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Archives Updated 5/28/2007 Vaoverland 01:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Images: Message from Vaoverland

New Wikipedia policies are causing many images uploaded correctly in this past to be revisited, and many notices to me which imply that I must act. I do not intend to spend time defending most of these, as I think other Wikipedians can do a better job with images, and I prefer to work on content, where I think I have more to contribute. Thanks to anyone who wants to help justify or replace images I uploaded in the past, all of which I feel were done properly copyrights-wise at the time. Mark Vaoverland 01:57, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

 I looked up the article on lost counties, towns, etc. in VA and found it quite interesting.   I got there after looking at the article on Kopp.  I found it to be very interesting.
 

Incidentally, I'm familiar with Wash Woods, and I think the term comes from trees which are eroded from the dunes in N. Currituck Banks/False Cape area. The general movement of the banks, from wind erosion of dunes, is to the west. Thickets of live oak have been buried by dunes centuries ago, and eventually the dune moves even further west, exposing the dead trees on the ocean beach, hence "Wash Woods."

John

Submarine article

Hi there. I was wondering if you could put in proper references, because the article is actually very interesting and I would be willing to have it late. Thanks, Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 07:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi thanks for all the hard work.Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 02:50, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

On May 30, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aluminaut, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

It says that you are not accepting email. Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 04:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Virginia Newsletter - May 2007

The May 2007 issue of the Virginia WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.--Kubigula (talk) 02:56, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:Fp82435a.jpg

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You posted a message about Image:Fp82435a.jpg. This photo is from Florida Photographic Collection, and is (as is all of the collection). I hope that satisfies your concern(s). Vaoverland 12:14, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Not all photos from the Florida Photographic Collection are in the public domain, see Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2007_May_6#Template:Flphoto. Yonatan ^talk 15:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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People from Illinois

As I was going through Category:People from Illinois, I noticed that your user name is in there. Did you mean to put it in Category:Wikipedians in Illinois instead? The "People" categories are normally just for articles.--Kranar drogin 01:32, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter - Issue 9

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 9	9 June 2007	About the Newsletter
Departments: Features: State updates Project news Highways notability guideline? California Deletion debates Portal debate Maryland Featured member Three new GAs From the editors Exit list debates
Archives  |  Newsroom   Shortcut : WP:USRD/NEWS

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Lee

Mark, Could you help with an admin task? Someone has once again mucked around with Robert E. Lee by renaming it and making 1,000s of links go to a disambiguation page. Thanks, Hal Jespersen 14:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

wow, you are right, what a mess! I think it is now done ... Mark

Thanks much. Sometimes reversing name changes is difficult for the unprivileged user. Hal Jespersen 01:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Bus Company Ownership

I am attempting to locate a cousin that supposedly owned with her husband a school bus company in Virginia. Her maiden name was Joetta Stratton and she was born and raised in Fort Worth, Texas. I understand that they either sold or closed the company and now live in Florida. Since you indicated that you were a part owner of the Overland company perhaps you may have met her. I am sorry but I do not have her married name. Thanks for any help. Bill Liles wpl1@pacbell.net

I have responded directly to this request via e-mail this morning. Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia, Vaoverland 11:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

High Bridge Trail State Park

Hey Mark, long time no see. I just created an article stub for High Bridge Trail State Park and I thought you could give a little more train history/context to the 31 miles of Norfolk southern bed that was just donated. Peace, MPS 15:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:1973_Ford_with_Wayne_Lifeguard_Body.jpg

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Price's Turnpike and Cumberland Gap Road

Do you know the details of this road, a state-financed turnpike, between Cumberland Gap and Tazewell? Thank you. You may also be interested in helping with List of turnpikes in Virginia and West Virginia. --NE2 10:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

In 1928, the Department of Highways made a map of the former turnpikes; if you can find this (and, if possible, get copies and/or scan it in), it would be very helpful. --NE2 20:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter - Issue 10

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 10	7 July 2007	About the Newsletter
Departments: Features: State updates Project news Kentucky subproject promoted California Deletion debates AID restructuring Maryland Featured member GA status Pennsylvania From the editors Notability discussion currently collecting dust
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Virginia Barnstar

Howdy, Vaoverland! At the advice of Kubigula, I'm giving you the Virginia Barnstar for Excellence, in appreciation of all the work you've done on Virginia related articles. Congratulations.

For extensive work on Virginia articles.

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DC Meetup notice

Greetings. There is going to be a Washington DC Wikipedia meetup on next Saturday, July 21st at 5pm in DC. Since you are listed in Category:Wikipedians_in_Virginia, I thought I'd invite you to come. I'm sorry about the short notice for the meeting. Hopefully we'll do somewhat better in that regard next time. If you can't come but want to make sure that you are informed of future meetings be sure to list yourself under "but let me know about future events", and if you don't want to get any future direct notices \(like this one\), you can list yourself under "I'm not interested in attending any others either" on the DC meetup page.--Gmaxwell 22:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Split

I hope you do split the article; however, the information you posted is not relevant to dogfighting in general it is the US, so it would have to be removed or the article will become to long. In addition, you might want to add title to your references rather than just leaving the link in it's full form. Good luck. PianoKeys 20:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:VSU-Trojan-Image.jpg)

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adult add

how can one possibly document childhood adhd symptoms where do you get these criteria, in addition what makes you think everyone is the same for adult add

REPLY: I make no claim to have any professional qualifications. I am an adult who was first diagnosed with AADD (or ADHD if you prefer to call it that) in 1995 at age 44. Here is my best shot at answering you:

1. The Wikipedia article about the condition in adults is very incomplete. Some Wikipedians feel the condition as it occurs with adults should not be in a separate article. You have to go to the Wikipedia article for Attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder also and put the pieces together to make any sense of the condition in adults.

2. The criteria in the United States are established by the mental health professionals and set forth in what they call the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual IV-Text Revision (DSM-IV-TR).

3. A lot of folks are not even considered for diagnosis until they are adults. Most people have some information available from childhood, if not medical, then behavioral. Other people are better observers than we are ourselves, but I personally have never met anyone with adult ADD who, upon thinking back and recalling their childhood, didn't think that they would have met the diagnostic criteria as a child.

4. Regarding this question: "what makes you think everyone is the same for adult add" - Simple answer: I don't and nowhere in the article can I find where anyone says that.

I hope that helps. For me, finding out that I apparently have AADD (or Adult ADHD) for me was a huge step to coping better with life's challenges. One of the diagnostic criteria is that it must be causing functional problems in your life. NOTE THIS: Even if you have ADD/ADHD brain wiring, and/or a history indicating it, if everything is going well for you now, you don't meet the diagnostic criteria.

I don't consider my diagnosis a stigma; it was more like finding the owner's manual to my brain; a lot of stuff about myself I never understood began to make sense, and that led to solutions to some aspects I wanted to improve upon. However, no one needs to know my medical business except me. That's an advantage over the situation for lot of kids who find it to be a stigma. Good luck if you are seeking answers and improvements. Vaoverland 00:53, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Dogfighting

Pls stop adding USA information to the generic Dogfighting article using IP addresses. There is a separate article for USA dogfighting. thanks DingoDaddy 22:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I never add information to WP from anonymous IP addresses. Rather, I am the editor who broke out the Dog fighting in the United States article, and trimmed the US content from the main dog fighting article. Vaoverland 23:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Vick

Hey there. It seems that you and I have the same ideas with regards on how to improve the article. For reasons I won't get into, I'm not editing article pages right now. However, if you are looking for some "thoughts" and what not. Please feel free to let me know and I'll be happy to discuss things with you. I've marked this for watching, but we could use my talk page just as well. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  22:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• Ps - nice job with the section titles. Those are more encyclopedic and more appropriate. it's likely the Bad Newz situation will extend past 2k8 - but since we don't know - leaving out the year is a good thing!. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  22:37, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

this is good for me if it works for you. Vaoverland 23:18, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• Absolutely! I think the vast majority of the article as it stands needs to be reworked and/or removed. But I'm sure that will be met with a lot of "resistance". That being said, it's in pretty bad shape. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  23:26, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I have gone back into the Vick article, and restored enough of the content in the BNK section so that it makes sense, pretty much all summary stuff. In the BNK article, I think we are not going into too much detail, as there is a lot of interest in all that is going on. For my main goals, most of what I want to improve is removing repetitive or incorrect stuff, inaccuracies, opinions, POV stuff. I want to also place emphasis on making sure we have proper sources and overall better flow. And of course, keeping it up to date as the situation moves forward. I certainly agree that it it unlikely to be resolved within 2007. It isn't even clear if the parallel investigations will be over by the end of the year, more less federal and state trials, appeals, etc. Vaoverland 23:52, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks, I was in the middle of doing that last night when the "problem" reared it's head again. So i had to leave it be. I would say we are absolutely 100% on the same page. The only thing i would add to that is a desire to format the references. My template of choice is usually {{cite web}}. You can see what "version" of it i am preferential to at Joe Montana#References and notes. That aside, i just think some format would be better than no format. Now that we've got something rolling, perhaps just starting at the top and working down through the article would be best. Thoughts? Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  00:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Michael Vick

I read your comment on my user Talk page. I'm not an expert at this stuff so apologies if I inadvertantly removed your work. Can you try to shorten the lead a bit. I think it's unreasonably long with regards to the controversy.

New Article Improvment page for WP:VIRGINIA

Seeing as our old Collaborations page at WP:VIRGINIA had no activity in the past year it was decided to replace it with a new Article Improvement/Request Help page that would allow members to list articles in need of attention. Its also a place to request help for an article taht you are working on to see if any other members would like to volunteer and help out. Thanks. T Rex | talk 01:14, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks but it's not my idea, it's User:Krm500's. He just let us borrow it for WP:VIRGINIA. T Rex | talk 02:59, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Virginia/Article Improvement right there, its on the navbar on the project page. T Rex | talk 02:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

BRAVO!

20 000!

An important letter

Dear roads editor,

You may have noticed some changes at WP:USRD lately. Some of them, like the cleanup templates and the stub templates, have been astounding and great. Unfortunately, others have been disturbing.

This has become evidenced by the departure of a few prominent editors at USRD, a few RFC's, and much fighting among USRD editors.

After the second RFC, many of us found the opportunity to take a step away from Wikipedia for a while--as a self-imposed wikibreak, or possibly on vacation.

The result of such introspection was that many of us were placing ourselves in a "walled garden" and on a self-imposed pedestal of authority over the roads department. Also, we were being hostile to a few users who were not agreeing with us.

In fact, IRC has been the main incarnation of this "walled garden." Decisions have been made there to conduct grudges and prejudices against a few valued USRD users with poor justification.

For this, we have come to apologize. We have come to ask your forgiveness.

In addition to this, we hope to work as one USRD team from now on and to encourage cooperation instead of the promotion of interests.

All users are welcome to collaborate on IRC, the newsletter, or anywhere else at USRD.

In the future, please feel free to approach us about any issues you may have.

Regards,

• Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)
• TMF ^{Let's Go Mets - Stats}
• master son^{T - C}
• Son^Talk
• (→O - RLY?)

Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Marking edits as minor

Hi, could you please not mark all your edits as minor? Generally, minor edits mean grammer, spelling etc. or slightly more than that. As a general rule of thumb, it is possible that someone will disagree with the edit, it shouldn't be marked as minor. Marking all edits as minor make it harder for people to tell which edits they should pay attention to on their watchlists. Thanks JoshuaZ 00:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

OK,....changed my default setting. SBTC Mark in Historic Triangle 15:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe cleanup is finished on Twilight of Colonization, West Virginia article

Mark,

I am pulling all sections I've comtributed to the West Virginia article and History. No hard feelings for I'm just too dumb...

Conaughy 12:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Talk: Michael Vick

That guy was determined! Frankly, I'm only surprised we haven't seen more of this. I suppose that most would-be vandals are deterred when they see the article is protected.--Kubigula (talk) 17:24, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

How long is the Vick article protected?

As one of the people tweaking the Michael Vick article, I was wondering--how long is it under semi-protection? Was wondering because since a plea announcement could come today, this article could be a trolling magnet if the semi-protection runs out too soon. Blueboy96 12:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I dunno, but I will attempt to check on that and advise. Mark in Historic Triangle 14:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Figured that since you're an admin you'd know how long the semi-protection lasted. You may want to consider a semi-protect on the Atlanta Falcons article ... my intuition tells me it could get vandalized once the plea agreement comes down. Blueboy96 21:16, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter - Issue 11

The U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter
Volume 1, Issue 11	18 August 2007	About the Newsletter
Departments: Features: State and national updates Project news Cleanup system revamped Assessment Deletion debates Stubs renamed New York Featured member IRC channel goes global From the editors Minnesota bridge collapses One year after SRNC: A reflection
Archives  |  Newsroom   Shortcut : WP:USRD/NEWS

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Thank you so much

Thank you for the very kind words; it's those kind of comments that make this a project worth being part of.

While I'm here, let me also observe, now that I have explored a good portion of the VA Wikipedia space, that it's amazing how much of the content comes from a certain gentleman from the Historic Triangle. We are lucky to have you here.--Kubigula (talk) 04:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to hear about your family member. I'll make a point to take another look at J. Sargeant Reynolds.--Kubigula (talk) 21:42, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

FYI - I've contacted the editor who provided all the new content to ask him if he would give some information as to the sources. If nothing comes of that, I'll attempt some cleanup.--Kubigula (talk) 03:54, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Vick updates

I just wanted to give you a heads up since you have been on of the other active editors on the Vick article. If you haven't seen, I proposed that the article should be accepted at aid. In any event, I took an eraser to the article tonight. It's still in terrible shape but here's what i did (in a nutshell) - i refractored about 90% of the Bad news section to that articles talk page so that it could be incorporated inot the bad news article. I axed much of the lead because it read like a current event update and not a good WP:LEAD. The lead that is in place now is not great, but it's a heck of a lot closer to the mos standards. I removed at least three sections (one was really small - like one line) including his style of play which was overtly pov and the sources provided were a combination of "unreliable" and "not properly applicable" In other words, they didn't say what the article claimed it said. The bad news section needs a major over haul, if i don't get to it tonight, you might want to take a look at the refractored content and make sure nothing critical was removed. Be well. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  06:41, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

LOL - I didn't notice your edits mixed in - have at it for a bit. I'll come back later and do some more to it. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  06:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I guess i was mistaken regarding the communication, i've stuck around for a bit in case you need anything. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  07:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not trying to wage a war. Some of our philosophy differs, I believe. I am inclined to include content if I think it would be be interesting to some users, perhaps to excess. I think you have a differing approach. Neither is right/wrong, nor deserving of personal abuse or disrespect, and I intended neither of those to you, and I do apologize for any offense.

I live in the NN area and you would not believe this lack of understanding of the local youth and even many adults about the facts. I just would like to make sure if someone references WP, there is enough content presented to facilitate accurate understanding of the truth. Even as i write, gambling has been eliminated from the lead. As you surely understand, the gambling and lying to them were major factors with Goodell and Blank, even though dog fighting probably draws more emotional fire elsewhere. I do wish to apologize for what may have seemed emotional behavior from me. My WP work is usually not as offensive to other editors as seems to have occurred here. We have all put a lot of time and effort into this, I do believe in good faith. Yours from Grove, Virginia, Mark Mark in Historic Triangle 07:50, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that we are as far apart as you might think (at least not in our personal views on the situation). But you have to remember what wiki is and is WP:NOT. I live in the metro-atlanta area and am well aware of what's going on - but the truth is not as easy to identify as you may want to think. Remember - i'm not talking about my personal beliefs - i'm talking about the presentation of information here. This article does not exists to convince people that Vick was a jack ass (which i think he is), and similarly, it's not here to assert that he's a great man. Think of it like this: Here is a list of facts about a person - now let's make it read well :-). I don't have any problem with the desire to present information - but let's focus more on working together (especially when someone comes to your talk page with an update). You are clearly passionate about this article, and I think that can be funneled into some very productive edits. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  07:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

PS - i refractored the content to keep this discussion in one place. It will make it easier for readability and ease of use (so to speak). Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  07:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm getting going to bed right now - but i wanted to let you know that i do have some comments on the section you re-instituted. I'll hit you up with my thoughts next time i'm around. Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  08:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter - Issue 12

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Thanks for all the work on Gloucester.

Thank you for helping out on Gloucester's article. You added alot of stuff. It's not much, but here, take this:

--Kkrouni/こかるに/Ккроуни/ΚκρΩυνι has wished you well! Joy promotes WikiLove and hopefully this little bit has helped make your day better. Spread the WikiJoy by sharing the joy someone else, Try to brighten the day of as many people as you can! Keep up the great editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Joy message}} to their talk page with a friendly message. (It was deleted on my request, becuase I'm leaving)

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DYK

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--Carabinieri 04:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Rc15562 anthony rossi.jpg

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Colony of Virginia

The Colony of Virginia article has been getting regular vandalism attacks - primarily from unregistered and new users. Do you think we should ask for semi-protection for the page? I'm fairly new, so I don't know how to gauge the severity of the attacks, but I'm doing several rvv's per day on the page sometimes. Thoughts?

By the way, I see your name all over Virginia articles and your work is amazing and has inspired me to become more involved with WP. VirginiaProp 14:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Replying to myself! I got an admin to put a semi protect on Colony of Virginia for a week. If the vandalism resumes afterwards, we can step it up a notch. Virtually all of the vandalism is from anon ip's, however there was one registered user that did some vandalism and we put warnings on their talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by VirginiaProp (talk • contribs) 16:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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