Wikipedia:Requested moves

Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

• Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
• Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
• A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
• Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

• Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
• Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
• Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
• Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
• Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
• Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
• Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.

Undiscussed moves

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

• No article exists at the new target title;
• There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
• It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required. If you object to a proposal listed here, please relist it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

• WYSK-FM → WWVB-FM — Page WWVB-FM was simply created and it's former location, WYSK-FM, was redirected. This, of course, was not a standard page move. The page history for WYSK-FM remains. If the histories could be "merged" (for lack of a better term) correctly is the only thing necessary here. Thanks. — NeutralHomer ^T:C 18:13, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete and contested proposals

With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here. If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below.

• M. J. Cole → MJ Cole — All music by the artist was released using the form "MJ Cole" (e.g. the album Sincere) — robwingfield ^«T•C» 00:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Is this valid? I thought that the rule is to write names in normal format and not in unusual formats chosen for advertizing. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:11, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Religion in ancient Rome → Roman polytheism —(Discuss)— Roman polytheism is more accurate and not overly generic —71.105.241.177 (talk) 17:51, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

• Tarja Turunen → Tarja — The singer Tarja Turunen refers to herself as Tarja. Tarja is her universally recognized stage name (see her logo, which says only Tarja, entry on musicbrainz, which lists her albums under name "Tarja"). The only obstacle to move is the redirect page with two edits. — Monk (talk) 20:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Is she much more noteworthy than the other meanings listed under Tarja (disambiguation)? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Are there any cases of WP articles using only a very common first name as the article name? There are thousands of people called "Tarja" in Finland. The only way i could imagine accepting this RM is a move to Tarja (singer). --Espoo (talk) 14:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
    • I don't know how common this name is, but she uses only her first name as address, and most non-Finnish people recognize "Tarja" as being only her first name. As I see, the move is contested, so I have created place for discussion at Talk:Tarja Turunen page. You're welcome there. --Monk (talk) 21:34, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Sudden Ionospheric Disturbance to Sudden ionospheric disturbance, to reflect capitalisation in the article text itself. I am fairly certain that I am responsible for it being at the wrong title, but I am not sure how, and I know I can't do anything about it. Jdcooper (talk) 22:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • If this page is about a particular type of event in the ionosphere, rather than all sorts of sudden ionospheric disturbance, leave the name as capitals? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
    • The beginning uses "a sudden ionospheric disturbance" and shows why this should not be capitalised. It never is in carefully edited texts. --Espoo (talk) 09:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Random access memory → Random Access Memory — Capitalization. RAM, the abbreviation of "Random Access Memory" remains capitalized at all times. — CZMQFRG (talk) 18:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Google search found many uses with all lowercase. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • It is never capitalised in carefully edited texts nor in dictionaries (see here, but most computer experts are not experts on spelling and many are confused by the capitals in the acronym. There is only one Internet (that spans the globe), but not only one RAM or kind of RAM, which means it's a common noun, not a proper noun. --Espoo (talk) 09:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Republic of Lakotah → Lakotah — Supporters of the state have split into two factions; "Republic of Lakotah" refers to only one faction. The other calls itself "Lakotah Oyate". "Lakotah" is currently a redirect to "Lakota", which is a DAB. —Stlemur (talk) 14:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Lakotah Oyate was a redirect to Lakota: I have redirected it to Republic of Lakotah. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 19:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Comment': I created Lakotah Oyate in anticipation of the move being approved

• 14th Street Bridge (Potomac River) → 14th Street Bridge — Disambiguation not needed; target already redirects. — AjaxSmack 04:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • There are other 14th Street Bridges like the one in Atlanta. There are others. Is there a primary use here? Vegaswikian (talk) 08:00, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Yes. This bridge has a substantial article and 14th Street Bridge redirects to it. No other 14th Street Bridges have a Wikipedia article or are currently mentioned at the relevant dab page (i.e., 14th Street). If this changes in the future, the article can be moved back but Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. — AjaxSmack 18:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
  • 14th Street Bridge were redirected to 14th Street, then you can just add dab entries there. So I say, keep the article where it is, and retarget the redirect to the dab. 132.205.44.5 (talk) 22:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
    • Why? There's nothing to disambiguate. There's only one 14th Street Bridge of Wikinotability. — AjaxSmack 03:42, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• MVK ZRt. → MVK Zrt. —(Discuss)— When I created the page, the company was officially called MVK ZRt. which was grammatically incorrect but since it was registered by this name, I couldn't change it. Now it was changed to the grammatically correct version and it would be good to rename the article. (I couldn't do it because there is a redirect.) —– Alensha ^talk 14:32, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
• Comparison of high definition optical disc formats → Comparison of HD DVD and Blu-ray —(Discuss)— While creation of a broader article is presumably desirable, there are 1½ or 2 more formats mentioned but not compared. Reserve this title for the broader article. —Jerzy•t 05:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• Du’a Khalil Aswad → 2007 stoning of Du'a Kahil Aswad —(Discuss)— Article is not a biographical article about Aswad herself, but is about the circumstances surrounding her death. —— pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 20:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• List of Metalocalypse characters → Characters in Metalocalypse —(Discuss)— "List" is inaccurate for this article as it is for the most part a collection of stubs or short articles, not a simple listing of characters. Additionally, the article was moved to the existing name from the suggested name back in November with no discussion. —Y|yukichigai (_ramble argue ^check) 22:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• Hirohito → Emperor Shōwa —(Discuss)— The move proposal has been initiated as a RFC, just notifying here. --Francis Schonken (talk) 09:35, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• Wings (band) → Paul McCartney & Wings —(Discuss)— I always knew "Wings" as "Paul McCartney & Wings", and I thought that all of their songs were officially credited to "Paul McCartney & Wings", and not just "Wings", except for some early songs. I also believe that if you guys oppose to this, then we should at least move the page to "Wings", because it's only a redirect page to "Wing (disambiguation)". We already have the disambiguation template at the top of this page, so then if anyone types in "Wings" on accident, then they can go directly to the disambiguation page listed at the top of the page. —— Cuyler91093 - Contributions 19:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• Actually the majority of their albums were credited to just Wings. Bassically it went from Wings to Paul McCartney & Wings and back to Wings again. -Djsasso (talk) 21:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• Leeds-Bradford composite line → Leeds-Bradford Lines —(Discuss)— Current title is nonsensical —90.203.45.168 (talk) 20:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Other proposals

January 9, 2008

• Magna Entertainment Corporation → Magna Entertainment Corp. —(Discuss)— relisting to allow discussion —Andrewa (talk) 23:11, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Quintero, Valparaíso → Quintero —(Discuss)— To revert an unilateral page move without prior discussion. —Jespinos (talk) 18:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• The Grand Hotel → Grand Hotel (Taipei City) —(Discuss)— Request to move this article back to the title it had until April 2007. I wish to move this page back to its previous title Grand Hotel (Taipei City) because The Grand Hotel should lead to the disambiguation page for Grand Hotel, which has a large number of meanings. It is not appropriate for one hotel in the world to have an article at this widely-used title. —PamD (talk) 16:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC) PamD (talk) 16:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• In My Wildest Dreams (Kenny Chesney album) → In My Wildest Dreams —(Discuss)— The album is the only article using this title, so it should be at the plain title, which is currently an unnecessary disambiguation page. —ShelfSkewed Talk 15:57, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• In My Room (song) → In My Room —(Discuss)— The song is plainly the primary use of the title. The only other article using the title is a sitcom episode named for the song. In My Room is currently a disambiguation page, and an unnecessary one, since two items can be handled with a hatnote. —ShelfSkewed Talk 06:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• West Los Angeles (region) → The Westside (region of Los Angeles metropolitan area) —(Discuss)— It is confusing to have two articles with almost the same name — one for a district of the city of L.A. and the other for a group of communities, including Culver City, Beverly Hills and Santa Monica, which are not part of L.A. at all. What's more, most people refer to the overall area as "The Westside" and only use "West L.A." for a small part of it around the old district of Sawtelle. —GeorgeLouis (talk) 06:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Washington tree → Washington Tree —(Discuss)— Both external links and the intro to this article use capital "T." —LeSnail (talk) 02:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

• Dr. Elizabeth Duke → Elizabeth Duke —(Discuss)— The current biography is not named according to the MOS. The preferred name is a redirect to a retailer due to its use as a subsidiary brand. Propose moving the bio over the redirect and adding a hatlink to the corporate article. —Serpent's Choice (talk) 15:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

January 8, 2008

• Wishful thinking (psychology) → Wishful thinking —(Discuss)— This was the old, consensus-supported name for this article, before it was unilaterally moved on December 25. The Manual of Style states that when there is a primary topic for an ambiguous term, the article should simply have the name of that topic, without any need for disambiguation brackets. —Terraxos (talk) 16:46, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Kit (football) → Kit (Association Football) - The move would be in-line with the recent moving of the page Football (soccer) to Association Football--Lucy-marie (talk) 12:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Formation (football) → Formation (Association Football) - The move would be in-line with the recent moving of the page Football (soccer) to Association Football.--Lucy-marie (talk) 11:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

  "(association football)" should be used instead of "(Association Football)" for both of the above, though I'm not sure whether a move is even necessary in either case. - MTC (talk) 14:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• The MIDI 1.0 Protocol → MIDI 1.0 —(Discuss)— The current title goes against Wikipedia naming conventions, since it is an article on a technical specification and not a proper title. An alternative to MIDI 1.0 would be MIDI 1.0 protocol (note capitalization and lack of definite article). — KieferSkunk (talk) — 06:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• John Glover Roberts, Jr. → ? —(Discuss)— I have no opinion of this matter. The only opinion that I hold is using Roberts' full name with the junior status and his middle name is a textbook violation of WP:NC(CN). I've never ever heard this name before. Newspapers and such always call him "John Roberts" and back before the Chief Justice time this article was titled John G. Roberts to disambiguate; then it was changed back to John Roberts with a (disambiguation) page for other Roberts. So. I'm proposing John Roberts (judge), John G. Roberts, or back to the old John Roberts. You decide! —hbdragon88 (talk) 03:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

• Talk:Allen "Farina" Hoskins -- Moving a block of Our Gang child actors to new namespaces to remove the nicknames from the titles (perhaps to match George McFarland and Carl Switzer?). While this is a more or less uncontroversial move, Oanabay04 (talk · contribs) attempted cut and paste moves. A moderator is now needed to move these pages and preserve the histories of each. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 03:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Allen "Farina" Hoskins → Allen Hoskins
  • Darwood "Waldo" Kaye → Darwood Kaye
  • Kendall "Breezy Brisbane" McComas → Kendall McComas
  • Norman "Chubby" Chaney → Norman Chaney
  • Bobby "Wheezer" Hutchins → Bobby Hutchins
  • Billie "Buckwheat" Thomas → Billie Thomas

• • Eugene "Porky" Lee may need to stay where it is, since there's another American child actor named Eugene Lee, so any other form of disambiguation would be inaccurate or strange (Eugene Lee (Our Gang)?). Matthew "Stymie" Beard was also among these. It was moved to Matthew Beard (child actor). Beard got a fair amount of work as an adult actor, and there is another child (well, teen) actor named Matthew Beard from the {[United Kingdom]], so Matthew Beard (American actor) and Matthew Beard (British actor) seemed to satisfy disambiguation requirements. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 03:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

January 7, 2008

• Birmingham College of Food, Tourism and Creative Studies → University College Birmingham —(Discuss)— According to the college's website [1] the college was renamed University College Birmingham with effect from 7 January 2008. —JimmyGuano (talk) 23:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• Home Depot → The Home Depot —(Discuss)— Although, I understand the reasoning on the name change to simply "Home Depot", overall, it doesn't make sense. The company was founded in the US, and it's official US name is "The Home Depot". I realize it's generally accepted that no one actually refers to it as "The Home Depot", however it appears to be overwhelmingly used in an official capacity as shown above by Barek. Yes, this isn't "American Wikipedia", but we're talking about a company whose history comes from the US. As a side note, the lack of consistency of use throughout the article is bad. It looks ridiculous that the article title and the opening line are also different (e.g. "The Home Depot (NYSE: HD) is an American retailer..."). —Jauerback (talk) 16:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• Bombing of Dresden in World War II → Bombing of Dresden —(Discuss)— The proposed title is iconic, self-explanatory, to the point. —SlimVirgin ^{(talk)(contribs)} 13:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• Origins of Christianity → History of early Christianity —(Discuss)— Matches the Christianity/History of Christianity pattern. Also allows the article to move beyond "origins" and discuss events up to the Council of Nicaea. —Richard (talk) 08:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• In Cold Blood (book) → In Cold Blood —(Discuss)— In Cold Blood currently redirects to In Cold Blood (book). If the book is considered the primary use of the title, it is wrong for the plain title to redirect to the title with the parenthetic clarifier. —ShelfSkewed Talk 04:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

• Sea-sickness → Seasickness —(Discuss)— The article itself, the external link in the article, dictionary.com and a general Google search all support the spelling "seasickness" over "sea-sickness." —Propaniac (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

January 6, 2008

• Mezase!! Tsuri Master → Fishing Master —(Discuss)— Official English title, which can be seen from the picture of the game cover. —Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 17:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• Malaysian Super League → Malaysia Super League —(Discuss)— This is the official name being used in major English newspaper in Malaysia and Football Association Malaysia - Robert Siow (talk) 13:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• Persecution of early Christians by the Romans → Persecution of early Christians in the Roman Empire —(Discuss)— Maintain uniformity with sister article, expand to include similar orphaned content from parent, and avoid POV implications —CheshireKatz (talk) 09:22, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

• Livestock guarding dog → Livestock guardian dog —(Discuss)— The requested name is vastly preferred by the available source material and connected organizations such as the "Livestock Guardian Dog Association" —VanTucky ^talk 21:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Relisting to gather more input. -GTBacchus^(talk) 02:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

January 5, 2008

• Maria II of Hungary → Mary of Hungary —(Discuss)— There is only one Queen Mary of Hungary. Mary/Maria II does not exist. —Michael Sanders 23:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Federal Atomic Energy Agency → Rosatom —(Discuss)— The legal status and official name of this entity have changed. —Beagel (talk) 17:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC) Beagel (talk) 17:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu → Emeka Ojukwu —(Discuss)— Best known by this name, as set out in lead sentence. —Snocrates 09:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• FC Krylya Sovetov Samara → FC Krylia Sovetov Samara —(Discuss)— common English name —BanRay 00:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

January 4, 2008

• Voluntary caregiver → carer —(Discuss)— Carer is the term used and chosen by carers themselves and is used in national and international carers organisations e.g. 'Carers UK' 'Eurocarers'. Carers have a right to call themselves the name they prefer. Voluntary caregiver is a serious misnomer, as many unpaid carers became so on an involuntary basis due to the illness or disability of a close relative, not by choice. Voluntary caregiver is a clumsy modern coinage. Carer has the benefit of being simple clear english. The word 'carer' is used in legislation. The word carer goes back to at least the sixteenth century. It is accepted by US dictionaries such as Encarta® World English Dictionary [North American Edition]. Its' use reduces confusion as in the US a number of terms are in regular use including caregiver, caretaker, carer etc. —Excalibur (talk) 09:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed (2024 May 18 or older).

• Gneisenau class battlecruiser → Scharnhorst class battleship —(Discuss)— Scharnhorst is the correct name for the class and the ships were classified as battleships. —The Land (talk) 21:06, 3 January 2008 (UTC)}

• Iaşi-Chişinău Offensive → Iassy-Kishinev Operation —(Discuss)— Current name is not used at all apart from Wikipedia; suggested name is standard historians' usage. WP should not reinvent names —Buckshot06 (talk) 07:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• Telesat_Canada → Telesat —(Discuss)— Telesat Canada and Loral Skynet have merged; the new entity is to be called Telesat. —HalifaxRage (talk) 00:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

• Neo-Nazism in Croatia → Neo-Ustashism in Croatia —(Discuss)— There are few if any real examples of Neo-Nazism in Croatia. Far more active in Croatia is the use of Ustasha imagery, songs, etc. Declaring the two movements as equivalent is POV. —Thewanderer (talk) 16:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• IIHF World Ranking → 2007 IIHF World Ranking —(Discuss)— This article is about the 2007 ranking, not rankings in general. —70.55.85.211 (talk) 05:18, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• Football Club International Turku → FC Inter Turku —(Discuss)— common name —BanRay 00:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• List of professional athletes convicted of crimes → List of professional sportspeople convicted of crimes —(Discuss)— Requesting move as sportspeople are more of a wider term and it would be more easier for others to add other people from other non-athletic sport in —Willirennen (talk) 18:41, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

• Sparta Prague → AC Sparta Praha —(Discuss)— Since the first Requested Move was completed, the naming conventions for sports teams have changed. The conventions state that, where a club's website has an English language section, the name used on said website should be used, provided that that name has been adopted at least by a significant section of the English-language media (as determined by number of hits on Google News) and it is recognisable and it is not easily confused with other clubs' names. Sparta Praha's English language website is located at http://www.sparta.cz/en/, and lists the club's name as "AC Sparta Praha". This is not very different from "Sparta Prague", which most people would recognise, and the name is not easily confused with other clubs' names as it is differentiated from all other clubs called "Sparta" by having the name of their home city in the title. Furthermore, there are no other clubs in Prague called Sparta. Finally, although "Sparta Prague" is still the predominant name used in the media (88 GNhits to 12 GNhits for "Sparta Praha"), "Sparta Praha" has been adopted by such websites as Goal.com and UEFA.com, as well as being used in World Soccer Magazine. —– PeeJay 18:28, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

• List of municipalities in Wallonia → List of municipalities of the Walloon Region —(Discuss)— More correct name. Wallonia and Walloon Region are two different things, much like Flanders and Flemish Region, but there is some walloon POV pushing here —Bradipus (talk) 12:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

  Wallonia is the shorter, more common, best known, popular and historical name for the Walloon Region. See talk page for sources. Stephane.dohet (talk) 14:17, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

  Incorrect statement by a specialist of Walloon POV pushing and of WP:POINT (see here). Bradipus (talk) 21:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

  Take it to the talk page, and comment on the content, not the contributor. This page is not a platform for name-calling. -GTBacchus^(talk) 00:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

• Glossary of Messianic Judaism terms → List of Christian and Jewish terms —(Discuss)— The current title (Glossary of Messianic Judaism terms) was put on it as a personal attack, and should not be left as it is. See this diff, and the comment "moved Glossary of Lisa's terms to Glossary of Messianic Judaism terms over redirect: It's enough. In this case, Messianic Judaism = Lisa." —LisaLiel (talk) 20:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

• Glossary of Christian, Jewish, and Messianic terms → List of Christian and Jewish terms —(Discuss)— The recent AfD noted the OR and POV involved in this article. An admin has directed us to comply with that ruling by changing the article from a glossary to a list. —LisaLiel (talk) 02:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC) -LisaLiel (talk) 02:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

• Move as per nom. It needs to be moved to a list, and articles linked summarized as per WP:SUMMARY. Otherwise this is a POV fork and a violation of WP:NOR as it stands. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 02:53, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

• 
  Did the Admin. advise you to ignore proceedure for contested moves , ignore aquiring a consenses on the articles talk page from all involved ?? ........ for some reason I thought all the rules and guides that are written about Wiki. proceedures were meant to be followed by taking appropriate steps , not to simply make your own rules and blaze new trails ........ Pilotwingz (talk) 04:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
• A new AfD has been started see here. Keith D (talk) 12:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• The above Requested Moves for the glossary are moot, I believe. Check the final disposition of the AfD, but the article is now split into two and the original is a dab only. thanks. HG | Talk 05:04, 8 January 2008 (UTC)