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Notice As a courtesy, you may wish to note this item on the Administrator's Noticeboard.  DDStretch  (talk) 15:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

I doubt you're doing this as courtesy it is Wikipedia convention telling you to put this notice on my talk page. Anyhow, enjoy yourself on [1] since I haven't been using the vandalism tag of late. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 15:47, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

NHS AfC

Hi, Are you still an IT Tech in the NHS, what grade did you get in AfC? I might need to talk to you privately, is this possible? Thanks. Dalavich 20:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm no longer an IT Tech for DaSH, but if you want info on A4C we can have a private chat no problem. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 07:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry being a bit dense here, how do I start a private chat with you? Thanks. Dalavich 06:53, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

There is no private chat facility here, we'd have toswap email addresses for that, and the exchange od address wouldn't be secret. As a tip to find my email address, look for this username on the Wikipedia Commons, most photos I've uploaded have my website as a source on which is my name and aemail. Cheers, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 07:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Civility

Your edit summary here is unacceptable. Remember WP:CIVIL. Andy Mabbett 08:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

It's perfectly acceptable, your reply to Sheepcot was not. You stalking me onto my talk page making this kind of comment is uncivil. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 08:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

What you told Andy Mabbett here is actually correct diff so please don't think I'm trying to criticize that aspect of the dispute.

However Andy Mabbett is not stalking you here, he's disagreeing with your use of the word violent in the edit summary to describe his previous comment. Editors are bound to want an explanation directly every so often when you disagree with them. diff If Andy Mabbett starts showing up on different articles you edit, then I could see it being called stalking. As it is this looks like a misunderstanding caused by sensitive feelings and poor word choice. Here is alink to it's place on the AN/I page, in case you want to comment about this there [2]. Anynobody 09:24, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up [User:Anynobody|Anynobody]]. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 09:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I accept that I stepped over the line in my comments to Andy Mabbett, but having looked over the talk pages of the pair of you it is quite clear that there is a lot more going on here. I would have to say that this user is being extremely forcefull in trying to get his point of view through, and it being extremely un-collaborative. Almost every post that disagrees with his view is reverted or a contrary response posted. For what its worth, it would be better for you to work together with others on this. For my part, I have already had enough of the pettiness of this place. The adding of coordinates has certain "zealousness" about it, and I really do not think that the railway strip maps need it. Sheepcot 07:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Tinsley Viaduct

Hi there Captain scarlet. As you have commented on the above article's disscussion page, I'd like to invite you to a poll on the inclusion or not of the coordinates box, here. L.J.Skinner^{wot|I did} 20:28, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me about this. We'll need more than us two to have Microformats removed as Pigsonthewing is rallying people on his Microformats project. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 22:26, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Proposed community ban

I have proposed a community ban on you here Wikipedia:Community_sanction_noticeboard#Proposed_ban_of_Captain_scarlet_.28talk_.C2.B7_contribs_.C2.B7_logs_.C2.B7_block_user_.C2.B7_block_log.29 where you may join the discussion. Thank you. Nardman1 22:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Pigsonthewing (talk · contribs)

The above user has reported me here. I hope you don't mind me using you name in my defence. L.J.Skinner^{wot|I did} 14:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Major stations template

In this edit, I think I understand what you mean, but did you mean to say "The town is NOT being considered, the station is"? --RFBailey 15:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes you're right, I typed a bit hastely. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 15:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Greetings

Hello Cap'n - it's been a while. My work forced me away from wiki for a while - as did my disappointment in the months of tenacious schoolyard ado about nothing - but I'm back and ready to pump the Paris article up to FA status. I'd be thrilled if you'd help - there's not so much to do, but citations and some prose-work are needed.

Is it me or has something changed here? Somehow Wiki doesn't seem so.... busy.

Anyhow, all the best, take care,

THEPROMENADER 23:43, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi THEPROMENADER, nice to see you again. I have also taken a step back from wikipedia thanks to the increase number of Hardouins around, you know what I mean. I'd be glad to help you with the Paris article. We've worked so hard on that article that without adding content and wikifying the article it can get to FA status in no time! Don't hesitate to contact me, cheers. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 07:39, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Good lord, you answered some time ago. Shall we open a thread on the Paris talk page? Much can be cut and reworded in that article, no doubt... what do you think should go, for starters? Some is too wordy... until then, cheers! THEPROMENADER 21:40, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

ANI

Hey Captain scarlet. Pigsonthewing has thrown his toys out of the pram again at AN/I. Since I doubt anyone will bother telling you, thought I would. Looks like most people are just telling him to stop being so mardy and get on with it. Anyway, good to see you back from a little Sheff-break! L.J.Skinner^{wot|I did} 02:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Pigsonthewing's the best. An expected course of action coming from him, always on ANI and RfC when he can't make his case. Take care, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 07:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Map

Welcome back, Mysterons. I wondered if in the recent edit to the Town Hall, or was it the City Hall, you intended to remove the map as well as the 'coord shambles'? (I have no views re the map and agree with you re the coords.) -- roundhouse 19:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes in intended on removing the map as well as the shamble coordinates. I understand Pigsonthewing's mess includes a map but I believe there is a point where line should be drawn, coordinates, map, what next? The address? I think the coordinates serve the reader better than a map, especially when the map is interactive, there is no need for a low quality and badly edited map as well. Don't you agree? Cheers, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 08:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I haven't formed an opinion on the map or maps in general, so my vote is floating on that one. I think the address/postcode/phone/fax might well be next and I anticipate the Mysterons will say 'Wikipedia is not a telephone directory' and root them out. -- roundhouse 11:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Here is an example - The Petersfield School (Hampshire, England) - it uses one of the infoboxes modified by microformattists to call on {{coord}} and also to detect microformats (although it doesn't yet have geo-coords). Odd that postcode is omitted - would the Mysterons object to post-code? -- roundhouse 12:54, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed address/postcode/phone/fax have nothing to do in Wikipedia... It's explicitly said so in the CoC, take a look, there's a line just for it. What next, directions? No that's already on Wikitravel. The post code or our cousins' Zip has nothing to do here. I see our microformattists have made a big mess of that template... Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 19:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

I did a search for CoC and found a variety of things, the most amusing being Circle of confusion - I expect pigs would fly in one of these. However you perhaps meant something else. There are only 4 microformattists, one of whom said of the 6 Tinsley viaduct coords - Oppose - 'Wikipedia is 'not a collection of cartography data'. Another of the opponents said it looked like original research - now is adding any coordinate not original research? How does one cite a coordinate? -- roundhouse 13:36, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

By CoC i meant the universal term Code of Conduct, sorry, that was a bit nerdy of me. The only source for a coordinate unless cited in a book specifically is itself. Reasonable numbers of coordinates on an article are ok I believe, it is information that cannot be refuted; Buckingham Palace is where it is, citing its postcode, phone number or address is not encyclopedic however. There is a different between situating an article and giving directions to it, one is relevant, the other mere travel guide data (timetable are another controversial topic) Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 16:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Captain

For the benefit of someone who knows little about them, and in the interests of trying to calm things down before someone gets blocked, could you explain to me in words of one syllable what microformats are, and why they shouldn't be used? Here or on my talk page. Thanks. Neil ╦ 20:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

sorry Neil, but I feel there's little need to make efforts to talk to Pigsonthewing, I feel I'm speaking to a brick wall and facing somekind of a vendetta to ban me rather than someone willing to constructively prove their project is worthwhile. I've spent 2 months encounting Pigsonthewing and I have had nothing but disdain. You've correctly approched both of us but I am not satisfied at the response by my counterpart. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 10:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Sisteron

Hi, I have noticed that you're occasionally removing commercial links from wikipedia. I try to keep a few articles clean too. Would you have a look at my discussion page? There is a debate on a link I removed from the Sisteron article. I might be wrong, so I'd like to have another opinion. Thanks. Vincent Lextrait 05:46, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your intervention on Sisteron. Now I have another one, more subtle, Vinon-sur-Verdon. The website provenceweb has invaded wikipedia, with references added on many different villages pages. This is the case of Vinon-sur-Verdon. The content is not bad, the only thing is that it is a commercial ad site (see [3]) listing commercial content which has been bought from them. I am occasionally removing links to provenceweb when I fall upon them. A user seems to disagree with me, on Vinon-sur-Verdon. If I am not too much of a pain, would you have a look? Thanks. Vincent Lextrait 12:54, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

don't apologise, I see the Provence websites have been tainted indeed. Justifying the removal of ProvenceWeb isn't hard. Its main page annouces its purpose of diffusing tourism information, that's against WP:EL and the MoS so there you go. I don't know what's with the random gliding website links. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 13:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Same thing, in my opinion on Languedoc wine, where a link to the site [4] is readded (I found it invading wikipedia on a few articles). Your opinion welcome, if you have some time. Vincent Lextrait 19:02, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Computours would seem unappropriate as it is just some person's website, the wine map is however aceptable I think. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 16:41, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Vincent Lextrait 16:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of tallest buildings and structures in Basse-Normandie

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Just a Heads-up

...to tell you: Hardouin's back, and up to his usual "where I live for foreigners" shenannigans. This time it's on the Île-de-France page - his first edit since eight months was reverting to a phrase of his that was removed over a year ago.

Cheers,

THEPROMENADER 18:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

There's not much you can do, but just to let you know that "Paris fun" has begun again - this time on the Economy of Paris article. Hope you are well - cheers. THEPROMENADER 11:20, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Nothing will stop the guy... It's enraging, he'll fault, he'll get yet another 3RR then resume lowering the tone. He's done it since his arrival he'll continue doing it. don't play the game, use Wikipedia functioning against him rather than anger and exasperation. You and I know he doesn't play fair, use that rather than "dude stop". Good luck. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 11:25, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. Use Wikipedia? Doing my best already: do you remember the "sockpuppet saga" (with Green Giant)? It's only one instance up for arbitration here. I gave all I could, so I'll let the admins decide from here. Cheers. THEPROMENADER 11:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, I remember the sockpuppet issue... Oh it was fun, I had my own where my fiancée was accused of being a sockpuppet, I let it go... what I'm leading onto is even using Wikipedia isn't enough, irrefutable testimony (the word proof isn't accurate in this situation). You were a while ago going to gather the dossier of all dossiers regarding He Who Must Not Be Named. I suggest you do that: two years worth of intell, week by week recollection of his actions and bang against the wall. It's not personal it's just his impossibility to work with others or to agree with others who do not unwieldly follow him. another option is to use all the information you have legally ammassed and make a website or your own... That'll do his head in and teach you much in your fields of interest; history, geography. I know that since I am the provider of most if not all information present in articles of my interest the cunning loophole of GNU is lame does not apply and you wouldn't even have to quote Wikipedia, I've thought of this already... Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 12:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. He's back for another round of wishful disinformation, again with another single-user account (with a few recent edits this time) to revert to his "own" version. Economy of Paris as usual, full blanket revert to the version of (*cough*) "another" contributor. Right. This time I'm going to call a card a card. THEPROMENADER 14:25, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks for the warning but your message does not comprise any violation information. Please elaborate on this copyright violation since I typed the article and I have no recollection of stealing or using any copyrighted information. Rgeards, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 11:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I had a look at the article (now deleted) and http://extrapah.havre-port.net/images/menu_web4/historique/histogb.pdf and didn't see anything suspicious - the material is similar but the wording is different. I would expect they are independent translations from a doc in French - is there any objection to this? -- roundhouse0 11:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

You might have ,noticed I don't believe in PDF so I've off course never seen this document hehe... I'm sorry to see that the case made against Port of Le Havre lacked actual proof of copyright breach, it seemed all hush hush and delt with quickly. Thanks for the heads up but I don't get your last sentence, I'm happy you agree with me but I don't get what I shouldn't object to ;) Cheers, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 12:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I meant 'is there any objection in Eng Wikipedia to an article in French being translated into English by an editor?'. Copyvio is presumably lifting articles (or chunks or articles) verbatim. I do indeed recall that you dislike pdf - there was an example re Sheffield a few months back. (There was also a case of the SUFC article being accused of copyvio and denied GA status, when it was the Wikipedia article which had been copied.) -- roundhouse0 12:24, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I see. Well the French article is a translation of my work in English. None of the media used in the article is a copyvio, the map is made by moi et the photos were already present so there is no reason indeed not to start again; freight passage data is open public so that may be used, dates aren't a secret etc... Dunno where whatshisface got the coyvio from, the claim was empty, no justification... Dunno why I should outright ask for the article's reopening, probably not, i do dislike Wikipedia after all... I'm more bothered by the loss of the data than anything else, I know the subject, readers who don't lost access. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 12:42, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you say that you "don't beleive in PDF" and that you "never seen this document" but you maybe recognize the following webpage : [5] ? Anyway, it was only the "history" section of the "Port of Le Havre" article that should be deleted, not the full article. DeltaWeb 13:43, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Off course I recognise this page, it was present in the page's external links. I don't believe I plagarised that nor and it is not that page that was quoted in the Copyvio claim. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 14:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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List of Tram Systems

Please reply to my message so I know how to proceed. Bluegoblin7 18:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Should I look for your message so I can reply? Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 21:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes it's on the page we were discussing (You, Me and EdJogg) Bluegoblin7 09:35, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes thanks, i replied to it yestersay. It wouldn't hurt to tone down the aggressivity on that page and on nay other... Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 10:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

A last note

Although I strongly disagree with you, I will not take the matter further since it seems to be 2to1 and you are adament that we keep the status quo. I do not want to start an edit war. ChrisDHDR 10:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Which Réseau?

For ordering purposes,

• Do you consider the Languedoc-Roussillon région in the réseau Sud-Est or Sud-Ouest?
• and similerly do you consider the Pays de la Loire in the réseau Ouest or Sud-Ouest?

Any feedback would be appreciated. ChrisDHDR 12:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Certain regions are on two réseaux, being in a TER region and an SNCF région is not mutually exclusive; Rouen is in both Région Ouest and Nord since lines to and from Paris are in Ouést and the line to Amiens in Nord. those regions having lines coming from Parisian terminals such as Austerlitz and Montparnasse would therefore be in two SNCF Régions; it's all been thought through with care ! Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 11:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

"Paris Metropolitan area" yet again

Captain, ô Captain,

As a (former) resident of the Paris region, could I ask for your input into this matter? User:Hardouin has returned after a month-long absence (only) to revert "his" Economy of Paris article to his own terminology - when the correct one was in place since months with no complaint before the last revert war - it's again about his wishful translation of aire urbaine into "metropolitan area" when the official translation of the same is "urban area". He's reverted six times in the past two days, in spite of the facts presented to him and references straight from the very organisation that created the "aire urbaine" - the INSEE. This is getting very surreal - he's even asking admins to doubt this source (is there a higher one possible? Not.) to adopt his "reasoning" - we've seen this before in dealings with fellow Wikipedians and admins not familiar with the subjects we deal in.

As a former resident of the area, and one who is knowledgable about all things Paris, could you be so kind as to throw a dash of wisdom and common sense here please? Thanks, I'd be ever so obliged.

Cheers,

THEPROMENADER 20:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind word in the great "metropolitan area" debate - but this story seems far from over - against all agreement, fact, reason and obvious sources, the reverts continue. Again as one knowledgable about the fact of how things are in gay Paree, could you look in on the "revert-targeted" article from time to time to make sure the level of "truthiness" doesn't get too high? Thanks again. THEPROMENADER 21:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

No probs ThePromenader, it didn't seem I was the only one agreeing with your procedure, the cabal guy was pretty impressed. I can look at the article but you know how he is like: brick wall/not bovvered/not lissening. He wants things related his way with his expresions in use, fortunately, with Cabal behind you/us, we can justify the truth with concensus backing us up. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 06:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Again highly suspect edits to the article in question by an "outsider" - to exactly the same two phrases obsessed over by User:Hardouin - and talk page comments using exactly the same "reasoning" as the same. The article was clear and true to its sources as it could be as it was, and I find it extremely odd (for a wikipedian) to diminish the clarity and verifiability of an article just in order to get the "last edit". THEPROMENADER 11:00, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Socketpuppet alert? It wouldn't be the first time youknowwho has resorted to this. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 13:57, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Last night I reverted to the "Paris region" version - that's where all the sources say Paris' economy is, so Wiki should say the same. As for the rest, it's really too bad that France isn't more like the big You Ess of Ay, but if it has a language of its own, we must use it first. We can make compromises about what facts to place (and where), but not with fact itself. Thanks for your knowledgable support through this. THEPROMENADER 08:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

(sigh) - Can I ask you for your knowledgable input - again? After the latest revert, Paris' economy is limited to the city (at least in the introduction), and Paris' urban area - officially meaning "aire urbaine" - is being indicated as and compared to another country's definition of an urban area. I guess some seem to think that "those stupid foreigners" aren't capable of understanding that different countries have names and definitions (and languages) of their own. THEPROMENADER 13:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Best way would be to avoid both Aire métrolopitaine (which by all means could be confused with France) and Aire urbaine and use Ile de France. The IdF website ought to have economical résumés that can be used as sources. If I show up on that article there's gonna be a big bang since I'm unlikely to make any prisonners. If I do, be bold will never have been so appropriate and if these are reverted, the individuals will go straight to Admin notice boards with the note does not collaborate and WP:OWN stuck next to their names. Howzat?

NB USA should be more like not American language ;) Les 'ricains use a form of old English that has since long evolved into what Anglais is now; best they cath up rather than the opposite ;). Regards, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 14:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, well if that's what it will take to get some sense into all this, then I'd much appreciate it - I can't go it alone against a sock/meatpuppet army that ignores all fact, reason and consensus. THEPROMENADER 14:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Can't the article be protected and the puppets blocked? My missus got hers blocked just for agreeing with me, I'm sure they'd get blocked for the same reasons. Anyway 22 minutes and it's the weekend... Patience Greg... Patience. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 15:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Happy weekend! I'll leave it for now, but I eventually will be putting the article back to the verifiable version - leaving it like that just diminishes its credibility, and I'll be sorry that I ever contributed to it. All the same, it's too bad that there's not more knowledgable people contributing to Paris articles - all the stress is in the one-on-one - not to mention the frustration of seding evident fact be buried by obtrusive and obscure inventive bullshit. It might be a good idea to get some school-children exercising their English on Paris articles - as per the idea of a schoolteacher friend of mine - at least that way we can hope the quality of those articles will improve a bit.

Blocking puppets? Will have to make a case for that - there's quite a few unblocked proxies out there, and even here I have a choice of at least nine neigbours I can steal WiFi bandwidth (and IP numbers) from. Still, the situation is apallingly clear - same reverts to the same phrases invented by the same person, all on the same day an edit war is going on. User pages all the same, and all are infrequent contributors - if at all. If presented clearly, there is a clear case for sure.

I hope everything's going well in your neck of the Wiki woods at least. Cheers. THEPROMENADER 16:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I'll just add this here as to not mess up your page any more than needed: Our friend has just began another whine crusade hoping for backing without attention to fact. Anyhow, I've edited the article to make it informative and less non-sensical, in accordance with our agreement. Have a look at the results if you like. Cheers! THEPROMENADER 13:04, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I've looked at your contribs todays due to the increased activity of the Hardouin and I have little or no issues with them. I also note you've taken time to ask people involved to make their opinions heard which means you're clearly following a diplomatic and sensible approach; can't fault you there and Admins should the time mean they're needed will see you have done that. I know your writing style and I know it's generally faultless, good zhizle me nizle. PS: I went to IdF région (with an accent haha) last week... Despite my interest in the articles, it's still pretty much a sh-hole :) Pontoise was nice, quality pizza I had there. Was only a one night trip there to see old school mates. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 13:12, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Infobox Trams Template

Hi Captain, I can't understand why youv'e requested this page for deletion. I can't use a sandbox, beacue you need a template page for it to show up on, which is linked to my second sandbox. Please remove the AfD. Bluegoblin7 17:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

The AfD won't be removed since the template is a nonsence page with no content. The article does not assert its own importance. If you don't understand criteria for deletion, have a look at TfD. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 08:02, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:Bus Azur - logo.png

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Waterways maps

The mapneeded tag on waterways pages has been agreed by the WikiProject as a call for either a map, or a route diagram, so I will remove the tag again Mayalld 11:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

There is still no map present on the article. While maps remain preferable to diagrams (they are not anchored to the right of articles, do not restrict edition and are geographically acurate) I have readded the tag so that a learned editor may compose a map for the article. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 11:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

The tag is an attribute of the UK Waterways WikiProject, and is taken to mean that a map or diagram is required. As you seem to take issue with the way the project uses the tag, perhaps you should take it to the project talk page, instead of simply re-adding a tag that doesn't actually mean what you want it to mean Mayalld 11:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I've left a friendly reply on the article in question. I do not wish to take part in this project considering some of the members present in it and the lack of need to take part in projects. I remai objective and offer my services on thie article alone. Regards, Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 11:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

I've never found the current membership to be other than cordial, but clearly you have some quarrel with one or more of the members. I do take your point about maps being needed, and would support you in calling for such maps. However, such maps really aren't in scope for the current WikiProject, and overloading the mapneeded tag just makes it harder to achieve any progress. In the spirit of finding a solution, I've amended the template to take an alternate "mapneeded=full" call, which should satisfy your wish to tag the article, and the wish of others to use the categories to plan their contributions. Mayalld 12:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Battling vandalism

Oh I see! Yes, I reverted vandalism on your page a few months back, so no wonder I forgot I'd done it! OK, no worries at all my friend! Happy editing. BTW, you're very welcome! Lradrama 16:36, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Sheffield Inner Ring Road

Hey Cap'n. Just wantedto draw your attention to this request I made, if and when you can find the time. L.J.Skinner^{wot|I did} 23:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Dude... I've told you before the plan's just like the links you keep on giving me. I've driven the rubbish and useless road (I'm a hater of the NRR) and the roundabouts are where they're meant to be and how they're meant to be. I just don't get what you want changing. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 22:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I'll humour you one last time. It's the wrong shape. From Penistone road, it heads southeast down Shalesmoor and Moorfields, then runs into Corporation Street around halfway along at a roundabout, before turning northeast along Corporation Street. It does not (as in your diagram) head due east, nor is the road ever called "Gibraltar Street". From here, it crosses the river, and one section passes across the Wicker, now downgraded (so the thick line on your diagram gives the wrong impression) and carries on along Cutlers gate to the parkway, which it meats as a roundabout (not whatever you've drawn). The other section, which does not even exist on your map, heads under the Wicker Arches and links up to Spital Hill and Saville Street. You seem to have included Blonk street/Lady's Bridge as part of the ring road. Shall I go on? Please, just have a look at the images I provided for you. L.J.Skinner^{wot|I did} 01:53, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, here are some more image of how this image should look. One is your image superimposed over the Sheffield City Council-drawn plans, the other is those plans, superimposed on your image, just to create both effects. these are at [6] and [7]. Also, this is what the junction with the Parkway looks like. Please can you go have a look at re-draw the image appropriately? It's better to have no image at all then an incorrect one, don't you agree? L.J.Skinner^{wot|I did} 15:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Fuck you

You're a cunt who hates iPhones. :)