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Welcome to my talk page!

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Something regarding my Photos? You're welcome to look/comment at my Photo Gallery's talk page.

Don Clark

I've just added some more info, clearing up the issue of his family/business connection. MisfitToys 21:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:09-02-06-OriginalWaltons.jpg

Could I upload your image to the Wikimedia Commons?
Best regards, Yuval Y • Chat • 20:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've uploaded your image and it has almost the same text as you wrote here. Yuval Y • Chat • 19:31, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lil Tokyo images

Good work! falsedef 07:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Editor review request

Hello, I noticed you've participated in RfAs, and I'm trying to get some feedback on "my Editor Review" (which is sort of like a pre-RfA/overall performance opinion) from admins/editors with experience. I wouldn't normally solicit, but it appears Editor Review doesn't get nearly the attention RfA does (and understandably so). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading. --Bobak 06:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your answers to the questions are wordy but they don't actually say very much. Can you please provide diffs to examples of conflict and how you resolved it and pick out what you think are your best contributions to Wikipedia? I can start to form an opinion when I have some evidence to start my research. (aeropagitica) 13:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editor review

Sure, I'll check your editor review right away. Lately there has been a really huge number of editors requesting reviews, that's why they're not getting the amount of feedback they were supposed to. Regards.--Húsönd 20:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Compton

Very nice photos! Postoak 02:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Long Beach, California

I think that it is great that you are adding historic photos to many Wikipedia articles. I do, however, have a comment about a specific photo (Image:LongBeach-oilfield-1920.jpg) which you added to the Long Beach, California article. I recognized the photo from looking at the LAPL website almost two years ago. According to the description page at the LA Public Library, it specifically says "date unknown" and "Date ca. 1920; 1930s." Since oil was discovered in the area on 25 June 1921, it can't be from 1920, as you wrote in the description. That also leaves only a 18 month window for the cutoff date of 1 January 1923 for the public domain tag that you used, while the photo might be from late 1922 through possibly 1927-8.

Also, I have a book on Signal Hill history. It turns out that photo is actually from the Cresent Heights area of Signal Hill. The book has a much crisper and cleaner version of the photo than what is on the LAPL website, so I may try to look for the same photo on the Library of Congress website.. ^Blank ^Verse 10:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When I first started uploading a few images to the Wikipedia, I'd seen so many abuses of fair use that I decided that I wouldn't use that as a justification for any of my image uploads except for logos. Since then the Wikipedia has greatly tighted up its Wikipedia:Fair Use policy, mostly for the same reason.

For the Long Beach oil field photo, I think that it shouldn't be too hard to find a pre-1923 replacement, although probably not as densely populated with oil derricks, nor as dramatic with the oil gusher.

[I've seen a nighttime photo of an oil rig fire (I think it was at the local McDonald's which has a bunch of old Signal Hill photos on the walls} that'd I'd like to find and get a print of—both the LAPL and Library of Congress will make prints of their photos.]

The problems that I found with many of the descriptions on the LAPL website for the photos that I was most interested in for use on the Wikipedia is one of the reasons that I decided that the Library of Congress website was a better choice. For example, look at the description of Image:Signal Hill.jpg from the LOC website. The copyright is May 1, 1923. However, it's usable on the Wikipedia because for copyright up until I think the 70s, the copyright had to be renewed after a certain number of years (25 years?). The LOC description says that the copyright for that photo was not renewed, so it is in the public domain.

BTW: You may be interested in this article: LA Times: A site worth 70 million words: If a picture is worth a thousand, that's the value of the 70,000 historical images on the L.A. library's website. Also, it looks like the LA Times also goes data-mining at the LAPL (see this webpage). ^Blank ^Verse 05:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

One section I thought was very interesting at the LOC was their collection of Panorama photos. When I first found them, I couldn't see any easy way to use them except doing a crop of the photo like I did for the one I used in the Signal Hill article. Recently I've seen seen a few panorama photos that have been put into a scrollable box, which makes the whole photo usable in a Wikipedia article. See Santa Catalina Island, California for one example. I also uploaded a few images from their North Africa collection because I know that articles on African topics have even fewer photos than North American articles. ^Blank ^Verse 06:05, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

PS: I don't know if you have it on your watchlist, but I updated the description for Image:LongBeach-oilfield-1920.jpg. (Another problem with the LAPL website is that although you can get a permanent link for the image that you use, I haven't figured out a way to get a permanent link to the image's description.)

Awesome Photo!

Hey buddy,

I stumbled across this photo while reading the article on the USC Trojans, and I must say I am quite impressed. Good job! —Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 13:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Do you go to USC? If so, fight on! —Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 13:30, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Thanks for the compliment. Yes, I graduated from USC in 2000 with a bachelors in International Relations (and the U. of Minnesota in '05 with a JD). There are small but determined number of us Trojan Family Wikipedians. --Bobak 17:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's awesome dude. I'm also pursuing a major in International Relations (with a minor in Spanish). We'll see where it takes me, although honestly sometimes I wonder if the B.A. that says USC on it is more important than the major. ;) Congrats on the J.D.! —Lantoka ^{( talk | contrib)} 21:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know?

On 7 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Naftalan, Azerbaijan, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 15:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats, Bobak. You did an outstanding job, as usual. Grandmaster 17:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image:PeteCarroll-USC-mediaguidephoto06.gif

Hey Bobak . There is a lively debate about use of promo photos on wikipedia. My name is Jeff and I Do not support the interpretation of WP:FU as implemented by user's like User:Chowbok. They believe that Wikipedia should be free of all promotional photos that are "replaceable with an equivalent" (i.e. an amateur photo from flickr). Their rationale is being debated in many places, and take it a step further believing that all promo photos should be deleted and let someone else deal with finding and uploading a free alternative.

And many other places I've no doubt missed.

I and many others who support use of fair use promotional photos have not been successful in changing the actions of Chowbok and rampant deletion and changing of many hundred's of useful images from Wikipedia articles continues. One good example is the Jennifer Granholm article which had a great promo photo replaced by a terrible photo. I seek to raise the profile of this issue through challenging promotional photos on high profile article's like this one. I'm sorry, really I am, but fair use policy as implemented by Chowbok has left me with few viable options.

I invite you to join the battle for Promotional Photo usage on Wikipedia and the protection of Fair Use concepts. --Jeff 08:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of your comment

Hi, thanks for your message. I looked at the edit and can't figure out either why I did that. However it happened, it wasn't intentional on my part and I'm sorry if it left you confused, because I'm confused too. Glad you caught it. Badagnani 22:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Thanks for the feedback

I will be glad to support you. Grandmaster 05:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An Idea

You should see if you can get a USC-related photographed featured. The campus is packed with great architecture and beautiful sights. – Lantoka (talk) 07:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On 19 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Yerazi, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Yomangani ^talk 13:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RFM request (self added)

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Your article, John G. Downey, was selected for DYK!

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Thanks for your contributions! (this one was a bit dicey, it arguably wasn't a stub before but what the heck) ++Lar: t/c 23:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your article, Isaias W. Hellman, was selected for DYK!

On December 24, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Isaias W. Hellman, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 06:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

Thank you for experimenting with the page University of Minnesota Law School on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Bushc a rrot (Talk·Desk) 17:28, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize. I wasn't paying attention, and I clicked the rollback link. I reverted the article to your version. Thank you for pointing that out. Bushc a rrot (Talk·Desk) 18:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh i guess it was a bot. Anyway, your latest edit doesn't improve the article, in fact, it reverts to misspellings and deletes relevant info and goes against wiki-convention. If you can improve on it, you should do so now, or leave the changes and improve upon them later. Taco325i 18:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

to be specific i mean the following: section titles are always in lower case unless it's a proper noun. some of your edits contained POV statements. the school has alot of notable alumni, it should be listed, you'll see that you won't find another school with so many alumni listed in paragraph form. you deleted notable faculty, which takes away from relevant info.Taco325i 18:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

2006 Insight Bowl

Yes, I was thinking of nominating it, and I was asking for feedback. I didn't even see the game because I don't have cable right now; I used Internet reports to create the article. If anyone wants to improve the article, go right ahead! — Dale Arnett 21:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock request

((unblock-auto|1=208.54.15.1|2=cplot vandalism, apologies for any collateral damage on this range:|3=Dmcdevit))

This range is used by Starbucks (in conjunction with T-Mobile) for its wifi network. --Bobak 20:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bobak, I tried to replace this block with one which only impacts new account creation and anon IP edits, but I've never tried that (or working with range blocks) before so I'm not sure if it will unblock existing accounts as I intended. Please reply here if you still can't edit. I'll leave the unblock request in place for now in case I've got it wrong and someone with more experience on these stops by. --CBD 22:06, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, you got it. Let us know if you have any further problems editing. Luna Santin 22:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Editor review

Thanks for having requested an editor review. A month has passed since it has been posted there, and it has been archived. You can find it at Wikipedia:Editor review/Bobak, where you may read last minute additions. We would really appreciate your help in reviewing a random editor. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 08:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:01;2007-PanamintRange.jpg

Please can yon give more precisions of the location of this photo according to categorize it? Thanks.--Alexandrin 10:40, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Darwin Falls, was selected for DYK!

On January 14, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Darwin Falls, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid 64 15:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting deletion of ranking info from law school articles

Hey man., could use your help in reverting the edits made by 75.69.241.162 to the law school articles. I noticed that you caught some of that as well. "I am not forming a legal relationship with any of you bastards." ahahha awesome. -Taco325i 19:33, 15 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I removed

I removed the trolling on this page by Cplot per WP:SOCK. --Wildnox (talk) 03:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Luck? Yeah, that would be nice. Luck like him contracting really sudden arthritis so that he couldn't type would be ideal. On the plus side, there are now a bunch of people watchlisting your user talk page who can now ~~stalk you forever~~ help you if you need it. :-P --tjstrf talk 08:30, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an idea: why not semi-protect this talk page until the pathetic sap controlling the sock-puppets comes to terms with how ultimately insignificant and pointless his actions are? (picture the life situation that would make sock puppet attacks on Wikipedia seem like a fun way to pass the time instead of, say... dating.) --Bobak 23:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You can go to WP:RFPP if nobody takes it upon him/her self to do so. --Wildnox (talk) 00:20, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photo

Thanks for the heads up. I've uploaded a few different photos from Gophersports.com over the past four months or so and to this point they're all still there. I know from experience that the U of M gives out CD's to the media with headshots of all of the players & coaches specifically for re-use like this. Would that be enough to ensure it stays? Gopher backer 01:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Members of TORT calling themselves Tortfeasors

It's been that way since I've been a part of it, so maybe last year (2006). --Techieguru 18:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose it's more like TORTfeasors, now that I think about it...that's how it's usually written. --Techieguru 14:13, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

help

{{helpme}}[Removing helpme tag because you and me will help this user -- in compliance with the template Rfwoolf]
Bobak, Thanks for your greeting on my new User talk:Marcus334. I quess you're my Wiki mentor. Your Wiki contributions are impressive. Good way to get away from law books. I messed up a bit and need help: see: at top station

Requested move top station → Top Station – {Capitalization error,created new page ([Top Station]) before realizing move was possible so didn't remove body of old page, needs admin help to migrate edit history & discussion.Marcus334 01:29, 23 January 2007 (UTC) }

can I do this?

FYI: I'm working on a new page [Manjampatti] based on a page I already have on my site. [1]

Regards, Marcus334 07:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC) PS: Is That your photo on front page of [2][reply]

Hi, sorry to jump in but the {{helpme}} tag attracts attention from all over wikipedia so it shouldn't stay up for too long, especially when a user has come to help. Why don't you just put the article back on to top station and then click the move button? Let's see if I can do that for you. Rfwoolf 08:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm. Looking at top station (which is actually Top station), I don't see any logs, meaning that the article in theory never existed. I wonder if it was actually moved. Trouble is, looking at the new article Top Station, I see the logs don't indicate much either, and the history has only 1 entry (besides my minor edit). I don't think anything needs to be done :P. Please let someone know if you still have a problem. Rfwoolf 08:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, La Casa Pacifica, was selected for DYK!

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Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid 64 00:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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re: Mark Sanchez

Like lots of articles, cited words sometimes get by some editors because we are all part timers. If you take a look at the talkpage, some editting occurred yesterday that seem to be POV edits to cleanse the record, so to speak. When I saw the first deletion of a cited paragraph, I reversed it and explained what happened on the talkpage. The same anon IP then made two more edits that were reversed by another editor. Then came another anon IP trying to do the same.

The sad thing is, that as with all articles, eventually links break and some editors just erase the old citation. Then uncited material gets editted out because it appears to be unsourced in a WP:BLP. I have seen this recently in several other bios I watch where editors are using history to fluff up the articles. It is very disturbing and maybe way the saying, "history is written by the victor" arose. Ronbo76 02:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]