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[[Image:Bay Islands.jpg|350px|thumb|Russell Island in Moreton Bay]]
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'''Russell Island''' in [[Redland Shire, Queensland|Redland City]] is the biggest of the [[Southern Moreton Bay Islands (Queensland)|Southern Moreton Bay Islands]], sandwiched between the mainland and [[North Stradbroke Island]] in the state of [[Queensland]], [[Australia]]. The island is eight kilometres long (north-to-south) and nearly three kilometres wide.


==History==
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Many people remember Russell Island for the infamous land scams of the early 1970s, when many of the islands farms were divided into over 20,000 blocks.{{Ref|russell_island_fraud}} At the time, the area, with a population of less than 500, did not have a local authority enforcing planning regulations. Heavily advertised and sold off by unscrupulous vendors, these blocks were often not where the unwary customers thought they were buying. It all rode on the vague promise of a bridge from the [[National Party of Australia|National Party]] government at the time.


Media reports exposing the scam pointed to blocks that were underwater at high tide and the lack of public land. Thousands were duped and still smart today when rates notices arrive. Privately owned properties have reduced to about 15,000 as many owners have forfeited their land back to the council. It is bitter and unwanted heritage that the islanders and the [[Redland Shire Council|Redland Council]], who were appointed to take over the island, have tried to untangle ever since.
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The history of the island, however, goes back much further than the scams. The island was first settled by Europeans in 1866, when John Campbell was granted a lease on the northern end of the island closely followed by John Willes and his family. Farmers and oystermen were the first full-time inhabitants, but with the arrival of the Jackson family in 1906, a small village was created on the western side of the island called Jacksonville, that had a sawmill, pineapple canning factory, jetty and even a picture theatre.{{Ref|russell_island_history}}
= September 30 =


==Island life==
== Help understanding SSH command ==
[[Image:HousearrivingonRussell.jpg|300px|thumb|House arriving on Russell Island]]
According to the 2006 Census Russell has just under 2000 permanent residents. However, this changes dramatically on weekends and holidays when many of the 30% of dwellings on the island which are classified as unoccupied are visited by their owners. In the last five years new dwellings grown by one a day--and more. The blocks, while still the second cheapest in Australia, no longer "go for a song". Spots for small boat moorings around the island are running out. Fast ferries and scheduled barges straddle the distance to [[Redland Bay]] quickly for most of the day.


Locals describe living on the island as quiet and laid back, with the advantage of being close to the facilities of a major city just across water and being fringed by the [[Moreton Bay Marine Park]]. Certainly, the rate of reported crime is well below that of equivalent suburbs on the mainland. Contrary to current beliefs, the possibility of a bridge being built to connect Russell Island to Redland Bay is slim.
ssh -D 8080 -C -q username@domain.com


==Facilities==
I'm using the above command to access my home network via my web browser while I'm away at university. There are many other people on this local network -- what's to stop them from connecting to {my.local.ip.address}:8080 and thus having access to my personal home network? I trust that when used as just a secure shell SSH is completely safe, but since I have explicitly asked it to do this, doesn't that negate its in-built security? Apologies if this question seems a bit redundant to the more experienced computer users out there, but I want to make sure, just in case.
Russell Island has a police station, IGA supermarket, butcher, post office, garage, service station, grocery/take away foodstore, bottle shop, pet shop, part-time doctor, chemist, hairdresser, bakery, landscape/hire center, storage sheds, video hire, lawyer, library, RSL, bowls club, pool and restaurant.
newer business to come soon inc news agent and sea food shop to open in the next 2 mths.
Adding to the mix are two mobile businesses: a fishmonger and ice cream vendor.


In the middle of 2007 the Canaipa Shops which housed the takeaway, hardware store, hairdresser and bakery was torn down to make way for a large new supermarket and six smaller retail stores--including the most of the former tenants{{Ref|russell_island_business}} due to open on 28 July 2008.
Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/131.111.243.37|131.111.243.37]] ([[User talk:131.111.243.37|talk]]) 02:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Just because you are using a different port does not make it less secure. The security is in the encrypted traffic between the two computers and the password you use when you login. So, I may be able to try and SSH into your computer on port 8080, but without knowing your password, there is nothing I can do. You aren't using "password" as your password, are you? -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 02:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

::The -D option makes the SSH client listen as a SOCKS proxy on that port on the client computer and forward connections through the SSH directly to the other side. So the OP has a legitimate concern that if his computer is now listening on that port to allow his applications to use it, other people might be able to use it too. --[[User:Spoon!|Spoon!]] ([[User talk:Spoon!|talk]]) 04:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

:The answer is that, by default, the SSH client only listens for port forwarding connections on the localhost, and so only programs from your own computer can use it. There is a setting in ssh_config called "GatewayPorts" (see the ssh_config(5) man page) which if enabled allows remote hosts to connect to forwarded ports too; but this option is disabled by default. --[[User:Spoon!|Spoon!]] ([[User talk:Spoon!|talk]]) 04:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Thank you; that's exactly what I was concerned about, and it's good to know I have nothing to worry about. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/131.111.243.37|131.111.243.37]] ([[User talk:131.111.243.37|talk]]) 09:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::: Don't do this on a multi-user system, though. If someone else can log onto the same computer as you're using, they can also connect to that port. —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 18:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Run a command at startup ==

Hello,
I am running [[PCLinuxOS]] inside [http://www.virtualbox.org/ Virtual Box] and I want to automatically mount the shared folder at startup because I don't want to run the command '''mount -t vboxsf vmshared /mnt/share''' everytime I start the VM.

I also have Ubuntu in VBox. In Ubuntu all I did was created [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Knownot/Sandbox this] script in my home partition and added the line '''/home/abhishek/mount.sh''' to the end of the file /etc/rc.local and it worked. But this is not working in PCLinuxOS. Is there something I'm doing wrong or any other alternative method to do this? Thanks -[[User:Knownot|Abhishek]] <sup> [[User talk:Knownot| Talk]] </sup><sup>|[[Special:Contributions/Knownot|Contribs]]</sup> 10:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

: Oh and I also made the script executable with chmod a+x -[[User:Knownot|Abhishek]] <sup> [[User talk:Knownot| Talk]] </sup><sup>|[[Special:Contributions/Knownot|Contribs]]</sup> 10:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

: The normal way of mounting a given filesystem on system startup is to add the appropriate entry to <tt>/etc/fstab</tt> (see <tt>man -S 5 fstab</tt>). This is not recommended for network filesystems (as the network being down or the remote filesystem's provider being off makes your bootup hang) - but if in this case the thing you're mounting is really on the same physical computer (presumably its an fs on the hosting OS) then this is generally safe enough. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 15:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

:I agree - it would be very tricky to put the mount command into an auto-start setup because the UNIX/Linux autostart mechanism is complicated - when in the startup sequence do you want your command to run? Presumably after the networking system is up and running - but before the program pops up the "LOGIN:" screen. That's why you do it in the /etc/fstab - it's guaranteed to do this stuff at the appropriate time. You can avoid your machine hanging when a networked file system won't automount - you make it a 'soft' mount instead of a hard one. That results in the mount command for the soft-mounted partition being backgrounded if it doesn't pop up immediately. You can specify a timeout and a number of retries too - the information about that is also in the 'mount' manual page. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 00:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== Error message ==

Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WLOW, from 198.85.212.10 via sq35.wikimedia.org (squid/2.6.STABLE21) to ()
Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno (11) Resource temporarily unavailable at Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:11:26 GMT[[User:Vchimpanzee|<font color="Green">Vchimpanzee</font>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[User talk:Vchimpanzee|<span style="color: orange"> talk</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee|<span style="color: purple">contributions</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' 14:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

:Whatever caused this, try it again. Wikipedia often hiccoughs but usually does something right next time. If this isn't the case, please expalin what you were trying to do. -- [[User:SGBailey|SGBailey]] ([[User talk:SGBailey|talk]]) 15:05, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to come here later in the day, but I posted as soon as it worked. I had been trying for several minutes just to post and couldn't. Perhaps I should have said something about that[[User:Vchimpanzee|<font color="Green">Vchimpanzee</font>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[User talk:Vchimpanzee|<span style="color: orange"> talk</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Vchimpanzee|<span style="color: purple">contributions</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' 15:48, 1 October 2008 (UTC).

== Itunes ==

Is there a way I can switch back to the older version of itunes? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/64.119.61.7|64.119.61.7]] ([[User talk:64.119.61.7|talk]]) 23:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Try oldversion.com - or put it in google (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=old+version&meta=) [[Special:Contributions/194.221.133.226|194.221.133.226]] ([[User talk:194.221.133.226|talk]]) 08:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

= October 1 =

== Reconstructor and Graphical Chroot? ==

Hi, I have the latest version of [[reconstructor]] (2.8.1), and I think it already has support for graphical apps in the [[chroot|chrooted]] environment, (by looking at the source, it seems to automatically do many things needed for that) but I don't know how to start the graphical chroot... I open the chrooted terminal, and now what?!? Is anyone familiar with this program? [[User:SF007|SF007]] ([[User talk:SF007|talk]]) 00:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

See: http://reconstructor.aperantis.com/index.php?option=com_joomlaboard&Itemid=44&func=view&id=1054&catid=3

== Winamp tags ==

When I add a new play list to winamp all the songs have their file names as the song names in the list. And as I scroll over them they slowly change over to their tagged details. Is there any way to make them automatically show their tagged name before I scroll over them? Thanks [[Special:Contributions/203.202.144.223|203.202.144.223]] ([[User talk:203.202.144.223|talk]]) 00:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:In Winamp 5.5, the relevant setting is in Preferences, General Preferences, Titles. There are three choices there that select when Winamp reads metadata: when files are loaded, when files are visible in the playlist window, or only when files are played. It warns that reading the metadata at load can be slow if many files are added at once. --[[User:Bavi H|Bavi H]] ([[User talk:Bavi H|talk]]) 03:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== A Template Metaprogram for the Ackermann Function ==
I am trying to write a metaprogram for the [[Ackermann Function]] and have written this so far:
template<typename M, typename N>
class Ackermann
{
public:
enum{ result = Ackermann<M-1, Ackermann<M, N-1>::result>::result };
};

template<typename M>
class Ackermann<M, 0>
{
public:
enum{ result = Ackermann<M-1, 1>::result };
};

template<typename N>
class Ackermann<0,N>
{
public:
enum{ result = N+1 };
};
The first error I am getting is that second parameter in the first enum is incorrect, any ideas how that can be fixed? Also, for the other two templates, I am getting "expected a type got 0" error (which makes sense for the third template, but I cant figure out a way to get rid of the third template yet). I have also tried using a conditional '?' in the first enum for the last enum i.e
result = M ? N+1 : Ackermann<M-1, Ackermann<M, N-1>::result>::result
but that too doesn't seem to work. Maybe I am just missing something fundamental. Any comments shall be helpful. Thanks in advance! [[User:Akanksh|Aks...]] ([[User talk:Akanksh|talk]]) 00:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:First thing, M and N should be "int" instead of "typename". --[[User:Spoon!|Spoon!]] ([[User talk:Spoon!|talk]]) 03:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== Regular Expression for... ==

Grabbing the text within <>'s, like:
"Mr. John Doe" <johnd@fakeemail.com>

Thanks <small><span style="border:1px solid #955619;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#955619;">[[User:Louis Waweru|<b>Louis Waweru</b>]]</font> [[User_talk:Louis Waweru|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#955619;">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 00:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:The syntax depends on what you are programming the regex in. One way to write it is "/<([^>]*)>/". Everything between ( and ) will be a sub-match of the entire match from < to >. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 00:43, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

::Thank you, I'll see if I can wrap my head around it. I was hoping to do it in Word's Find/Replace box, if you know how to do that it would help because it's a real world problem. But I have Visual Studio and have been meaning to learn regular expressions, so I might wind up creating a sample project. Thanks for giving me something to dissect. <small><span style="border:1px solid #955619;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#955619;">[[User:Louis Waweru|<b>Louis Waweru</b>]]</font> [[User_talk:Louis Waweru|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#955619;">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 00:53, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:::The "/" and "/" at the beginning and end are just "this is a regular expression" holders. Everything between them is a regular expression. I don't know what Word uses to encase regular expressions. The < means "look for a <". The ( and ) mean "keep an eye on everything in here because I may want to use it later." The [ and ] mean "I am explaining more than one character here." The ^ means "anything except." The >'s mean "look for the > character." the * means "zero or more repetitions of the previous thing." All put together, this says "look for a <. Then, keep an eye on everything that isn't a > until you find a >." -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 01:33, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't have the latest version of word, but earlier versions (I still use Word97) have an imcomplete regular expression implementation. In the search and replace dialog, check the "use wildcards" option, set "Find what" to <pre>"[ -~]@" [<]([ -~]@)[>]</pre> and "Replace with:" to <pre>\1</pre>. The "[ -~]" is an imperfect attempt to capture spaces and printable ASCII characters (acented or extended characters might not be omitted), but not line breaks. The "@" looks for 1 or more repetitions of the preceeding item. The "[<]" and "[>]" matches just those characters (as opposed to "<" and ">" which matches the beginning and end of a word). The "(...)" captures whatever is matched within, and is represented by "\1" in the replace expression. Hope this helps. If you have a comma or semicolon separated list, you might have to modify the "[ -~] with something like "[- -+.-:<-~]" which includes the ASCII characters excluding the comma and colon (dash, space-to-plus, period-to-colon, and lessthan-to-tilda). See [[ASCII]]. I suggest you capture the operation into a macro. Hope this helps. -- [[User:Tcncv|Tcncv]] ([[User talk:Tcncv|talk]]) 02:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Wow, excellent! Thanks you two. Tcncv, that still works in Word 2007. I was able to change it a bit to catch the lines that were slightly different. I don't think I will be coming up with a single expression to catch them all at once anytime soon though, haha. Confusing stuff, thanks again! For your amusement, here is the only time I wrote a regular expression, behold! <pre><rewrite url="~/Tagged-(.+).aspx" to="~/Browse.aspx?tag=$1" /></pre> <small><span style="border:1px solid #955619;padding:1px;"><font style="color:#955619;">[[User:Louis Waweru|<b>Louis Waweru</b>]]</font> [[User_talk:Louis Waweru|<font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#955619;">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 03:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== IP subnet mask ==

is 0.0.0.0 a valid subnet mask ? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:R.srinivaas|R.srinivaas]] ([[User talk:R.srinivaas|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/R.srinivaas|contribs]]) 05:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:That would be one giant subnet. A subnet called "The Internet". That would include all possible IP addresses, so it wouldn't really be a "subnet" per-se. If you're asking if there is something theoretically wrong with it, no, I would guess not. But it's not something you would enter into your router configuration [[Special:Contributions/90.235.17.83|90.235.17.83]] ([[User talk:90.235.17.83|talk]]) 12:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

::If, by chance, you answered 0.0.0.0 on homework or a test, I would count it wrong. There is no valid use of 0.0.0.0 as a subnet mask that I know of. I would require you to show that you understand what a subnet mask is by showing me a valid use for 0.0.0.0 since answering with 0.0.0.0 indicates that you don't know what a subnet mask is. If you did show me a valid use for it, I would amend the grade and thank you for teaching me something new. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 17:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Considering that he asked if it is a "valid" mask and not is it a "useful" mask, I would have to say your conclusion is superficial. In addition, I can think of a perfectly good "use" for an all-0 subnet mask, it would be the equivalent of setting the gateway to 127.0.0.1, that is, traffic is voluntarily sequestered on the local subnet. --[[Special:Contributions/66.195.232.121|66.195.232.121]] ([[User talk:66.195.232.121|talk]]) 17:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

::::As I said, if this were on a test, I would have counted it wrong and asked you what a good use for 0.0.0.0 would be. If you answered that it would be the equivalent of setting the gateway to 127.0.0.1, I would have changed it to be correct. My response was based on 90.235.17.83's response and I was just trying further clarify between being "valid" and being "correct". -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 22:51, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for answering ....
With so many blocks still available, three real estate offices trade well. Two licensed clubs, an [[Returned and Services League of Australia|RSL]], bowls club provide entertainment and bistro facilities.
but RFC 1878 states that
A generously sized Council-built hall is available.
*Subnet all zeroes and all ones excluded. (Obsolete)
Some church denominations meet there but others use the historic St Peters Church Hall just up High Street.
*Host all zeroes and all ones excluded. (Obsolete)
Electricians, builders and plumbers are resident on the Island, making the island somewhat self-supportive.

Services include power, phone, broadband, water and garbage collection but sewerage and tarring of the vast majority of streets is still some time away.
but routers still accept 0.0.0.0 as subnet why ? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:R.srinivaas|R.srinivaas]] ([[User talk:R.srinivaas|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/R.srinivaas|contribs]]) 07:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Garbage is trucked to the mainland for disposal. Both the Rural Fire Brigade and the Ambulance service receive strong volunteer support.

On 12 April 2008, a public 50 metre swimming pool jointly funded by the Redland City Council, the Queensland State Government, a rates levy and nearly 20 years of donations from residents was completed. Management has been contracted to the YMCA. The first bathers hit the water during that weekend but, lacking any heating, it was closed for the winter.{{Ref|russell_island_pool}}
:Programmers for them didn't feel like writing extra code to reject obsolete subnets and hosts. There's no deep answer here. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 12:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
A small primary school for around 180 students has an active [[Parents and Citizens]] club.
:The dictionary would like a word with you... it's "obsolete". --[[Special:Contributions/66.195.232.121|66.195.232.121]] ([[User talk:66.195.232.121|talk]]) 19:55, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Another big event for the island on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 when the $1.2m Police Station was opened by the Queensland Police Minister, <ref>Judy Spence</ref>, bringing Senior Constable Michael Verry to the island as its first Community Policeman.

However,[[Queensland Police]] make frequent visits to the island with a high-speed barge <ref>Stewart Kerlin</ref> carrying two police vehicles.
== to write a complex program on multiplication ==

''How to write a program to print the multiplication table of a number such that it prints
the multiplication table of that number & also the numbers preceding it?[[User:Newtondon87|Newtondon87]] ([[User talk:Newtondon87|talk]]) 07:41, 1 October 2008 (UTC)<code></code>''

:: That sounds like a for loop for the multiplication table inside a for loop for each table. ~~ ----
::: I meant <nowiki>-- ~~~~</nowiki> not ~~ ----. -- [[User:SGBailey|SGBailey]] ([[User talk:SGBailey|talk]]) 17:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:: sounds like homework you mean :) but heres a hint Newtondon87 dont try and solve it all in one go. first just write a function which just prints the multiplication table for a number. e.g. 5. then when you've got that working, modify the function so it'll print the multiplication table for any number you pass to it, then when you've got that bit working modify it again to do the next bit and so on. [[User:Mission Fleg|Mission Fleg]] ([[User talk:Mission Fleg|talk]]) 10:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

==Edit "Open With" context menu in Windows Explorer==
How do I add, change or remove items in the "Open With" menu? This is the menu that pops up when you right-click a filename displayed in Windows Explorer. (I have Windows XP SP2.)

For example, if I right-click a file with a ".rtf" extension I get options to open it with MS Word and WordPad, but I wish to change the list for that extension and other ones as well.--[[Special:Contributions/85.158.137.195|85.158.137.195]] ([[User talk:85.158.137.195|talk]]) 10:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:I don't have XP in English, so I might be giving the wrong names for the menu-items. But here's what you do: in the Open With submenu, there's a list of programs that you can open the file with. At the bottom of that submenu, there's an additional item that says something like "Select program" or something (as I said, I don't have it in English). Press that, and it will give you a list of programs that you have installed. Open the file with whatever program you want, and from then on, that program will be in the menu [[Special:Contributions/90.235.17.83|90.235.17.83]] ([[User talk:90.235.17.83|talk]]) 12:38, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

::I'm not the OP, but I would also like to know if there's a way to ''remove'' options from the Open With and other right-click menus. For example, I have Paint Shop Pro installed. When I right-click on the recycle bin to empty it, the option to "Browse in Paint Shop Pro" is right underneath it. That would be a complete waste of time, so I'd like to get rid of that option. DreamWeaver options also show up in weird places. [[User:Matt Deres|Matt Deres]] ([[User talk:Matt Deres|talk]]) 20:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:::For your Paint Shop Pro item, I recommend you look in the settings of Paint Shop Pro first.

:::Removing items from the Open With menu seems to require a registry edit: [http://support.microsoft.com/kb/258860 How to Remove Programs from the "Open With" List].

:::Removing items from the main context menu for a file type can be done via Control Panel, Folder Options, File Types.

:::*'''Warning''': Do not edit the settings for "Drive", "File Folder", or "Folder" types unless you are technical user comfortable with modifying the registry. If you edit the "Drive" or "File Folder" types, double-clicking on drives or folders will act strange, and you will need to follow this [http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321186 registry modification] to correct the problem. Also, the Folder Options control panel doesn't allow you to edit or remove items from these types, even if you added them yourself. If you add items using the Folder Options control panel, you will have to use Registry Editor if you want to remove them later. (In Registry Editor you can go to HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT and find "Drive", "Directory", and "Folder" keys which correspond to the "Drive", "File Folder" and "Folder" types in the Folder Options control panel. In each one, the subkey "shell" contains the context menu items.)

:::*The "Drive" type contains context menu items for drive icons (root folders) only. The "File Folder"/"Directory" type contains context menu items for other non-root, non-special folders only. The "Folder" type contains context menu items for every drive, folder, special folder, or other container in Windows. The Paint Shop Pro item appearing when you right click on the Recycle Bin will be found in the "Folder" type. However, if you remove it, then it will be removed from the context menus of all folders and containers.

:::*If you are comfortable modifying the registry, then you can consider the following. Remove the item from the "Folder" type, then add it to the "Drive" and "File Folder"/"Directory" types. If you used the Folder Options control panel, then follow the registry modification mentioned above to get drives and folders working correctly when you double-click on them. These modifications will show the item in the context menu of drives and other normal folders, and remove it from all other special folders and containers. --[[User:Bavi H|Bavi H]] ([[User talk:Bavi H|talk]]) 04:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

::::Thanks everyone - most helpful.--[[Special:Contributions/92.41.251.222|92.41.251.222]] ([[User talk:92.41.251.222|talk]]) 05:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC) (OP)

== games in laptop ==

hi,i think of buying a computer.i want to play a lot of games.my friend told me that laptops will get damaged if u play a lot of games.if we connect a key board to it,will there be any damage?i mean damage to software,hard drive etc.. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/203.199.213.66|203.199.213.66]] ([[User talk:203.199.213.66|talk]]) 13:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:I've never heard of laptops getting damaged from "playing a lot of games". I'm not sure it's something you ought to be seriously worried about. --[[Special:Contributions/98.217.8.46|98.217.8.46]] ([[User talk:98.217.8.46|talk]]) 13:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:Did he say what kind of damage he was worried about? [[User:APL|APL]] ([[User talk:APL|talk]]) 13:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:Maybe keyboard/touchpad damage from mashing the keys? It won't damage the hard drive or any other part. Installing a game might cause problems with other software, but that's not any more likely on a laptop than a desktop. -- [[User:BenRG|BenRG]] ([[User talk:BenRG|talk]]) 16:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:If by "playing a lot of games" you mean games like tennis, hockey or boxing, then I would say "yes, your laptop has a good chance of getting damaged, and always wear eye protection if you're throwing the laptop around..." &mdash; Sam 21:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:You need quite a good laptop to play games well and it'll probably drain the battery quickly. For the same amount of money you may be better off getting a lower class of portable for word processing and suchlike plus a dedicated games machine.

:: Well, most laptops have horrendous cooling capabilities (compared to larger computers such as a desktop or those that are immersed in [[Fluorinert]]), so if you are playing a game that stresses the hardware for many hours at a time, that ''might'' reduce the lifetime of the laptop if the laptop has a powerful-ish [[microprocessor]] and [[GPU]] (which most don't) due to heat. [[User:Rilak|Rilak]] ([[User talk:Rilak|talk]]) 09:13, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:I have been playing games on my laptop for years with no problems (none attribuable to it being a laptop, anyway). However, a few things to note - if you're going to using an external mouse/keyboard, you will likely be plugging and unplugging them more often than with a desktop. USB connectors are fairly solid, but apply ''too'' much force and it will break. Also, more importantly, laptops are usually not designed for graphics-intensive activities such as gaming (especially more modern games). You will probably have to pay dearly for a laptop which will play the latest games well, plus, such machines will inevitably run very very hot and go through their battery like there's no tomorrow. &mdash; [[User:QuantumEleven|Quantum]]<i>[[User_talk:QuantumEleven|Eleven]]</i> 14:47, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:: The question then would be what sort of games and what kind of laptop. Playing something like Snakes on a low-power VIA-based laptop with integrated graphics for hours isn't going to do much harm, but if it made the laptop a bit too warm to touch, there might be a problem. [[User:Rilak|Rilak]] ([[User talk:Rilak|talk]]) 08:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

:::That's true, it obviously depends what kind of gaming you want to do. &mdash; [[User:QuantumEleven|Quantum]]<i>[[User_talk:QuantumEleven|Eleven]]</i> 11:41, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Tablet PC ==

Hellow friends, I am a newcomer in computer field. I am a medical student. I want to buy something computer related/digital device(but neither a laptop nor a fixed PC) that can help me in my studies. I have study material in the form of Power Point presentations, media player files, office word pages, PDF files, pictures, diccionaries. Is there anything that can help me in my studies (excluding a laptop and a fixed PC).
What about a Tablet PC? What is this ? Will u help me to know about its peculiarities,its prices and its comparison to a laptop? I will b very thankful. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.220.215.13|201.220.215.13]] ([[User talk:201.220.215.13|talk]]) 14:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:A Tablet PC is basically a specialized laptop, normally with the ability to flip around the screen so that you may use your handwriting on it.
:Why no laptop or desktop? I would think that a laptop would be the best choice for you if you have Powerpoints, media, office, PDF, pictures ''and'' dictionaries to work with. [[User:Washii|Washii]] ([[User talk:Washii|talk]]) 15:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

::As Washii points out - there are only two things that make a laptop a tablet. First, if you can shut your laptop such that the screen's display is facing out, like a tablet, then it is most likely a tablet. Second, if you can also write on the screen using a stylus, then it is definitely a tablet. Other than those two things, a tablet is just a laptop. They are not smaller, lighter, or cheaper than laptops. They are just laptops with two extra little features. I know a lot of doctors who love them. I know many who don't like them. I know many who refuse to acknowledge that computers exist. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 16:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

== Wikipedia on iPod ==

I just got an iPod Touch, and I have read somewhere on Wikipedia that there is a way to download a static version of Wikipedia without pictures onto the iPod. Yes, the Touch gets Internet, but I'm not always around Wi-Fi, so it would be nice to have this even though it takes up tons of space. Where might this program be? Thanks, <font color="#1EC112" size="3px">[[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]</font><sup><font color="#45E03A">[[User talk:Reywas92|'''Talk''']]</font></sup> 20:29, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:[http://encyclopodia.sourceforge.net/en/index.html Encyclopodia]. Unfortunately, it's not compatible with the iPod touch. If you happen to have an older iPod lying around, though, give it a go; it's compatible with the iPod mini and 1st through 4th generation (full-size) iPods. --[[User:CalusReyma|CalusReyma]] ([[User talk:CalusReyma|talk]]) 22:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Darn, but thanks. Though I'm pretty sure that it was some article in the Wikipedia namespace. I definitely don't remember seeing that website, and it worked with more versions of iPods, so there must be a few different versions of this out there. <font color="#1EC112" size="3px">[[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]</font><sup><font color="#45E03A">[[User talk:Reywas92|'''Talk''']]</font></sup> 02:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe one of these will help: [[Wikipedia:Database download]], [[Wikipedia:TomeRaider database]], [[mw:Alternative parsers]] --[[User:Spoon!|Spoon!]] ([[User talk:Spoon!|talk]]) 03:44, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I've done some Googling and I think [http://lifehacker.com/355036/put-all-of-wikipedia-on-your-iphone-or-ipod-touch this Lifehacker article] may be what you're looking for. You'll need to jailbreak your iPod, though, and if you've got the new 2nd gen Touch, you'll be out of luck, as these can't be jailbroken just yet. --[[User:CalusReyma|CalusReyma]] ([[User talk:CalusReyma|talk]]) 09:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Which Linux distro should I install on Parallels? ==

Ok, ok, I know this is a little bit like starting a post entitled "Which is better, Macs or PCs?" but hopefully I'll get a couple ideas and can ignore the flame from everyone else... ;)

I'm a programmer (Java, some web technologies) working mostly on a Mac, and doing a fair but of command-line unixy stuff with it. I'm thinking of installing a Linux ditro on my Parallels in order to improve my unix experience. Which distribution would you recommend (e.g. Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, etc), both in terms of real-world practicality, and it terms of ease of installing? Any thoughts welcome!

Thanks! &mdash; Sam 20:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:The normal recommendation tends to be [[Ubuntu]], mainly for ease of install and its fairly large and supportive community. [[CentOS]] isn't a bad choice either, and there are countless others. Really, it's hard to make a "bad choice".
:There's two other related things I want to note though. #1: [[VMWare Fusion]] is totally better than Parallels. #2: OS X ''is'' a Unix-certified OS, so if that's all you want to get out of it it's right there.
:And FYI, your IP address is still in the page history (history tab at the top). -- [[User:Consumed Crustacean|Consumed Crustacean]] <small>([[User talk:Consumed Crustacean|talk]])</small> 21:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks for the recommendation. I was in fact just looking at a fairly simple Ubuntu installation walk-through. And as for the FYI, I just hate that wretched SineBot. I sign my name and timestamp it with tildes as well, every time I post. If I'm vandalizing, someone will find out PDQ, without needing extra junk attached to the end of my signature each time I write a message. It makes those of us who don't feel like logging in or having our IP stuck everywhere feel like we're being cattle branded or something. </end rant> &mdash; Sam 21:19, 1 October 2008 (UTC)<!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::Yeah, there is almost nothing to installing Ubuntu. Download the ISO image. Start VMware, create a new Linux VM, feed it the ISO (in the virtual machine settings, go to the CD/DVD drive options, easy to find), and start the VM. It should boot off the disc, you can proceed with installing Ubuntu (easy to do, just follow instructions), and all will be good in the world. -- [[User:Consumed Crustacean|Consumed Crustacean]] <small>([[User talk:Consumed Crustacean|talk]])</small> 01:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:Consumed Crustacean is right, [http://www.ubuntu.com/ Ubuntu] is probably the best distro for starters, and I also think [[VMware]] software is better than [[Parallels, Inc.|Parallels]]... [[User:SF007|SF007]] ([[User talk:SF007|talk]]) 21:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

:If you want to try a virtualizer that doesn't cost anything, you might give [[VirtualBox]] a spin. I haven't used it, personally, though. --[[Special:Contributions/98.217.8.46|98.217.8.46]] ([[User talk:98.217.8.46|talk]]) 02:47, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

= October 2 =

== monitor driver issues after reformat ==

I just reformatted and reinstalled win xp home on my dell. The screen resolution has defaulted to 640x480. I went into 'Display Properties > Settings' to change it, but the slider wouldn't budge which makes me think the driver for my monitor isn't installed (which makes zero sense). I continued on to 'advanced > monitor' where I saw that the monitor was set to "default monitor." the dialog box would not allow me to push the 'properties' button to specify a monitor/driver. I dug out a dell resource cd titled 'drivers and utilities' but found no clear solutions there. Any ideas? --[[User:Shaggorama|Shaggorama]] ([[User talk:Shaggorama|talk]]) 04:55, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:It's not your monitor, but your graphics card driver. What graphics card do you have? If it's a Dell why didn't you just use its recovery software? --[[User: Antilived|antilived]]<sup>[[User_talk:Antilived|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Antilived|C]] | [[User:Antilived/Gallery|G]]</sup> 06:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:i managed to have the issue resolved by dell tech support. Apparently there was a whole slew of drivers I assumed had been installed but were on a separate disk. noob --> [[User:Shaggorama|Shaggorama]] ([[User talk:Shaggorama|talk]]) 07:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Windows ME ==

I like to use windows ME. My usual computer crashed so I went to my backup computer which is older. I had put in a new hard drive and installed windows ME. But when I turn the compuer on it says "loading os". I have waited for over an hour and it does not load. The system does meet the requirements. What must I do? I would really appreciate any help. Thank you. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.16.170.143|173.16.170.143]] ([[User talk:173.16.170.143|talk]]) 12:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Did you install windows ME on the crashed computer or on your backup computer? [[User:10minnickm|31306D696E6E69636B6D]] ([[User talk:10minnickm|talk]]) 13:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::My vote is to install Windows XP instead of ME. [[User:Useight|Useight]] ([[User talk:Useight|talk]]) 16:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::The support for [[Windows ME]] ended on 11 July 2006, so I second [[User:Useight|Useight]] on that. Alternatively try a free OS based on [[Linux]] or [[BSD]] if the backup computer doesn't meet the system requirements of Windows XP. -- [[User:Reep|Reep]] ([[User talk:Reep|talk]]) 23:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

::::Windows ME is a horrible operating system compared to XP - ME's flakey as all hell and XP is actually pretty stable. If you can get a copy of XP to install - that's probably your best option (unless, of course you're ready for Linux...which I'd '''''certainly''''' recommend to keep an older machine running on the cheap). [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 02:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow. "Hey this guy can't run windows ME on his PC because it doesn't meet system requirements. Lets recommend something with higher system requirements!"
To the question asker, since you are used to 9x systems and your PC isn't powerful enough to run Windows ME I'd suggest hunting down a copy of Windows 98 SE (the SE part is important).
While in some ways it is worse than ME (driver installation for instance) it is better in others, and also doesn't need as powerful a system. [[Special:Contributions/88.211.96.3|88.211.96.3]] ([[User talk:88.211.96.3|talk]]) 12:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Excel VBA question ==

Just a quick question I hope someone can help me with. On a TI-83 calculator under mode there's an option to have imaginary numbers display in a+bi mode. Is there any kind of command to do that in VBA? Thanks in advance for your help. [[User:Deltacom1515|Deltacom1515]] ([[User talk:Deltacom1515|talk]]) 16:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not sure which version of Excel you have, but this [http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel/HP052090191033.aspx microsoft.com page] may be hinting towards what you need. [[User:Laenir|Laenir]] ([[User talk:Laenir|talk]]) 18:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dual booting linux and windows ==

I'm trying to install Linux (Fedora) for the first time. I found instructions on partitioning my hard drive [http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/linux/doc/linux-windows-dual-boot-resing-ntfs.html here] and have downloaded Fedora and burned it to a disk (after verifying the sha1 checksum). What I want to know is, will installing Fedora now erase all the files I have on my Windows partition? Will they be completely seperate? And will I be able to select between Windows and Fedora when I turn on my computer? I want to still be able to access Windows so that my parents can use this computer. Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/86.164.163.72|86.164.163.72]] ([[User talk:86.164.163.72|talk]]) 17:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:> What I want to know is, will installing Fedora now erase all the files I have on my Windows partition?
:No. You have to have it shrink the Windows partition and use the other space for Fedora.
:> Will they be completely separate?
:Yes. But you will be able to access your Windows partition from within Linux.
:> Will I be able to select between Windows and Fedora when I turn on my computer?
:Yes.
:Also, you might want to get some more updated instructions. The current [[Fedora (operating system)|Fedora]] is Fedora 9 (soon to be Fedora 10 next month). That page is about Fedora Core 1, from 2003. So some things might be different. --[[Special:Contributions/71.106.183.17|71.106.183.17]] ([[User talk:71.106.183.17|talk]]) 18:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::yeah im using the fedora 9 installation guide on their site for most of the info, i just used that link to find out how to partition my hard drive :) thanks for the info, i am much less nervous about installing now! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.164.163.72|86.164.163.72]] ([[User talk:86.164.163.72|talk]]) 20:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:::Just to clarify, now a days, you don't need to partition your drive before installing a Linux distribution, because distributions now have partitioning applications that can create, remove and resize existing partitions (including partitions with [[FAT]] and [[NTFS]]) during installation. Just make sure you read the options the installer gives you before you click "Next", there's probably an option to wipe the whole drive and install linux on the whole drive, so don't choose that one ;) -- [[User:Reep|Reep]] ([[User talk:Reep|talk]]) 23:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:Make sure you backup all your Windows data before you begin, just in case. - [[User:Akamad|Akamad]] ([[User talk:Akamad|talk]]) 22:10, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

If it's done 100% correctly - you can have all of your Windows files kept intact (although with considerably less free disk space!) and Linux happily installed off on it's own chunk of the drive. Once that's done, Windows is blissfully unaware that Linux is there - and Linux will be blissfully unaware that Windows is there (unless you choose to mount the windows partition under Linux so you can copy files back and forth. '''However''', it's ''alarmingly'' easy to misread a dialog or misunderstand what it's asking - and then you can VERY easily trash your Windows partition...AND the 'hidden backup' partition that most laptops have to allow you to reinstall Windows in the event of a disaster!! So whatever you do:

# Make a "windows recovery CD" before you even take that Linux CD out of the wrapper! Make two - the first one might not work!
# Back up all of the files that matter to you - you don't want to risk losing a single thing.
# Read carefully what the Linux installer is saying to you - take your time. If there is something you don't understand - come back here to the RD and ask our resident Linux geeks before you carry on.

For the super-nervous - you can install some of the smaller Linux distro's on a flash drive - or an external USB hard drive. In the past (when I was still dual-booting - I'm 100% linux these days) I bought a second hard drive to install Linux on - and actually unplugged the Windows drive to be 100% sure I wasn't going to screw it up. But the advantage of installing on a flash drive is that you can unplug it from your PC and all trace of it is definitely gone. If you set up your BIOS to try to boot from USB first - and from the hard drive second - then you plug in the "Linux widget" and hit the reset button to get into Linux - pull it out and hit the button again to get back into Windows. This is good if you have warranty or service contract on your computer - or if it belongs to your company or something.

As for booting - your distro installer will probably install "GRUB" - it sits on the hard drive where the Windows boot-up code usually lives. You can choose at that point how you want the system to start up. You can have it come up with a little text-mode menu ("Hit 1 for Linux, 2 for Windows" kind of thing) and you can have it boot into one or other operating system "by default" if nobody hits a key within some number of seconds that you can also set. So have it boot into Windows if nobody hit a key within (say) 5 seconds - and your parents won't have to do anything special to get Windows to boot up. You can install other programs and different versions of operating systems - that install on that same menu. I have a built-in RAM-check program and two different Linux versions installed on my boot menu for example. With care you can even get it to boot between Windows XP and Windows Vista and Linux and BSD-Unix...it's a great little tool.

But once you've done the whole installation thing a few times, you'll know what's going on - it'll get a lot easier.

[[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] ([[User talk:SteveBaker|talk]]) 02:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Is there a street atlas with municipal borders on the web? ==

Google maps and expedia don't have municipal borders. Thanks! [[User:Nero y|Nero y]] ([[User talk:Nero y|talk]]) 17:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:Have you tried [http://tiger.census.gov/cgi-bin/mapbrowse-tbl tiger]? It has a lot of stuff the other maps don't have (as it is not designed to be a user-friendly direction finder). -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 17:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, its quality is not very good, and the map is pretty little. But anyway, how can I see there the municipal borders? [[User:Nero y|Nero y]] ([[User talk:Nero y|talk]]) 18:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

::::On the right, there are a lot of checkboxes to have it draw city, county, state... borders. If you are looking for a specific type of municipal border (ie: the border between Barry Harbor and Barry Heights in North Kansas City), then ask for specifically what you want. As you've asked, showing city and town borders is showing municipal borders. And, yes, it isn't great for scrolling around and looking at the map like Google Maps is. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 22:47, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

::IIRC Google Earth has these minor borders - not exactly "on the web" I know, but it uses data streamed from the web. [[User:Astronaut|Astronaut]] ([[User talk:Astronaut|talk]]) 17:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm not familiar with that. Can I use it thru the browser? [[User:Nero y|Nero y]] ([[User talk:Nero y|talk]]) 18:24, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::::No, but it's easy to download. See [[Google Earth]] for more information. [[User:Anonymous101|Anonymous101]] ([[User talk:Anonymous101|talk]]) 20:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, I downloaded it, but can't find the municipal borders... I guess that if they had it - they would have put them in Google maps as well... AM I wrong? [[User:Nero y|Nero y]] ([[User talk:Nero y|talk]]) 08:55, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Norton 360 ==

If i bought the original version of Norton 360 and put it on my computer, then updated it, would i autmoatically then have the version 2.0?[[User:Jwking|Jwking]] ([[User talk:Jwking|talk]]) 22:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

:I would think twice about getting a Norton product unless it is required. Unless things have changed in the last two years, uninstalling the Norton product will be a PITA! [[User:Kushal one|Kushal]] ([[User talk:Kushal one|talk]]) 22:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::That's what the Norton Removal Tool (made ''by'' Symantec) is for (should be first result on Google with those three words in order). It also has the nice side-effect of removing the horrid lockdown that will be left behind from a normal uninstall on XP SP2 and above. Just don't uninstall first, or it won't be as effective. Use the tool to uninstall. [[User:Washii|Washii]] ([[User talk:Washii|talk]]) 03:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
: Some googling reveals that users of the original version got free upgrades to version 2, so I'm pretty sure you would get a free upgrade. Symantec makes most of their money from subscriptions anyway. --[[User:Wj32|wj32]] <sup>[[User talk:Wj32|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Wj32|c]]</sup> 02:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


= October 3 =

== Virtualization ==

Man, it seems every day people get more and more excited about virtual machines and the likes. My question is, My friends and I have a gag that we like to try and see how deeply of a virtualizing we can get (Virtualbox in parallel in virtualbox and etc.) And we were thinking if there could actually be a practical application of multiple virtual machines... We could think of none. If the machine is being virtualized it has its limits from the program and blah blah blah. Does anyone have any counterstatements I can push back at them? I'm not talking about a master server running a DHCP server, and beside that a squid server, beside that etc. I'm talking about a computer running a dhcp server running a virtual box machine and inside that is another thing.

[[Special:Contributions/66.216.163.92|66.216.163.92]] ([[User talk:66.216.163.92|talk]]) 01:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

:I can only see testing a virtualization environment as the only worthwhile example. Assume you are a VMWare developer. You may want to test running virtualbox on it just to ensure it works. A second example, which I don't see as very valid because I disagree with the basic assumption of usefulness of the virtualization is a situation such as having every computer in an office running a virtualization image (so the IT staff only has to configure one computer, not all of them). Then, assume you work there and you want to run Linux on your virtual Windows box. You would be running some virtual OS in your virtual Windows. Of course, you wouldn't do that anyway since you would obviously kill the virtual Windows after a few days there and already have your computer reformatted and reinstalled with Linux. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 01:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

: One thing all the commercial virtualisation providers are interested in is providing a general market for generic virtualised computing, much like [[Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud]]. In that business model large enterprises would have large physical compute infrastructures (whether big iron like Suns and IBMs or clusters of more modest hardware) and they'd sell compute time on that wholesale. Between those wholesalers and the final users of compute power (small websites, university projects, individual users) there might be several layers of middlemen and retailers; they break stuff down to more affordable chunks, and also aggregate otherwise unrelated chunks (e.g. cheap chunks bought from anywhere that has idle time, geographically distributed chunks to allow quick response to distributed users). While making each layer of this compute-cloud economy a concentric layer of virtualisation is, from a technical standpoint, rather inefficient, it might nevertheless turn out to be the easy and pragmatic way to structure things for business reasons. Still, surely you'd only expect to be a few layers of virtualisation from the hardware (in even the most byzantine market structure), and the economic pressures of [[disintermediation]] should keep the depth down pretty low. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 12:15, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

:Depending on the environment(s) you chose, a [[Russian nested doll]] virtualization setup could assist in security isolation in either direction (top-down-- isolating something you trust, or bottom-up-- isolating something you definitely do NOT trust). Having a number of layered hypervisors, especially on different operating systems and of different programmatic backgrounds, would lend itself to a self-contained heterogeneous system that proved very resistant to "generic" vulnerabilities. Of course, the key to this is the security of the hypervisor and the code that ties one system to the next (such as the virtualized network stack), so you would need a deep understanding from top to bottom to assert that this is worth anything but a lot of CPU cycles and disk space. --[[Special:Contributions/66.195.232.121|66.195.232.121]] ([[User talk:66.195.232.121|talk]]) 19:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Forwarding in Firefox and IExplorer ==

Here at the office, we connect to the internet with Nortel Guesspass. That means that if we want to reach the outside world (and not only the intranet) we are prompted for our password through the browser. Unhappily, the page that prompts us don't work in IExplorer, but we don't know exactly why. This page has a self-made certificate (not recognized by any authority). In Firefox we are able to add an exception to accept this certificate, however, IExplorer do not let's us add an exception and so we are not able to login using IE.

Any solution? [[User:Mr.K.|Mr.K.]] [[User_talk:Mr.K.|(talk)]] 10:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

:Umm... Request IT to get a legitimate certificate and in the meantime, use Mozilla Firefox? Is there something specific that you are unable to accomplish in Mozilla Firefox? I would assume that once you are connected to the Internet, you can use any browser you want. [[User:Kushal one|Kushal]] ([[User talk:Kushal one|talk]]) 21:23, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== about array in VB ==

WHAT IS ARRAY? WHAT ARE THE VARIOUS TYPES OF ARRAYS IN VB? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/59.89.49.220|59.89.49.220]] ([[User talk:59.89.49.220|talk]]) 11:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Have a look at [[Array]] and [http://patorjk.com/programming/tutorials/vbarrays.htm this online tutorial]. Feel free to come back here with further questions. [[Special:Contributions/Zain Ebrahim111|Zain Ebrahim]] ([[User talk:Zain Ebrahim111|talk]]) 11:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Wrong Address on Google ==

Hello. I work for a non profit organisation which has a website listed on google. When you search for the name of our organisation, google's first hit is for our website - but the address and telephone number it lists is for a completely different business with a similar name. This has only happened recently - it's not from our site, it's the little map it shows at the top of google with the address and number. We've recently had a few calls from them saying that people have been calling them up when they're after us. What's the best way to get the address on google back to our address? [[User:Theorytest|Theorytest]] ([[User talk:Theorytest|talk]]) 12:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:It looks like Google provides some help on that question at their page [http://maps.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=17366&topic=14837 here.] [[User:Laenir|Laenir]] ([[User talk:Laenir|talk]]) 12:47, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

: Perhaps your organisation's website doesn't have the address on it, in an accepted format that Google can recognise. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 12:53, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Just curious about website domain names ==


==Features==
Why do you have to pay to get a domain name? For example if I want to create a website dhgfuigdagdhf.com, will I have to pay for the domain name? I don't believe anyone else is using this website right now, so isn't the domain name ''my own creation''? [[User:Knownot|Abhishek]] <sup> [[User talk:Knownot| Talk]] </sup> 15:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Russell Island has few beaches; the foreshore is mostly mud and [[mangrove]], there is little public land along the foreshore which is a pity because the views along the Canaipa Passage looking over to Stradbroke Island are some of the best in South East Queensland. Both the Lions Park at the southern end of the island and the small park and tidal swimming enclosure close to the barge ramp and jetty at the northern end, have barbecue and toilet facilities close by. The outstanding feature of the island is its vast wetlands areas, but there are no established walking tracks or nature trails to view them. These wetlands also mean that the island has a big warm season population of mosquitoes and midges. However, they are a part of a rich food chain that attracts thousands of migratory birds and crowds the waters with fish and crabs.
It is no surprise then than the most popular way of seeing Russell is from the water. At weekends and holidays the waters about the islands abound with every type of boat imaginable from superyacht to venturesome kayakers.
==Getting around==
The islanders mostly use their own vehicles to get around the island island roads. While some of the arterial roads are tarred most are without kerb and guttering and many are no better than a grassy way. Some are only dotted lines on the map. With only one petrol station prices are always at a premium compared to the mainland. While cyclists can take their bikes on the fast ferries for free they will find the hilly nature of the terrain and the limited number of tarred surfaces a trial. At night, the lack of adequate street lighting make bike travel dangerous.
On the other hand, the advent of a full-time police presence on the island means that few drunks will be met on the road--both clubs have good bus services and the local taxi is quite efficient.


==See also==
: You're paying to be listed in the indices of the various DNS [[root nameserver]]s. Some of these are operated by private entities, others by government bodies. None give anything away for free. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 15:15, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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* [[Redland City Council, Queensland|Redland City Council]]
* [[South East Queensland]]


==References==
:: and (hopefully not to belabour the point) you can indeed create a website (say on a web hosting service like Dreamhost) without binding it to any domain. There it'll sit in splendid isolation, untroubled by search engines or other visitors. -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 15:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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#{{Note|russell_island_fraud}}''The Russell Island Land Fraud'' in Grabosky, Peter (ed.) Sutton, Adam (ed.): Stains on a white collar, The Federation Press, 1989, Annandale, NSW, ISBN 1-86287-009-8.
#{{Note|russell_island_history}}Dorrington, Wendy: The Pioneers of Russell Island, self-published, 2003, Russell Island, QLD, ISBN 1 876780 39 8.
#{{Note|russell_island_business}}[http://www.russellisland.biz Business Directory for Russell Island]
#{{Note|russell_island_pool}}[http://bayjournal.com.au/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1699&Itemid=100 BayJournal story on opening of pool]
#{{Note|russell_island_police}}[http://bayjournal.com.au/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1731&Itemid=1 BayJournal story on opening of police station]


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:::Also, most domain names that people come up with are ''not'' unique which is why they have to try again. Who's to settle the argument over whether you or the guy who lives down the street came up with "berzerksheep.com" first? That's part of what registration does. --- [[User:OtherDave|OtherDave]] ([[User talk:OtherDave|talk]]) 16:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


==External links==
::It isn't the [[root nameserver]]s but the nameserver(s) for the [[top-level domain]], in this case [[.com]]. I suppose one can't expect them to give away the service for free, but the actual cost of each new domain to VeriSign is minuscule, probably less than $0.01 per year. -- [[User:BenRG|BenRG]] ([[User talk:BenRG|talk]]) 16:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
*[http://www.russellisland.biz Business Directory for Russell Island]
*[http://www.redland.qld.gov.au/corp/ Redland City Council Homepage]
*[http://www.redlandstourism.com/ Redlands Tourism]
*[http://www.russellisland.com.au Russell Island on the bay]
*[http://www.nup.info/redland/russellisland.htm Russell Island]
*[http://bayjournal.com.au News about Russell Island and the Bay in general]
*[http://www.trading-post.net.au Russell Island Trading Post]


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: If domain names were free I would write a program to acquire every last one of them. My program would fail because someone who types faster than me would have beaten me to it. [[User:APL|APL]] ([[User talk:APL|talk]]) 18:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


{{Redland Shire}}
::That used to be the case. Originally, someone thought humans were nice trustworthy creatures that would only register domain names they planned to make good use of. Once domain hoarding started, the cost of registering domain names went up and up and up until it wasn't worthwhile to register every domain name that exists. -- [[User:Kainaw|<font color='#ff0000'>k</font><font color='#cc0033'>a</font><font color='#990066'>i</font><font color='#660099'>n</font><font color='#3300cc'>a</font><font color='#0000ff'>w</font>]][[User talk:Kainaw|&trade;]] 19:11, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


[[Category:Islands of Queensland]]
:::Really it was a pretty stupid way to set it up from the beginning. Five minutes of consulting would have cleared up the idea that cheap domain names would lead to anything but wild irresponsibility. --[[Special:Contributions/98.217.8.46|98.217.8.46]] ([[User talk:98.217.8.46|talk]]) 22:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
[[Category:Suburbs of Redland City, Queensland]]

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Location of Russell Island
Russell Island in Moreton Bay

Russell Island in Redland City is the biggest of the Southern Moreton Bay Islands, sandwiched between the mainland and North Stradbroke Island in the state of Queensland, Australia. The island is eight kilometres long (north-to-south) and nearly three kilometres wide.

History

Many people remember Russell Island for the infamous land scams of the early 1970s, when many of the islands farms were divided into over 20,000 blocks.[1] At the time, the area, with a population of less than 500, did not have a local authority enforcing planning regulations. Heavily advertised and sold off by unscrupulous vendors, these blocks were often not where the unwary customers thought they were buying. It all rode on the vague promise of a bridge from the National Party government at the time.

Media reports exposing the scam pointed to blocks that were underwater at high tide and the lack of public land. Thousands were duped and still smart today when rates notices arrive. Privately owned properties have reduced to about 15,000 as many owners have forfeited their land back to the council. It is bitter and unwanted heritage that the islanders and the Redland Council, who were appointed to take over the island, have tried to untangle ever since.

The history of the island, however, goes back much further than the scams. The island was first settled by Europeans in 1866, when John Campbell was granted a lease on the northern end of the island closely followed by John Willes and his family. Farmers and oystermen were the first full-time inhabitants, but with the arrival of the Jackson family in 1906, a small village was created on the western side of the island called Jacksonville, that had a sawmill, pineapple canning factory, jetty and even a picture theatre.[2]

Island life

House arriving on Russell Island

According to the 2006 Census Russell has just under 2000 permanent residents. However, this changes dramatically on weekends and holidays when many of the 30% of dwellings on the island which are classified as unoccupied are visited by their owners. In the last five years new dwellings grown by one a day--and more. The blocks, while still the second cheapest in Australia, no longer "go for a song". Spots for small boat moorings around the island are running out. Fast ferries and scheduled barges straddle the distance to Redland Bay quickly for most of the day.

Locals describe living on the island as quiet and laid back, with the advantage of being close to the facilities of a major city just across water and being fringed by the Moreton Bay Marine Park. Certainly, the rate of reported crime is well below that of equivalent suburbs on the mainland. Contrary to current beliefs, the possibility of a bridge being built to connect Russell Island to Redland Bay is slim.

Facilities

Russell Island has a police station, IGA supermarket, butcher, post office, garage, service station, grocery/take away foodstore, bottle shop, pet shop, part-time doctor, chemist, hairdresser, bakery, landscape/hire center, storage sheds, video hire, lawyer, library, RSL, bowls club, pool and restaurant. newer business to come soon inc news agent and sea food shop to open in the next 2 mths. Adding to the mix are two mobile businesses: a fishmonger and ice cream vendor.

In the middle of 2007 the Canaipa Shops which housed the takeaway, hardware store, hairdresser and bakery was torn down to make way for a large new supermarket and six smaller retail stores--including the most of the former tenants[3] due to open on 28 July 2008.

With so many blocks still available, three real estate offices trade well. Two licensed clubs, an RSL, bowls club provide entertainment and bistro facilities. A generously sized Council-built hall is available. Some church denominations meet there but others use the historic St Peters Church Hall just up High Street. Electricians, builders and plumbers are resident on the Island, making the island somewhat self-supportive. Services include power, phone, broadband, water and garbage collection but sewerage and tarring of the vast majority of streets is still some time away. Garbage is trucked to the mainland for disposal. Both the Rural Fire Brigade and the Ambulance service receive strong volunteer support. On 12 April 2008, a public 50 metre swimming pool jointly funded by the Redland City Council, the Queensland State Government, a rates levy and nearly 20 years of donations from residents was completed. Management has been contracted to the YMCA. The first bathers hit the water during that weekend but, lacking any heating, it was closed for the winter.[4] A small primary school for around 180 students has an active Parents and Citizens club. Another big event for the island on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 when the $1.2m Police Station was opened by the Queensland Police Minister, [1], bringing Senior Constable Michael Verry to the island as its first Community Policeman. However,Queensland Police make frequent visits to the island with a high-speed barge [2] carrying two police vehicles.

Features

Russell Island has few beaches; the foreshore is mostly mud and mangrove, there is little public land along the foreshore which is a pity because the views along the Canaipa Passage looking over to Stradbroke Island are some of the best in South East Queensland. Both the Lions Park at the southern end of the island and the small park and tidal swimming enclosure close to the barge ramp and jetty at the northern end, have barbecue and toilet facilities close by. The outstanding feature of the island is its vast wetlands areas, but there are no established walking tracks or nature trails to view them. These wetlands also mean that the island has a big warm season population of mosquitoes and midges. However, they are a part of a rich food chain that attracts thousands of migratory birds and crowds the waters with fish and crabs. It is no surprise then than the most popular way of seeing Russell is from the water. At weekends and holidays the waters about the islands abound with every type of boat imaginable from superyacht to venturesome kayakers.

Getting around

The islanders mostly use their own vehicles to get around the island island roads. While some of the arterial roads are tarred most are without kerb and guttering and many are no better than a grassy way. Some are only dotted lines on the map. With only one petrol station prices are always at a premium compared to the mainland. While cyclists can take their bikes on the fast ferries for free they will find the hilly nature of the terrain and the limited number of tarred surfaces a trial. At night, the lack of adequate street lighting make bike travel dangerous. On the other hand, the advent of a full-time police presence on the island means that few drunks will be met on the road--both clubs have good bus services and the local taxi is quite efficient.

See also

References

  1. ^ Judy Spence
  2. ^ Stewart Kerlin
  1. ^ The Russell Island Land Fraud in Grabosky, Peter (ed.) Sutton, Adam (ed.): Stains on a white collar, The Federation Press, 1989, Annandale, NSW, ISBN 1-86287-009-8.
  2. ^ Dorrington, Wendy: The Pioneers of Russell Island, self-published, 2003, Russell Island, QLD, ISBN 1 876780 39 8.
  3. ^ Business Directory for Russell Island
  4. ^ BayJournal story on opening of pool
  5. ^ BayJournal story on opening of police station

External links

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