font color= "green">[[User talk:Erik the Red 2|~~]]</font><font color= "blue">[[Special:Contributions/Erik the Red 2|~~]]</font></small> 03:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-# '''Support'''Seems to be a perfect candidate, stay away from our image policy if you don't understand it until you do, also per my [[User:Foxy Loxy/RfA criteria|RfA criteria]] [[User:Foxy Loxy|<span style="color:#CC6600;">Foxy</span> <span style="color:#993300;">Loxy</span>]] [[User talk:Foxy Loxy|<sup><span style="color:#CC3333;">Pounce!</span></sup>]] 08:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''', will be fine.  He's said he'll stay away from images til he learns more; that'll do.  No reason to presume he wouldn't be able to gen up on image policy if he wanted to.  [[User:Fish and karate|<u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#28c"><b>fish</b></u>]]&amp;[[User_talk:Fish and karate|<u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#D33"><b>karate</b></u>]] 10:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-#I agree with Pedro's answer to Stifle as well as Jac16888's frankness. '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Vishnava|<font color="Red">Vishnava</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Vishnava|<font color="Black"> talk </font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 12:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-# '''Support'''. Looks good to me. [[User:DiverseMentality|<font color="E9580C">'''DiverseMentality'''</font>]][[User_talk:DiverseMentality|<font color="262525"><sup>(Boo!)</sup></font>]] 17:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support''' Nothing worth worrying over, apperently has plenty experience.--[[User:KojiDude#(top)|<font color="00CD32">Koji</font>]][[User talk:KojiDude#(top)|<font color="green">Dude</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/KojiDude|<sup><font color="90EE90">(C)</font></sup>]] 19:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support'''Good choice to be an admin. [[User:Wildthing61476|Wildthing61476]] ([[User talk:Wildthing61476|talk]]) 19:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support'''.  Good candidate.  Good luck, Jac! <font  face="georgia">'''[[User:Malinaccier|Malinaccier]] ([[User talk:Malinaccier|talk]])'''</font> 21:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Support'''. The candidate has not raised any significant doubts in my mind, so I see no reason to oppose this request. [[User:Blooded Edge|Blooded Edge]] ([[User talk:Blooded Edge|talk]]) 21:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-#'''Strong Support'''--[[User:LAAFan|<font color="orange" face="Times New Roman">LAA</font>]][[User talk:LAAFan|<font color="black" face="Times New Roman">Fan</font>]]''<sup>[[User:LAAFan/Guestbook|sign]]</sup> <sub>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/LAAFan 2|review]]''</sub> 22:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-=====Oppose=====
-<s>Hate to be the first one, but knowledge of image policy is quite important for admins nowadays. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle/wizard|talk]]) 14:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)</s>
-:I do agree image policy is becoming ever more important these day, and respect to the candidate for "putting his hands up" that he is weak in this area (although I will be the first to say that I am too). What impressed me in the answer to your question was that he could identify where to go (in this case the relevant page being [[WP:NONFREE]]) to find out answers. I don't think every admin needs to know every bit of policy and guideline. What they do need to know is where to ''find out'' the information, and how to act (or not act) accordingly. Just my thoughts, not badgering. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 14:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-::Once s/he becomes the sysop, s/he will know the image polices as accordingly; and image polices are not required for RfA, nor are needed if never s/he doesn't work on images. Like I said, as others have, s/he will probably learn them fluently once admin. — [[User:Orion11M87|Orion11M87]] ([[User talk:Orion11M87|talk]]) 15:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::My only comment here is that the first statement isn't necessarily true. — [[User talk:CharlotteWebb|CharlotteWebb]] 22:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-::::That I feel old? Trust me, I do. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">[[User:Pedro|<b>Pedro</b>]] : [[User_talk:Pedro|<font style="color:#accC10;background:#0000fa;">&nbsp;Chat&nbsp;</font>]] </span></small> 23:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::::Sorry, I was replying to Orion11M87. — [[User talk:CharlotteWebb|CharlotteWebb]] 03:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-:The folks above have good points. I won't blot your copybook. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] ([[User talk:Stifle/wizard|talk]]) 12:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
-=====Neutral=====
-# '''Neutral''' - Most likely supporting, I just haven't finished reviewing the candidate.  [[User:Jamesontai|'''''<font color="#000066">- Jameson L. Tai</font>''''']] <sup>''<font color="#660000">[[User talk:Jamesontai|talk]] ♦ [[Special:Contributions/Jamesontai|contribs]]''</font></sup> 17:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)