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July 15

Pedantry

I have been reading the article College Town and on the talk page I came across a discussion over whether college town should be the correct term as some may technically be cities or villages. I stated there that 'college town; is the term in common use and that in my opinion it is the job of an encyclopedia to state what is in common use and not what should be in common use. I'm sure these examples of pedantry are fairly common on wikipedia but didn't find anything in the content guidelines about this. Does wikipedia have an official line on pedantry and should it have one? --82.71.201.5 (talk) 09:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is a policy on pedantry but decisions are governed by consensus. Also redirects work great in situations like that. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 17:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prawn

This article has been under attack for the past thirty minutes. It seems the user is switching computers to not use up the same IP, since the vandalism says the exact same thing on each edit. I don't know which IP to report, and I am afraid of violating the 3RR rule. Help? -- Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Wanna know my story?}/ _{Share yours with me!} 02:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to request protection at WP:RFPP. And 3RR does not apply to reverting vandalism. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 02:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two questions about Richard Krawiec article:

1) With the link from Yao Ming and the many links outward, is it ok now to take off the orphan template? 2) I'm wondering if I should put a pov template on it, per my comments on the talk page about it sounding like a resume. Thanks, 130.86.14.82 (talk) 00:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Rich (talk) 00:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They're still no articles linking to Richard Krawiec, so no, it wouldn't be appropriate to remove {{orphan}}. Algebraist 00:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- I just reinserted link from Yao Ming article. Rich (talk) 01:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure about the orphan tag, but the article needs some work as far as references are concerned. I have moved what were listed as references to the external links section (because they were not linked to statements in the text) and bulleted all those links. The references will need to be looked at to see which ones can be added "in-line" using the <ref> and </ref> tags. – ukexpat (talk) 00:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for doing that.Rich (talk) 18:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet question

I'm looking into some apparent sock puppet activity by a user who has been suspected of using socks in the past. The current case says: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/XXX (2nd nomination) but I'm wondering where the history of the (1st nomination) is located. Mrshaba (talk) 02:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/XXX without a number. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I figured but it's not working. Mrshaba (talk) 03:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then you may have to say what XXX is if you want help. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That makes sense. XXX Mrshaba (talk) 03:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The creator made it with "(2nd nomination)" in the title and then expressed surprise at that.[1] It sounds like it was an error and there is no other page. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just talked to NJGW who created the page and I think he was surprised because he didn't intend to create the page as a second nomination. Can you do that? If I go and make a page on XXX I figure it will pop up (3rd nomination) because there's an automatic protocol built into the system that keeps track of things. I still don't understand why the system isn't kicking out the first nomination though? Can these histories be toyed with? Mrshaba (talk) 03:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you create the page manually then you can call it anything and I don't think there is an automatic protocol. But it appears from the edit summary of NJGW that the page was created with Twinkle. I don't have Twinkle and don't know how it selects the page name. This is pure speculation but maybe NJGW chose a wrong Twinkle function which creates the page with "(2nd nomination)" without checking whether a 1st nomination exists - or maybe there was a Twinkle error. If you create a new page then I suggest calling it "(3rd)" (omitting "nomination" is recommended), and explaining on the page that there probably is no 1st. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the info on this confusing situation. Mrshaba (talk) 16:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bingham Canyon Mine

I would like to format this article so the "See also" section occurs below the image of the mine in 1910. I have seen this done, but don't recall the code. How do I do this? Thx. --Blechnic (talk) 02:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just move the image up, for example to just before a text paragraph you want displayed next to the image. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done - Simply place {{clear}} where you want a separation (click the link for details). I've done it for you. If you do want an image to be included in the See also section, just move it there. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 03:19, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks both. --Blechnic (talk) 05:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

accidentely deleted some words in crc based framing article.....................what should i do.............?i have no login id........

Resolved

I accidentely deleted some words in crc based framing article.....................what should i do.............?i have no login id........ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.243.100.163 (talk) 09:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you already figured out how to undo your edits. :-) --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 09:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot my password, and I do not receive an email from wiki concerning my password

I have an account in wiki and I typed in my user name correctly, but I forgot my password. Then I click the button at the right bottom corner which indicates that my forgotten password will be sent to my email. But I received no email concerning my password. 92.50.80.247 (talk) 12:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you checked your email spam folder (or whatever it does with unsolicited mail)? Wikipedia emails often end up there. Algebraist 12:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking for a third party

Hi. I'm reasonably new to Wiikipedia and have been editing an article Fire pit because it read like a sales pitch about selling fire pits for the garden. However, I don't know a huge amount about garden-fire-pits, and whilst I've put some information in about fire pits in history, it seems like it's lacking a bit now. Can anyone help me improve the article without it being too short OR an advert for fire pits?

Thanks! Oldandfat (talk) 12:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try using a tag on the page to request help, maybe {{expert}}. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 17:20, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You should sign your comments on Talk:Fire pit#Things. See Help:Talk page. --Teratornis (talk) 19:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If your interest is about garden fire pits, maybe someone at Wikipedia:WikiProject Horticulture and Gardening can help. However, judging from that WikiProject's page, it doesn't look like they are very far along yet (for an example of a mature WikiProject, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics). To search for scholarly sources, you can try {{Google scholar cite}}:

garden fire pit

--Teratornis (talk) 19:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i am sister nancy and i see that my article was deleted or remove

i really want my article to be displayed as it was always there if this is an error i understand but i did not delete it so whodid and why what do i have to do to put it back there the way it was please let me know sister ( muma) nancy. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.119.197.130 (talk) 13:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It still exists, or has been recreated, at Sister Nancy, but note that it has been nominated for speedy deletion. A couple of things to note -- you should not be creating or editing articles about yourself because of your conflict of interest, and also it is not "your" article. – ukexpat (talk) 14:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moving to an already existent page

How do I move LaSalle Bank Theatre's page to Bank of America Theatre's page? The Theatre is under new corporate sponsorship and therefore LaSalle Bank Theatre no longer exists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimberlyhobart (talk • contribs) 15:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MOVE for instructions:

How to Note that on many wikis you have to be logged in, and there may be a set length of time that you will have to have had an account for (often four days).

With the correct page displayed, click on the "Move" tab near the top of the page (in default Monobook skin). You'll be asked for a new name for the page, and given the option to also move the page's talk page. NOTE: Unless you know what you're doing, it's safest to say yes. As of MediaWiki 1.5, the reason for the move can be given, like an edit summary.

Click the move button and the page will be renamed to the new title. The old title will become a redirect page, so any links to the old title will still go to the new page. However, note that double redirects (pages that redirect to the original page), will not automatically follow to the new page, so you will have to refer them manually (as explained at How to fix a double redirect and Checking for double redirects.)

after a successful page move, a page looking like this will be shown: MediaWiki:Movepage-moved;
Open the what-links-here for that page (there may be a shortcut link on the page-moved summary screen to let you do this, but the what-links-here link will in any case be in the toolbox, which is near the bottom of the sidebar unless you've customized your skin away from the default Monobook);
Open all redirect pages that are indented in the list, and make them redirect to the page you moved to (that is, without intermediate step);
If there are more than 50 pages listed on the "what links here" page, don't forget to navigate to all parts of the list using the "next 50" or other links available.

Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 17:16, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It has already been moved to Bank of America Theatre. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PICUM title

When I tried to create a page, a message came up that I cannot use the title PICUM for a page because it is on a blacklist. I don't really understand why, and can I change this? PICUM is a non-governmental organisation based in Brussels and we would like to create a page for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PICUM (talk • contribs) 15:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is the exact name of the page you tried to create? I don't see a problem with the names PICUM or Picum. Are you sure the message was not about a blacklisted external link on the page you tried to create? There are problems with you creating an article about your own organization. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Business (also applies to organizations), Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and Wikipedia:Username policy#Company/group names. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:51, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PICUM is protected, see [2]; Picum is not, [3]. – ukexpat (talk) 15:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I didn't get any message for PICUM on my admin account like I have gotten for other protected titles and I couldn't find any log for PICUM. The problem is apparently that it matches a regexp protection at MediaWiki:Titleblacklist on page names containing "CUM". Some vandals create or move pages with dirty words in the name. I will look into it. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have created a stub at PICUM with my administrator account. Other accounts should be able to edit the page - but it may be deleted soon because I didn't add independent sources. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page has now been deleted. If you want to write an article about PICUM, first construct it in your own sandbox (eg. here - User:PICUM/Sandbox ) and then ask an administrator to create the article with this content on. - tholly ^--Turnip-- 18:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

google images

This is just a suggestion, i think it would be a good idea in the "External Links" to add a link to the google image database for the subject —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.132.122.12 (talk) 16:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like google needs free advertising. Also, see number 9 on this list, which basically states don't add links to search engine results. DaRkAgE7 _[Talk] 17:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes links are added to Wikimedia Commons (here), which is a repository of free content images. Often these images are more topical too, as they have been uploaded by users. To add this type of link, add {{commons|SUBJECT OR TOPIC}}. Just check that related images exist first, by saving the page as a preview, and then following the link. - tholly ^--Turnip-- 17:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changing PNG to SVG in an article

I originally posted this here but was advised to post it again, here. So, here goes:

The above is a favourite hobby of mine on Wikipedia and is usually fairly straightforward (just editing the image link in the article, so long as an SVG exists). However, with this page the PNG seems to be embedded in some template - {{runic}}, I think - but I can't make head nor tail of Template:runic. How do I change the PNG contained within to an SVG? Thanks in advance.

Edit: the PNG in the article is now an SVG but I'm still none the wiser as to who made the change or how they did it. Could someone please explain how to change PNGs in similar pages? It Is Me Here (talk) 17:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The .svg image in the table on the right of the article comes from here, a template created for the article. User:Leolaursen edited this template on 14 July to make the picture a .svg. See this difference for how they did it. To find a template like this, look on the main article page and you will see something like this at at the top: {{EXAPMLE infobox}}. The just type in Template:EXAMPLE infobox to the search box to see the template.

Does this help? - tholly ^--Turnip-- 18:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Email Trouble

Hi, I changed my email address since I registered with wikipedia. The old address was <email removed>, and I don't have access to it anymore. I also forgot my password (yes, I'm a flake), but when the new password is sent it goes to... the old account. Argh. My new address is <email removed>, and my username was meerkat. Any way I can fix this? Thanks, Jeri —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.30.100 (talk) 18:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, you'll have to create a new account. You can redirect your old user pages to your new ones if you want. I've removed your email addresses (posting them here is asking to get spammed). Algebraist 18:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) You could also asked to be renamed after you have made several edits with your new account. I don't know whether it would be accepted, but it could be as "Meerkat" has made less than 20 edits, the most recent in 2004. - tholly ^--Turnip-- 18:21, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marchand de Bien

Dear Wikipedia People.

My user name is Yambry, and a few days ago I wrote a small article relating the role of a 'Marchand de Bien' in France. It looks great on my page..........but that is as far as it has ever gone. When I search under 'Marchand de Bien'.....nothing.

Any ideas?

Many thanks. I look forward to hearing from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yambry (talk • contribs) 19:00, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no "Merchand de Bien" article, feel free to be bold and make one! Be sure to include all your references when creating the article. Also, remember to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). All the best, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 19:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You edited your user page with some content about Marchand de Bien. See: User:Yambry. You seem to be trying to create a new article. You can be bold ("L'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace!") if you like, but be aware that Wikipedia has some rather unintuitive policies and guidelines, and thus new users who create new articles before reading lots of our friendly manuals often end up asking: Why was my article deleted? A gentler way to approach Wikipedia is to start by editing existing articles. You may wish to see:

--Teratornis (talk) 19:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HELP!!!! Images not displaying.

Resolved

Hi, i'm using wikipedia (infact, all wikimedia sites) and cannot get pictures to load.. I'm using Firefox on XP, if that helps.. '''''Andrew Marsden''''' (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ADDITIONAL: Also, it doesn't work on IE either!!!! Andrew Marsden (talk) 19:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC) (again)[reply]

Please make sure you haven't blocked the Wikimedia image server, upload.wikimedia.org. That's really the only reason for you to not be able to view the images. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 19:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, not blocked... i even added it to allow in both... it happened before, but clearing my cache seemed to work, i've done that 15 times now, turned it off, checked connection, checked other websites... no solution was found HELP!!! '''''Andrew Marsden''''' (talk) 19:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure it's not server-side... Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 20:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried clicking on the images directly? Sometimes the page take a while to load and you have to click on the image to see it. —Mizu onna sango15/^Discuss 20:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Look in \WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc. If you have a file named "hosts", open it in notepad. Look at any lines that start with "127.0.0.1" and check the URL after it. These URLs are blocked. If you have a firewall, check to see if the server is blocked. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted... reset the router and all is welll and good in the house of mcmarsden!!!! Thanx for tips.... '''''Andrew Marsden''''' (talk) 16:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC) ~~This Problem has been solved~~[reply]

Lupin's tool

I've been around Wikipedia for a while now, and have had Lupin's tool installed but have never really used it due to errors it caused on my PC. Recently I have tried using the "edit history stats" tool to see who's made the most edits to a certain article, and my name does not appear on the list despite the fact that I have made many edits to the article. I should be about #3 on the list, but I am not shown there. Does anyone know what might be wrong? Thanks, —Mizu onna sango15/^Discuss 20:52, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure that is part of Lupin and not another tool? Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 21:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking the same thing, as this tool doesn't seem to have anything to do with reverting vandalism, but I don't recall installing anything else on my monobook.js file. —Mizu onna sango15/^Discuss 21:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try the Page History Statistics tool. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What I was more looking for was a statistics tool to show which editors have made the most edits to x. The Edit History Stats tool I mentioned serves this purpose, but I can't find my name on the top ten list. —Mizu onna sango15/^Discuss 23:07, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, thank you! Upon trying your suggestion a second time, it works! Cheers, —Mizu onna sango15/^Discuss 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 16

Java classes

I notice that there are a lot features that are not supported in Wikipedia's MediaWiki:Common.js, which occasionally make it difficult to create certain templates. Is it possible to create your own Java classes? ChyranandChloe (talk) 03:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, for security reasons. And do you mean Java or JavaScript? Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 05:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what you mean "for security reasons". Not a single part of Wikipedia runs on Java, so its "nope, for technical reasons". You can write your own JavaScript scripts and include them in your personal monobook.js (or 'theme-of-choice'.js), but that JavaScript will only excute for you and no one else. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 18:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That was my point: If you mean Java, than the MediaWiki is incapable of handling it (it's web-based, and you can't run applets on it. Mediawiki:Common.js is JavaScript, not Java). If you mean JavaScript, it could be, but is disabled due to the fact that well written malicious JavaScript could compromise your account, destroy the wiki within seconds, etc. etc. etc. etc. if it ran automatically for all users. So any JavaScript you write will only work for the users who have that code in their .js file. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 19:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I forgot to specify that it was Java Script. Thanks for the insight, I knew that there was some was security issues involved. What is the proposal process that needs to done before a JS class can be moved into the MediaWiki:Common.js. ChyranandChloe (talk) 02:50, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... 1.) There has to be a good reason 2.)I suppose you could ask at the technical village pump, unless someone here knows... Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 03:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds like the best place, I would agree. On a side note, Java and JavaScript are essentially unrelated, despite the name (you can blame Sun Microsystems for this particular piece of confusing nomenclature!) If only we could persuade everyone to use the "new" name ECMAScript, life would be that much less mixed-up! I presume your proposed additions relate to the Main Page redesign? --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 07:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the main purpose right now is the for the 2008 main page redesign proposal. I also see some potential in adding a few more features to the MediaWiki:Common.js such as: tabs, screen.width detection, more options to the show/hide feature, and so on. In fact, we really don't need to program most of these; just snatch them off the other Wikipedias. I think this is resolved, thanks guys. ChyranandChloe (talk) 02:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Using episode list template

I'm having a bit of trouble with the "Episode list" template that I created (Template:Episode list/All Saints). I have been using it in the transclusion of stuff from All Saints (season 11) to List of All Saints episodes. I want to add an 'Audience' column to the episode table at All Saints (season 11) but I dont want it to show up on the table at List of All Saints episodes (under season 11). I've tried a few things but I cant get it to work. Can someone please help? Davido321 (talk) 05:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it's fixed, now. The column existed on both All Saints (season 11) and List of All Saints episodes, but was only fed data on the former. By adding another parser function, the column will only be displayed on the first page. I encourage you to double check my work, though. – Luna Santin (talk) 07:20, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Navigation templates

Is there a guideline stating that navigation templates should be attached only to articles that are included in the template? --Geronimo20 (talk) 08:36, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

May I restate this: Is it okay to attach a navigation template to an article which is not included in the template, such as the template placed at the bottom of this article. --Geronimo20 (talk) 13:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If no-one here is sure of the answer, where else might I ask? --Geronimo20 (talk) 22:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems very relevant, and even though the article isn't in that template, it is in the identically named WikiProject. I'd say go with common sense over the possibility of illogical rules, but I'd assume the members of that project would be the ones to ask. Someguy1221 (talk) 22:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

credir

what is credit in terms of credit management? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.43.76.146 (talk) 11:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might find what you are looking for in the article about credit (finance). If you cannot find the answer there, click here to post your question at that article's talk page. If that does not solve your problem, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try and answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Algebraist 11:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think an article's talk page is the right place to be asking questions unrelated to the form of the article itself. I think the ref desk is the appropriate place to ask. – ukexpat (talk) 13:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Come to think of it, I agree. Time for a rewrite of {{RD3}}? Algebraist 13:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, simplify it and make the reference desk the first suggestion. - tholly ^--Turnip-- 20:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is it wise for me to make an account?

I've been using this site for a while now, initially for research purposes, but more recently I have begun making the occasional anonymous edit. I was thinking about creating an account, but I don’t really see the benefit of doing so, and now I have read something on user:barneca’s talk page which has kinda put me off making an account. The user says "Although I think I’m a very low-value target for Hivemind-type people (I don’t really do controversy much), I’ve simply been too careless, and left too many clues to my real life identity sprinkled around the internet, and have no desire to risk being put thru what others have been put thru recently." What do they mean "risk being put thru what others have been put thru recently"??? I would like to know what this user means before I think about making an account. Cheers. 79.75.221.97 (talk) 12:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An account at base is more anonymous than editing under your ip address. Ip addresses can be traced to internet service providers and to geologic locations and in some cases to the actual computer being used. An account shields you from this type of tracing by the general public. Of course, if you post a profile and include volunteered personal information, then that can lead to somneone finding out your real identity. I don't know what happened to Barneca, but I can tell you that there are a number of websites dedicated to finding out the real identities of Wikipedia administrators they dislike and smearing them. The quote shows by admission that it was the posting of details and clues about himself/herself that led to whatever vulnerability was exploited. If you don't do that, you won't leave yourself exposed.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This Wikipedia:Why create an account? should give you some more answers ... -- Tinu Cherian - 13:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict)Putting security concerns aside, there are a lot of other benefits to creating an account. An account allows you to create articles, upload images, and move pages. You can also set up a watchlist to track changes to pages you're interested in. See here for more info. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 13:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(EC)Fuhghettaboutit is correct. Creating an account will likely be more private unless you reveal personal information about yourself. Along with that there are numerous other benefits: The ability to carry on protracted conversations, the ability to watchlist pages, and the ability to track your own contributions. After 4 days and 10 edits under the account (both requirements must be satisfied), you will gain access to additional resources such as the ability to move pages if necessary, and after a while, with enough edits you are able to vote in board and committee elections as well as other important things (the edit and time requirements for these vary between individual applications).--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 13:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I don't really think you need to worry about the issues mentioned on Barneca's usertalkpage. The thing is, a select few high-profile users and administrators are harrased by off-wiki projects (like ED, WR, and 4C). The "Hivemind" that she talks about is sort of like an attack site by wikipedia review (which I'm not allowed to link to). Simply creating an account does not put you at risk for such problems, as long as you don't leave your personal information all over the Internet. More than likely you won't have to deal with the kinds of "things" that people are talking about here, as most of those things are experienced by very high-profile users, and most attacks that vandals sometimes make are relatively minor and can be resolved quickly. Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 17:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading a organizations logo image

I would like to add the IAGSDC logo to the IAGSDC page.[[4]] How do I go about getting permission to upload it? Can I send it directly to an administrator?

Thank you. Rtc869 (talk) 14:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Logos are coverd under Fair use policy. Any logged in user can upload images. The direct page to upload logos is [5]. Remember to follow fair use policy-- iDosh! talk? 14:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only autoconfirmed users can upload files. to be autoconfirmed your account must be 4 days old and have made 10 edits. - tholly ^--Turnip-- 20:26, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The OP became autoconfirmed with this very post. Algebraist 20:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So they did, I must have miscounted. - tholly ^--Turnip-- 20:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vascath used in medicine explain

Vascath explain used in medicine —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.229.146 (talk) 16:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you have a question on how to use Wikipedia (what this page is for), or are you looking for the Reference Desk? Or maybe Google Search? --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 16:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Customising a signature

How can i customise the font/colour of my signature? Flaming Ferrari (talk) 19:49, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the subsection "User profile" of your "preferences". Found in the top right corner of your screen. --Cameron * 19:52, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I want "Flaming Ferrari (talk)" in orange, how can i do that?

Flaming Ferrari (talk) Algebraist 20:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ok but i would like it to link both to my userpage and talk page as before. thanks. Flaming Ferrari (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Flaming Ferrari (talk) works. I expect it can be done more prettily though. Algebraist 20:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah who cares about pretty code - long as it works! Thanks very much for your help! Flaming Ferrari (talk) 20:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sacrilege - everyone knows Ferraris should be red! – ukexpat (talk) 20:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do i make a page?

How do i make a page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazazzhole (talk • contribs) 20:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This page should help. – ukexpat (talk) 20:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

templates

I currently run an internal wiki tool for my company and would like to add infobox's to client profiles. I have viewed multiple pages on this matter and tried to use some of the infobox templates already made but none of them seem to work. I'm looking for any insight into this matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.246.107.198 (talk) 22:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You will probably have a better chance of getting an answer the technical section of the Village Pump. – ukexpat (talk) 22:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) That's probably because Wikipedia infoboxes rely on various CSS classes defined in MediaWiki:Common.css. Algebraist 22:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

equipment lists

my question has to do with world war two equipment lists, should these be posted or not? for instance, if you look up a "SCR-584 radar" it stands to reason that there is an scr-1 through scr-583 ect. most of these are radios. each one you could write a page on, some of these sets had a vehicle made just for them. which is a hole nuther list. and of coures each vehicle had a mfgr, which is a hole nuther list. the cross refrenceing would be nice, but?

Brian in denver (talk) 22:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would not assume that each model had been actually fielded. Some may have never gotten off the drawing board, some may have never been developed or the nomenclature system could have changed in midstream. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

most of these lists already exhist on other sites but there "dumb" lists. another words thay dont click to other items, bottom line, I dont want to spent 5,000 houres doing the data entry only to have it deleted, becouse its not an "article"

If there's no more information on each of the models than the fact that they were made during WWII, it would be enough to just link to the other-site lists from some appropriate article. Someguy1221 (talk) 23:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On a side note, there are actually some computer programs (called "bots") owned by some of our users which can take care of laborious tasks like that if it ever comes up. I agree with User:Someguy1221 that there might not be enough information available to get more than a link out of it though. Maybe you could write an article about the series as a whole? Like the Signal Corps Radio, which in fact I see you've already started! :-) Any really notable ones in the series (like the SCR-584) can be mentioned individually and linked, presumably there are only a few such. --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 07:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

well heres an example of a list

http://ww2dodge.com/w/index.php?title=K-list

took me about 6 months to compile this one on another wiki. its for wwII signal corps vehicles, that were given a "K-number"

as you can see, going accross a row, you could give each item a link, truck, 4x4, mfgr, on accross to assos. equipment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brian in denver (talk • contribs) 15:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 17

"Last Updated"

Last Updated By Who?? And When?? For What Purpose?? Is This Service No Long Offer You We Judge For Ourselves????

Bio On Jane Austen, Puerto Ricans History Of Military Service, WWII, & WWI & Korea. Role Models??? AND Identity??? Mind You This In An Very Important Election Year In Forming An Option, In The USA, Etc.

Thanks.

Sam Padro email address removed—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.24.111.38 (talk) 05:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me? I'm sorry, but your question doesn't seem very clear; I'm not sure what you're asking. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, but I think he wants to know the edit history of the pages mentioned. Mr. Padro: Please click the tab marked "history" at the top of any page to see a list of changes made, the user each was made by, and the times at which they were made. Please clarify if this was not your intended question. --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 06:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Watermarked image

Why is an image with a watermark not acceptable? 59.183.26.237 (talk) 10:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you're referring to but, generally, watermarks are used to explicitly call out copyright on the image. Since Wikipedia prefers freely distributed images, and the primary focus of the image should be its subject, watermarks seem contrary to building an encyclopedia. If you have a more specific concern, please feel free to clarify. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 11:07, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Image use policy#User-created images. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 13:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Google

How does an article you write appear on google when the title is typed in?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmadarvill28 (talk • contribs) 10:43, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It will take some time for Google to index the Wikipedia page in their engine - it can be a few hours or it could be days, weeks or never. Wikipedia can't control what Google does (in this regard) and if or when they will index an article. Pedro : Chat 10:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm assuming the article is SNO!zone. I've just done a re-write, as the article was almost deletable on sight as an advert. Please remember this is an encyclopedia not a free web host or advertising site. Pedro : Chat 10:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot access my account

Hello, please please help me, I cannot access my account and I do not know why. I am the "Martin Jee" who made some edits to Oliver Heald's page. I would like to make some more changes and start some new pages which I have been planning, however I can no longer access my account. This is important to me as it took some time to build up the "trusted user status" and I don't want to have to start again!!

Can any one help me to access my account?

Martin

194.60.38.10 (talk) 13:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you forget your password? If so and if you submitted an e-mail address when you registered your account, you should be able to have your password e-mailed to you by following the link on the log-in page. I see from User:Martin Jee that you are a researcher for Mr Heald. That puts you in a conflict of interest, so your edits will be heavily scrutinised. Non-controversial edits should be OK, but anything else should be discussed on the article's talk page first. – ukexpat (talk) 13:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A mother in need!

I am a single mother of four children that has been in court for three years now and got full custody of my children but yet the police will not inforce this order. My son is with his father a man with a history of abuse and I have police inforcement in my order. Why is it that a police officer can look at me in the face and say, "That order means nothing to me? but yet it's just a paper?" Why did I spend so much time for my children safety if the law doesn't protect me? How do I get my son back? A worried mother that only had 2 of her kids at home worring sick of their bother or my son? I was in the hospital all day yesturday because I can't take this stress anymore. Now what happens if something happens to me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.57.152 (talk) 14:01, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 14:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This sounds like a legal issue and Wikipedia does not give legal advice. You should consult your lawyer. – ukexpat (talk) 14:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EFSA

If I digit "EFSA" in the wikipedia search box and then click on "GO", I get the security warning message "Do you want to save this file?". Could you please help me to fix this problem? Thank you in advance. Mttfrn7H6 (talk) 14:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Are you sure that another page is not causing the problem? Doing that should make you end up at European Food Safety Authority. Wikipedia will not attempt to download anything but a file called "index.php", and that is only when you ask for it by appending &action=raw to the URL. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 14:09, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My computer sometimes does that as well, it is very annoying. It seems to think that the page your are opening is a document or other such file and that the website is trying to download it. I don't know what you can do though, other than restarting your computer or quitting the browser and trying again. Harland1 (^t/_c) 14:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have this problem only with explorer and for the English version of the article. Thank you for helping —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mttfrn7H6 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Restoration of Article

Hello,

I mistakenly edited an article "Nova Lehota" and would like to restore the original text while saving my edition as a new article. Can't find how to do it in your FAQs and tutorials. How can I restore the older version of an article if possible? I do not want to loose my editing too, so I want to esteblish/split the new article.

thanks

VetroplachVetroplach (talk) 15:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you edited the article back in March. We can restore the article without your changes, but could you clarify a little more? Why do you want your changes removed? GlassCobra 15:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to make an article about a village Nova Lehota which has been a former German minority inhabitat. However, there has been another village of this name with its own article which I thought to be about mine but with wrong data. I only later realized I ruined someone's article. Therefore I want to restore the original article about the village of the same name and proceed working on my own village's article. I would like to delete all my editing since the very first one to be traced but do not want to loose the actual state of the article which refers to my topic.Thanks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vetroplach (talk • contribs) 15:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the article to a version before you made your edits (and restored some edits made after yours). Previous versions of the article can be found in the history. --Random832 (contribs) 19:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sea Cucumbers

Having read your subject on Sea Cucumbers, could you tell me the collective noun for Sea Cucumbers, if their is one.

Chamberlain —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.8.15.157 (talk) 15:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reference desk is that way. This is for help on using Wikipedia only. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Chirps•Clams•Chowder)} 15:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, well...these two sites say a collection of sea cucumbers is called a pickle, but I have no idea if that's true or not. Unfortunately, I can't find much else in the way of an answer. Try asking at the reference desk; the help desk is supposed to be for questions about the usage of Wikipedia itself. GlassCobra 15:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know Dokdo??

I think Wikipedia don't know about it.

If you don't know about it, you can not talk it.

Dokdo is island of course and it is in the East sea!!

And Dokno is Korean island!!!

Of course japan's sea is wrong!!!!

It is East sea!!!You know~

I'm angry about it!!

You must check it!! And refresh all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you have another opinion, more study... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.70.251.31 (talk) 15:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[[The article on the Sea of Japan notes the alternative names and links to Sea of Japan naming dispute. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And the article Liancourt rocks notes the territorial dispute. --Random832 (contribs) 19:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A dispute which even made it to Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars. It seems there's been a fresh wave of protests from the Koreans recently, which I assume is what prompted this little tirade, to which I respond - please be civil, and remember that when you're passionate about something it's often hard to realise that your own point of view isn't necessarily the neutral point of view. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki markup

What exactly is a {{-}}, and what is it used for?-- Seahamlass 16:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Template:-. It's used to put blank space after images in articles, to prevent text from flowing around the image - I think. – ukexpat (talk) 16:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reference:Excel

I discovered a website that gives a link to an Excel file which I want to reference. I know there is a way of doing this for PDF files, namely {{PDF}}, but I was wondering if there was something similar for an Excel document. If not, how should I go about referencing it. Thanks Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Found out myself - {{XLSlink}}, sorry to bother people. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Text NOT wrapping

Hi there,

I've been trying to edit an item, but instead of wrapping my words, it's just going on and on and on! I've tried looking at the FAQ's, and I've tried to look at other pages, but I can't see what I'm doing wrong! Help me!

206.75.88.9 (talk) 16:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)Roxanne[reply]

If it looks like this line, then don't start a line with a space. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk -  16:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Account creator rights

Hello, I have reached the six account limit while creating account for the requests here. I was wondering how I request account creator rights? Thanks for any help. Artichoker[talk] 17:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Go to WP:PERM. Admiral Norton ^(talk) 17:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I have applied there. Artichoker[talk] 17:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One last question...

Could you lead me to the nifty little gadget that you use to check up on what articles an editor has written about, and the images they have uploaded. Thankyou.-- Seahamlass 17:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since no one else is answering: My favorite is Interiot’s Wannabe Kate. The simplest is [[Special:Contributions/{username}]], for example Special:Contributions/Seahamlass. —teb728 t c 20:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good one to use. Gary King (talk) 07:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I Cannot See Any Photos on Wikipedia Pages

On every Wikipedia page with a photo, all I get is a "place-holder" box. I have no problems on any sites besides Wikipedia. Do I need some kind of special setting or software to be able to view the photos on Wikipedia pages? hammettt--Hammettt (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. The server's just screwed up right now it seems. The images aren't loading for me either. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Chirps•Clams•Chowder)} 18:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, the images are loading perfectly fine for me. Artichoker[talk] 18:14, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Me too. must have been a temporary thing. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Chirps•Clams•Chowder)} 18:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Forgott Password

Hi.

I am User:Goiken and predominantly active on other Wikimediaprojekts and forgott my en:wp-Password. My morer recent activities here i did as different IPs. Using now GWatch i'd need again access to my en:wp account. Unfortunately while registrating i didnt provide an email. Is there any way i can reobtain my account or do i need to create another global one. For a Proof, of ID i could Provide my e-Mail or you can considder, that the Methylmalonic acid I edited in en:wp was also created by goiken in es:wp.--85.180.131.51 (talk) 19:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you're English Wikipedia account is part of your global account, it should have the same password as all your other accounts. If not, it's more complicated (we can't just figure out your password and tell you) Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 19:53, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eventhough it should it doesn't have the same PW for some reason unknown to me. Would it be possible for a high-level-admin to deleate me so that i'll be able to recreate goiken in en:wp and later merge with global goiken?

Can't I be deleated by a special procedure u usually use when fighting vandalism and then be recreated?

Is there a way for anybody to disable The Anti-Autocracking on users so that the Acc can be opened by a brute-force-Bot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.180.131.51 (talk) 20:12, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, the CAPTCHA will stay... I suppose it could be disabled for bots, but we don't discuss things like that here: that's our Village Pump's job... Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 20:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just moved it right there. Thanks in advance for your help.--85.180.131.51 (talk) 20:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any other suggestions?--85.180.131.51 (talk) 19:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Without your password, and if you didn't provide an email address, it's basically "tough" - we have no way of knowing whether you are the original User:Goiken or someone trying to take their account. There is no way whatsoever to disable the capchas - we really do not want it to be possible for accounts to be opened by a brute-force bot; that's why the capchas are there in the first place. Neıl ☄ 10:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

USER page in google search results

How do i get my user page to not list in the search results, under my actual contributed page. I thought the user page was where i was suppose to mock stuff up. I see I apparently got it wrong. how do i remedy? Lrothstein (talk) 20:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, your user page is a place where you can talk about yourself, say what you want about anything, basically anything you want that isn't offensive and follows the rules. To display your user page, you have to make one first. Type in "User:Lrothstein" in the search box, and click "Start the User:Lrothstein page". In the big white box, type whatever you want to display in your user page, and hit "Save page". Now your user page will show up instead of your contributions. Hope that helps. Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 22:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like he/she said, you can basically put almost whatever you want there. However, one thing that must be pointed out is that you may not put any unsourced claims about living persons. NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 22:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE delete my account

I do not need my account anymore. I've done all I can to improve wikipedia.Silversword55 (talk) 21:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You do not need to delete an account to stop participating at Wikipedia; all you have to do is stop editing. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This page gives an overview of how to effectively vanish from Wikipedia. TN‑X-Man 21:57, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This may also help you, Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the {{db-userreq}} template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia. NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 22:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

StarMedia

I am trying to update the info about StarMedia by adding current informacion. Company has changed administration, headquarters, etc. It seems that the original founders wrote this article that I am trying to update. I did not deleted or changed any previous information, I just added current facts, and contact people, but the system keep deleting what I am entering.

Could you please help?

Best Regards Maria —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mb2001starmedia (talk • contribs) 22:22, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any other contributions for you Special:Contributions/Mb2001starmedia are you sure you made them while signed in as this account? Also, are you sure you clicked the button label "Save page" after you had made the edits? NanohaA'sYuri^{Talk, My master} 22:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Message?

I've recently noticed two pages (Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock and Lord Voldemort) with the message "This is the Zodiac speaking. I have recently bean informed about your litle website. You canot ex cape me." Is it possible to remove these? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.225.86.58 (talk) 23:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Just delete the silly text. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Chirps•Clams•Chowder)} 23:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's template vandalism, so it's not always obvious where the text is. The user responsible has been blocked and the vandalism reverted. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 18

Very Bizarre...

I was just browsing around, and when I opened the article on the movie "300," it was overlaid by a huge black panel. It had an English message at the top, claiming to be written by the Zodiac (killer, I assume), and then a paragraph of strange symbols following it. When I refreshed the article, the black panel was gone, and there's no evidence in the article's history page of any edit like the one I saw existing. Is this some type of sick prank? I don't know where to ask about it or who to ask about it, but I'm very unsettled right now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.102.45 (talk) 16:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, it was just template vandalism. I wonder how we can best educate editors on how to spot and fix template vandalism? It seems to cause confusion since it was fairly rare before the recent bunch of fools started up. Education will help it become a non-event, then the fool club can go find something else to do. Preferably something remotely constructive. --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 16:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad to know vandalism like that is common around here. That would have been very disturbing if it was the real thing. Thanks for the feedback. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.102.45 (talk) 17:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to be not-so-glad that vandalism like that is common around here.... -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 20:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When the alternative is a real message from an actual serial killer, vandalism seems pretty harmless in comparison to me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.102.45 (talk) 20:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DELETING-

how do i delete my wikipedia account ?

I'm in love with nick jonas (talk) 00:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can't be done. More answers above. Algebraist 00:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your only edit with this account was posting this question. Why not just abandon it? Dismas|^(talk) 03:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing it's someone who registered an account just to ask this question so the account they want to delete remains anonymous. Gary King (talk) 07:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A Tale of Two References

I'm in a bit of a dispute with another editor. It's over a subway service that has not served Forest Hills on weekends for a few years now due to construction. While one published source (a timetable, dated Winter 2007-2008) states that service does run to Forest Hills on weekends, there is another published source, an advisory (that has been in effect for about a year) stating the exact opposite. Both sources are from the public authority in charge of providing service, but express two completely different things. What I would like to know is:

1. Would this be a situation where one source can cancel out the other or are both to be covered equally?

2. If one is to be cancelled, which one would set the tone for the article?

-Pacific Coast Highway ^{{talk • contribs}} 00:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps cover both equally, or better yet, discuss this on the article's talk page to gain consensus from other editors who are also editing the article. Gary King (talk) 07:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, it's resolved. Thanks. Pacific Coast Highway ^{{talk • contribs}} 02:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moving displaced edit command back to proper spot ?

Hi,

The articles Beryllium Vanadium Zirconium and Tin have a long box on the right that seems to have displaced the edit option for several sections. One can see the [edit]s side by side down the page after the line where the box ends. The other elements seem to have no problem with this. Could someone perhaps fix the four defective pages? This edit command appears to be a hidden one an ordinary editor cannot touch.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gallador (talk • contribs) 02:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you mean, but I believe long infoboxes will do this and I don't know if there has been a way to resolve them. They are fairly common, unfortunately. Gary King (talk) 07:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It can be fixed fairly easily (though sometimes the cure's uglier than the disease). See Wikipedia:How to fix bunched-up edit links. Algebraist 09:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. I see they've already been fixed. Thanks again.Gallador (talk) 13:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a section to a category

Hi,

I wish to add a page to a category which has numerous sections, but only one section is relevant to the category. Is it possible to add the article to the category using the title of the section instead of the title of the article.

An example is the Lee-Enfield article, where I wish to add a particular section to a World War II category. I know you can do this as a link from an article, but what about a category list.

If not, is it possible to show different text in the category listing whilst still categorising the whole article (such as you can do for links)???

Thanks for your help. Glenn Sisson (talk) 02:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is not possible. However, you can use WP:DEFAULTSORT to sort the article with a different key than its title. Gary King (talk) 07:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can create a redirect to the section and add the redirecting page to the category. See Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects. This is only appropriate in some cases. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WXXS FM Formatting Comments Available

24.34.99.161 (talk) 02:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I found a website that discusses the formatting at WXXS. Please read more at This Webpage and you will see things discussed such as the eclectic qualities of the programming content. Somebody mentioned the term "Full Service" but I don't really know what to make of that. Anyway, if anybody has any comment to leave on this please do so.

Do you have a question about editing on Wikipedia? --Teratornis (talk) 12:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What to do?

Hi, what can I do here for editing? I am not sure what I am suppose to do. Rove2 (talk) 04:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and welcome, Rove! Please see Help:Editing, WP:IA, WP:OVERVIEW, and Wikipedia. Thanks, —Mizu onna sango15/^Discuss 04:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Anonymous (talk) 05:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also take a look at WP:YFA. – ukexpat (talk) 13:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marcus Giavanni

Who is this Author?

Why is he not listed on your site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.190.6.139 (talk) 04:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are no "authors" of article here. The users who create the article are not referred to as the "author" of them. If you want to see who created it, click the history tab on the top of your screen. But remember, all users at wikipedia can write articles. -- RyRy (talk) 04:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's what they intended RyRy. Please thoroughly read the comment before replying to avoid confusion.

If you think there should be an article about this person, feel free to create it! Please make sure you have plently of reliable sources, and please review WP:YFA to learn how to create it, although it is better to start by editing exsisting articles first. Alternatively, if you would like it to be created by someone else, post it at Wikipedia:Articles for creation, and it will be created by someone. Hope that helps! —Mizu onna sango15/^Discuss 05:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell from a cursory Google search, he's someone who has had one book published that got reviewed by one CNN affiliate TV (or possibly radio) station, which suggests that he probably doesn't quite pass the notability guideline on biographies.

Yeah I don't think he's notable enough; but if you can find sufficient reliable sources to backup his notability, then feel free. Gary King (talk) 07:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a tool that does this?

I'm trying to figure out if two people who walked into a discussion have an overlapping edit history with a third user. More or less, I want to know if there's a previous relationship between them and why the two are quite so... vicious with the one. Any quick and dirty way to do this? SDY (talk) 08:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a human could solve this better and quicker than a computer could. Gary King (talk) 08:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the most efficient tool would be Wikipedia:Talk page! :-P --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 09:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You could probably construct a query to find their overlapping edits; see WP:EIW#Query. Or you could use {{Google wikipedia}} to search Wikipedia for pages which contain both of their user names (although Google does not find pages in the article Talk: namespace, which might be where they came to blows). If you had told us their user names, we could have tried some searches, and possibly given a real answer. (Ask a vague question, get a correspondingly vague answer.) --Teratornis (talk) 12:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I did the search in question manually already, so this particular case is moot. I'm mostly looking for talk page comments. Incivility rarely makes into the mainspace. I'll give some of these a try though. SDY (talk) 15:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Structure of articles

I have noticed Wikipedia articles have various forms of structure and was wondering what the best layout would be for a biography. Would it be recommended in strict chronological date order throughout the persons life, or broken down into sections - for example on early life, career, TV/radio, personal life, other facts etc. Personally, I prefer the section method as to me it makes more interesting reading, but is this frowned upon by Wikipedia as being too personalised ? Alfshire 09:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't think it answers all your questions, but Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies) gives some information on layouts of biography articles. For examples for sectioning, you could compare some well-written biography articles, and see how they describe things. Biographies at Wikipedia:Featured articles would probably be a good example. -- Natalya 10:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And for general layout guidelines, see WP:LAYOUT. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography for more about biographies. See Category:FA-Class biography articles and Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Recognized content#Featured articles for featured biographies - those are examples of Wikipedia's best work, which you can emulate. When you edit an article to make it comply with some policy or guideline, be informative to other editors by linking to the relevant policy or guideline page in your edit summary; for example: "Changed order of standard sections per WP:LAYOUT." Wikipedia has many editors at every level of expertise, and newer editors may not otherwise understand why you rearranged their work, unless you leave clues in the history. --Teratornis (talk) 11:57, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wiki question

i have recently found sites like puzzlepirates wiki and stuff like that and wondering how to get a personal wiki for myself but no one will tell me how to make my own wiki.

Reply please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Storage239 (talk • contribs) 10:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone will tell you and its name is Google. I took part of your question and typed in in literally word for word in quotes and got quite a few of what looks like good prospects. See here. This search does even better. By the way, for future reference this page is not really for question like yours but is dedicated to questions about using Wikipedia. Future questions belong at the reference desk.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can also read Wikipedia's Personal wiki article, and search the Help desk archive for: personal wiki to read the previous answers to this occasionally-asked question. For a general introduction, see b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. Be aware that "personal wiki" means a wiki that runs on your own computer and (generally) that only you can see. If that's what you want, you can run the MediaWiki software on your computer by using a method such as the one in mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick. --Teratornis (talk) 11:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also see wiki:WikiFarms for a list of websites that host wikis for you. --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 14:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My userpage header

Resolved

Does my user page look broken for anyone else? (The header goes over the text for me)...... Densock .. Talk^{(Dendodge on a public network)} 11:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I mean User:Dendodge - I forgot I was using my sock, the header's at User:Dendodge/header...... Densock .. Talk^{(Dendodge on a public network)} 12:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - the header goes over the categories (but under your status). Looks like a mess! ;-) _GB^T/C 12:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know how to fx it?...... Densock .. Talk^{(Dendodge on a public network)} 12:10, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want, I'll take a look. But at initial thoughts, you're using more templates than a home make-over's stencil book. :) Gazimoff ^Write_Read 12:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm having a play in my sandbox with it...something to do with the positioning of your divs, I suspect..._GB^T/C 12:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah - take out that bit and it looks alright...although the line above "skip to the bottom" has gone a bit weird..._GB^T/C 12:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Easier than that, actually - you hadn't closed off a style tag. _GB^T/C 12:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks!...... Densock .. Talk^{(Dendodge on a public network)} 12:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Boscos Pizza Company

Hi, My name is Paul Morgan I'm the vP of manufacturing at Bosco's Pizza Company. Our company has an article on Wikipedia, under the process information we would like the page and history deleted. The information is confidential and we are not sure how it was posted, all other information is avaiable on our company web site. Can you please delete all information related to our process please.

Sincerely,

Paul Morgan Bosco's Pizza Company —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.83.66.122 (talk) 12:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, there doesn't appear to be a page on Boscos Pizza Company (or Bosco's Pizza Company. Is the page that you have an issue with this one : Bosco Stick? _GB^T/C 12:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed phone number and unsourced info here. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 12:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an admin and so I can't remove the history. I don't have a problem with removing unsourced info but are we obligated to delete the history just because someone claims to be from the company? Zain Ebrahim (talk) 13:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt it - the information was all added by one SPA user in one batch here. Given the POV nature of the edits to the other bits of the content made at the same time, I suspect the person concerned could be linked with the company in any event. _GB^T/C 13:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated it for deletion here, the product isn't notable anyway. Hut 8.5 18:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do I need to do to prove I work for the company and we need the history deleted??

Paul Morgan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.83.66.122 (talk) 18:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the relevant instruction pages would be: Wikipedia:Revision hiding (policy) and Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. I am not familiar with these processes so I cannot tell you anything that is not already on those pages. --Teratornis (talk) 19:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist Bug?

I'm guessing this may be a "known bug" in the Wikipedia software, but I thought I would ask about it.

The article Book of Mormon is on my watchlist and, according to the article history, it was edited today, but it does not show up on the watchlist as having been edited today. Talk:Book of Mormon does appear though.

I don't know the cause of this so I don't know if the list is also missing other articles. Can someone enlighten me?

Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 12:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you certain that you bookmarked BOTH the article and the talk page? That is what I'd check first. -- kainaw ™ 12:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see the most recent edit was by a bot (and the one before that minor); do you have "Hide bot edits" and/or "Hide minor edits" active on your watchlist? I think that would have this effect. I don't think it's possible to watchlist a talkpage but not its article, is it? --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 12:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bingo! The edit that I'm not seeing is a "minor, bot" edit. I did not realize (or I forgot) that by hiding those types of edits, I would not see other edits either, if the minor or bot edit is the most recent. Live and learn.

Putting an article on the watchlist always seems to put the talk page on it also, and vice versa. Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 13:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aligning templates

This box is "float left".

I am creating a bunch of templates for commonly-used tables in the WP:WikiProject Tropical cyclones, and I have a question about them. When the templates are added to an article, sometimes I want the template to be left-aligned and sometimes I want to to be right-aligned. Is there a way to build this functionality into the template? Also, if someone could explain how to control the way in which text wraps around the template table I would be much obliged. Plasticup ^T/C 13:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, so I have figured out that |align="left" or |align="right" will override the template's natural alignment. But I still don't know to to control text wrapping. Sometimes I want the article's text to flow around the template and sometimes I want to break until the bottom of the template. Plasticup ^T/C 13:25, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This box is "clear both".

You can give a style setting of "float: left" to have text wrap around a block, and use "clear: both" to make sure there is a break in the text. I've given examples in this discussion. :-) There's a {{clear}} template that "hard-breaks" after a template too, if that's of any help. --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 13:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do those let me vary the style setting between different instances of the template? For example say I have {{My_Special_Template}} that I want to use in two articles. Can I have one article use the "float" style and another use the "clear" style? Plasticup ^T/C 13:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) You could do something like the below to conditionalise it. This assumes you are using an right parameter, as is the case on your linked example above, and it uses that to get the float direction if wrapping is used. It adds a yes parameter which controls whether to wrap text or to make the sides clear. I didn't test, but it should work. :-)

<div style="{{#ifeq: {{{textwrap|yes}}} | yes | float:{{{align|right}}}; | clear:both; }}">example</div>

--_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 14:13, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose I can just use {{clear}} after the template if I want the hard break. Thanks for the help! Plasticup ^T/C 14:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When does the editing stop.

I have been researching the album "In the West" by Jimi Hendrix to clear up some puzzling discrepencies between various sources. I now have a very clear view on what the answers are and they are in conflict with the current entry on Wikipedia. When I looked at the history of this article I found that at various times the correct information had been entered, and on some occasions explanations regarding the existence of mistakes. This article seems to go back and forth between the correct and incorrect versions and I would like to know how this sort of thing can be resolved. You seem to have rules to deal with it but they obviously don't work.Chuckwallah (talk) 13:13, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean an edit war? If you have information that will clear up the dispute, please post it on the article's talk page. I guess you are talking about the Hendrix in the West article? If you see any editors undoing each other's edits, try asking them to talk to each other; it's the best way to make sure the rules get followed! :-) --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 14:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilinking to Categories

Say I want to show someone this hurricane rainfall templates. If I use the standard [[text]] format I will not be creating a wikilink but rather will be adding the talk page to the category. How do I create a wikilink that will take the reader to the Category? Plasticup ^T/C 13:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just add a colon before the text: [[:Category:Atlantic hurricane rainfall templates]] results in Category:Atlantic hurricane rainfall templates. The same holds true for images. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. Thanks a million. Plasticup ^T/C 13:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Username

I know that when changing usernames, you should always request one. But what if you were unaware of this before and now have two accounts. How do you merge an already existing name with your current name. Thank you, The Uerba (talk) 13:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can't be done, I believe. Algebraist 13:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's some limited ability to "usurp" another account at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations, but if both accounts have lots of edits then I think you're past the limit, sorry. You can put {{FormerAccount}} on the old account's pages and {{User Alternate Acct Name}} on the new one to point out the connection, that's the best I can see. --_{tiny plastic} Grey Knight ⊖ 14:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Usurpation doesn't merge contrib history, it just moves one account out of the way so the other can be renamed as desired. Algebraist 21:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is this?

This might be totally apparent but what do the (+2) or (-568) mean on watchlists? Thanks. DeluxNate (talk) 17:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's the number of bytes added or removed after an edit. Your edit just showed as +197, meaning you added 197 bytes to this page. TN‑X-Man 17:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bosco's Pizza company

I asked earlier today to have the processing information dropped from the Boscos Pizza Company site, thank you as this is confidential information. The history pages still show the process, can you please delete the history as well.

Paul Morgan Boscos Pizza Company —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.83.66.122 (talk) 18:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It will be deleted, don't worry. It takes time to delete pages. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Chirps•Clams•Chowder)} 19:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've busted an infobox

Could somebody look at American Independent Party and tell me what's wrong with the first infobox? I don't have the programmer nature, but they look identical to me save for content. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is the parameter 'party_articletitle', which is set to 'America's Independent Party'. For some reason, the only purpose of this parameter is that the colour of the horizontal lines in the infobox is taken from Template:{{{party_articletitle}}}/meta/color. You need to create {{America's Independent Party/meta/color}} with a colourcode as its sole contents. Algebraist 19:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Punctuation

I'm curious on why Wikipedia uses a hyphen on the title page instead of an en dash (e.g. Main Page - Wikipedia… instead of Main Page – Wikipedia…) as an en dash is the proper form of punctuation for it, also, ellipses such as "..." instead of "…" are frequently used (on the Main Page as well). I'm curious on why this is being Wikipedia uses more or less perfect grammar, if I am wrong about this please tell me so. Also, I have grasped the fact that this doesn't really matter to most of you but, as my talk page says, I am a Grammar Nazi (please reply on my talk page).

On the second, see Wikipedia:ELLIPSES. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this punctuation rather than grammar? – ukexpat (talk) 20:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thoroughly amused by a self-professed "Grammar Nazi" who turned this beautiful sentence, complete with a comma splice: I'm curious on why this is being Wikipedia uses more or less perfect grammar, if I am wrong about this please tell me so. At any rate, the use of the hyphen in the title is deliberate and the WikiMedia software goes out of its way regarding it. If you look at McCain–Feingold bill (with an en dash), you'll note that the title is still shows "McCain-Feingold" (with a hyphen). I believe this to ensure that all browsers more appropriately display the title, rather than "McCain%E2%80%93Feingold", "McCain៛Feingold", or some other garbage. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 20:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interwiki links

This link takes you to the Dutch information desk. How do I make a normal internal Wikilink to point to it? ----Seans Potato Business 19:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like this. Algebraist 19:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which is typed like this: [[nl:Wikipedia:Informatiebalie]] Paragon12321 (talk) 19:59, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or if internal wiki-linking isn't possible (it is in this case), you can use <span class="plainlinks"></span> to make a link look like it's internal (the arrow goes away). Example : This link takes you to the Dutch information desk. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 20:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No Paragon, that creates a standard sidebar interwiki. You need the initial colon. Algebraist 20:16, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flickr

Ok, my question is not directly about using wikipedia but i was wondering whether there is a way to search flickr for images which are free to be uploaded on to wikipedia? thanks. 79.75.226.184 (talk) 20:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, the URL is http://www.flickr.com/creativecommons/ - the "Attribution" and "Attribution-ShareAlike" (top one and bottom one) can be used on Wikipedia; click (see more) to bring up a page that includes a search bar. Note that we would prefer you uploading them to Wikimedia Commons, so all of Wikipedia's sister projects (Wikisource, Wikibooks, WikiQuote, etc.) can use it too. Also note that you'll need an account to upload files. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 20:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problem viewing Hexapoda

When I attempt to view the article Hexapoda, my browser (Mozilla Firefox 3.0.1) freezes (i.e. the Windows Task Manager says it is "Not responding") and I am forced to shut down the browser from there. Other articles work fine, and this has not happened before. Any ideas about what might be wrong? − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 20:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've no idea. It's fine on IE and Opera, and there's no obvious vandalism. Better take it to the village pump. Algebraist 20:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works OK for me in FF 2.0.0.16. – ukexpat (talk) 20:28, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed on FF 3.0.x. Locked me up tighter than a drum. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 20:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me in IE. Can you see the permanent link to the latest version? PrimeHunter (talk) 20:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. That crashed for me too. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 20:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can view it in Firefox not sure which version I have though. BigDunc^Talk 20:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Problem seems to have occured with this edit, where this was added <div style="-moz-column-count:3; column-count:3; font-size:71%">. I've fixed the page to remove the "font-size" attribute. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 20:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've used the 'Report Broken Web Site' option in Firefox to report this to Mozilla as it shouldn't crash Firefox. Rjwilmsi 21:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK Shinmawa, but I don't understand the reason for some of your other changes. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He was editing the old revision. Fixed. Algebraist 21:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that. I had two browsers open (FF and IE) with multiple tabs open trying to find the problem. Looks like I made the fix in the wrong one. Oops. Thanks for the fix, Algebraist. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 21:12, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Well done, by the way. Algebraist 21:13, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great! − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 00:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Popups

How do I get rid of the pictures in my popups? Zain Ebrahim (talk) 21:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be covered in the documentation. Algebraist 21:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I just randomly added "popupimages = false;" and it worked! Zain Ebrahim (talk) 21:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting History

How do you delete search history? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.138.65.201 (talk) 21:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:FAQ/Readers#How do I search Wikipedia?. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gallery

Is there any way to display 8 pics in a row, instead of 4? I can only get the gallery on my user page to do four at a time, leaving a huge gap on the right.-- Seahamlass 23:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, with perrow="8". See Wikipedia:Gallery tag. Note that users have different window sizes. 8 normal size images would require a lot of horizontal scrolling for many people. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

July 19

How old is my account?

OK dumb question but I will darned if I can find the answer. Where do I go to see exactly when I created my WP account? Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 00:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your first edit was on 13th September 2005, according to [6]. DuncanHill (talk) 00:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your account creation is not in your user creation log [7] which hints it's before some split date I don't remember - or it could mean that somebody else created the account on a request. My creation on 4th November 2005 is recorded. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:05, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I could also read my own link which says "This log contains accounts created from September 2005 onward." PrimeHunter (talk) 01:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks folks - I had already found my first edit date, but I am pretty sure I created the account before that, I guess before September 2005. So what happened to records from before that date? – ukexpat (talk) 02:12, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandal threatening suicide

Resolved

Someone should check this out [8]. Remember (talk) 00:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I posted this information to WP:AN/I, and I suggest that any further discussion of this incident take place there. Coppertwig (talk) 01:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The IP has been blocked, and any thing further is being handled on WP:ANI. Thanks for bringing this up. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hacker/spammer attack on a page

Resolved

There has been a hacker/spammer on the page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungary What can be done about it? Can someone please help?! 01:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

It has been fixed. The transcluded template {{Iso2country}} was vandalized. The template has been protected and the IP vandal blocked. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zodiac?

On the Wikipedia page for "Trinity", there is a strange message at the top of the screen. Is this an ad or something of the sort? 72.9.6.17 (talk) 01:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean "This article is about the Christian Trinity. For other uses, see Trinity (disambiguation)."? − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 01:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. There is some form of message that says "This is the Zodiac speaking. I am rather angry at some little boys for cracking my code. However, I do not care, for this is in my blood." –L A X 01:31, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recent template vandalism - doing a server cache-purge should clear it up. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 01:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see. I should have known better. –L A X 01:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ft to m still somewhat broken

The Template:Ft to m is broken. I discovered it at Portal:Chicago/Selected article/70. However, as was discovered last week adding the precision=1 parameter. However, when this is removed the template is not working for multi-dimensional conversions such as {{Ft to m|33|66|42|wiki=yes}} It works in other spaces. What is going on? I imagine this may be causing problems in many places. I have contacted User:Jimp who has been editing {{rnd/b}}. He has not been able to get it cleaned up.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:50, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

remove deceptive external link

Note: the external link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Exorcists that is entitled "Mexicans Confront Satanism with Meeting of Exorcists" is a link to a porn site. Please remove this deceptive link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buhl7filer (talk • contribs) 08:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Umm... no it's not. Trolling>? − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 08:41, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Searching titles?

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Is it possible to search for articles by title? For example, I'd like to find all articles with feminism in the title. I've tried Googling allinurl: en.wikipedia.org/wiki feminism but it misses some articles such as Feminism in modern Japan. Thanks. JCDenton2052 (talk) 08:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I typed allintitle: feminism site:en.wikipedia.org and got 130 results. Not sure if Feminism in modern Japan is in there though. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But I guess it would be because allintitle:feminism in modern japan site:en.wikipedia.org turns just that one result. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is. Thank you. Your google-fu is strong. JCDenton2052 (talk) 11:44, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need to site a reference for this????

I have been asked by musician Gian Pyres to expand his article on Wiki. I recently added his equipment used and wonder what is the proper way to site how this info is fact and not original research? The info is available in the inlay booklets of the various bands he's been in (and also from Gian himself).

Shawn Crapo (talk) 14:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:OR and WP:COI. All claims must be backed up by reliable sources, otherwise it is considered original research (because it can't be verified). Furthermore, you shouldn't really write about people you know, as you can (perhaps accidentally) introduce bias in your writing. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 14:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, are you referring to the inlay booklets on CDs? I don't think they would qualify as reliable sources. Sorry, Zain Ebrahim (talk) 14:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The issues Peter raised to the side, you might find WP:CITE helpful. It contains all manner of templates for citing different types of sources. Also, there is no reason to consider an inlay book an unreliable source, it is a great source for the equipment used by the artist in question. Cheers. L0b0t (talk) 14:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zodiac bomb

I am getting some crazy message that covers the whole page from Zodiac when I attempt to visit certain pages. So far both Jon Corzine and WP:AN are affected. This page is not. What is going on?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:04, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uhm, could you give us some idea of what the message is? -mattbuck (Talk) 15:05, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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