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iPhone Release

Should the release of the Apple iPhone be placed under June 29, 2007? I think that it is significant because no other phone has gotten this much hype in all the world.Grammar Watchdog 15:51, 18 October 2007


iPod Release Date

Please let me know why you removed my iPod Release Date edit to June 29. That is a revolutionary piece of technology and deserves a place in the annals of Wikipedia. Demigod 23 December 1, 2007

I didn't remove your addition of the release date of the iPhone (which is what I think you meant). The editor at 203.109.245.204 removed it. That is unless you are also editing from the IP address 69.202.36.234 and in that case I did remove it because it was not properly added (it was added in a way that is usually used to slip by non-notable events by putting them on the same line as a notable event). And since that editor's other edits were also not constructive, I had no qualms about removing it. The item has been added about 15 times and it has been removed every time by more than 7 different editors. So clearly there is some honest dispute as to the global notability. Personally, I don't think it should be listed because it does not signify a major human accomplishment or a social milestone - as one removing editor said, "its just a phone". It didn't change the way the world thinks about something. In ten years it will no longer be notable. Another important factor in the removals is likely that most times it has been added simply as Apple iPhone is released in the US. OK, so what. This says nothing to help the casual reader understand why it should be there. Did it break a major global record? If it did, will the record reasonably be broken soon? If so, it shouldn't be there because it represents a fad. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 23:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. My mistake. I did mean the iPhone. :-)Grammar Watchdog 03:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)Demigod 23[reply]