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|Name = '''Fools Dance'''
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|Background = group_or_band
| name = Fools Dance
|Origin = [[Bath]], [[England]]
| image = foolsdance_F1.jpg|
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| caption = Fools Dance as pictured on their 1985 EP (L-R: Pete Gardner, Ron Howe, Gary Biddles, Simon Gallup, Stuart Curran)|
|Genre = [[Punk rock]]<br>[[Progressive rock]]<br>[[New Wave]]|
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| background = group_or_band
|Years_active = [[1983]] &ndash; [[1985]]|
| origin = Horley, Surrey, [[England]]
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|Label(s) = Top Hole<br>Contorsion<br>Lambs To The Slaughter - Prism |
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| Instruments =
|URL = [http://www.foolsdance.de/index.php? Fools Dance website]
| genre = [[Punk rock]], [[gothic rock]], [[New wave music|new wave]]|
|Past_members = [[Simon Gallup]]<br>Stuart Curran<br>[[Matthieu Hartley]]<br>Ian Huller<br>Tot<br>Gary Biddles<br>Ron Howe<br>Pete Gardner<br>[[J.J. Burnel]]|
| years_active = 1983&ndash;1987|
| associated_acts = [[The Stranglers]]<br />[[The Magazine Spies]]<br />[[The Cure]]<br />[[Presence (band)|Presence]]|
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| label = Top Hole<br />Contorsion<br />Lambs to the Slaughter<br />Prism|
| website =
| past_members = Gary Biddles<br />Stuart Curran<br />[[Simon Gallup]]<br />Pete Gardner<br />Ron Howe<br />[[Jean-Jacques Burnel]]<br />Campbell MacKellar<br />[[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]]
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'''Fools Dance''' was a short-lived British rock band formed by [[Simon Gallup]] after he left [[The Cure]] due to a conflict with [[Robert Smith (musician)|Robert Smith]] in 1982.[http://www.planetdis.com/cure/didyouknow.html] Although Fools Dance recorded a fair amount of material and played a fair amount of gigs in their brief existence, they never released a full-length album. The only material they ever released were two [[EP]]s; their self-titled EP and ''They'll Never Know''.


'''Fools Dance''' were an English rock band active from 1983 to 1987, primarily known for their connections to [[The Cure]].<ref name=":0">{{Cite book |last=Price |first=Simon |title=Curepedia: An A-Z of The Cure |publisher=[[William Morrow and Company|William Morrow]] |year=2023 |isbn=978-0-06-306864-3 |location=New York, NY |publication-date=2023 |pages=134–135}}</ref><ref name="Fools Dance Bio">{{cite web|url=http://www.picturesofyou.us/tourprograms/tp-foolsdance.htm|title=Fools Dance Biography|website=Picturesofyou.us|access-date=2021-01-17}}</ref>
The band dissolved shortly after Gallup rejoined The Cure in 1985. However, in 2006, somebody started up a web page for Fools Dance on [[MySpace]][http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=104202474], featuring some rare live recordings that have never been released to the public.


== Lineup I ==
==History==
In 1982, [[Simon Gallup]] was bassist for [[The Cure]], and Gary Biddles was a member of the band's road crew who was occasionally invited to sing onstage. During the tour for the album ''[[Pornography (album)|Pornography]]'', band relations had become contentious, and during a performance in Belgium, Biddles criticized other Cure members [[Robert Smith (musician)|Robert Smith]] and [[Lol Tolhurst]] from the stage. Gallup then left the Cure acrimoniously and took Biddles with him.<ref name=":1">Price, p. 29.</ref>
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*Stuart Curran - [[guitar]]
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*[[Simon Gallup]] - [[Bass guitar|bass guitar]]
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*[[Matthieu Hartley]] - [[Keyboard instrument|keyboards]]
*Ian Huller - [[Singer|vocals]]
*Tot - [[Drum kit|drums]]


Gallup formed a new band in 1983, originally known as '''The Cry''', with singer Ian Fuller, guitarist Stuart Curran (formerly of [[The Magazine Spies]]), drummer [[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] (formerly of [[Roxy Music]]), and keyboardist [[Matthieu Hartley]] (another former member of The Cure).<ref name=":0" /> This band only performed one gig in April 1983, after which all members other than Gallup and Curran quit.<ref name="slicingupeyeballs">{{cite web |date=2013-04-17 |title=Gary Biddles, of Cure spin-offs Fools Dance and Presence, dies |url=http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/04/17/gary-biddles-dies/ |access-date=2021-01-17 |website=slicingupeyeballs.com |quote=I was the original drummer with Cry and that's me drumming at the Rock Garden with Matthieu, Simon and guitarist Stuart Curran, but on this occasion Gary had not yet joined the band and the Singer was Ian Fuller, Gary joined about 2 or 3 months later when the newly named Fools Dance became a 3 piece with just Gary, Simon and Stuart. I later teamed up with Gary on the single They’ll never know. He will be sadly missed. Kindest regards, Tot (Paul Thompson)}}</ref>
==Lineup II ==
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*Gary Biddles - vocals
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*Stuart Curran - guitar
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*Simon Gallup - bass
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*Pete Gardner - drums
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*Ron Howe - [[saxophone]]


The band was reformed under the name '''Fools Dance''' with Biddles on vocals, plus saxophonist Ron Howe, and (after using drum machines for a short period) drummer Pete Gardner.<ref name=":0" /><ref name="ronhowe">{{cite web |date=2003-11-03 |title=Ron Howe Reminisces at The King's Head, Horley |url=http://www.carmenrosa.com/towelflick/foolsdance/ronhowe.htm |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20040825141729/http://www.carmenrosa.com/towelflick/foolsdance/ronhowe.htm |archive-date=25 August 2004 |access-date=2021-01-17 |publisher=carmenrosa.com}}</ref> This lineup found little success in their native England, but developed a strong following in the [[Low Countries]]. At one show they were supported by [[The Cult]]. Frequent travel to Europe left the band little time for recording.<ref name="ronhowe" /><ref name="seattlepi">{{cite news|url=https://www.seattlepi.com/lifestyle/blogcritics/article/Interview-with-Gary-Biddles-Cure-Roadie-and-895544.php#:~:text=For%20those%20that%20don't,%2C%20also%20of%20the%20Cure).|title=Interview with Gary Biddles: Cure Roadie and Fools Dance/Presence Frontman|newspaper=Seattle Post-Intelligencer |date=2011-04-26|access-date=2021-07-18}}</ref> An EP was recorded in 1983 but was not released until 1985, and was re-released several times in following years with minor alterations to the track list.<ref name=":0" />
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== Discography ==
*[[Fools Dance EP]] (1985)
*[[They'll Never Know]] (1987)


In late 1984, Biddles brokered a reconciliation between Gallup and Robert Smith. This resulted in Gallup leaving Fools Dance and rejoining the Cure, where he has remained ever since.<ref name=":1" /> Subsequently, Fools Dance broke up, with Biddles retaining the band name. Ron Howe later made a guest appearance on the Cure album ''[[The Head on the Door]]'' in 1985.<ref name="seattlepi" /><ref>Price, pp. 181-182.</ref>
==Trivia==
*Matthieu Hartley and Gary Biddles have also both been involved with The Cure; Hartley was their original keyboard player and Biddles was a one-time guest singer and [[roadie]].
*When Gary Biddles was permitted to sing "[[Forever (The Cure song)|Forever]]" during the final concert of the ''[[Pornography (album)|Pornography]]'' tour in 1982, he prompted a fight onstage after singing: "Smith is a wanker, Tolhurst is a wanker, only Simon is worth anything in this band! The Cure is dead!"[http://www.planetdis.com/cure/didyouknow.html]
*When Simon Gallup rejoined The Cure as they were recording [[The Head on the Door]], the band tapped Ron Howe to play a saxophone solo on the track "A Night Like This."
*Gary Biddles later formed another band with [[Lol Tolhurst]] called [[Presence (band)|Presence]], which released one full-length album called [[Inside (Presence)|Inside]].


In 1987, Biddles reformed Fools Dance with bassist [[Jean-Jacques Burnel]] from [[The Stranglers]], a returning [[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] on drums, and guitarist Campbell McKellar. This lineup released the single "They'll Never Know" before the band dissolved once again.<ref name=":0" /> Biddles later joined the band [[Presence (band)|Presence]] which had been formed by another former member of the Cure, [[Lol Tolhurst]].<ref>Price, pp. 300-301.</ref> Biddles died in 2013.<ref name=":1" />
== External links ==
*[http://www.foolsdance.de/index.php? Fools Dance website]
*[http://www.picturesofyou.us/tourprograms/tp-foolsdance.htm Tour Program]
*[http://www.gothic.gr/?music%7C274 Fools Dance at Gothic Music]
*[http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=104202474 Fools Dance on MySpace]


==Members==
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;The Cry
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*Stuart Curran – guitar
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*[[Simon Gallup]] – bass
*[[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] – drums
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*[[Matthieu Hartley]] – keyboards
*Ian Fuller – vocals
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;Fools Dance
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*Gary Biddles – vocals
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*Stuart Curran – guitar
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*Simon Gallup – bass
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*Pete Gardner – drums
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*Ron Howe – saxophone
*[[Jean-Jacques Burnel]] – bass
*Campbell MacKellar – guitar
*[[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] – drums
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==Discography==
[[Image:Theyllneverknow_cov.jpg|200px|thumb|Cover of the 1987 single "They'll Never Know"]]

* ''Fools Dance'' (EP, 1985) – first released by Universal Productions, re-released with minor alterations by Top Hole Records in 1986, Contorsion in 1986, and Lambs to the Slaughter Records in 1987
* "They'll Never Know" (single, 1987) – released by Lambs to the Slaughter Records

==References==
{{Reflist}}{{Authority control}}

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[[Category:Musical groups established in 1983]]
[[Category:1983 establishments in England]]

Latest revision as of 05:57, 29 March 2024

Fools Dance
Fools Dance as pictured on their 1985 EP (L-R: Pete Gardner, Ron Howe, Gary Biddles, Simon Gallup, Stuart Curran)
Fools Dance as pictured on their 1985 EP (L-R: Pete Gardner, Ron Howe, Gary Biddles, Simon Gallup, Stuart Curran)
Background information
OriginHorley, Surrey, England
GenresPunk rock, gothic rock, new wave
Years active1983–1987
LabelsTop Hole
Contorsion
Lambs to the Slaughter
Prism
Past membersGary Biddles
Stuart Curran
Simon Gallup
Pete Gardner
Ron Howe
Jean-Jacques Burnel
Campbell MacKellar
Paul Thompson

Fools Dance were an English rock band active from 1983 to 1987, primarily known for their connections to The Cure.[1][2]

History[edit]

In 1982, Simon Gallup was bassist for The Cure, and Gary Biddles was a member of the band's road crew who was occasionally invited to sing onstage. During the tour for the album Pornography, band relations had become contentious, and during a performance in Belgium, Biddles criticized other Cure members Robert Smith and Lol Tolhurst from the stage. Gallup then left the Cure acrimoniously and took Biddles with him.[3]

Gallup formed a new band in 1983, originally known as The Cry, with singer Ian Fuller, guitarist Stuart Curran (formerly of The Magazine Spies), drummer Paul Thompson (formerly of Roxy Music), and keyboardist Matthieu Hartley (another former member of The Cure).[1] This band only performed one gig in April 1983, after which all members other than Gallup and Curran quit.[4]

The band was reformed under the name Fools Dance with Biddles on vocals, plus saxophonist Ron Howe, and (after using drum machines for a short period) drummer Pete Gardner.[1][5] This lineup found little success in their native England, but developed a strong following in the Low Countries. At one show they were supported by The Cult. Frequent travel to Europe left the band little time for recording.[5][6] An EP was recorded in 1983 but was not released until 1985, and was re-released several times in following years with minor alterations to the track list.[1]

In late 1984, Biddles brokered a reconciliation between Gallup and Robert Smith. This resulted in Gallup leaving Fools Dance and rejoining the Cure, where he has remained ever since.[3] Subsequently, Fools Dance broke up, with Biddles retaining the band name. Ron Howe later made a guest appearance on the Cure album The Head on the Door in 1985.[6][7]

In 1987, Biddles reformed Fools Dance with bassist Jean-Jacques Burnel from The Stranglers, a returning Paul Thompson on drums, and guitarist Campbell McKellar. This lineup released the single "They'll Never Know" before the band dissolved once again.[1] Biddles later joined the band Presence which had been formed by another former member of the Cure, Lol Tolhurst.[8] Biddles died in 2013.[3]

Members[edit]

Discography[edit]

Cover of the 1987 single "They'll Never Know"
  • Fools Dance (EP, 1985) – first released by Universal Productions, re-released with minor alterations by Top Hole Records in 1986, Contorsion in 1986, and Lambs to the Slaughter Records in 1987
  • "They'll Never Know" (single, 1987) – released by Lambs to the Slaughter Records

References[edit]

  1. ^ a b c d e Price, Simon (2023). Curepedia: An A-Z of The Cure. New York, NY: William Morrow. pp. 134–135. ISBN 978-0-06-306864-3.
  2. ^ "Fools Dance Biography". Picturesofyou.us. Retrieved 17 January 2021.
  3. ^ a b c Price, p. 29.
  4. ^ "Gary Biddles, of Cure spin-offs Fools Dance and Presence, dies". slicingupeyeballs.com. 17 April 2013. Retrieved 17 January 2021. I was the original drummer with Cry and that's me drumming at the Rock Garden with Matthieu, Simon and guitarist Stuart Curran, but on this occasion Gary had not yet joined the band and the Singer was Ian Fuller, Gary joined about 2 or 3 months later when the newly named Fools Dance became a 3 piece with just Gary, Simon and Stuart. I later teamed up with Gary on the single They'll never know. He will be sadly missed. Kindest regards, Tot (Paul Thompson)
  5. ^ a b "Ron Howe Reminisces at The King's Head, Horley". carmenrosa.com. 3 November 2003. Archived from the original on 25 August 2004. Retrieved 17 January 2021.
  6. ^ a b "Interview with Gary Biddles: Cure Roadie and Fools Dance/Presence Frontman". Seattle Post-Intelligencer. 26 April 2011. Retrieved 18 July 2021.
  7. ^ Price, pp. 181-182.
  8. ^ Price, pp. 300-301.
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