User talk:17Drew/Archive 4

Invitation

EndUN Userbox

Hi, you recently participated in the Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:DieWeisseRose/Userboxes/EndUN discussion. I have reluctantly submitted the closing statement by User:Tony Sidaway for deletion review. Please consider taking a look at Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_July_1#User:DieWeisseRose.2FUserboxes.2FEndUN. Thanks. --DieWeisseRose 02:58, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Stewart Surfboards

I didn't get the message about it being up for deletion until now. I'd like to "assert" its notability, and recreate it. How exactly do I do that? Pinky 06:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I read through it, and I think Stewart Surfboards is notable enough. Do I need to give you, or an admin links to websites that I think establish it as notable? If you search for it on Google, you can also find several sites mentioning Stewart Surfboards. Thanks, Pinky 03:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Love.Angel.Music.Baby

I might not be able to look after Love.Angel.Music.Baby's FAC process much as my exams are near. I know you are the father of the article. So can you please cater to the oppositions. I know you yourself have some. But can you deal with the problems which people have with the part you have written. Thank you so much. I will try to look after the article too. Thanks a ton. I am not forcing you. It's completely your choice. User:Luxurious.gaurav

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah! It failed FAC. I am sooooo disheartened. User:Luxurious.gaurav

Just a question. Do you find selection of Featured articles through voting as the only criteria to be just? I mean, of course people should be asked, but i have seen in FA discussions of many articles in which they Object for no reason. And when asked about the reason, they say "My wish". Something similar happened with Taj Mahal if i can recall. Not sure. I will search for examples. Luckily this didnt happen with L.A.M.B. User:Luxurious.gaurav

I see. I had one more doubt. I am not able to interpret what is meant by Love.Angel.Music.Baby being a wide-eyed article. Can you elaborate on this point. And is Wonderful Life (Gwen Stefani song) the next single? User:Luxurious.gaurav

Ah, so something like a Gwen Stefani fan who has got excited by the facts about L.A.M.B and put it in the article in excitement in an informal manner. But i try my best to make out where the article lags behind. The only thing i could find was wide eyed. But can you please tell me a brilliant album article which is FA so that i can come to know where L.A.M.B has to cope up. And also, i am shocked by the number of discussions people are having on talk sites about wonderful life being the fourth single. It's a huge rumour. User:Luxurious.gaurav

I am talking about blog sites. I even scrutinised some discussions, but all are just saying. No one is scourcing. I think it's because Rolling Stone had said that it wants Gwen to release it as a single. User:Luxurious.gaurav

I can't keep it to myself anymore. But Californication is no better than Love.Angel.Music.Baby, yet it is FA. It makes me feel horibbly sad. Some things get what they don't deserve. Californication is like salt on my wounds. Well, my bad luck.User: Luxurious.gaurav

I have put up as much information on the album's impact on popular music as i could. So now can you please give some finishing touches to the section. Thanks! User:Luxurious.gaurav

Prince

You removed "award winning" citing WP:NPOV, but as Prince has won awards this means he is award winning. There is nothing in NPOV or WTA that suggests award winning is a point of view, it is more a statement of fact. Darrenhusted 15:28, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Listing awards is important, look at Jack Nicholson and Meryl Streep, their intros do nothing but list awards. You quoted NPOV in removing it, there is nothing under NPOV I could see which backs that up. He has won at least a Grammy and Oscar, and for me that would cover award winning. Darrenhusted 23:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfB

Thank you so much for your participation in my recent RfB. Though it closed with 72% support (below the required 90%), I'm still quite pleased at the outpouring of support shown by a fair percentage of the community.

I'm currently tabulating and calculating all opposing and neutral arguments to help me better address the community's concerns about my abilities as a bureaucrat. If you'd like, you can follow my progress (and/or provide additional suggestions) at User:EVula/admin/RfB notes. Thanks again! EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:AllGoodThingsVideo.png)

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Question about Peter Canavan

Hey, the following is from Lara Love's talkpage, but since she is on a break I thought I'd ask you because you reviewed fair use images for her earlier I had seen.

I have a DVD of the 2005 All-Ireland final. If I vidcapped a good shot of Peter Canavan from it (such as when he meets the President of Ireland, which is a tradition for the All-Ireland finals), would it be sufficient for the infobox?? And would it be within protocol to just vidcap a shot of every player that played on the day and use it for their profile infoboxes (such as Brian Dooher who was the captain, and therefore lifted the trophy? --Macca7174 19:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

PS. I'll second the barnstar for Good Article reviews, having experienced how thorough you are with them.--Macca7174 19:38, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure. I'll have to check some policies. I have to go to work now, I'll look tonight. LaraLove^T/_C 19:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, I haven't had a reply, so I went ahead and uploaded this; Image:Canavan goal cropped.png. The quality is worse than I had expected, but I uploaded it more as a test subject. Is there any info missing that you need to assess its eligibility? Preferably I would want it to be eligible for use on Peter Canavan's infobox (or a better vidcap).--Macca7174_talk 17:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the image can't be used. WP:NONFREE states that pictures of living people can't be used to illustrate what the person looks like (with the rare exception of recluses like Osama bin Laden or J. D. Salinger). The image will need to be tagged with {{rfu}} or {{orfud}} and be deleted after a week, unless you'd like to tag it with {{db-author}} for speedy deletion. I found a picture of Canavan with Sam Maguire on Flickr. The image is copyrighted, but if you'd like, I can send a FlickrMail to the uploader to see if he'd be willing to release it under a free license. ShadowHalo 18:18, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

How about if I got a shot of him meeting the President of Ireland as part of the pre-match traditions?? Would that be considered historically significant?

The picture on Flickr includes a non-notable individual—would it be suitable?? The Sam Maguire you refer to is the cup in the picture, not the person, in case there was any confusion there. If it is suitable, then yeh, it would be cool if you could ask him. Cheers.

Finally, on a similar note, would the second picture in this BBC webgallery be sufficient for Cormac McAnallen, since he died in 2004??--Macca7174_talk 19:36, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

:Haha, I should have looked at the birth and death years in the Sam Maguire article. Easily fixed though. Any free license allows derivative works, meaning that the image could be cropped (and the perspective could be adjusted; note how all the vertical lines in the picture get closer at the top, making Canavan look tilted). I'll see if the Flickr user will release it freely. Regarding the picture for Cormac McAnallen, that's a good question. I've seen disagreement on the issue before. It's not replaceable in the sense that you can take a new picture, but I've seen some people argue that it's possible for someone who has taken a picture of the individual to release one freely. I'd recommend asking at Wikipedia talk:Non-free content or Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. ShadowHalo 20:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I changed the fair use rationale, based on Image:Godfather15.jpg. Does it make a difference, and if not, would it be viable for the Cormac McAnallen picture I mentioned. Also, could I point out Image:Denis Law signs for Manchester United.JPG, and ask how it differs from the Canavan picture?? Cheers for your help.--Macca7174_talk 20:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: He Ya!

Oh heck, I had forgotten , thanks for the reminder. As I have no other problems with the page I'll support. Gran² 07:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:ATC.jpg

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Kafee Ahmed

Hi! http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kafeel_Ahmed&diff=143175967&oldid=143072051 - I am a newb, can you explain to me why this image has been removed? It is all over the web and alll over media. Did I make a mistake when I uploaded it? I *think* it should be fair use. DrippingGoofball 13:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use?

Hi Drew, would Image:Mugshot 50-Cent-a.jpg qualify under fair use for the 50 Cent article? I've tagged it for a speedy at Commons because it's not licensed under the U.S. federal government. I looked at Image:Hilton mug shot.jpeg and someone made an argument that it's already clear from the prose that she went to jail and that an image doesn't add significantly to it. What's your take on this? Spellcast 21:50, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Viven31 response

Hi Drew, no offence but YOUR LIFE IS LAME, u edit aritcles! i know i edit one or two such as, Nelly Furtado, Gwen Stefani and Fergie for fun! But you edit them cause ur life is boring, and u have nothing better to do with ur life. U take this seriously GOD! get a life. Viven31 14:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Wonderful Life single release

Hi Drew, just about the Wonderful Life) single, if you read the source or references propley you will find that it will be the next single from the The Sweet Escape.

                    Thank You.

Viven31 15:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Viven31 blocked indefinitely

Just so you know, I blocked Viven31 (talk · contribs) indefinitely for misinformation vandalism and as another sock of Gwenboy (talk · contribs). Extraordinary Machine 14:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah…I completely forgot about Gwenboy. ShadowHalo 22:04, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

POTD notification

POTD

Hi Drew,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:BiodegradablePlasticUtensils2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on July 20, 2007. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2007-07-20. howcheng {chat} 00:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

re: Pop music WikiProject

Thanks for the heads up, I've added my name. Just to be nosy, wazzup with the name-change? - eo 12:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah Yeah.wazzup with the name change. Will miss old ShadowHalo.User:Luxurious.gaurav

Oooooooooh...well, i will be a confused person for a long time because i have a habit of searching for ShadowHalo everywhere. I am thinking of geting Love.Angel.Music.Baby to A Class now. I am very impatient when it comes to L.A.M.B. User:Luxurious.gaurav

Confusion

Album articles can't be made A Clas??? I could see just 2 album articles in the whole wikipedia which are A Class. User:Luxurious.gaurav

The WikiProject

Hello 17Drew, thanks for informing me about the WikiProject. The trouble is, I know very, very little about WikiProjects, and my work in the pop music articles isn't content addition (in fact, I've barely added any content here on Wikipedia; a lot of my work has been improving existing content and correcting formatting, as well as removing vandalism, unsourced material, nonsense, and errors). However, if you want someone in the WikiProject who does that, then I'll put my username down. I'm not "saying no", I'm telling you about what I do, and if what I do is any use to your WikiProject. Acalamari 23:15, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I've put my username down; the least I can do is help get the WikiProject started by giving it some support. Acalamari 23:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Gwen Stefani?

4 in the morning is at 57 in the US http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46325 Bobo6balde66 00:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

but there are the official charts Bobo6balde66 00:03, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Pop music WikiProject

Thanks for notifying me; I've commented there. I was wondering if I'd encountered you before until I read your user page — I hope the "off-wiki reasons" are nothing serious. Extraordinary Machine 14:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Question

Just wanted to ask whether the idea of a certification table for Love.Angel.Music.Baby is a good. It seems i will easily get all the certification of all major countries. User:Luxurious.gaurav

Help

Are we allowed to put whatever we want on pages? like I want shut up and drive and umrella to be #1 everywhere and i put that in the articles. is that ok??? please reply..thanks

Question! Please guide

How to nominate an article for A-Clss. Can you pleeeeeease tell the procedure. Please reply soon. Thanks a ton! User:Luxurious.gaurav

And what if i want to nominate a song article. User:Luxurious.gaurav

Nonfree image removal

Hi Drew, just curious as to why you removed the crowded house images that were in the templates? The policy says it, sure, but it's a policy that doesn't need to be adhered as the law is the primary policy. It's simply a guideline (though toted as a policy), however centrally in wikipedia, the policies are actually guidelines to give direction, but really, one can do anything with fair use images if there's a reasonable explanation for their use according to fair use/nonfree media laws. And of course, WP:IAR rules out the policies as it's the first rule. --linca^linca 08:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)