User talk:PeterHuntington
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Do apologize if you took offense to maintenance tagging of the article, I often go through random articles and tag those which are in need of various things with the appropriate tags. Certainly, it's nothing intended against you or any other editor of the article, even featured articles need a bit of work sometimes! Seraphimblade Talk to me Please review me! 14:16, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Again, I do apologize if you took any sort of offense! We often use different types of maintenance tags to put articles into different categories, users who are good at dealing with those particular issues then can go through those categories and look at those articles, helping with the issues. It is not intended to disparage you or indicate that any editor has done poor work-indeed, it looks like your work was very good! However, please do note that there is no right to "reclaim" or remove work, whether or not you did it. All contributions are submitted under GFDL as soon as they're made, by submitting the edit, you explicitly agreed to release your rights under that license. Seraphimblade Talk to me Please review me! 14:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
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Filling in the edit summary field greatly helps your fellow contributors in understanding what you changed, so please always fill in the edit summary field, especially for big edits or when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you.
Please remember to mark your edits as minor when (and only when) they genuinely are minor edits (see Wikipedia:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one (and vice versa) is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting and minor rearranging of text should be flagged as a 'minor edit'. Thanks! --Mel Etitis (Talk) 22:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Honorifics in Article Titles
Actually, there are policies about this. The general rule is, avoid them. Examples, Martin Luther King, Jr. is titles as "Martin Luther King, Jr.", not "The Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr."
Most saints are not titled with the word "Saint" in the title; for example Paul of Tarsus, James, son of Zebedee, etc (I know that there are many with "Saint" in the title, this is a relatively new consensus, and there are over 2,000 articles on saints, so the transition will take a while). For popes, the agreed upon convention is "Pope X", not "Pope Saint X" or their name prior to ascending to the papacy.
You can see the relevent policies at naming conventions ... there are a number of sub-pages, that all have more information and general guidelines. Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, drop me a note. -- Pastordavid 16:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Henry Rogers
Thanks for your comments on my Talk page. I have found HHR to be an intriguing character, although as you are aware, my initial interest was through the Virginian Railway. I hope one day to make it to Fairhaven, of which I have read so much. Thanks again. Mark. Vaoverland 02:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- FYI, In my research, I uncovered the fact that HHR worked for the Fairhaven Branch Railroad, which was not yet part of the Old Colony Railroad at the time. I have edited his article to make that change, and written a new one about the Fairhaven Branch RR which also mentions him. Mark Vaoverland 23:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Knud Olsen
I posted the following on Boatman's user page today: "Thanks for your support on Knud Olsen. I spent two hours cleaning up an article like this from the clean-up backlog because I recognized Olson's name and knew of the importance of the OK dinghy (I sailed one as a boy) and the Folkboat movement. Then some pisher like Virek, whose obviously never gotten the seat of his pants wet, comes along and wants to delete the article. How is a guy like Virek different to a vandal? I wish there was a way to restrict the power to make deletion recommendations to those who actually do something useful (like writing something) or know the first thing about the subject at hand. Frankly, I grow weary of the tyrrany of the unqualified opinion. There's a whole band of these ignoranti prowling through the stacks. Your thoughts? (Out of a sense of fairness, I will post this on Virus's page as well.)" PeterHuntington 17:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking interest in this article. It's great that such a skilled editor with a whole month or two of wikipedia experience can go around posting ridiculous comments on user pages. I recommend you get out and read some of the great pages wikipedia provides and learn what wikipedia is really about. For example what the cleanup tags are for. The article in question has no citations what-so-ever. It also has no proof of notability. These are common sense reasons for pages to be put up for deletion (gives good reason to be a hoax, most people don't know about some random boat maker), have cleanup tags or have an unreliable tag which is now added. If this tag is removed without adding citations an admin will be promptly notified. I also laugh at the irony of this situation, perhaps you should read about something before you go preaching it. I guess you're use to preaching BS judging from your heavy roman catholic edits. You'd be a lot more helpful to the community by reading about what things actually mean, then implementing them in a non-douche bag-like fashion. Thanks and good luck in the future.Virek 07:44, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Peter, comments such as "a whole band of these ignoranti" do not assume good faith, and are generally considered to be personal attacks. Please tone it down when talking about other editors ... and comment on the articles, not the editors. Please see the Wikipedia policy WP:NPA. -- Pastordavid 08:03, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Help Offered
Thanks Peter for your help : I can see thet you have corrected some my old aricle ).About the idea to send you my new edit in italian then you translate it in english I prefer to wait some days before to do it because first I want to understand what I can do with more experience as wikipedia editor. I answer you only now because that is my first log in in wikipedia since 5 days.Lucifero4
Our lady of the Ghiaie
Peter I know that you are interested in that but what I can see that the case happened in 1944. now in 2007 there is not an answer about that case from the roman catholic church.I will write you something when I will have more information.lucifero4
Re: Edits
I apologize for this message coming a few days late - I hoped to reply earlier, but it's been hectic around here.
I see that somebody else has responded to your question about titles, so I hope it's all right if I just address your comments about Lucifero's edits. For me, many of this person's edits have been a mess stylistically, but solid in terms of informational value. We don't disagree there. You also made a good case for keeping the Pope's visit in Lorenzago di Cadore, and I have no problems with it remaining in the article now.
I admit that I am troubled, however, by the communication barrier that's still very much there. When I reverted several of Lucifero's edits, he/she put them all back in without explanation or justification. In the case of the Pope, I was wrong, and that was info that deserved to stay. But the only way I knew that was because you stepped up to clarify. In the other cases, such as the Senator's daughter trivia, I had (and still have) issues about the relevance of those edits and explained as much in the edit summary, but was ignored and reverted. But I have no idea whether it's because he/she disagreed with my reasoning, didn't read the reasoning, has a stronger case of their own, etc. He/she hasn't responded to my talk page comments, and frankly, it's understandable but still frustrating. Some of Lucifero's edits should be reinstated, but others should not. That's a distinction that's true for any editor, but one that he/she doesn't seem to be making. Regardless of the merits of what I've changed or reverted, it's been changed back, and I'm not sure how to handle that. I see where you're coming from, and I hope I haven't been too hard on this person - I really don't want to discourage anyone. But right now I do think it's important that my reversions should be respected as well, as long as I remain open to changes. Anyway, the point of this long-winded comment is to say that I would be happy to reinstate the info about the Pope, had Lucifero not reinstated it the next day already, and that I'll try to keep a more open mind about his/her edits from now on. But I also wanted to let you know I don't think Lucifero's reinstatement of all his material without discussion is an effective method either, and I hope you'll agree there should be a happy medium somewhere in between. -Cue the Strings 07:50, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Gran Colombia-Peru War
Thanks for cheking the article,it wass a little incomplete cus it talked about the begining of the war(wich wass good for Peru) and then jump to the end of hostilities whitout deeping in the land war.Its more fair now.Cheers--Andres rojas22 17:20, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Out lady of the Ghiaie
I think that you have visit http://www.madonnadelleghiaie.it/ .For my opinion this site his managed by a group close to Radio Maria so they are fanatic of the Holy Mary.I know from my aunt that cames from Bonate (the village where the things happened) that the story is quite different.
McCarthy
Just wanted to say thanks for your view on the Talk page; while I disagree a bit with your reasoning I do appreciate your taking the time to comment. And maybe I'm wrong, I often am. Kaisershatner 15:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Railroads in Mass
If you have info, I'll be glad to start those two articles. I don't know much (anything really) about either. Mark Vaoverland 04:17, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to WikiProject France
STTW (talk) 08:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Ralph Nader
My apologies Peter. It looks like I wrongly put you in the Ralph Nader sewing cirlce. Something is going on there, though. Look into this tangle of thorns: The Nervous Mermaid is wholly interested in Ralph Nader and has not commented on any other article in Wikipedia except for Seasons & a Muse, Inc, an article that has had only two contributors, one of whom, not coincidentally, is 76.166.123.129, who is often a commentator on the Ralph Nader article. Meanwhile, there's Telogen, who only comments on Ralph Nader and one other article, Jeanne Marie Spicuzza, an article which also happens to be visited often by user 76.166.123.129 very, very often. Nader is a controversial figure. Still, it can't be a coincidence that so many cluster factions have converged at one place. Griot 02:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Every movement needs its heroes...
...has made me laugh each time I've read it--three or four at this point. Fine, fine work there. And excellent commentary on the McCarthy lede a couple days back. Best, Dan—DCGeist 15:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Carnival of Cádiz
Hi, Peter Huntington. I have seen your cleanup of the article Cádiz. Thank you for your efforts to change many Spanglish sentences to proper English mantaining their meaning. I have made some changes in the section "Carnival of Cádiz" (spoiling the grammatical correction again, I am afraid) because there were some nuances that were not exact. Neither chirigotas nor quartets or comparsas dance as main part of their performance. They express and emphasize the meaning of their lyrics with their hands, and they may occasinaly shake or jump... but this cannot be considered dance, for most of the time their feet don't move. No Carnival group in Cádiz can be defined as a "dance ensemble". If, exceptionally their costume is, for example, Ballet dancers, they may make a parody of dance, but that is another concept. The other main nuance is that you identified the Cádiz Quartets with the Comparsas and make a parallel with Barbershop quartets and Mariachi. Coro, Comparsa, Chirigota, Cuarteto and Romancero are different concepts. I tried to explain it in the article Carnival of Cádiz with my horrible Spanglish. You could have a look there and see the differences.
Please, feel free to improve the grammar of both Carnival of Cádiz and to the changes that I made to the section in Cádiz.
Thank you again for your help, --Garcilaso 11:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Hello, again! I have just seen the corrections and I find them OK, except for the definition of romancero: their compositions are always in verse, and original. As you can see, the apparently chaotic carnival has some general rules. I encourage you to know it in person, if you have a good command of Spanish language you will enjoy a lot! About the Roman theater , I happen to be envolved somehow in the history of its discovery. Well, I have some data about the recent history of that piece of Cádiz.
The Theater was discovered in 1981, under a well-know foundry at the "Campo del Sur". (That is not close to Playa de la Victoria, but, as it is name says, at the southest border of the city). Some parts of the Roman theater were integrated with the housing from the Middle Ages to that moment. The theater was built by Lucio Cornelio Balbo, Senator and military man born in Gades (Roman name for Cádiz). The theatre was mentioned by Cicero in his Epistolae ad Familiares as being used for the personal propaganda of Balbo. If I have time to arrange the informations I have I will add them to the article.
Thank you again for your help (and for your indulgence! :-)) --Garcilaso 11:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, well, well......this is a quite subjective matter, but, anyway, talking always about clichés (you can find people of different personalities wherever you search) a distinction should be done about the public image of Leperos and people of Cádiz.
- Lepe, as well as Motril was some time ago for the area of Granada, is a village that was considered very rural, and they were the target of a host of jokes begining with: " Do you know what a Lepero does when he wants to...?" or "How many Leperos are needed to screw a bulb?" (They were thirty-one: one to hold the bulb and thirty to spin him). This kind of jokes were created alluding to Leperos even by people who hadn´t seen in their life a Lepero in person. Beside, this kind of jokes have a parallel in almost all the countries, and they are sometimes even the same jokes. Some years ago, people from Lepe admitted that this cliché, beyond accusing them of thick and non-inteligent, was a very good advertising for their products, mainly the strawberries, as it made them nice for the consumers, who identified the name of the village with all the jokes, and they dedided to promote the jokes making even a TV program.
- People from Cádiz is a different case: they are funny just talking, their expressions are quick and sharp, they have always an smile for every problem and they have became famous in Spain for their humour and joie de vivre. Of course, their Carnival has much to do with it, but also other aspects, as the Cádiz football team supporters, that are recognised all over Spain as respectful with the other teams, with their funny songs and friendly behaviour, while most of the other team supporters are known for just the contrary.
- But,of course, there is not an official degree for that! :-)
- Any other question you have, please make it whenever you want (even if it is not as transcendental as this one!!!:-))
- Yours, --Garcilaso 10:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Lede on, Macduff
I'm aware of it--the spelling betrays my journalistic background; they say "lede" is spelled that way in the business so as not to confuse it with the "lead" (pronounced "led") of the old typefaces. It's a habit-cum-quirk I'm too fond of to kick. You'll see here in Wikipedia:Lead section, that our fellow encyclopedists accept it as an alternate spelling: "The lead section, lead paragraph or lede or introduction of a Wikipedia article is the section before the first headline."—DCGeist 22:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wrongo—it's "graf." And I never did cotton to "30." Always went with ==endit==.—DCGeist 22:54, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for posting this in the wrong spot.
Why call my cause Neo-fascism? Because I want to take a fresh look a twice elected senator that was buried with full honors and was a much higher approval rating then the presidents at the time? I think you should be ashamed of your techniques. You should discuss your disagreements, instead of attacking them and calling their ideas Fascism. Mantion 22:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I would like you to reply and explain why you feel it is ok to personally attack people with differing views.Mantion 06:00, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- What you would like and what I intend to do are two different things. Please, I beg you, leave me alone. I see no point in arguing with someone like you. PeterHuntington 08:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Peter, comments such as "neo-fascism" do not assume good faith, and are generally considered to be personal attacks. Please tone it down when talking about other editors ... and comment on the articles, not the editors. Please see the Wikipedia policy WP:NPA. This sounds very failure for some reason. Mantion 11:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
McCarthy, McCarthyism
I am inviting all recent editors of Joseph McCarthy to comment on a current dispute. User:KarlBunker, in his stated view out of concern for WP:NPOV#Undue weight, has reverted, deleted, and selectively reinstated factually accurate sourced information that I have added. I contend he is in error. Please see the discussion at Talk:Joseph McCarthy. Thank you. Kaisershatner 17:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)