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Adoption Request: Hi Casliber, I saw your name of the list users offering adoption. I've been a WP for about 2 months, editing anonymously. I created a user name because of all the benefits. So far I think I know the "basic" stuff like a bit of wiki markup, making articles, e.t.c. I'd like to learn some of the advanced stuff. Is it possible for you to adopt me? Regards. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 14:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Casliber! Thanks for accepting my adoption request. Your help and assistance will be of great value to me.

My main interest is article writing as well as article editing. I intend to contribute primarily to Computer science and engineering related articles as well as Hinduism-related articles (esp. Mahabharata). Apart from that I will indulge in rectification of grammatical errors, etc. of all articles (that I read). I stay in New York and I plain to be on WP from 10pm to 11pm EST (minus 4 hours from GMT).

I also have 2 questions to ask:

I know certain users and all administrators have a rollback feature. From the description of the feature on the WP:ROLLBACK page it seems that what it does can also be performed in a more "manual" way by ordinary users. To rollback several edits, you could click on the older version you want to revert to, then click "edit" and save the page like that. So how does thisrolback feature differ from what I described? Or is my understanding of rollback incorrect?

Suppose a page I created and put a lot of effort in writing it gets deleted. If I re-create the page, can I get back my work from the revision history; ie. if a deleted page is re-created, is the revision history of the previously deleted page restored?

Thanks! Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 15:39, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

In answer to your questions - yes, rollback is like the undo feature but more convenient. Regarding the second question, it is a straightforward fix. What an admin do is momentarily undelete the page and Move the page, complete with history, to userspace. I have done this before, so ask me if it happens. One way to preempt questions of notability is to begin an build on an article substantially on a draft page. I will make one for you if you don't already have one. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I am primarily interested in expanding each parvan in the Mahabharata#The_18_parvans into seperate dedicated articles. Just for a short intro, the Mahabharata is an important Hindu scripture. It consists of 18 books called "parvans". Translations of each parvan can be found here. So I'll be making 18 articles for each parvan, but as of now I have only one reference which is the one above. I'm also rather sure that they deserve seperate articles since Wikipedia does have articles for each book of the Bible, Quran, Rigveda e.t.c. What do you think?

Additionally I have some doubts regarding your previously reply. Firstly, is a draft page a page created temporarily in something like a user sandbox? Secondly, You said an admin undeletes a page and moves it to userspace. Did you mean mainspace?

Cheers! Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 01:08, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, a draft page is a sandbox like you have done. It is in userspace. You can make any number of articles in userspace as subarticles of your userpage. Thus I would move article 'X' to 'User:Arjun G. Menon/X' (i.e. userspace). Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thankyou. I will work on the draft page you have made for me. I have not yet read the translations of the parvans. I will read the parvans & summarize them for the article. Cheers. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 14:20, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Great. I can check your progress as you go. Once you have some commentary and references as well as a plot summary, I can let you know when and how to move it to article space (with the history preserved) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be nice to create stub articles for the parvans and then work on them in mainspace. Pros are the articles will all have discussion pages & people will start noticing them (after I linkify the parvan titles in the Mahabharata) and therefore contribute to them. Is this possible or will the stub pages get deleted? Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 21:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

You can try. I like it that way better, but I am wary of overzealous deleters patrolling. OK, let's do it that way and I will keep an eye on it. It encourages others to drop in and help. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Casliber. Sorry for the lack of communication. I was busy with college (started on 2nd), and never really got much time to read the parvans. Those parvans are really lengthy and it will be quite some time before I finish the first. I've decided to refocus my editing to CS articles for the time being. If I need any help, I'll ask you. Cheers! Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 02:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I recently uploaded this image for the Arc (PL). I believe the author has made it public domain, but could you verify please... Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 03:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't know of any link releasing the image to the public domain, its basically a pic that Paul Graham has uses in his site's Arc page. Paul has also got a page on his site dedicated to this image: which dates the chair to 1947. I recently got this notice regarding the image. My guesses are the image is public. Do we have to prove this? What do you think? Cheers. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 04:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I wanted to add a userbox for my university (SUNY Stony Brook / Stony Brook University), so I took a look at Wikipedia:Userboxes/Education/United_States#New_York, but couldn't find it listed there. How do I create one for it? Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 05:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I've figured out how and made a couple. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 06:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I have a another small (unrelated) question to ask you. Is it OK to upoad to whatever images I like on Wikipedia, as long as I'm the one who created. I have created a page User: Arjun G. Menon/Photos where I would like to put up photos of me. I'm talking about creating a photo album on WP's servers. These images won't be used in articles and stuff, they are mostly family photos (and I don't mind releasing them to the public domain). So is using WP to host one's personal photo album against the rules? Cheers. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 14:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Casliber! I'd like to know whether images taken from Google Maps can be unploded onto Wikipedia. I also ran into trouble for the recent image I uploaded for this template. Cheers. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 06:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Casliber. Regarding the logo; you said don't use Fair Use for userboxes. My quesiton is, which license/copyright-notice whould be used on such images (non-free images inteded only to be used in userboxes) ? (BTW, I've uploaded a new image for the userbox in question, so this one won't be used. Just wanted to know how the system works.) Cheers. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) ..? Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 06:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

More unIDed fungi

G'day Cas,

I've been frogging over the past few days, and the fungi season has definitely started! I have a coral fungi that I thought you would like for wiki, plus I also have a puff ball which I will upload later, will leave a message here when it is uploaded. Saw lots of fungi over the last few days, but only photographed the really interesting ones as I was using my small memory card, and wanted to leave some space for frogs.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/52507572@N00/465979784/?rotated=1&cb=1177065560324

Thanks. --liquidGhoul 10:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

There was another nearby (about half a metre) which was 8cm tall, so I would go with Ramaria lorithamnus. It was taken in rainforest, was very little Eucalypt around. Do you want me to upload it to wiki? Thanks. --liquidGhoul 11:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Nomenclature of fungi

Hey there. I recently stumbled across an issue of Nova Hedwigia Beheift titled "the genera of fungi" (or was it agaricaceae?). It's filled to the brink with mind-numbing nomenclatural discussions of all the genera ever described (I think, anyway). Would it be any use if I looked up the specific ref or any specific genera? Circeus 00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

That would be friggin' trés bién. The first one that would be absolutely great to get a clarification on is Agaricus which was called Psalliota in many texts fro many years and I've been mystified as to why. Other articles I intend cleaning up are Amanita muscaria, which is the one I intended taking to FA first but it just didn't come together well, Gyromitra esculenta as a future FA, Agaricus bisporus as a future FA, and cleaning up the destroying angels - Amanita virosa, Amanita bisporiga and Amanita verna. Boletus edulis would be a good one to check too. let me know if anything interesting pops up. I'll see ifd I can think of any other taxonomic quagmires later today. Work just got real busy :( cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 02:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Generally, that's pretty arcane and only relevant to genus articles, or species that were tightly involving in defining them (for example, there seems to be an odd debate over the multiple type species for Amanita). I'll look up Agaricus, Amanita (since A. muscaria's the current type) and Psalliota. I'll also dig up the ref so you can look it up yourself, with any chance. Circeus 04:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool, keen to see what pops up. cheers, Cas Liber | talk | contribs 05:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I only quickly thumbed through it and noted the full ref (Donk, M.A. (1962). "The generic names proposed for Agaricaceae". Beiheifte zur Nova Hedwigia. 5: 1–320. ISSN 0078-2238.) because I forgot about it until the last minute. Psalliota looks like a classic synonym case. It shares the same type with Agaricus, and might be older. Circeus 01:02, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Weird! I thought Linnaeus was calling all sorts of things Agaricus so I wonder how it could predate that really....anyway I am curious.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, First thing I have to say is... Damn, 18th-19th century taxonomy and nomenclature of fungi is a right mess. Whose bright idea was it to give fungi 3 starting dates in the ICBN???

LOTS of "per" in citation here. See [1]

On Agaricus: Etym.: Possibly "from Agarica of Sarmatica, a district of Russia" (!). Note also Greek ἀγαρικ^[1]όν "a sort of tree fungus" (There's been an Agaricon Adans. genus, treated by Donk in Persoonia 1:180)

Donk says Linnaeus' name is devalidated (so that the proper author citation apparently is "L. per Fr., 1821") because Agaricus was not linked to Tournefort's name (Linnaeus places both Agaricus Dill. and Amanita Dill. in synonymy), but truely a replacement for Amanita Dill., which would require that A. quercinus, not A. campestris be the type. This question compounded by the fact that Fries himself used Agaricus roughly in Linnaeus' sense (which leads to issues with Amanita), and that A. campestris was eventually excluded from Agaricus by Karsten and was apparently in Lepiota at the time Donk wrote this, commenting that a type conservation might become necessary.

All proposals to conserve Agaricus against Psalliota or vice versa have so far been considered superfluous.

On Lepiota: Etym. Probably greek λεπις, "scale"; Basionym is Agaricus sect. Lepiota Pers. 1797, devalidated by later starting date, so the citation is (Pers.) per S.F.Gray. It was only described, without species, and covered an earlier mentioned, but unnamed group of ringed, non-volvate species, regardless of spore color. Fries restricted the genus to white-spored species, and made into a tribe, which was, like Amanita repeatedly raised to genus rank.

The type is unclear. L. procera is considered the type (by Earle, 1909). Agaricus columbrinus (L. clypeolarus) was also suggested (by Singer, 1946) to avoid the many combination involved otherwise in splitting Macrolepiota, which include L. procera. Since both species had been placed into different genera prior to their selection (in Leucocoprinus and Mastocephalus respectively), Donk observes that a conservation will probably be needed, expressing support for Singer's emendation.

On Psalliota: Etym.: ψάλιον, "ring"; Psalliota was first published by Fries (1821) as trib. Psalliota. The type is Agaricus campestris (widely accepted, except by Earle, who proposed A. cretaceus). Kummer (not Quélet, who merely excluded Stropharia) was the first to elevate the tribe to a genus. Basically, Psalliota was the tribe containing the type of Agaricus, so when separated, it should have caused the rest of the genus to be renamed, not what happened. It seems to be currently not considered valid, or a junior homotypic synonym, anyway the explanation is that it was raised by (in retrospect) erroneously maintaining the tribe name.

On Amanita: Etym.: Possibly from Amanon,a mountain in Cilicia.

A first incarnation from Tentamen dispositionis methodicae Fungorum 65. 1797 is cited as devalidated: "Introduced to cover three groups already previously distinguished by Persoon (in [...] Tent. 18. 1797) under Agaricus L., but at that time not named. It is worth stressing that [The species now known as Amanita caesarea] was not mentioned."

With Agaricus L. in use, Amanita was a nomen nudum per modern standard, so Persoon gave it a new life unrelated to its previous incarnations, and that is finally published after a starting date by Hooker (the citation is Pers. per Hook., 1821). He reuses Withering's 1801 definition (A botanical arrangement of British plants, 4th ed.). "The name Amnita has been considered validly published on different occasions, depending on various considerations." Proposed types include (given as Amanita. Sometimes they were selected as Agarici):

A. livida Pers. (By Earle, in 1909). Had been excluded in Vaginata or Amanitopsis and could not be chosen.
A. muscaria Pers. (By Clemens & Shear, 1931) for the genus (1801) from Synopsis fungorum, was generally transferred to the one from Hooker's Flora of Scotland, which is currently considered the valid publication of Amanita (or was in the 50s).
A. phalloides (by Singer, 1936) for the 1801 genus.
A.bulbosa (by Singer & Smith, 1946) for Gray's republication. This is incorrect as Gray's A. bulbosa is a synonym of A. citrina. Some authors consider Gray to be the first valid republisher.
A. caeserea (by Gilbert, 1940). Troublesome because not known personally to Persoon or Fries.

Donk concludes the earliest valid type is A. muscaria, the species in Hooker, adding that he'd personally favor A. citrina.

The name has been republished three times in 1821: in Hooker, Roques and Gray (in that order). Roques maintained Persoon's circumscription, including Amanitopsis and Volvaria. Gray excluded Amanitopsis and Volvariella into Vaginata. Right after, Fries reset the name by reducing the genus to a tribe of Agaricus, minus pink-spored Volvariella. This tribe became a subgenus, than genus via various authors, Quélet, altough not the first, often being attributed the change. Sometimes it was used in a Persoonian sense (whether that is a correct use according to ICBN is not clear to me).

Homonyms of Amanita Pers. are Amanita adans. (1763, devalidated) and Amanita (Dill) Rafin. (1830)

On Boletus: Not including (Not in Agaricaceae, sorry).

Phew! Circeus 18:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I hope you intend to clean that prose ASAP? It's definitely not article-worthy as is. Circeus 01:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm working on it. Got distracted this morning...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

ndashes

HTML ndashes suck. If you're on a Windows box, you can get a real ndash (i.e. unicode) by holding down the ALT key and typing 0150 on the numeric keypad. Hesperian 11:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm...thanks for the tip. I'll try that next. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for indulging me, dude. :-) Hesperian 00:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

If, like me, you're stuck with a laptop without a numeric pad with ALT functionality, n- and m-dashes are the two firsts characters after "insert" in the list placed under the edit window. Circeus 22:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

FWIW, I've edited my keyboard layout for "easy" dashes with a little Microsoft utility (yes, I use Windows). It takes a while to set up, but now I can add en and em dashes with only two keystrokes—quite an improvement for WP editing :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I add shortkeys all the time on various programs. If i used a reallot of weird characters, I'd totally do that to have across windows. Circeus 16:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Pork

LOL, I love your sense of humour. Maimonedes is a good reference. The reality is that Islam takes food restrictions from Judaism; and Christianity doesn't have any restriction (courtesy of three references in the New Testament). The reason why pork should be restricted (along with many other things) is not given explicitly in the Hebrew Bible, hence Bible commentators have been offering guesses since ancient times. My own favourite, however, is Mary Douglas, wife of Louis Leakey, daughter of a Lutheran pastor. Her theory is excellent, based on her cultural anthropological observations, with a decent feel for how Biblical text works. It's rather an abstract theory though. Anyway, I'll see if I can manage a literature review of dietry restrictions in the ANE, especially if there's anything explicit about pork. Don't think I'll find a reference for "why" the pork taboo is in place, though, if it's documented, I'd have read about that in commentaries. Perhaps a clay tablet with the answer has been destroyed in only the last few years during the "troubles" in Iraq. :( Alastair Haines (talk) 21:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

This is the great thing about uncertainty. Lacking an answer, the reports of Maimonides, Mary Douglas and the other guy mentioned are fascinating.Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Scotish pork taboo is a remarkable article! Thanks for that, lol. Alastair Haines (talk) 21:59, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Spotted this. I'll look for a ref to the Maimonides comment. The normal teaching is that pork is no more or less offensive to Jews than any other forbidden meat (dog, horse etc) or forbidden part of kosher animal (blood, Gid Hanasheh etc). The pig (NB pig, not pork - an important distinction which is relevant for the Maimonides comment too, I note) is "singled out" because it alone of the animals that have one of the two "signs" (it has split hooves but doesn't chew the cud) lies down with its legs sticking out. Most quarapeds have their legs folded under them. There's a midrashic lesson to be learned there, apparently, that the pig is immodestly and falsely proclaiming its religious cleanliness, when it is not. Anyway, that said, I'll look into the M comment - he was quite ahead of his time in terms of medical knowledge (check his biog). And NB my OR/POV antennae buzzed when I read that little section. --Dweller (talk) 22:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone has tagged the Religious restrictions on the consumption of pork for OR, though the talk page seems to indicate it is for a different reason....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... makes me more dubious, but I'll check. btw... I'm not Alastair! --Dweller (talk) 23:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Have found good stuff, including online version of Maimonides text. I'll dump it here for you to use as you wish.

I maintain that the food which is forbidden by the Law is unwholesome. There is nothing among the forbidden kinds of food whose injurious character is doubted, except pork (Lev. xi. 7), and fat (ibid. vii. 23). But also in these cases the doubt is not justified. For pork contains more moisture than necessary [for human food], and too much of superfluous matter. The principal reason why the Law forbids swine's flesh is to be found in the circumstance that its habits and its food are very dirty and loathsome. It has already been pointed out how emphatically the Law enjoins the removal of the sight of loathsome objects, even in the field and in the camp; how much more objectionable is such a sight in towns. But if it were allowed to eat swine's flesh, the streets and houses would be more dirty than any cesspool, as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks.^[2]

So, Maimonides argues "pork contains more moisture than necessary [for human food], and too much of superfluous matter", whatever that means! More importantly, the "principal reason" is that if you keep pigs, you end up with a dirty and unhealthy environment. Important note: Maimonides was writing from Islamic Egypt at the time, which is why he mentions "as may be seen at present in the country of the Franks." (ie France)

The comments about the pig's habit of lying with its legs outstretched come from Midrash Vayikra Rabba (ch 13) where it is mentioned as part of an elaborate metaphor, but not in connection with any reason for particularly abhorring the creature.

Hope that helps. --Dweller (talk) 09:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Greek proofing on Wikisource

Hi Cas,

Would you mind bringing your knowledge of Greek to bear on these three Wikisource pages for me please: [2], [3], [4]? It should only take five minutes I think. If you've got a Wikisource or unified account, you can correct any errors you find; else you can let me know and I'll fix them.

Hesperian 02:46, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Much obliged. Hesperian 06:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Easy peasy you say... nearly all of the yellow pages on this work contain Greek. s:la:Liber:De assensione Stoici quid senserint.djvu. If you could verify even a few of them, especially p.20, that would be fantastic. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 15:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You did a good job on p. 20, only one accent switch. I'll have a look later. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Updated Ucontribs

I added two columns and refined the scan logic on my most recent run, and since you are the originator of the concept, I re-evaluated you. Feel free to find any problems with the latest update, if you need an incentive, let me just say how disappointed I am that two weeks have passed and it is still not a solid list of FA's :) Also, if you're thinking of asking for a new program to show the changes between runs of my other program - no (at least not yet:). I'm wondering about putting in the latest "failed" status too, as in (Failed GA), but I'd need some category hints to work that in.

Thanks for the idea, what a great way to learn about article assessments; the wide range(/incoherence) of category names; and mostly, the great diversity of interests and accomplishments of editors of the wiki! Franamax (talk) 12:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh heck. I'll go and reply over there...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Attachment theory

Wikipedia:Peer review/Attachment theory/archive1. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

userpage

(continuing in this thread despite the different topic) I've skimmed through several categories on commons, like Books and Mappae mundi and Image:Vinland Map HiRes.jpg comes closest to what I think you want. I like the borders, esp. the hue. Unfortunately, it's not easy to lighten and probably not possible at all to remove the ink (I gave it a half-assed try with GIMP). Anyway, just to see if we're on the same page as to your idea. Ideally, several similar but non-identical images of blank pages could be used for something similar to the DT userpage, considering that you have quite a lot of stuff on your userpage (with a different section on each page and some playful navigation). Or did you have something like a central disambiguation in mind, putting all the stuff in different subpages? I envision a self-made treasure map (the real problem would be to get the ragged border to look authentic) with an imagemap overlay on the different words (rendered into the image, possibly handwritten), linking to all the different sections (like on my old userpage or using subpages). And I see a compass rose in one of the corners (bottom right?). Everyme (was Dorftrottel) (talk) 18:34, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

(i) I like the font, but I'm not sure how well it would blend into the treasure map concept. (ii) I still can't believe that commons wouldn't have dozens of images like we're looking for among their roughly estimated ten thousand primary and secondary sexual characteristics copyvios. Oh well. On a related note, my GF is a graphic designer, maybe she has an idea where to get such an image, or can help create one that could be filled in. She's also great —professional, actually— with Photoshop, maybe she can alternatively clean up the Vineland map with some of those tools I never use). Everyme (was Dorftrottel) (talk) 06:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. Yes, I look for compass roses on commons, too, and I agree this one is nice and can also easily be used to put it in another picture. It's a pity that the background you found isn't free, because then we'd be ready to go. I've asked my GF about the Vineland map, but she said it would take ages to get it right. Everyme (was Dorftrottel) (talk) 23:09, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

A bird-related article that could benefit from your attention

Don Merton. Okay, you made one edit to it back in January 2007. I have a feeling this is a pretty interesting fellow, as would be the saving of the black robin. Of course, I also have a feeling that there are a few other bird-loving editors who pop into this page occasionally and might also be motivated to improve the article. At least this fellow is from the same hemisphere as you. :-) Risker (talk) 04:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Dunno much about him, for some reason someone really enjoys vandalising Black Robin and I am mystified why. I'll see what I can do. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:12, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

New article

Hello again, I have recently dropped my previous article, Biodistribution, and am now working on Musculoskeletal system. Upon research there is more information regarding this new article.--Dondevoy01 (talk) 14:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

In need of assistance

Hello Casliber, I saw that you were interested in biological studies and am currently engaged in a project to raise a stub article to GA ( hoping for FA) statis. Incase you are interested please take a look -> Biodistribution. I have found some stuff on it as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dondevoy01 (talk • contribs) 14:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Sandwich Tern

I see you've taken it on, good work. The display and vision bits at Crested Tern apply for all the genus. The opening sentence isn't fully supported by Bridge - although Elegant is very close, Lesser Crested isn't, other than being in the same genus. I won't abandon this article (after all, one good ... aaaarrrggh, it's catching), but let me know if there's anything specific esp from BWP, Olsen or Harrison, where I have the books. Now, must be time for a couple of slices of bread with some meat in. 10:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Attachment theory peer review

How are the frontal lobes doing? Fainites ^barley 21:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Sleep deprived and head cold. Only doingmindless things. Thx for reminder. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Australian figs

Been a bit of a spike in editing the few days... Guettarda (talk) 00:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Cute tool that. We'll see how many GAs, DYKs and FAs we can get. Got bits and pieces of horticultural stuff to add yet :) ...just musing on how to bonsai my species... Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

UFOINFO

Hi, a site called UFOINFO is used in multiple articles as reference. Do you think it should be considered RS? I cannot see any editorial board or anything by which it can be considered RS. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 05:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Neither can I. I guess next step is googling principal writers to see if they are notable independently. Not really my area. Otherwise the newspaper reports listed on the website themselves may have to serve...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:11, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

perennial user page project

How about this? The hue is crap, but it's just a quick edit to see if you like the direction. user:Everyme 14:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Ooo-arrrr me hearties, it be a fine 'n' tidy start, I be lookin' with keen oyes at what comes next..(seriously looks good, be good if you could make it somehow stretch, as in slot in horizontal bits to keep the bottom pattern at the bottom IYKWIM) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I see a minor typo. It says "Welcome to Casliber's Cove" where it should say "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." Hesperian 14:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

OH you mean like depressive realism or something...ergh....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

You could use the image as a fixed frame, with a scrollable text frame overlaid within it, and/or you could use it as a frame for different "pages" like my old userpage (the final revision of my old userpage combined both: "individual pages" each with a scrollable "inner" frame for the content of each page. btw: could you do me a favour and restore it? I find I need access to some formatting tricks I've collected there). At any rate, I'm going to work over the hue and upload a version without the text. It'd be possible to clone the middle (blank) part, but the limitations are manifold (apart from the challenge of making it look halfway acceptable): Different browsers and different users prefer wildly different font sizes, so you'd end up with a scrollable frame any way (where people would have to scroll "twice", once within the page and once within the frame) or you'd end up with blank space towards the bottom. user:Everyme 14:52, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

At User:Everyme/Casliber, I've installed a simply formatted proposal to get us started. Let me know what you think. My idea is to slowly and occasionally keep exchanging until something you like develops (otherwise until you decide you want something completely different, or to keep the current design). user:Everyme 17:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I've made it width-scalable. I image a pseudo-frame layout similar to my old page, with the added fun of people clicking the Welcome text to arrive at a table of contents with every entry right next to the inner (text frame) scrollbar, at the point corresponding to the position of that section. Should be great after I brush up the background images. user:Everyme 18:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

aharon42 new user. adoption

Hi, I saw that you are willing to adopt newbies. I looked over your userpage and I think I really like your eclectic interests. I am starting medical school this coming year after completing research I am doing so I have a whole year to become an experienced WP editor. I would like to learn the basics and even after reading the WP introduction, some things are still not clear so I would really appreciate a mentor to help me through the gray areas. With respect.aharon42 (talk) 05:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

OK aharon42, ask away with whatever you have trouble with and I will see how I can help. Happy to help/mentor etc. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll read up on those pages. Also, I would be very happy to intern with you and do any scut work or research for any of your WP articles so that I can gain experience (Just like I do in the ER already!). I was also going to read your archives and look over edits so that we will be on the same page. You know watch one, do one, teach one.. I am at the watch stage of course. Thanks again.aharon42 (talk) 08:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the lead. I will get working on it over the next couple of days. Should I respond here or should we just communicate in one place (Is this crosstalk?) I have seen editors follow both practices. And I love whales and dolphins. I think I have watched every video ever made about them! I would love to write and article about a specific species with you as a more advanced project when I am more skilled.aharon42 (talk) 15:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I will also read your lessons to Arjun so you don't have to teach the same thing twice. May I contact him and offer to collaborate with him? I am learning Hindi and am very interested in Indian culture.aharon42 (talk) 15:03, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know of any offhand. Thanks for looking. I'll keep working on that other article you mentioned. Thanks.aharon42 (talk) 15:45, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I took a look at the mallard article and I tried to reference the the first book listed there. The premade template link that you sent me to does not show me how to make a refernce for two authors. I am going to make the reference for one author and then maybe you can show how to do it correctly?? with respectaharon42 (talk) 10:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I tried to put in the reference, but I believe that its a chapter or article in a larger book and once again, I dont see that kind of template so I have been defeated, at least temporalily. Any suggestions? aharon42 (talk) 10:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) - I looked through your contributions - did you proceed with the edits or did you just look at preview. I will give you an example at this duck genus. I often just slot them into the first author tag to avoid too much fuss. Give me a minute. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, you watching? Like this - see my formatting, illustrating what you do with this, showing the diffs is often very helpful. So note that I can replace the 'first=, last=' with plain old author= and then stuff all the authors in the one category. Different editors do different things so no problem, some like those two sections. Do you follow it? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

X-ray specs

I've made another tweak to the uContribs tool. I've run it for yourself - updated numbers, plus the addition of analysis of your Wikipedia-space contribs. (Theoretically, this will be any-space) The notable feature of this is that the program can consolidate your edit counts into "families" - a family being defined as everything before the first slash (/). This gives a little further look into the user activities outside of article space.

All my new software is almost certainly wrong, so prizes for figuring out where it's gone awry. Of course, I already know it works perfectly! (NB there's a little whiffle with total edit count at the "Family" table, so that doesn't count!) Additional comments and suggestions are welcome. Franamax (talk) 01:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Aha! Allowed me to check and rerate templates. Fascinating, especially a slew of FAs I helped way down the list. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

For the record, I tweaked the class rating of the templates so there should be no conflicts (can't tweak the importances but nevermind), if that is worth checking. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Banksia sphaerocarpa var. pumilio

FloraBase has an entry for this, but no other information.[5] Know anything about it? Hesperian 04:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Never mind; I found it.[6] Hesperian 04:55, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

... and I see your name in the Acknowledgements too.... Hesperian 05:00, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

XD - cool! We were all always arguing about the distinctness of northern ashbyii, and Alex told me about the incana. sphaerocarpa makes my eyes goggle, I knew about latifolia but had no knowledge of pumilio. Wow, must go and read it now. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:09, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I guess you might want to have a look at this too. Hesperian 11:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I've removed a comment of yours

Casliber;
I've undone and edit of yours. It was fairly provocative, don't you think? That being said, I'll do no more w.r.t. it should you (or anyone else) decide to put your "child grooming" comment back.
Cheers big ears,
brenneman 06:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

(sigh)...(shrugs shoulders) yeah, fair enough. We'll stick to the subject, though I am getting less confident of all aprties accepting consensus in debates outside AfD and FAC...for amusement have a look at Talk:Werewolf#Merger_proposal - at what point do I close this as consensus/no consensus or how %#%(&%%*& long do I leave it open....(jumps back to original topic in stream-of-consciousness typing) I can't chase these Monty orginal sources, I have tried to find a psych definition of pederast but it appears to be treated synonymously with pedophilia or not mnetioned at all in any psych material I have found. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Schizophrenia FAR

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What a gem. Can't be bothered with janitorial work (right, that's what I'm for, because I have all the free time in the world), then introduces MoS breaches and reverts me when I correct them, then removes messages from his talk so you can't communicate with him. I guess the world revolves around his needs and the rest of us are just here to clean up. I'm going to unwatch since I'm absolutely certain you can deal with it. In all your free time, ha ! So much for the MDD FAC. Sheesh. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

A Sydney Meetup

G'day all - I'm dropping this note in to let you know that there's to be a Wiki Meetup the week after next, on Tuesday, 21st at 18:00 at The Paragon in Circular Quay. If you've ever thought about popping along to one of these, but haven't had the chance - now's the time! If you love the idea, but the time and / or place don't quite work for you, please do feel free to wiki edit away at the meetup page and I'm sure we can sort something out :-) Meetups are a great way to share wiki-thoughts, meet wiki-friends, and generally learn how to prefix all areas of your life with wiki- :-)

It's a very friendly bunch, and we're hoping to be able to formally collect membership fees and details for the Australian Chapter (did you know that we're the only current english speaking chapter? Join now for kudos and future bragging rights!) - as well as just generally have a good 'ol time. I look forward to seeing you there :-) best, Privatemusings (talk) 07:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

^ Letter is script and looks like a Russian и.
^ Maimonides, Guide for the perplexed, Book III ch.48. Can be viewed online at http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/gfp184.htm

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[2] Maimonides, Guide for the perplexed, Book III ch.48. Can be viewed online at http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/gfp/gfp184.htm

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