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'''British Sign Language''' ('''BSL''') is the [[sign language]] used in the [[United Kingdom]] (UK), b preferred language of [[deaf]] people in the UK; the number of signers has been put at 30,000 to 70,000. The language makes use of space and involves movement of the hands, body, face and head. Many thousands of people who are not Deaf also use BSL, as hearing relatives of Deaf people, sign language interpreters or as a result of other contact with the British Deaf community.


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==Relationships with other sign languages==
Although the United Kingdom and the [[United States]] share [[English language|English]] as the predominant spoken language, British Sign Language is quite distinct from [[American Sign Language]] (ASL). BSL [[fingerspelling]] is also different from ASL, as it uses two hands whereas ASL uses one. BSL is also distinct from [[Irish Sign Language]] (ISL) (ISG in the [[International Organization for Standardization|ISO]] system) which is more closely related to [[French Sign Language]] (LSF) and ASL.


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It is also distinct from [[Signed English]], a manually coded method expressed to represent the [[English language]].
Appreciate the info.[[User:Linda,LCADC|Linda,LCADC]] ([[User talk:Linda,LCADC|talk]]) 17:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)


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The sign languages used in [[Australia]] and [[New Zealand]], [[Auslan]] and [[New Zealand Sign Language]], respectively, evolved largely from 19th century BSL, and all retain the same manual alphabet, grammar, and similar lexicon. BSL, Auslan and NZSL together may be called [[BANZSL]]. [[Makaton]], a communication system for people with cognitive impairments or other communication difficulties, was originally developed with signs borrowed from British Sign Language. The sign language used in [[Sri Lanka]] is also closely related to BSL despite the spoken language not being English, demonstrating the distance between sign languages and spoken ones.
Why didn't you notify me of [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Promenade Pictures]] as the template calls for? <font family="Comic sans">[[User:Corvus cornix|<span style="color:green">Corvus cornix</span>]]<sub>''[[User talk:Corvus cornix|<span style="color:Green">talk</span>]]''</sub></font> 23:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


The only reason I found it was because I happened to be looking through the AfD page. <font family="Comic sans">[[User:Corvus cornix|<span style="color:green">Corvus cornix</span>]]<sub>''[[User talk:Corvus cornix|<span style="color:Green">talk</span>]]''</sub></font> 00:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
BSL users campaigned [[Recognition of sign languages|to have BSL recognised]] on a similar level to [[Welsh language|Welsh]], [[Scottish Gaelic language|Scottish Gaelic]], and [[Irish language|Irish]]. BSL was recognised as a language in its own right by the UK government on 18 March 2003, but it has no legal protection, so therefore is not an official language of the United Kingdom.


==[[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Musni]]==
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BSL has many regional [[dialect]]s. Signs used in [[Scotland]], for example, may not always be understood in southern England, and vice versa. Some signs are even more local, occurring only in certain towns or cities (such as the Manchester system of number signs). Likewise, some may go in or out of fashion, or evolve over time, just as terms in spoken languages do.


== Thanks for getting that. ==
Many British television channels broadcast programmes with in-vision signing, using BSL, as well as specially made programmes aimed mainly at [[Deaf culture|Deaf]] people such as the [[BBC]]'s ''[[See Hear]]'' and [[Channel 4]]'s ''[[VEE-TV]]''.


I reverted the wrong change. -- [[User:Scarpy|Scarpy]] ([[User talk:Scarpy|talk]]) 16:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
[[BBC News (TV channel)|BBC News]] broadcasts in-vision signing at 07:00-07:45, 08:00-08:20 and 13.00-13.45 GMT each weekday. [[BBC One]] also broadcasts in-vision signed repeats of the channel's primetime programmes between 00.30 to 04.00 each weekday.


== Re:warn on opium ==
==Learning British Sign Language==
British Sign Language can be learnt throughout the UK and three examination systems exist. Courses are provided by community colleges, local centres for Deaf people and private organisations. Most tutors are native users of sign language and hold a relevant teaching qualification.


That was due to an edit conflict, and I've restored your version. However, in the future, please, instead of templating me, just come to my talk page and ask why I did it. Even if it's blatant vandalism, instead of tarnishing my reputation with a misplaced warning template, ask me what happened. With a newer editor, obviously, revert and template. But with a more experienced user, it's always better to bypass templates and see what went wrong. [[User:Miquonranger03|miquonranger03]] ([[User talk:Miquonranger03|talk]]) 05:58, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
The Council for the Advancement of Communication with Deaf People ([[CACDP|CACDP or CAP]]) is accredited by the Qualifications and Curriculum Authority (QCA) and provides awards at the following levels:
:You might be surprised how far people will dig in editor review and RfA. [[User:Miquonranger03|miquonranger03]] ([[User talk:Miquonranger03|talk]]) 06:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


== Battle of Chawinda ==
*Level I – Elementary
Hey Advocate hope your well i need some help regarding the article on [[Battle of Chawinda]] recently a pro indian editor Nichalp has reverted the page putting his pro india stance in the war info box claiming Pakistan only repelled the attack while the article clearly states india lost the battle which is started the page was stable for several months but since Nichalp has arrived its been changed from Decisive Pakistan victory to Pakistan repelled the attack could you please change it to its neutral factual base please cheers [[Special:Contributions/86.153.131.220|86.153.131.220]] ([[User talk:86.153.131.220|talk]]) 10:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
*Level II – Intermediate
== PAK ==
*Level III/ [[NVQ]] 3 – Advanced
sorry to bother you again but a editor named kashmircloud has reverted the neutral edits on PAK and added his pro india edits in the article he seems to be pushing only his pro indian POV by diverting the articles name into POK and misleading readers so can you do anything to block or warn him and stop him from vandalising PAK article again cheers [[Special:Contributions/86.156.214.251|86.156.214.251]] ([[User talk:86.156.214.251|talk]]) 14:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
*[[NVQ]] 4 – Required as part of the NVQ 4 BSL/English Interpreting


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:Hope you notice that I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AFeatured_list_candidates%2F2002_NFL_Expansion_Draft&diff=242621763&oldid=242548737 added more comments to the FLC].--'''''[[User:SRX|<font color="black">S</font></font>]]<sub>[[User talk:SRX|<font color="blue">R</font>]]</sub>[[User:SRX/Guestbook|<font color="black">X</font></font>]]''''' 02:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


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I am unsure as to why you have marked this as a CopyVio. As it stands most of the templates have been remade (that link to that list) with non-Nielsen information. Nielsen doesn't own a list on Wikipedia, they own the information and why the lists are made, but not a list on Wikipedia. I ask that you bring this before [[WT:TVS|WP:TVS]], the TV Station WikiProject for more input. - </noinclude><small style="border:1px solid #990000;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<font style="color:#990000;background:#FFFFFF;">NeutralHomer</font>]] • [[User_talk:Neutralhomer|<font style="color:#000000;background:#FFFFFF;">Talk</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/Neutralhomer|<font style="color:#000000;background:#FFFFFF;">Work</font>]] • October 6, 2008 @ 03:17</small>
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== [[1969 NFL Draft]] ==

As I've been reprimanded for this before I'll just make note to you that Wikilink's should not be duplicated within an article as you did with the 1969 NFL Draft article / table / list. I have since repaired the edit/s. Please only wikilink first instance or first instance of importance. Happy editing [[User:Slysplace|<font color="green">Slysplace</font>]] [[User talk:Slysplace|<font color="666"><sup>'''talk'''</sup></font>]] [[User:Slysplace/bs|<font color="red"><sup>♫</sup></font>]] 01:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:: Regarding the expansion draft pages, put them on your watch list. I hit those a few days ago, or at least formated your tables for you. Not knowing the format your going for or how much data you wish to include I did not want to go too much further. [[User:Slysplace|<font color="green">Slysplace</font>]] [[User talk:Slysplace|<font color="666"><sup>'''talk'''</sup></font>]] [[User:Slysplace/bs|<font color="red"><sup>♫</sup></font>]] 21:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::: I thought that I had all of them watched, but evidently I didn't. Great start on the 1961 table. The one that is by far the most complete is the [[2002 NFL Expansion Draft]] article, it is currently [[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2002 NFL Expansion Draft|undergoing a feature list review]]. I guess if I had a format, that would be my model? Although I am open to anything that is uniform across all the draft pages and gets them feature list status eventually. I love football season... :) --[[User:2008Olympian]]<sub>[[User talk:2008Olympian|chitchat]]</sub><sup>[[Special:Contributions/2008Olympian|seemywork]]</sup> 01:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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Appreciate the info.Linda,LCADC (talk) 17:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Why didn't you notify me of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Promenade Pictures as the template calls for? Corvus cornixtalk 23:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

The only reason I found it was because I happened to be looking through the AfD page. Corvus cornixtalk 00:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback on my article and your statement of support. Wikipedia is fun and educational and I am enjoying being part of the community. I appreciate your making me feel welcome. Gchuva (talk) 00:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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I reverted the wrong change. -- Scarpy (talk) 16:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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You might be surprised how far people will dig in editor review and RfA. miquonranger03 (talk) 06:19, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Battle of Chawinda

Hey Advocate hope your well i need some help regarding the article on Battle of Chawinda recently a pro indian editor Nichalp has reverted the page putting his pro india stance in the war info box claiming Pakistan only repelled the attack while the article clearly states india lost the battle which is started the page was stable for several months but since Nichalp has arrived its been changed from Decisive Pakistan victory to Pakistan repelled the attack could you please change it to its neutral factual base please cheers 86.153.131.220 (talk) 10:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

PAK

sorry to bother you again but a editor named kashmircloud has reverted the neutral edits on PAK and added his pro india edits in the article he seems to be pushing only his pro indian POV by diverting the articles name into POK and misleading readers so can you do anything to block or warn him and stop him from vandalising PAK article again cheers 86.156.214.251 (talk) 14:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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I am unsure as to why you have marked this as a CopyVio. As it stands most of the templates have been remade (that link to that list) with non-Nielsen information. Nielsen doesn't own a list on Wikipedia, they own the information and why the lists are made, but not a list on Wikipedia. I ask that you bring this before WP:TVS, the TV Station WikiProject for more input. - NeutralHomerTalkWork • October 6, 2008 @ 03:17

I am requesting the US "markets" be removed from the list as this is a list for NORTH AMERICA and Nielsen doesn't control all of North America markets (or any of the US markets, IMO). - NeutralHomerTalkWork • October 8, 2008 @ 04:04

As I've been reprimanded for this before I'll just make note to you that Wikilink's should not be duplicated within an article as you did with the 1969 NFL Draft article / table / list. I have since repaired the edit/s. Please only wikilink first instance or first instance of importance. Happy editing Slysplace talk 01:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the expansion draft pages, put them on your watch list. I hit those a few days ago, or at least formated your tables for you. Not knowing the format your going for or how much data you wish to include I did not want to go too much further. Slysplace talk 21:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
I thought that I had all of them watched, but evidently I didn't. Great start on the 1961 table. The one that is by far the most complete is the 2002 NFL Expansion Draft article, it is currently undergoing a feature list review. I guess if I had a format, that would be my model? Although I am open to anything that is uniform across all the draft pages and gets them feature list status eventually. I love football season... :) --User:2008Olympianchitchatseemywork 01:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

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