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Is this article locked?

I was going to edit the line about Ron Kovic. It should read something like "parapalegic veteran and anti-war activist Ron Kovic." Not "Anti-Vietnam War hero Ron Kovic;" Even if you agree with his stance this is far from NPOV, he didn't pull a baby out of a burning building or something. Of course I couldn't because there is no way to edit the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.86.153 (talk) 21:11, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of Films

We really could use a list of the films Tom Cruise has been in. 76.27.163.200 19:35, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I fully agree, I think a filmography is a must for such a famous actor.

I also agree with the people who believe the Scientology aspect of the page should be toned down. I think there is a possibility that splitting this article would be the smartest move. Tom Cruise's personal life in regard to Scientology should perhaps be in a different article to the main one regarding his career and non-religious personal life. Although stating an actor's religion is perfectly acceptable on a profile, I believe there is too much discussion regarding Scientology which is swamping the page. 86.132.12.60 23:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Someone please remove the anal jab at the end. I'm sure its a farce but can't change it because I'm on the iPhone.

Physical Attributes

I see a lot of conflicting information on the internet about such things as Cruise's height. A section with the correct answers about such things would be helpful 4.143.234.139 21:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Eric[reply]


Possible Removal of Scientology Template

I think the Scientology template on the right hand side is unnecessary. Although his membership in the church is certainly relevant, he isn't famous because he's a Scientologist. Using celebrities who are Chrisitians as a precedent (since we don't put the Christianity template on their pages), I'd like to see it removed, if there's a consensus. Topher0128 03:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with the removal. There are plenty of links to scientology for the interested readers and an entire section on the scientology aspects of Tom Cruise's life.


I agree with the removal also. For anyone who wishes to read about Scientology, ( which I certainly don't) there are things you must think about first. Scientology is a new religion that has nothing to do with any other religion. Besides, it has been around for what, five years and noone knows a thing about it who should. Therefore, it is a dumb choiceMeldshal42 21:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)Meldshal42[reply]

Hello all, I actually think the template is appropriate. To address: Using celebrities who are Chrisitians as a precedent (since we don't put the Christianity template on their pages), actors/celebrities who make it an issue to promote their religions ought to have corresponding infoboxes on their pages. Cruise has, more than once, advanced his religion as an alternative to medical treatment. If whichever Baldwin found Jesus recently started telling people to skip the doctor and just pray, an infobox would be clearly indicated. Anynobody 11:13, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, I must speak out against the template. Like someone else said, there are plenty of links to Scientology articles. Also, the article should just say briefly "Tom Cruise is of The Scientology religion, and be done there. This is my personal opinion, but I believe i'm not alone. Thanks, Meldshal42.

A change to the Template:Scientologyfooter might be an idea. It's better for articles which aren't primarily about Scientology, and it can play well with other footer templates. AndroidCat 18:01, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of double statement

It's twice lsited about his split with Paramount he split with his 5 year old grl friend hamanuchi allison kfjdkgd- once under the Split Heading (current events) and once under miscellaneous. Perhaps remove from the misc. section? knightrojen 04:33, 06 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Can someone please add Image:Tom Cruise Top Gun sunset.jpg and Image:Tripod in action.jpg back into the article. People removed them because they had no rationale. They do now. I can't edit the page for some reason, so can they be added back in please.

Regarding "The Eye" & "I Married A Witch"

In case your wondering, these are two new filsm that Tom is connected two. However, they can only be viewed at here: [1]


His images not to be used in games/etc

But wait, what about the Nintendo 64 Mission Impossible game?

Tom Cruise Katie Holmes

Can someone add a quote somewhere in that article that Steven Colbert from the Colbert Report supposes that this couple is over rated.Newrebirth 01:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please add io and oc

oc:Tom Cruise io:Tom Cruise Thanks.

Surname

Just a query, the article states "Cruise was born to Thomas Mapother III and Mary Lee Pfeiffer" and later says "Cruise, who dropped his father's name at age twelve" but there's no origin given for the name Cruise. I'm guessing, if it is a name he's related to, and not a randomly chosen one (which seems unlikely for a 12 year old), it's from the maternal Irish ancestors as Cruise is a Dublin area surname. Is there any clarification of this? It seems confusing that there's no apparent origin for the name given in the article, and I'm guessing most people don't realise Cruise is an Irish name. Lone Architect 16th October 2006

I just assumed from the heading that "Cruise" is his middle name. Topher0128 21:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question about his surname

In an HBO interview of Tom Cruise in 1992, Tom stated that he was Croatian (Possibly born in Croatia, I don't remember) and his name was Tomislav Kruzić He had later changed his name to Tom Cruise (Tomislav Kruzić (Kruz sounds exactly like Cruise))

So what is the story?

Emperor of Europe 20:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the citation provided for Cruise's parents which goes in to some detail. --Yamla 20:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Born in Croatia!!! LOL! Not exactly.... Mad Jack 05:39, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Abusive Language

I re-introduced the text in the INTRO that that been reverted on this actor. The reason why I re-wrote the intro initially is because the language was abusive. Intros of encyclopedial articles should summarize a person's life and/or achievement, and not necessarily highlight the negative instances of the personality's life which are temporary anyway. Actually there is quite a bit of coverage on this later in the article. I hope this clarifies things for writers here and help them contribute to articles for which they will be commended....NeutralWriter

What fun is an article about Tom Cruise if we can't use abusive language? I mean, the first word that comes to mind when you even think of Tom Cruise is ASSHOLE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.18.25.60 (talk) 21:13, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]


"After his oscar nomination tommy got constipated in his hotel." This page is locked and this stuff still shows up?? How do I delete/add... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.184.228.4 (talk) 11:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA failing

  • The lead section is not up to standards of WP:LEAD; ie lead section should summarize the article and in this case should be some two paragraphs longer
  • The section "Acting career" is very dense and reads as a list at time. If you were trying to shorten it to get the article shorter, it is superior to split off that section into an article of its own. But it would be better to have this section long, on the expense of other section.
  • Several statements needs referencing. This includes the statement that he is equally popular among both women and men and all figures of movie grossing.
  • Major restructure needed. Some examples:
    • Half of the article is "controversy" which is inappropriate for any biography.
    • The relationship section has too many headers
    • Is a section on gay rumors crucial for the article?
          • Yes, it is. Absolutely!--Fredyrod 01:35, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • The Controversy#Miscellaneous section is like a trivia section. I think that it would be better for the article to remove it in whole.

Fred-Chess 16:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number of consecutive $100 Million movies

In the opening paragraph there is a statement that says that Tom Cruise is the only actor to have starred in 6 consecutive $100 Million movies (domestic gross). He has actually starred in 7 and he's not the only one. One of them included a movie where he actually had sex with a turtle. Tom Hanks also has 7 consecutive $100 million movies. However, if Tom Cruise's next movie also grosses over $100 million then he'll be the only person to have reached that milestone as Tom Hanks' streak has already ended.

Tom Cruise 5/5/06 Mission: Impossible III $133,501,348 6/29/05 War of the Worlds $234,280,354 8/6/04 Collateral $101,005,703 12/5/03 The Last Samurai $111,127,263 6/21/02 Minority Report $132,072,926 12/14/01 Vanilla Sky $100,618,344 5/24/00 Mission: Impossible II $215,409,889


Tom Hanks 12/25/02 Catch Me If You Can $164,615,351 7/12/02 Road to Perdition $104,454,762 12/22/00 Cast Away $233,632,142 12/10/99 The Green Mile $136,801,374 11/19/99 Toy Story 2 $245,852,179 12/18/98 You've Got Mail $115,821,495 7/24/98 Saving Private Ryan $216,540,909

  • According to BoxOfficeMojo.com

name

The article states that he dropped his father's name at the age of 12, ie becoming Thomas Cruise versus Thomas Cruise Mapother IV. Was the name change legal or not? The birth certificate of his daughter Suri (as seen in a link in the KATIE HOLMES article) states that his legal name is Thomas Cruise. Any indication when the name change became legal?

Bad Writing Abounds!

"lip-syncing Bob Seger's "Old Time Rock and Roll" in his underwear, has become an iconic moment in film history."

boo that's bad writing

Born on the Fourth of July

Shouldn't his role in that movie be mentioned in the box? He was nominated for an Oscar for it. Redddogg 03:56, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Beware false prophet

  • Interesting source:

Tom Cruise, according to a high-ranking Scientologist, will one day be "worshiped like Jesus all over the world, becoming a prophet for the movement." Cruise is the "chosen one" who will spread the word.

  • And here is the appropriate citation:

"Gauthier: Beware false prophet", Deborah E. Gauthier/Daily News Columnist, Sunday, January 28, 2007, The Daily News Tribune. Yours, Smee 19:37, 28 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]


The above story (Tom Cruise as Christ) has been denied by Greg Churilov of the Scientology Parishioners' League and Jeff Quiros, president of the Church of Scientology. IMO it should be removed from Tom Cruise's article because the source on it is a not credible tabloid, The Sun, and it is potentially libellous.

69.12.131.206 04:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Sully 1 February 2007[reply]

Jeff Quiros isn't the president of the Church of Scientology. (That would be Heber Jentzsch, unless there's been a recent coup.) I don't doubt that Greg Churilov is a member of the SPL, but if you could supply a reference that the SPL is any kind of official Church of Scientology organization, a number of people would be very grateful. (Personally I think the whole story is a bunch of codswallop started by one tabloid and spread to others like "Bigfoot's baby" stories.) AndroidCat 05:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, the relevent policy/guidelines are WP:RS, WP:V, WP:BLP, especially WP:BLP#Remove unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material. This has six sentences in a tabloid from "a source close to the actor". AndroidCat 14:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Quiros is President of the Church of Scientology (of San Francisco), a fact which my source omitted. AndroidCat, thanks for the references; you can probably tell I'm a n00b. As far as I know the SPL is composed of volunteers, does that make it not 'official'? You are right, the Cruise as Christ story is tabloid crap and whoever keeps reverting it needs to read the references you posted. The link I have to CoS denial of the Sun story;

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/...a/16591805.htm

69.12.131.206 05:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)S. M. Sullivan[reply]

South Park

South Park is probably the most humourless, unintelligent and lowest quality series ever done. That should be embarassing enough, more distressing only is, that the yanks proclaiming it as something interesting above its needlessness. For the reference, who cares if there was done any stupid 2nd-class series done about Tom Cruise, it has zero encyclopedic relevance. 83.135.165.112 19:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. What an idiot you are! I believe the truth would be told when "South Park" in your first sentence be substituted with your own name. Tom Cruise is crazy. This information is missing from the article! --84.249.217.167 23:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Tom's reaction to it was what was notable. Redddogg 06:15, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The South Park episode and Cruise's reaction were of high controversy. There is no reason why it shouldn't be listed within his article.
The part of the South Park section in this article mentions the R. Kelly series, "Trapped in the Closet" but has no link to the IFC site. It is located at IFC.com's website.[1] Kulturvultur 19:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Scientologists equate Cruise w/ Christ?

  • It looks like there are now lots and lots and lots of secondary sources reporting on this incident:
  1. 'Make-believers' find a new 'Christ' in Cruise, Florida Baptist Witness, FL - Feb 7, 2007
  2. Cruise v. Christ, LAist, CA - Jan 28, 2007
  3. It's official - Tom Cruise is divine, January 26, 2007, The Guardian
  4. Tom Cruise a False Christ?, The Conservative Voice, NC - Jan 29, 2007
  5. Tom Cruise hailed as 'Christ' of Scientology, New Zealand Herald (Subscription), New Zealand - Jan 24, 2007
  6. Tom Cruise is 'a Christ', Melbourne Herald Sun, Australia - Jan 24, 2007
  7. Tom Cruise compared to Christ, China Daily, China - Jan 23, 2007
  8. Tom Cruise compared to Christ, Hollywood News, UK - Jan 24, 2007
  9. Tom Cruise is Scientology 'Christ', Now Magazine Online, UK - Jan 23, 2007
  10. Tom Cruise is the 'Christ' of Scientology., PR-Inside.com (Pressemitteilung), Austria - Jan 23, 2007
  11. Tom Cruise, Scientology’s New Messiah, Bodog Beat, Costa Rica - Jan 23, 2007
  12. Tom Cruise dubbed Scientology's Jesus, LondonNet, 23/01/07
  • At the very least, worth mentioning in the mainspace of the article... Smee 08:26, 9 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]
    • If you do so, don't forget to mention Cruise's new nickname: MC 5 ft. Jesus. (^o^) —Eickenberg 23:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Oh, how silly! All based on one stupid rumor and one unnamed "source". Sheesh! --Justanother 23:15, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Exactly. However, one of the sources is known. It was David Miscavige according to The Sun. But to my mind this needn't be in the article. Even Jesus wasn't mentioned by any encyclopedia or historian of his time. Guess we have to discuss this again in 100 years or so. —Eickenberg 23:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • No, the source in NOT Miscavige. It is someone "close to the actor" passing a bunch of foolishness for, likely, their own purposes. Hey, I like Cruise as much as the next movie fan and I am glad that he is going so public on Scn but pul-leese! 'Nuf said. --Justanother 05:04, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • The story's nonsense, I agree - the Sun isn't exactly known for its accuracy, or indeed truthfulness. However, it has been very widely covered and the CoS has put out the expected strong denials. Justanother might want to consider the benefits of having both claim and counter-claim on the record in one place - it's better to debunk the story rather than just ignore it. -- ChrisO 23:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • The thing is: Only time will tell if Cruise is actually some kind of Christ-figure for Scientology. The only thing we have is some statements by (partially unknown) Scientology members. So this topic should rather be in the WP-article on Scientology or on Miscavige, not on Cruise. BTW: I wonder if they'll write a "New Testament" on the Tom's life and deeds to surpass (and replace?) the "Old Testament" by L. Ron Hubbard. (Would be a logical thing to do, wouldn't it?) —Eickenberg 00:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • No, it would go in Cruise. Hiya, Chris. I am certainly not the arbiter of anything here (laff) though I appreciate your taking my thoughts into account. If it appears in RS then it can appear here. That is all I ever ask. Just treat it in a manner befitting the project and it will be fine with me. --Justanother 00:31, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Cruise and UA to produce Mortal Kombat sequel?

This rumor is flying around the IMDB boards from a source and could possibly be true it seems. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.78.98.27 (talk) 20:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Something to maybe add

On the 53rd episode of the anime "Yakitate!! Japan" they have a parody of the first episode of their own show starring a guy named Tom Crusoe who's trying to convince his father to try eating rice. In the first episode of Yakitate!! Japan, Azuma Kazuma was trying to get his grandfather to try eating bread instead of rice. Besides the name reference the character isn't like Cruise at all. ArtimusClydeFrog 02:37, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

71.121.165.158 02:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC) Anagram[reply]

I thought it might be a decent thing to add to his trivia page. The anagram of Tom Cruise spells out 'Im so cuter'

Citations to add to the article...

Staff (March 21, 2007). "Inside Katie's Prison: Crying Over Tom's Threats". US Weekly. Victoria Lasdon Rose. Retrieved 2007-03-23. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Staff (March 15, 2007). "Katie Holmes Punished!". Star. Retrieved 2007-03-23. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Walls, Jeannette (April 19, 2007). "Is Katie Holmes breaking free of Cruise control?". MSNBC. NBC. {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Staff (April 22, 2007). "Katie to enrol Suri into 'kiddie Catholicism' classes". New Zealand Herald. APN Holdings NZ Limited. Retrieved 2007-04-22. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Staff (April 19, 2007). "Putting the brakes on Cruise control". Miami Herald. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Oliveira, Maira (April 20, 2007). "Katie Will Reportedly Sign Up Suri For "Kiddie Catholicism" Classes". All Headline News. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

AP and Post Wire Services (April 19, 2007). "Crui$ing for Cash". New York Post. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Staff (April 19, 2007). "Cruise to detox NY". Sunday Times, Australia. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Smith, Kyle (April 20, 2007). "Don't Be Tricked By $ci-Fi Tom-Foolery". New York Post. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Seifman, David (April 20, 2). "Crui$e is 'Detox' of De Town". New York Post. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Sanchez, Hazel (April 20, 2007). "Cruise Thinks Scientology Can Save 9/11 Responders". WCBS-TV. CBS. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Staff (April 20, 2007). "Tom Cruise holds fundraiser for Scientology 9/11 detox project". WABC-TV. ABC. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

These should be incorporated into the article. Smee 08:19, 22 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

tom cruise schooling

i wanna know where the source of tom cruise's school history came from on here? i know he graduated from St. Xavier high school in Louisville Ky. but i am not sure on the year. i also know he went to grade school here to. i think this source needs to be checked out again —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jchill1122 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

So... does that make Cruise an X-Men? Is he Storm?

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 05:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia section leftovers

  • Despite famously wearing braces to correct the alignment of his teeth in the early 2000s, Tom Cruise's upper teeth are not centered; one of his two front teeth is positioned right in the middle of his face, a fact verifiable from many photographs.
  • Bury Your Dead made an album with every song title from the movies he has been in.
  • Owns a Bugatti Veyron 16.4.

Here is what I couldn't fit into the article because; 1) Not sure 1st point is true, 2)How his face and teeth line up is irrelevant, 3) Bury Your Dead isn't is famous as Cruise, people might wonder who they are, 4) Either we list all his vehicles or none AND is this really notable? The rest seemed to fit in easily. Anynobody 11:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage to Kidman

If he married Nicole Kidman in 1990 and they divorced in 2001, they were married 11 years, not ten as stated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.17.42.72 (talk) 07:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]


Trivia section? Awards section?

How come there's not Trivia section or an awards section? There is an awards section for Nicole Kidman and so many other people on Wikipedia. Tri400 14:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

getting into hollywood

as the article reads, there is a huge gap between his "discovering acting in high school" to "breaking into movies." Does anyone know how and during what time he got discovered, or was able to break into hollywood?

Tom Cruise Is Not Considered Christ

The Sun is a Brit tabloid. not a reliable source. The presidents of the churches of Scientology of San Francisco and Boston have both denied this story. It was repeatedly removed from the David Miscavige bio here because it is poorly sourced and very unlikely to be true. I don't care how many other papers have picked up this story. It was crap when the Sun made it up, and it is still crap. It's going away.

Confessions of a Placenta Eater

I took out the part about Tom saying he was going to eat Katie's placenta. Nothing more came of it and I don't think the article can have a paragraph about everything that he says. If it comes out that he really did eat it, then the information should be included. Steve Dufour 00:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The filmography is not visible

The filmography for Tom Cruise should be made more visible by adding a link in the contents. I believe the vast majority of actors has one.

ICE77 -- 81.104.129.226 00:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Sabotage?

I was directed to link 24 on this page and noticed that it doesn't go where it should. Rather than being about Cruise,
it links to a National Enq. story about Whitney Houston. Maybe someone changed it because they didn't like
where it went??? Sorry, I don't know why it's putting this box around my message
24.21.209.135 01:46, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Acting Career

Brat Pack should link to Brat Pack (movies) 24.86.185.56 15:16, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welsh American?

"Cruise has German and Colonial English ancestry from his paternal great-grandparents, William Reibert and Charlotte Louise Voelker; and purportedly Welsh ancestry from his paternal great-great-grandfather, Dylan Henry Mapother, who emigrated from Flint, Wales to Louisville, Kentucky in 1850"

The fact that he has "purportedly Welsh ancestry" from a great, great grandfather isn't a very good reason to include him a category called "Welsh-Americans". I think he should be removed, his link to Wales is too vague and very distant. Deus Ex 20:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, I'd be bold and remove it but I can't work out this mess of a section at all. How can he be descended three times from one man, twice from that man's grandfather, and once from that man's great-grandfather? It's like a bad riddle. (The surgeon is female!) -- Dandelions 23:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Cruise Charities

Can someone please add Tom Cruise's contribution to charity?

Tom Cruise has donated to charities such as, the Ashley Flint Fund, Tsunami Relief Fund, Themoms.biz Diabetes Fund, Hillary Rodham Clinton’s, Jackie Chan’s Foundation, in 2001 he participated at “Time For Heroes” fundrising to raise money for research for children with AIDS, Cruise is active in the Hollywood Education and Literacy Project (H.E.L.P., he co-founded an organization to expand a treatment program for rescue workers after the collapse of the World Trade centre in 2002, he was honored in 2003 by MENTOR/National Mentoring Partnership with their Excellence in Mentoring Award for his lifelong campaign against illiteracy and he was honored by Mentor LA in 2007 for his support with schools and neighborhoods of some of the most disenfranchised communities in Los Angeles. [2] Ladyfun 10:02, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. However the source you provided does not really seem to be a reliable source by WP's standards. Steve Dufour 03:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying! Here are some more sources. [3] [4] [5][6] Ladyfun 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Come on, please also add references to Cruise's criminal record. We all know presumably that he was one smooth criminal when he was seventeen... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.176.49.217 (talk) 08:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thing is... without verifiable sources, this all should not be part of Wikipedia IMHO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.108.103.172 (talk) 23:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Middle Name

Tom's middle name is not jeremiah. His middle name is originally Cruise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.246.93 (talk) 21:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC) Template:UnsignedIP Autosigned by SineBot[reply]

Cruise is his last name!!! --Krawunsel (talk) 16:21, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Tom Cruise

Quantity of Negative Content/Inaccurate portrayal

The sheer quantity of negative content here makes the article very biased and unworthy of Wikipedia. Is Wikipedia some type of educated Jerry Springer forum now? I estimate that roughly 1/2 of this article is concerned with negative aspects of Cruise's life. The South Park episode, "jumping the couch", and the Matt Lauer incident can and should be included in only one small paragraph as they are only very small incidents in his life. It is too bad that even Wikipedia is influenced by a media only interested in people for character defamation value. I guess that sells ads.

There is so much negative content here I'm pretty sure that Cruise must be an evil person.

76.0.143.56 (talk) 02:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)stumbler@icc[reply]

You should see some of the stuff that has been deleted! We take our responsibilities to that which can be justified extremely seriously, and if you want to take a look at policy on biographies of living people, you'll get a flavour of how careful we have to be. This is not just because WP does not want to tell lies, but also because it is a charitable venture, and all of its editors volunteers, that it is unacceptable for WP to risk actions for defamation. This is why regular editors are vigilant on articles such as this. However, if you have found an assertion here, or elsewhere in WP that casts its subject in a negative light AND is not supported by evidence, please feel free to raise it on the article's talk page (such as here), or at the administrators message board if it seems that gross. Finally, Wikipedia does not sells "ads"; we are not a commercial venture- if that were the case, every article we write about people who paid us would be free of any criticim whatever, and that is not what an encyclopedia should be doing. Happy New Year! --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 03:10, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I read the article, and concur with the notice placed at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Tom_Cruise. The "Controversy" section is a POV magnet, some of the subjection there too long, and the material will more neutral if incorporated into the rest of the article. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 04:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Major personalities in any field of endeavour tend to attract attention from any number of directions, and sometimes to interpret their lives, beliefs, or actions, to advance a particular point of view. What is difficult is to separate the wheat from the chaff and not print the chaff. It is a Sisyphean task to keep up with personalities whose every move and thought is under journalistic (and I use that term loosely) scrutiny. Given that we are all voluntary editors here, and presumably would be doing better things if we could be paid enough for them, it follows that our time would be better deployed in writing an encyclopedia, and not a hatchet-job. If criticism is deserved, and supported by the usual fundamental policies, let's have it, otherwise, could we stick to a balanced, informative and encyclopedic article? --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 05:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I believe some of these comments make a somewhat lopsided impression, especially the title of this section of the talk. The "quantity of negative content" is not necessarily the same thing as an inaccurate portrayals (even though hard-core fans of Cruise might contradict me here). It doesn't matter if the content is "good" or "bad". What matters is that the content is true and can be proved. Some people DO pile up more bad things than good in their lifes. Or what do you think how much good things you could say about Bin Laden or Hitler? It's a pity that much of the time even criticism that has thoroughly been proved through sources and everything are considered by some as "too negative" and "not politically correct". This often leads soft-laundered articles which are sometimes besides the point. So please don't delete all things here that might be considered criticism of Tom Cruise. --Krawunsel (talk) 16:19, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Holoprosencephaly speculation

While I wouldn't normally consider rumours article material, the fact that wiki authors have seen fit to print the gay rumours, and that holoprosencephaly represents another explanation for some of Cruise's (and his counsels') behaviour, I think it also deserves a bit of space. There have been reported instances of counsel action against web communities discussing this possibility, an unusual step were the rumour to be far off the mark.65.93.162.196 (talk) 09:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)wb[reply]

We don´t do rumour - that´s the start and the end of the conversation. --Fredrick day (talk) 12:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone help with my edit?

I added the bit about the Daily Mail's report that TC was #2 in Scientology, per Andrew Morton. Somehow my edit, which looks fine on the preview age, has damaged the 'couch incident' paragraph below mine. Can someone tidy it up for me please and tell me where I went wrong? ThanksCross Reference (talk) 00:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References need to be surrounded with <ref></ref>. You missed out the "/" in the second <ref>. That's not to say that I accept the reference, only corrected its form. You also need to post new items at the bottom of this page, where I have now moved it.--Rodhullandemu (Talk) 00:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ http://ifc.com/static/sections/kelly/trapped.html
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